Atlanta Hawks: Video: Life without Zaza
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Ra'mon
April 18th, 2012
10:46 am
Vava, in 3 seasons, Joe will still be a top 5 SG in the league. There’s no way he will get less than 7-8 on his next deal. Remember, Joe rarely misses that many games.To be honest, I’ve been more impressed with Joe this season than I have been with Wade. There is not a clear SG who’s younger than Joe who will undoubtedly be great. Eric Gordon can’t stay healthy. And Brandon Roy who was the heir apparent career ended. Russel Westbrook may be the next 2 guard to be a super star. But other wise its PG/SF that are becoming the superstar position. So Joe has a long career ahead. Not to mention he can play at Paul Pierce’s level for another 5-7 seasons at the SF position.
Ra'mon
April 18th, 2012
10:47 am
Rod, the Hawks can beat the Pacers in a series.
Slimjr
April 18th, 2012
10:49 am
I would like to see OKC win one..SA has 4 already…..Really looking forward to these playoffs…
I wonder how far Indiana can take it? They are a legit 40 and 22 and won the last 9 of 10. Well balanced and deep…. Hawks want no part of Larry Bird’s squad…
The Title will come from the West again…
Slimjr
April 18th, 2012
10:53 am
From the eyeball test, Wade looks like he’s aging much faster than ISO..Hmmmm
Moral of the story; fast cars and fast women will wear you out before your time…LMBO!!
SteveW
April 18th, 2012
11:16 am
Ra’mon – Yes, the talk in Heat land is that Bosh and DWade haven’t had good years. Bosh, probably because he’s playing heavier than he likes combined with the compressed season. And DWade, just because he’s lost 1/2 a step.
Our bloggers may not be worried about the Heat’s ability once the playoffs come to turn it on, but there is total pandemonium in Heat land, both from bloggers and reporters about it. They are very concerned, and ready to blow it up if they don’t win a Championship this season.
Slimjr
April 18th, 2012
11:17 am
Vava74, good stuff man!
Cut Marvin.
Trade Robotus for cap relief and a pick or picks. We found out this season he would not really be missed thanks to Zaza’s play.. Heck even Ivan has more offensive skills at the 4..
I too think Gerald Green with the Nets is the real deal! Always like that dude’s game..Just too immature..He could have used some college seasoning? Getting kicked out the league for a couple of seasons appears to have worked.
He could be groomed to replace ISO someday real soon before the contract balloons to over 20 million a year…
Sund is off his rocker with that obscene contract signing..
SteveW
April 18th, 2012
11:21 am
The problem with trading Al. If I’m a GM, and I hear Al is on the trading block after this terrible injury, my first thought is “What does ATL know that they don’t want anyone to find out?”. Even if your drs. can check him out, you still wonder if they’ve missed something, or did Al say something privately or something.
Your not going to get good value for him. Unless Josh recants his request to go, he’ll probably be the one to go.
If he does decide to stay – trade JJ – his contract is the one holding this team back moving forward.
SteveW
April 18th, 2012
11:23 am
Play Al half a season – and if Al can’t handle C, or Josh can’t play the 3, then trade Al, after he’s shown he’s healthy to rival GM’s.
SteveW
April 18th, 2012
11:25 am
Amnestying Marvin would help things cap wise – can’t see the Hawks ever doing it though.
SteveW
April 18th, 2012
11:29 am
The good thing about JJ and Al’s contracts: This upcoming draft is the 1st one where both those guys contracts will be coming off the books when this years 1st Pick will become a Restricted Free Agent.
You got those 1st round pick rooks for 4 years on the Rookie scale.
And I am a little perplexed at how ZaZa, Asik, Al, Ivan, Josh, Marvin in your frontcourt makes you a lottery team. Unless it’s just a Josh plays 4 regardless type thing. If Josh can’t play the 3, trade Al for young, cheaper talent.
Ra'mon
April 18th, 2012
11:33 am
SteveW, I can see Bosh getting traded for Asik and Boozer at the off season, rather they win a title or not. Truth be told, the Heat should’ve attempted to trade Bosh for Nash and Lopez at the deadline. But they didn’t.
Ra'mon
April 18th, 2012
11:35 am
SteveW, I don’t think another GM would even think that our GM was thinking, lol.
vava74
April 18th, 2012
11:45 am
MC tweeted earlier today agreeing that it would be better to face IND as a 6th seed than playing BOS as a 5th seed with home court.
Rod from College Park
April 18th, 2012
12:25 pm
“Rod, the Hawks can beat the Pacers in a series.”
I’m not as sure as you are.
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
April 18th, 2012
12:28 pm
“My rookie year, Coach Woodson told me I wasn’t going to play, straight up,” Teague said. “That was just how he worked. So I respected that.”.
FIRE WOODY
The same dude that told Teague he wasn’t going to play was the same dude that didn’t want Chris Paul or Deron Williams.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 18th, 2012
12:44 pm
” in 3 seasons, Joe will still be a top 5 SG in the league.”
In 3 years, Joe will be 34. Unless there are literally no good SGs who get drafted in that time, I highly doubt he’s still going to be top 5 at that point.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 18th, 2012
12:45 pm
The Hawks took the Celtics to 7 games without home court in 2008, when the Hawks were worse and the Celtics were better. Y’all really think beating them with home court is impossible?
The Pacers have blown out the Hawks. The Celtics haven’t. Give me home court and the Celtics over no home court and the Pacers.
Najeh Davenpoop
April 18th, 2012
12:48 pm
“One of the most traditional themes in sports’ imaginarium: a bunch of old geezers which are together for what will be their last playoff run make a push for the title.”
Haha… if “imaginarium” isn’t a real word it should be.
MsDee
April 18th, 2012
12:53 pm
“The Hawks took the Celtics to 7 games without home court in 2008, when the Hawks were worse and the Celtics were better. Y’all really think beating them with home court is impossible?
The Pacers have blown out the Hawks. The Celtics haven’t. Give me home court and the Celtics over no home court and the Pacers.”
Honestly, give me who ever fall in place. Teams like Indiana, NY, Philly, and even Orlando should be worrying about who they play but a team who has made it to the playoffs 4 consecutive years shouldnt be scared to face anyone, esp being truly a seed #4..Hawks in 6 (1st round) Boston or Pacers!!
Slimjr
April 18th, 2012
1:14 pm
Indiana is on fire with the Home court..Hawks dont want that match up at all..
They’d lose in 5 or 6..
Ra'mon
April 18th, 2012
1:31 pm
Najeh, out of the top 5 SGs in the league now, the only one I would see on an upswing is Harden. Joe will be 34, but Joe is a guy who is never out of shape. And Joe will be able to slide to the SF position to continue his career going. I don’t see any young SG’s who are going to blow up all of a sudden. So someone would have to be drafted, and become an all star in 2-3 seasons to push Joe all the way out of top 5, when the top SG will be retired by then, and the 2nd SG will have lost a lot of his explosion because of injuries.
vava74
April 18th, 2012
1:40 pm
Najeh,
“imaginarium” is Latin.
Literally it “imaginary” but in Latin languages (like my native Portuguese) is both used in its original Latin form or in its converted form (for instance “imaginário” in Portugal) along with another words or expressions like “collective” or “sports”, to describe a “group of concepts, images, themes” commonly known and/or accepted as “ideal”.
We usually use this for instance to describe a movies, sports moments, which appreciation is shared by the majority of people.
Old geezers making one final playoff run together for an emblematic ball club like the Celts fits exactly the bill: it fits a “romantic ideal”.
vava74
April 18th, 2012
1:44 pm
Ra’mon,
Marshon Brooks will be a star in this league within 2 years.
DeRozan, maybe.
What JJ brings to the table and that most of the times passes unnoticed because people only watch half of the games is JJ’s D which is well above average when he does not decide to take the day off (which does happen a bit too much IMO).
Melvin
April 18th, 2012
2:05 pm
Ra’mon,
Tyreke Evans, Eric Gordon and Evan Turner will be good SGs for years to come. And this year High School sensation Shabazz Muhammad (the next Kobe) will be in the league within the next 3yrs… I can’t see Joe being top 3 SG 3 years from now.
glw
April 18th, 2012
2:42 pm
Vava74,
I can buy your next season plans, amnesty Marvin isnt all bad and even trading Al for a younger less expensive player might be smart, but Joe dont need to get any more money. NO way he gets an extension. And Josh getting close to max money??? 17-18 milli? Josh has a unique skill set, but if he got that, his contract would be worse than JJ. Once Josh knees go in 3-4 years, that unique skill set he has will cease to exist. At least Joe has the ability to pound and can shoot, but Josh game will really go down the tube once he cant jump.