Atlanta Hawks: Hawks 101, Pistons 96

  • This is what the Hawks can look like when they give Jeff Teague the ball and let him go. Or, maybe more accurately, this is what it can look look like when give him the ball and he decides to go. “We were just trying to push the ball, get to the basket, and force the issue in the paint,” Teague said. “It worked out for us.”
  • After settling for a couple jump shots early, Teague relentlessly attacked the basket the rest of the night for 24 points on 16 shots and five free throws. He had 11 assists and didn’t have a turnover until the third quarter. The Pistons didn’t have an answer for him, and it’s not like they don’t have fleet-footed guards.
  • “He was a load to handle all night,” Lawrence Frank said.
  • “Once he got aggressive off the dribble, it started opening up everything,” Larry Drew said. “We got our transition game going, he got to the basket. I thought he made some nice plays off the dribble. When he’s in tha attack mode like that and he’s aggressive, we’re a different ball club.”
  • It helped that Teague collected five rebounds himself and could take off running himself.
  • The Hawks still had to go all out to hold off the Pistons. Lots of scoring Rodney Stuckey and a little bit from everyone else after halftime kept it close. “When you get them down, they don’t quit,” Marvin Williams said. “Their defense got them back in the game.”
  • Rough scoring night for Joe Johnson, who couldn’t find his 3-point shot. Still, 16 points on 16 shots with just one turnover and seven assists isn’t so bad. He also played physical D against Tayshaun Prince.
  • Josh Smith made a pair of key Js in the fourth quarter. He could have done better than 22 points on 20 shots if he had converted more of his six offensive rebounds for baskets (he was weirdly below the rim on putbacks) or made more than 2 of 6 free-throw attempts. The 12 rebounds, four assists and three blocked shots helped make up for it.
  • Zaza Pachulia was limited to 20 minutes because of foul trouble, so the six rebounds were pretty good. Even better was better D against Greg Monroe than in the first two meetings.
  • Kirk Hinrich had four assists with no turnovers in 24 minutes but it usually doesn’t feel like he’s making much of an impact when he’s missing open Js.
  • Ivan Johnson is becoming a reliable part of the rotation. He had 16 points on 12 shots and six rebounds in 29 minutes. Ivan used his athleticism to affect the Pistons around the basket and get out to shooters. “He was really aggressive around the basket defensively and his coverages were on the money,” Drew said. “That’s what we expect from Ivan. When we are not energized or getting the physicality around the basket, we throw Ivan in the game.”
  • Ivan was, as usual, a man of action with few words: “Just help defense, hustle plays. That’s all it is.”
  • Marvin’s aggressiveness paid off with 10 free-throw attempts and he made eight. That’s how you get 12 points on just five shots.
  • The Hawks recorded 30 assists on 39 field goals. “We have a tendency to overpass but I’d rather do that than underpass,” Drew said, and ain’t that the truth.
  • Drew saw enough from his bench guys in the first half, so only Ivan and Marvin played significant minutes after halftime. The Hawks have a game tomorrow but a) it’s against the Bobcats and b) they have three days off after that. So I don’t see much downside to Drew’s strategy, especially since only Teague and Josh topped 40 minutes.
  • Drew: “The bench in the first half had a very poor stretch. Our energy level and defensive intensity was not very good. In the second half I wanted to make sure we did not lose our rhythm. It worked out tonight but hopefully those guys that didn’t play a lot of minutes will be ready tomorrow.”

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

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April 6th, 2012
11:10 pm


April 6th, 2012
11:12 pm


April 6th, 2012
11:12 pm

Damn, that’s why I usually don’t do that.


April 6th, 2012
11:12 pm

If the Hawks end the season 40-26, I’ll be a happy camper.


April 6th, 2012
11:17 pm

Great game hawkS!!!!! Jeff I need u play like this all the time u balled outta control

ATL Sports Pessimist

April 6th, 2012
11:19 pm

Somehow the 3rd seed is still a very good possibility even without Horford


April 6th, 2012
11:19 pm

I thought this game was going to be a “trap game.”


April 6th, 2012
11:30 pm

Good win, gotta take care of charlotte tomorrow


April 6th, 2012
11:31 pm

Wouldn’t the hawks have homecourt over the Celtics currently?


April 6th, 2012
11:41 pm



April 6th, 2012
11:42 pm

Soooo ….. who read the article about Josh Smith MVP talk … that’s right I said it … a article writen stating Josh Smith is the 4th best player (minimum) this year …. I’m a big Josh fan and if any of the fair wether fans in ATL found out there is a MVP candidate on the hawks they might start coming to the games … but somebody else is going to have to tell them because they arnt real fans and couldn’t figure it out for themselves (wrote at work on phone excuse any typo’s lol)


April 6th, 2012
11:49 pm

I think they would have home court advantage against the Celtics since we have the better record thats what MC said on a previous blog


April 6th, 2012
11:49 pm


Thanks fellas, I would have never remembered BRICK! I was so young back then, my cousins taught me how to dance to that song. The Bus Stop – remember that original dance? The Electric Slide is a knock off … and has been renamed a thousand times!

Thanks fellas, you evoke fond memories in my heart. LOL!

MVT!!! Was “gettin’ on down” Tu-Nite! (In Bernie Mac’s voice) RIP Bernie. Loving me some Tegaue – yawl! He ain’t hurt nobody but the Pistons interior defense Tu-Nite! Jeff wasn’t throwing up no BRICK tu-nite. Ballin’ his eyes out!

We straight at the PG for the first time since Mookie left. If Fab Melo falls to our pick between #19 and #24-25, we might need to make that Pick! Take a chance on a project BIG with some size and foot speed, good hands in the paint: rebounds, blocks shots and dunks! That’s all we need with Teague – ECF and Beyond if we do.

Apparently, we can get one to sign here as a FA.

Give Sund credit for getting Teague, we don’t need Tony Wroten, Jr. Nam” nother guards – please!

Bring back Pargo and Willie, let Kirk go back to Chi-Town, he still has a fine home there and lives there in the off season.

Drop Collins and Damp, TMac and Stack. Sign two more rebounders, we straight. That’s about 12M coming off the books.

Najeh Davenpoop

April 6th, 2012
11:51 pm

“who read the article about Josh Smith MVP talk … that’s right I said it … a article writen stating Josh Smith is the 4th best player (minimum) this yea”



April 6th, 2012
11:56 pm

* we CAN’T get one to sign here as a FA …


April 6th, 2012
11:59 pm

Well JT was always a star in the making. I really think for most of the season LD was holding him back telling him to make sure the stars are getting their points. In the 4th quarter it seemed like JS & JJ started to play one on one ball. The hawks need to run the offense through Jeff , I think that it has been LD’s fault letting JJ to start playing iso ball,we will never beat any one in the playoffs if we don’t play the game at a faster pace. Another think LD was doing was always pulling him at the 4 min mark. KH is the past certainly not the future.I really think LD has to play Ivan a lot more minutes.


April 7th, 2012
12:12 am

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April 7th, 2012
12:18 am

When it comes to coaching the Hawks, Larry Drew said, “I’m the HNIC.”

HNIC = Head Newcomer in Charge


April 7th, 2012
12:21 am

Aye Drew!

Leave Teague ALONE!!!!!!!!!! Stop trying to coach him – STHU! Teague is a natural PG now, let him do his thang.

Josh!!!!!!! Give Teague the damned ball … 12 rebounds = 12 passes to Teague – you RUN the wings like Griffin and you’re a Super Star! FK an All Star man, you’re better than average! Lob City for you bruh! Teague is faster than you.

Josh!!!!!!! Stop making the game so hard, you will get your dimes when they double you in half court sets.

Hawks would be unstoppable! Teague is better than DRose and CP3!!!!!!! Just need a better coach to stop FKG with him. Let’s Go!!!!!!! ECF and Beyond???


April 7th, 2012
12:37 am

Jeff should get looks per nite! Let him run his team, step on toes. Credit Joe, he doesn’t care who takes the most shots, he just wants to win. Joe is the most unselfish player in this league, he got his “loot” and he aint knocking no boots. Just wanna win man!

We ARE the younger version of Celtics BIG THREE! Wait to Horford comes back – aww man it’s on! Do not break up this core, its about to pay off!

Watch Out! All because of MVT!!!

Najeh Davenpoop

April 7th, 2012
1:05 am

Teague needs to watch some tape of Goran Dragic finishing at the rim. That guy, despite his below average athleticism, somehow finds a way to get those layups in traffic to go in. If Teague could convert at the rim at that rate, he’d be damn near unstoppable when driving inside.


April 7th, 2012
1:22 am

For a very long time we have had a very athletic team,bigs like Al & Josh but it always seemed that we played at a very slow tempo. Woody just liked to play iso Joe & LD said he wanted to play faster but it always seemed that he encouraged iso ball. I always wanted to see the hawks play a hell of a lot faster with us getting a lot more easy shots instead of playing slow iso ball & always settling for jumpshots. I felt that we had the player in JT to play at a much faster tempo but it looked like he wouldn’t let JT play fast but always wanted him to give the ball to Joe or Josh. In his mind KH was always the guy he wanted who wouldn’t look to do anything but give the ball to JJ. If we played at a fast pace this team would get a lot more easy baskets & would be a lot more enjoyable to watch.It would make us a lot harder to shut down in the playoffs.


April 7th, 2012
1:31 am

I would rather go big at times with Zazza & Ivan in the game with Josh instead of KH.we are going to have to get bigger in the playoffs.we certainly don’t need Collins in the games.with Ivan we get a lot more rebounding ,toughness & will close off the other teams ability to get easy baskets going to the hoop but I don’t expect LD to realize that. I would play them together now to get ready for the playoffs.


April 7th, 2012
2:01 am

Is Al Horford coming back anytime soon and what kinda progress Is He making?


April 7th, 2012
2:24 am

I am not particularly a fan of LD, nor am I his defender.
at some point, certain folks on here will have to credit LD
for some things.
He [LD] gets hammered for holding back Teaguer and retarding
his progress.
On the other hand, look at JT`s progression;
why can`t he [LD] get [at least] minimal credit for assisting
in the young man`s development.
Why do some only see the negative.

Many carp about Kirk, for playing time, starting,
taking time away from Teague, from Pargo, etc, etc, etc.
But … since Kirk became a starter and Marv
went into the bench rotation, our team seems to have jelled
and is playing with mucho chemistry.

Others whine and pout about bench rotations.
Though LD has maneuvered this flawed roster into contention
for 3rd place w/o Al Horford.

One particular blogger now is bellyaching about Iso-J. ?.
LD`s offense is his strong suit and Iso-J only comes out periodically.

Joe has modified his game and deferred to Josh
for the greater good.

Did all this occur through osmosis ?

Maybe, just maybe, the coach should not be blamed for
every little malfunction.
Perhaps he should get some credit along the way for
some odds and ends.

No, he is not highly paid;
and yes the Hawks could have bought a more expensive coach.

They say it`s a players league;
so why ? when things go wrong;
does LD catch hell ?

When things go right … the players … usually personal favorites
get the credit !

Human nature, I reckon ?

This has been an editorial comment;
I repeat, not necessarily a pro LD post.


April 7th, 2012
2:29 am

* Why do some only see the negative.

** ?

*** Most times questions end with a question mark (?).


April 7th, 2012
2:38 am

I have become frustrated at times with ncertain players.

The latest was Josh, earlier in the season.

My point,
Josh has played at a consistently High level for most of this season.

There … I purged myself.

Buddy G

April 7th, 2012
3:30 am

April 5th, 2012
11:40 pm

Pargo can stop and pop with authority and accuracy.. If he keeps this up he’s going to have a nice career in the NBA and paid handsomely…BTW he does have a decent handle…

Buddy Grizzard
April 6th, 2012
2:09 am

Pargo is averaging 1.6 assists per game vs. 0.9 turnovers per game. His handle is ATROCIOUS.

Buddy Grizzard
April 6th, 2012
8:18 pm


Buddy Grizzard
April 6th, 2012
8:21 pm

Slimjr where you at? Let’s talk about how nice Pargo’s handle is.

April 6th, 2012
8:26 pm


I didnt even mentioned that dude..

Big Daddy

April 7th, 2012
3:53 am

Monster game by Jeff. Best team chemistry than I have seen in a while. This is the way we should play and our chances to move up the ladder in the playoffs will get better and better. Go Hawks!!!


April 7th, 2012
4:08 am

Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty Teague’s free at last!!!
We shall overcome suspect coaching! Fight for your right to lead Teague.


April 7th, 2012
4:28 am

If Teague had stayed one more year in College, he would have been a top 5 pick and would have come to the league with more confidence and star status.

He has the “IT” factor, as I have always mentioned and it’s really nauseating to think that he never got a fair break from neither Woody not LD until by default he had an opportunity against CHI last year.

Teague’s main problem is lack of confidence and that lack of confidence has been inflicted by our horrible coaching.

Don’t give me that crap about van Exel being brought to wake up the dog in Teague.

Any quick viewing of Teague’s college plays clearly shows that he had a wolf in him when he came into the league.

His rookie pre-season performances demonstrated that but the Woody treatment slowly but firmly eroded that.

Notso Fast

April 7th, 2012
4:58 am

The Hawks are hard to understand. Jeff Teague is a failure and now is playing great. The Hawks pick up some “no names”, I Johnson, ands some over the hill guys because they are cheap but the team is pretty good and I was wrong.

Buddy G

April 7th, 2012
6:22 am

“We shall overcome suspect coaching!” – soullrenaissance

Post of the Decade! LOL!


April 7th, 2012
6:29 am

Jeff Teague was a beast tonight. With his driving ability there is no reason he can’t average 6 FT attempts per game. He should keep putting pressure on the defense and start getting regular calls from the refs, not have to be absolutely hammered to get a call. It would surely make up for his jumper.


April 7th, 2012
6:43 am


I was on the Fab Melo tip, too during the NCAAs (as he sat out due to the book monster) but then …. when Boss comes back, there is a big domino effect with Zaza’s minutes, the specter of Smooves final contract year, what to do with Marvin, and whether JJ’s recent stint at starting SF (in 3-guard lineup) is the wave of the future…

I suspect the ASG/Sund/Powers that be will look for a developmental combo G (Wroten or the like) to eventually fill Kirk’s spot, either as backup PG or starting SG when we go with the 3-guard lineup with JJ as SF.
Plus, I was thinking how former Kentucky C Daniel Orton is just collecting splinters in his hinterparts down in ORL and don’t want the same mistake. I think my dirty socks has seen more court time than him.

ATL is ballin’, but Indiana must have the spirit of Jason Vorhees in the locker room …. they just wont die! They put a hurtin’ on Durant-ula’s squad last nite, and had a scoring explosion to rally past the NYK.

Just Joe

April 7th, 2012
6:57 am

Let’s not get too excited here. The schedule is loosening up is all. Over the last 30 days, we’ve beat Sacto, Wash, Cle, NJ, Utah, NY, Char, and Det. We’ve also lost to Mia, Det, Den, Clips, Bos, Mil, Chi, and Philly.

The only quality wins are Utah in OT and NY…both home games.

Just Joe

April 7th, 2012
7:03 am

And even though they were quality wins, Utah is currently a non-playoff team, and New York has only a one game lead On the last spot in the east. These teams are barely .500+ teams.


April 7th, 2012
7:50 am

“They say it`s a players league;
so why ? when things go wrong;
does LD catch hell ?

When things go right … the players … usually personal favorites
get the credit !” – Grandad

Duh, because it IS a players’ league – you [just] answered your own question [in the beginning].

Rev in Tampa

April 7th, 2012
9:03 am


Larry Drew has a secret red button that he is able to press that makes this team “GO”. They play for him. We all know from past years that this team had a tendency to take nights off, stop compeating, and suffer a beatdown. I remember vividly, even last season, the Boston, NJ, and Milwaukee games. But those kinds of games have essentially disappeared this season.

The Hawks have beaten the teams they are supposed to beat for the most part. They have competed against the teams that are cosidered better than the Hawks. They have even won some of those games – OKC, Mia, & Chi.

They have taken whole quarters of games off but have shown amazing resilience in battling back from double-digit leads. Last season the Hawks would have simply wilted. (Has the word “resilience” ever been used to describe the Hawks?)

Even through the injuries, rigors of the compressed season, and the low expectations people had after Horford went down the Hawks have competed.

For that reason alone I think Larry Drew should be given the keys to the team for a couple more years – I am gritting my teeth even as I type.

That being said, would we have witnessed last night’s amazing performances if Hinrich had stayed healthy for last year’s playoffs and this entire season? Would Ivan have seen the floor if Horford had not been injured? Would we know how well Green and Pargo play together if the Hawks could have afforded to bring Jamal back for another season?

Rev in Tampa

April 7th, 2012
9:08 am

Although I am giving Larry drew a grudging complement in the above post, it is a MAJOR complement. He has done a great job holding this team together. Larry Drew is THE REASON the Hawks have exceeded our expectations this season after Horford’s injury.


April 7th, 2012
9:29 am

Dear Lord,

Please let the Hawks draw the Tragic in round#1. We don’t even need that #3 seed, we’ll take the #4 spot, it doesn’t even matter, really, just let it be the Tragic.



April 7th, 2012
9:51 am

Good win last nite Guy.I just wish Josh would learn to keep his man off off. Board! He still counts on his jumping ability instead of good fundimentals Go Hawks

Gray Mule

April 7th, 2012
9:53 am

We don’t care what the opponents record is when we play them.
A win is a win is a win. Enjoy every one of them. We’ve beaten
some good teams and lost to some bad teams. That’s the way
things work. “On any given night – - – -” Can’t take anything
for granted.

Hollinger said Hawks wouldn’t make the playoffs this season.
And, that was before we lost Horford for the season.

Just proves, even the so called experts don’t know everything.



April 7th, 2012
10:00 am

Marvin Williams is an azz sandwich…I mean he’s horrible. Tayshawn Prince said so….That dunk was crazy.

Seriously tho Josh deserves more praise for his play this yr.He is and has been our best player for the past two seasons. I jus laughed when people wanted him traded so Jumpshot Al could flourish.

Al/Marvin/2nd -to Houston for- Dalembert/Dragic


April 7th, 2012
10:03 am

Rev in Tampa!


Amen from the congregation!


April 7th, 2012
10:29 am

Rule below explains why Hawks are currently seeded behind the Celtics eventhough they have a better record.

“Teams 1 to 4 in each conference are the three division winners and the team with the next best regular-season record, with the seeding of these four teams determined by regular-season record. The playoffs seedings of Teams 5 to 8 are based upon regular-season record. Ties are broken pursuant to the rules set forth below.”

Ken Strickland

April 7th, 2012
10:37 am

I can remember when I argued with many negative minded Hawk fans who made most of the same stupid and lame excuses for not playing Teague that Woodson and LD were making. Even now we still see remnants of that attitude coming from LD when it comes to Teague and Hinrich. Remember when these know it all know nothings claimed Teague couldn’t run a team, or he couldn’t finish at the rim, or he couldn’t shoot, or he’s not a true PG etc?

However, unlike Woodson, LD wasn’t nearly as stupid and blatant as Woodson in his efforts. When Teague played well in the playoffs, LD gave him the chance he deserved. When he had an excellent gm under Woodson, it was usually followed up with a DNPCD. The thing that makes this team click is our bench. With Marvin, Green, Pargo, TMac and Ivan, we have at least 4 players that can come in and have an impact on any given gm.


April 7th, 2012
10:53 am

April 6th, 2012
11:29 pm

dawgnole is such a stiff when you say something positive about this team even interviews are under his scrutiny.

0-46? yup and dawgnole will think he is smart.

Doesn’t take somebody smart to predict 0-46 for this team. On the other hand, it does take somebody ignorant to predict anything else.

And when we conclude this season 0-46, I won’t think I’m smart at all. I’ll simply be extremely disappointed–as I have been for the previous 45 seasons.


April 7th, 2012
10:59 am

Many of us, like me, don’t watch ANY college ball. I never heard of Teague and couldn’t understand why he was glued to the bench?

I assumed the coaches knew best and, that MVT must have been doing something awful in closed practices. I mean, how could a coach be so stupid when we needed a PG so badly? Befuddle-ment is the only word hat comes to mind. To this very day, we still don’t know WHY MVT was super glued to the bench and nailed down?



April 7th, 2012
10:59 am

I was at the game and Teague was pulling some Rondo moves on the Pistons lol