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Najeh Davenpoop
March 29th, 2012
9:46 am
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/ct-spt-0329-bits-bulls-hawks-chicago–20120329,0,112242.story?%20track=rss
Hinrich, who still spends offseasons in the north suburban home he kept, will be an unrestricted free agent this summer for the first time in his nine-year career. So what about a Bulls return?
“I wouldn’t be opposed to it,” Hinrich said. “It’s still a ways away, and a lot can happen. We’ll see. I have no preconceived thoughts on what will happen.”
I have a feeling Sund will try to re-sign him at a lower price than his current salary, though.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 29th, 2012
10:05 am
FTPB
“As I have been saying for loooooooooooong, our major deficit could not be solved with a trade deadline more.
It can be solved at ANY MOMENT by firing LD and hiring a QUALITY HEAD-COACH.”
The problem is you can count the number of elite NBA head coaches on your fingers. In fact, Homer Simpson can probably count the number of elite NBA head coaches on his fingers.
How many Adelmans are out there who are not already coaching a team? How many Sloans who are sitting at home would be willing to come to a team that has a less than championship caliber roster?
The sad truth is that LD is no better or worse than about 80% of the league’s coaches. He isn’t bad, he’s just average. And to be quite honest, within the next five years, the Hawks have a better chance of blowing up this roster and rebuilding into a contender by drafting superstars than they do of hiring one of the few elite NBA coaches in existence.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 29th, 2012
10:06 am
Why is Vivlamore writing the game recap and game preview if MC is at the game to tweet and record videos?
O'Brien
March 29th, 2012
10:07 am
Najeh,
Hawks have to save on salary if they want to resign Josh and Zaza, because both players have earned a pay raise (imo), and they only have one more year on their deal.
As for beating the Bulls in a 7 game series, lets not forget they still have Rip Hamilton and D-Rose, so I dont think the Hawks have a chance (especially with LD on the sidelines).
Grandad,
I think LD is a better coach than Woody, but that is not saying much.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 29th, 2012
10:09 am
FTPB
“Larry Drew has done an awful job managing minutes. I think that is a big part of the problem. Joe, Josh, and even Zaza have just been logging too much time. No reason for guys playing 50 + minutes, like they did on Sunday night. Main reason for the consecutive weak efforts.”
LD hasn’t had much of a choice in a lot of these games, because too many people have been injured and games have gone into overtime. I am willing to give him some benefit of the doubt since he wasn’t riding them too hard earlier in the season when the team was healthier.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 29th, 2012
10:15 am
Taj Gibson was the 26th pick in the 1st round in 2009. Omer Asik was the 6th pick in the 2nd round in 2008.
Damion James (traded for Jordan Crawford) was the 24th pick in the 1st round by the Hawks in 2010. The Hawks sold the 1st pick in the 2nd round for cash that same year.
If there is any talent advantage the Bulls have at all over the Hawks, other than Rose, it is in having Gibson and Asik off the bench while the Hawks have Ivan and Collins/Dampier. The Bulls have Gibson and Asik not because they are a big market team that spends more money, but because they use their draft picks to improve the roster rather than pay the electric bill.
FIRE GEARON
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O'Brien
March 29th, 2012
10:29 am
From hoopinion about last night’s game;
Joe Johnson: Again, with Chicago’s superstar out of action, you would expect Atlanta’s franchise player to feast in his absence. Joe went on a diet with 12 points on 5-for-11 shooting with 6 assists. Said after the game that some of his teammates still do not know their roles. Note to Joe Johnson: Your role is to score..
Josh Smith: Josh has been one of the hottest players in the NBA since the All-Star break. His increased production can be attributed to an increase in scoring chances close to the basket. However, this by no means indicates that Josh has abandoned his efforts to shoot himself out of a career-long slump from 16-feet-and-out. Shooting 3-for-10 on long jumpers is actually an ok night for Josh.
Marvin Williams: Bringing Marvin off the bench really allows for an adjustment in expectations. For a bench player, 10 points and 5 rebounds are valuable contributions.
Ivan Johnson: After scoring 17 points on perfect 7-for-7 shooting in just 23 minutes in Tuesday’s loss to Milwaukee, Larry Drew rewarded Ivan with 11 minutes against the Bulls. Ivan Johnson has outplayed All-Star centers this year. Is the Hawks organization trying to hide him from potential bidders this summer?.
The head coach
Drew probably wishes the opposition was coached by Tyrone Corbin every time the Hawks play..
JJ takes 11 shots, Josh takes 21. JJ has to find a way to get his shots off (and this is where LD’s inabilities come into play). Good teams are able to take JJ out of his game with 1 defender, and both JJ and LD are powerless to stop it. And although I’m ok with Josh getting 20+ shots, I dont want 10 of them to be jumpers.
I know the playoff schedule wont be so hectic, so LD can afford to shorten his rotation then, but the Hawks better hope they get Orlando or Indiana in the playoffs.
Melvin
March 29th, 2012
10:29 am
Najeh,
Co-sign your 10:15 post… And to add, the Hawks sold their 2nd round pick for this upcoming draft AT THE TRADE DEADLINE period. Who does that? That’s a clear sign of, we need money…
DawgNole
March 29th, 2012
10:31 am
Dawg
March 29th, 2012
8:21 am
The Hawks WILL resign Larry Drew because he is the cheapest option available. The hawks WILL resign Sund because he is the cheapest option available. Besides, does it take a great GM to trade away all picks and sign minimum salary players?
__________________________
That pretty well captures it–and is a major reason the team will continue its strong support of the city’s role as a mediocre player in the pro sports arena.
Melvin
March 29th, 2012
10:39 am
OB,
With the exception of their performance last night, I wouldn’t be so quick to suggest Magic as a team the Hawks would like to play in the 1st round. They have been playing some good ball after the All Star break. I prefer they play a team with less playoff experience in the 1st round like Indy, Philly or even the Knicks regardless of regular
welikebaseball2
March 29th, 2012
10:55 am
Well, you guys have said it well. Would I like an upgrade at the head coach position? Absolutely. Do I think Drew’s offensive scheme is as ineffective as Woody’s iso madness? Absolutely. Do I think a coaching change would turn us into a legit championship contender? No. This roster is, flat out, a second round of the playoffs exit waiting to happen. As long as we’re stuck with ASG who’ll stick with Sund, we’ll continue to sign aging veterans to the minimum, trade draft picks for cash, & fool ourselves into thinking our “core” is better than average (at best).
prison mike
March 29th, 2012
10:56 am
Speaking of Asik. Jeff Withey is his clone at Kansas. Dude had 10 blocks and only 2 fouls against nc state. Outplayed tyler zeller imo. He is shooting 80% from the line which is huge.
Astro Joe
March 29th, 2012
10:56 am
Mekvin, the Hawks sold off one of their second round picks for the upcoming draft. I think they had two and still have one remaining. And MC suggested they sold the pick to offset the potential luxury tax cost from adding Dampier for the remainder of the season.
STRETCH
March 29th, 2012
10:58 am
Potential luxury tax cost as a result of adding Dampier? A guy they prefer using Collins ahead of??? WOW!
BIG DOG
March 29th, 2012
11:01 am
Coach LD have run Josh and Joe in the ground, they are tired with so many min. being played, when playoffs starte with to top players being tired, Hawks will get swept in 4 four games because of no defense, LD should no by now players can’t play solid defense if they are tired.
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
BIG DOG
March 29th, 2012
11:03 am
Can somebody answer this, why Tmac not playing ?
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
Admiral Snackbar
March 29th, 2012
11:06 am
Woody gonna be in da house.
it’s a TRAP!!!
Larry
March 29th, 2012
11:07 am
‘poop keeps talking about the Hawks as the best pro sports team in Atlanta. I think the last syllable in his name is what comprises the neruo matter inside his cerebtal cortex.
poop, your hidden agenda of promoting Vick and any team with the least amount of white players isn’t really so hidden from those with more than a double-digit IQ.
Shame on you!
Melvin
March 29th, 2012
11:11 am
Astro,
What you said is true. However, the point I have made over the past few weeks is b/c of bad asset management. The Hawks have to pay the luxury tax for a roster that has 8 guys making the vet min and probably is not capable of making ECF. They are paying the luxury tax b/c of a series of bad moves like keeping Sloan on the roster at the beginning of the season and signing Diamper for the remaining of the season. Not to mention overpaying some players and acquiring other high salary players by trading away players with modest contracts and draft picks. They have no cap or roster flexibility b/c they made terrible choices in the past that will require them to pay the luxury tax at the end of the season.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 29th, 2012
11:16 am
Larry, you seem to be lost. Hopefully that link directs you where you belong.
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 29th, 2012
11:25 am
New Diggs!
“Why is Vivlamore writing the game recap and game preview if MC is at the game to tweet and record videos?” -Najeh-
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Perhaps, MC got a promotion.
tyger
March 29th, 2012
11:28 am
Are home games more important than away games?
A game is a game, they count the same in the win column…
But home games garner home support…and revenue…
Thus, playing well at home is very important…
The Hawks normally are a good home team…
But this season, especially against good teams, they suck…
If not routed, they just dont get it done at the Phipp…
Easy to go back to JJ’s infamous statement in re. home fans…
But something is awry, not just last night, but there’s a pattern…
This team has to take pride in performing before its fans…
It has to establish pride in defending the Phipp…its got to be personal..
I dont see that on this team…
Many criticize Josh for his emotional side, but you need that…
I dont see enough of that from this group, too white collar, too indifferent…
I dont want J.R. Riders but this team lacks passionate leadership…
How can D-league John Lucas III outplay our starter????
Rod from College Park
March 29th, 2012
11:29 am
Indiana or Orlando is our only hope in the playoffs. If Pargo and Green don’t start scoring more off the bench, we won’t beat either of those teams in a playoff series either. Jamal was the difference in us beating Orlando in the series last year, do we have enough scoring punch on our bench this year to compete in the playoffs is the question? Joe Johnson is easy to shut down. Shut him down, and let Josh shoot jumpers all day, and you can beat the Hawks. Plus LD will get outcoached by almost every coach in a series except Woodson and Van Gundy. Look for a first round exit.
Rod from College Park
March 29th, 2012
11:33 am
JJ needs to stop taking shots in the media. He obviously does not know his role. Against elite teams, he has to score over 20 points for us to even have a chance. Jamal took a lot of pressure off of joe last year, but he is not here now, so JJ needs to understand that. Be the superstar and All star that you are paid to be.
You Should Stop Posting
March 29th, 2012
11:42 am
tyger
March 29th, 2012
11:28 am
Are home games more important than away games?
A game is a game, they count the same in the win column…
But home games garner home support…and revenue…
Thus, playing well at home is very important…
The Hawks normally are a good home team…
But this season, especially against good teams, they suck…
If not routed, they just dont get it done at the Phipp…
Easy to go back to JJ’s infamous statement in re. home fans…
But something is awry, not just last night, but there’s a pattern…
This team has to take pride in performing before its fans…
It has to establish pride in defending the Phipp…its got to be personal..
I dont see that on this team…
Many criticize Josh for his emotional side, but you need that…
I dont see enough of that from this group, too white collar, too indifferent…
I dont want J.R. Riders but this team lacks passionate leadership…
How can D-league John Lucas III outplay our starter????
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Player A had 10 points and 5 dimes. Player B had 13 points and 8 dimes.. I will let you guess what player had what numbers. I don’t know what your definition of outplaying is but im sure its a lot different than the one I know.I guess you will ignore the bulls better bench play or how Deng pretty much owned the 120 million dollar man. Its clear from your comments you haven’t seen Lucas play at all this year. You should check out his numbers in the games he started. Not surprising coming from a guy who suggested we bring in a washed up Iverson or a bum like Randolph Morris.
BIG DOG
March 29th, 2012
12:00 pm
LD is the problem making no adjustment when there is no back up point guard on the bench.
Coach LD, Pargo is hurt hmmmmmmmmmm.
BIG IN THE HOUSE
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 29th, 2012
12:04 pm
It’s Electric!
Well Najeh, looks like they paid part of the electric bill with the last pick sold. The scoreboard is still blacked out. But hey, it’s not all bad – you can always reach around the beer guy and grab a RED steak.
That link for Larry was sick! I hope the internet CIA dint tag my IP Address for peeking over there. Man there were over 1.5M posts on one of those rabid forums. Scary stuff, a lot of hate in this world.
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The Hawks … FTPB – Drew’s and Joseph’s comments were a huge eye opener for me. NO CLUE DREW is in over his head.
BIG DOG
March 29th, 2012
12:06 pm
Teague, Joe, Josh, Ivan, Zaza
Hinrich, Green, Tmac, Marvin, Dampier
Collins is non existing with one arm, 1 REBOUND SINCE RETURN.
10man rotation is must to keep players fresh during the rest of the season, not only that defense will be played better with 10 MAN ROTATION.
Hinrich must come of the bench with no backup point guard on the bench.
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
BIG DOG
March 29th, 2012
12:08 pm
I hope LD watch the Bulls coach last night with 11man rotation, JUST DAM.
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
Section 303
March 29th, 2012
12:39 pm
Najeh, I understand that the Hawks are dealing with injuries. I know that factors in to the minutes Joe, Josh, and Zaza are logging. But, it’s like Coach Drew is not even trying to monitor the time. Against Utah, why couldn’t Dampier at least eat up some minutes? Why not more T-Mac to spell Joe? Last night, why put Joe and Josh back in when the game is out of reach?
It’s a tough situation, no doubt. There are opportunities to get guys rest that Coach Drew just does not take advantage of.
I’m holding off any judgement until after the 3 day rest coming up. The schedule softens up a bit. Hawks have to take advantage. They could still end up with a miserable playoff seed, if they’re not careful.
Slimjr
March 29th, 2012
12:44 pm
Was it Gearon Jr who said he bought the team to make the playoffs and entertain?
We’re not entertained getting our azz kicked around by other playoff teams!
Larry Drew= square peg/ round hole
FIRE Gearon Jr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Friday night looms big..Woody will try and put his foot on Larry’s neck?
FIRE Gearon Jr!
Slimjr
March 29th, 2012
12:47 pm
Gearon Jr, you should have grabbed Kaman when he became available..
Oh thats right your not in it to win it! I got it!
Astro Joe
March 29th, 2012
12:54 pm
Melvin, I agree. And I think it goes back to the ASG and their insistence on maintaining the status quo. And my assumption for that is the consistent revenue they receive from the status quo. They opted to keep the core intact and they (likely) have opted not to pursue any redefining trades in the summer or during the season. They are content that they are providing the city with an entertaining NBA product.
Slimjr
March 29th, 2012
1:06 pm
Woody’s back in town tomorrow night and it is a trap!!
Slimjr
March 29th, 2012
1:08 pm
Title should read:
The Bulls Dismantle The Hawks
rollow lawson
March 29th, 2012
1:08 pm
This dude is running this team into the ground. Why is Jason collins allowed to touch the floor? The look from T-Mac’s face on the bench says it all. Larry Drew has no clue.
BILLY KNIGHT
March 29th, 2012
1:10 pm
Nice two see family tree still attache.
WOODSON VS. LARRY
Slimjr
March 29th, 2012
1:15 pm
These next two losses will let even die hard Hawks fans know that this team will probably be dismantled in either the 1st round or 2nd depending on match ups…It was never Mr Gearon Jr’s intent to pursue a Championship in this town when he became an owner. Never was, so don’t expect his teams to play like an elite squad..They are not configured as such..Then add underachieving GM such as RIck Sund who wouldn’t know how to configure a championship caliber team if it was dropped in the lap. See his 32 year career in the NBA. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. Then you hire a coach who is not gifted to perform this task and there ya go.. A playoff meltdown will follow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It wont be a surprise.. Last nights game was a shot across the bow and the one to come Friday night maybe a direct hit?
FIRE GEARON Jr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
northcyde
March 29th, 2012
1:45 pm
In this season, the Hawks would be better off with Jordan Crawford than his 5th cousin Jamal. If you want to add a streaky, sometimes inefficient scorer, I’ll take Jordan. Realistically I’d take Jason Terry. But don’t act like a dude shooting sub 40% FG is the scoring punch the Hawks need.
Like I said a few days ago, the Hawks aren’t judged by how they play vs Detroit and Utah, they’re judged by how they play against the teams that stand in our way from making a deep run in the playoffs ( East Finals or NBA Finals ).
Drew and Del Negro are the only coaches of playoff level teams that doesn’t have a set 8 or 9 man rotation. Instead of forcing teams to match up with the Hawks, Drew is overly concerned with matching up with his opponents.
DREW…..unless you’re playing a team in which most of the offense runs through a low post scoring center, Jason Collins should NEVER PLAY.
NEVER
NEVER
NEVER
LOL @ the notion of the Hawks trying to hide Ivan. So I guess they’re not going to play Ivan in the playoffs then, because every Hawk playoff game will have a national audience in about 4 weeks.
They better put a Klingon cloaking device on Ivan if they want to hide him.
northcyde
March 29th, 2012
2:00 pm
TEAGUE
JOHNSON
MARVIN
SMITH
HORFORD
ZAZA
JO. CRAWFORD
K. FARIED
Had the Hawks simply not made the Kirk Hinrich trade last year, we’d have those 8 players going into next season. Jordan and Faried are two young talents that most good teams would covet due to their youth, playing ability, and most of all, their cheap contracts.
So we’d have a legit backup center, a tenacious rebounder, and a gunner that could create his own shot plus play spot minutes at PG.
Oh well.
Melvin
March 29th, 2012
2:24 pm
Astro,
I agree…
Melvin
March 29th, 2012
2:32 pm
Northcyde,
You can’t have young players like Jordan and Faried on the roster if you keep trading and selling your draft picks. This organization prefer to bring vets on min salary contract so the league will pay part of their salary which helps the Hawks bottom line. Prior to this year, the Hawks would stay below the luxury tax line so they could get revenue sharing at the end of the season. B/c they will be tax payers this seasson, they decided to sell their pick to help offset the tax penalty.
Hung Low
March 29th, 2012
2:47 pm
The Hawks are tired. They have the best 4th quarter defense in the league, but when you play 5 games in 6 nights your energy is not gonna be there. Hopefully Horford is healthy for the last couple games of the year going into the playoffs because I think he will be a sparkplug. T-Mac better play with a sense of urgency in the playoffs also. His talent, regardless of age, is rare. GO HAWKS
Najeh Davenpoop
March 29th, 2012
2:55 pm
“Had the Hawks simply not made the Kirk Hinrich trade last year, we’d have those 8 players going into next season. Jordan and Faried are two young talents that most good teams would covet due to their youth, playing ability, and most of all, their cheap contracts.”
And they’d be spending less with that roster.
drmaryb(*(*)
March 29th, 2012
3:11 pm
Comprende?
It seems like the Hawks don’t understand it is more cost effective to draft young talent like Faried, Jordan, Singleton and move out the apparent less cost effective players like Marvin et.al.
Looks like Sund doesn’t really have a plan, he is just blindly throwing money at it and, hoping something good happens.
doc
March 29th, 2012
3:18 pm
no norhcyde, they would still have two undeveloped players in suits literally sitting behind green bibby? and collins. bibby’s contract wasnt up until this year.
doc
March 29th, 2012
3:20 pm
basg slogan is “we rent vets”.
doc
March 29th, 2012
3:21 pm
patriotic ring to it.
drmaryb(*(*)
March 29th, 2012
3:30 pm
MC
on that video, you need to “pop that collar” … you handsome devil, you.
northcyde
March 29th, 2012
3:45 pm
Doc, my post specifically said NEXT YEAR not this year. Even with Bibby on the team, he’d be the backup PG behind.Teague, with Jordan playing the 2. At times, Jordan could’ve even been the reserve PG. Kenneth Faried would DEFINITELY play, because he’s a defensive energy guy in the mold of Josh Smith.
Bibby could’ve easily have been amnestied.
Young talents on rookie contracts are normally packaged to bring in legit players. But hardly anyone is going to trade for a guy making the vet minimum. Or if they turn out to be ballers, you now have a high level reserve or possible starter on the cheap.
Melvin hit it on the head and illustrates one of the major problems I have with the front office.
northcyde
March 29th, 2012
3:48 pm
When JJ says that people don’t know their role, it means that Josh is taking way too many shots. With JJ now being the 2nd option, and fans not wanting him to score in ISO situations, the 2nd option now has to pick and choose his spots, or become unconscious like the 1st option.
doc
March 29th, 2012
4:05 pm
northcyde i SPECIFCALLY said they would be pretty much untested based on previous coach tedencies in this organization so we would still be at square one.
only wealthy organizations can amnesty players. the basg cant utilize players and picks but can count money. amnesty costs real dollars like scoreboards.
Melvin
March 29th, 2012
4:10 pm
northcyde,
I know Josh has been taking a lot shots of late but can we really say he’s been taking shot attempts away that other’s would have taken. I can’t see Marvin increasing his shot attempts, Teague and Kirk both seem to get a good amount of shots. Maybe there’s a case to be made for Joe but I think it’s more of Joe not being aggressive then it is of being he’s not getting his touches.
I know it’s been discuss that give Player X more shots than his avg would increase or the team outlook would be better but the thing that some folks don’t realize is that it takes skills to create shot attempts at this level. Defenses are too good to just allow a player to attempt a (quality) shot whenever they like to.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 29th, 2012
4:20 pm
“Bibby could’ve easily have been amnestied.”
Or simply just bought out last year at the trade deadline or salary dumped to Miami, although the DASG would probably not have wanted that.
WHEN ARE THEY MOVING ?????
March 29th, 2012
4:21 pm
GREAT TO SEE THEM LOSE, FANTASTIC !!!!!! JUST LIKE THEIR OWNERS, LOSERS !!!!
SEATTLE NEEDS THIS WORTHLESS CRAP TEAM & LEAGUE, SELL SELL SELL PLEASE,
THEN NO SPORTS AT THE PHILIPS, GREAT !!!!
hawks STINK, nba STINKS, asg LIES & STINKS AND GETS DRUNK !!!!!!!
SELL THIS TEAM TO SEATTLE, NOW, WE DO NOT NEED THIS AWFUL FRANCHISE POISONING ATLANTA ANY LONGER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SEATTLE WILL DO IT RIGHT !!!!!!
hawks STINK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Buddy Grizzard
March 29th, 2012
4:39 pm
FIX YOUR COLLAR MC! LOL!
doc
March 29th, 2012
4:43 pm
deng takes away the oxygen that jj breathes is why he cant find room to shoot. unless he does something new to get separation before he can get some shots.
Rod from College Park
March 29th, 2012
4:51 pm
:I know it’s been discuss that give Player X more shots than his avg would increase or the team outlook would be better but the thing that some folks don’t realize is that it takes skills to create shot attempts at this level. Defenses are too good to just allow a player to attempt a (quality) shot whenever they like to.”
Ding!!!, Cosign, Exactumundo. Marvin was supposed to get more shots once Jamal left. What happened?
Rod from College Park
March 29th, 2012
4:56 pm
One thing I have noticed a lot of on this team especially from Joe, Kirk, and Josh is passeing up shots at point blank range to pass to a 3 point shooter. If you are in the lane, below the free throw line going towards the hoop, there is no reason for you to pass the ball to a guy behind the 3 point line, unless Larry Bird or Reggie Miller are on the floor. You should either get a layup, or a foul. I have no idea why we have become so 3 point and long jumpshot happy.
The Truth
March 29th, 2012
5:01 pm
A Trip Down Memory Lane
Seeking ‘another voice,’ Hawks part ways with Woodson – ajc Friday, May 14, 2010
http://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-hawks/seeking-another-voice-hawks-527675.html
“It was a hard decision,” Sund said Friday. “When I analyzed and looked at it, I went round and round. Finally I think it got to the situation where the compelling thought is, ‘Maybe change is good for everybody.” – RickSund
“That happens quite a bit in the NBA. Maybe the players need to hear another voice, and maybe Mike needs to talk to another group.” – RickSund
“Hawks management had doubts that Woodson’s approach would lead to further improvement, according to people with knowledge of the decision. Among its concerns was that Woodson would have an increasingly difficult time getting through to his players if he returned” – ajc
In retrospect, Sund prescription of change for the Hawks is emerging to be more smoke and mirrors, less substance. Yes the offense has marginally improved with a new “green” PG, less ISO-JOE and more Josh Smith; but the defense has gone from being competitive to the outhouse under LD. We are constantly losing games to good and elite teams because our marginally improved offense is not enough to overcome our declining defense. LD has failed to educate the fundamentals of elite defense. The team blasé approach to defense is an emulation of their coach. LD priority is only offense similar to Mike D’Antoni. They are getting victories against lottery-bounds and the sub-pars by out scoring them, but against the good/elite teams, they are getting exposed.
During LD pre-game interview, LD suggested the recipe for beating the Bulls will be to play playoff style basketball. But after the first 8 minutes of the 1st quarter, the Hawks digressed into what looked to be a pre-season brand of defense; no intensity, no active hands, no shots or passes contested for 4 quarters. However, the Bulls (and other good/elite teams) constant excellent defense caused the Hawks offense to look mediocre.
During LD post interviews, LD can always seems to summarize the right remedy for “what went wrong” but has trouble translating them into “game-time adjustments”. The Hawks players just aren’t responding to him. In contrast, when the Bulls were down early in the 1st quarter or lead slipped in the 3rd, Bulls coach Thibodeau calls timeout and his players responded on his command. This “new voice” LD prescription Sund has offered is tuning out to be underwhelming.
So now, nearly two years later, it is LD that is also having a “difficult time getting through to his players”. How ironic is that?
doc
March 29th, 2012
5:42 pm
nice comments truth.
najeh in a perfect world tha would happen only that scenario is rare in the nba where a player goes from starter to your own buy out in three weeks or less. it would be like the basg and sund hanging a sign on their necks saying “how stupid are we?”, rather than trying to spin it, “now, he is somebody else’s problem, along with that mo guy and that young out of control sniper and we got the pearl in a real guard who plays defense and can shoot as well and still get in the lane.” now “arent we smart!” is the sign we where.
no way do they play that action and lose money in the buy out without anything to replace him with even, najeh. that would be very hard to spin to people to buy playoff tickets and without hinrich we might not get the match up with the magic nor beat them.
Slimjr
March 29th, 2012
6:11 pm
ISO stopper?
Deng is an ISO stopper, Matt Barnes is an ISO stopper….Hmmmmm
And you thought Collins was the difference? Hahahahaha
Larry just lucked out….. Yup….
PLAYOFF Basketball= ISO stopper, which means game, set, and match…
Astro Joe
March 29th, 2012
6:21 pm
Hawks fever is spreading all over the city (like a virus).
The Braves’ bullpen picture became a little clearer Thursday when they traded Jairo Asencio, the pitcher formerly known as Luis Valdez, to the Cleveland Indians for cash.
bigdave
March 29th, 2012
6:29 pm
“One thing I have noticed a lot of on this team especially from Joe, Kirk, and Josh is passeing up shots at point blank range to pass to a 3 point shooter. If you are in the lane, below the free throw line going towards the hoop”
if they would simply come to a stop and give a hard fake they’d probably get to the line. if you’re that close to the basket, you have to look to finish. our guys love doing this..
Najeh.. this is the joint:
http://neweracaptalk.com/blog/?p=1267
so dont expect them j’s to come to an end anytime soon in the form of post ups. smh. ive been saying that Drew has no problem with trading his jumpers in favor of his passing ability in his “motion offense”.
Slimjr
March 29th, 2012
6:33 pm
Hey, the Braves make a trade for cash too? Nice one AJ! Hahaha
Slimjr
March 29th, 2012
6:37 pm
Woody’s Revenge!
Orlando is not a push over and Woody had them down by 39 points in the 3rd quarter?
Are you kidding me? I have never seen Orlando get crushed like that..Sheesh…
Oh no………..
Slimjr
March 29th, 2012
7:02 pm
Entertainment!
Hey Gearon, you want to entertain us? Add Tiny to your squad! He will pack da house!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTnC0RBXwws&feature=related
Big Lou
March 29th, 2012
7:16 pm
The sad truth is that LD is no better or worse than about 80% of the league’s coaches. He isn’t bad, he’s just average. And to be quite honest, within the next five years, the Hawks have a better chance of blowing up this roster and rebuilding into a contender by drafting superstars than they do of hiring one of the few elite NBA coaches in existence.” Najeh
Usually I would agree with your analysis. Yet, this time your homerism is clearly showing. One, they don’t need an ELITE coach, just one that knows how to make adjustments/sub properly. LD is mediocre in these areas, IMO; and those ares are the most important during the playoffs. If the owners weren’t so dang cheap, they could have gotten better than Woody’s assistant. I mean, there are plenty of teams who are WINNING franchises that have excellent assistant coaches.
If I am not mistaken, Tom Thibodeau was an assistant coach with Doc Rivers during the Celtics NBA championship run. They don’t have to be already established. All it requires is research, and a willing to pay.
Big Lou
March 29th, 2012
7:17 pm
willingness* to pay
Actually
March 29th, 2012
7:42 pm
“I have never seen Orlando get crushed like that..Sheesh…”
The only crush I see is that big man crush you have on Woodson and the Knicks. You’re no different than the 76ers troll, except that you are here all the time.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
March 29th, 2012
8:26 pm
Woody’s pregame speech tomorrow night:
“Look guys. I want to be back as Knicks coach next year of course, but if nothing else happens the rest of the season, PLEASE win this damn game. I resent the entire Hawks front office for letting me guy. Beat these guys’ heads in”
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
March 29th, 2012
9:04 pm
*go
Slimjr
March 29th, 2012
9:08 pm
actually crushed…..actually been trolling?
Troll is a word reserved for those football fanatics on the DX3 blog who define those who dont kiss their azz…
pot calling a fryin pan? Got it bud? Good…
SteveW
March 29th, 2012
9:19 pm
Northcyde – “Bibby could’ve easily have been amnestied.”
If we have to sell draft picks to pay for being slightly over the Luxury Tax line, no way a 6 million dollar contract gets amnestied, unless some major creative accounting got involved.
Slim – Didn’t Orlando get held to 59 pts a few weeks ago in a slaughter? They do get beat pretty bad on occasion.
But last nite was Chandler shutting down Howard.
SteveW
March 29th, 2012
9:27 pm
Orlando has been crushed a few times this season:
Boston – Lost 87-56
New Orleans – Lost 93-67
Bulls – Lost 85-59
Orlando can lose in pretty bad fashion even to teams not named the Knicks.
Just Joe
March 29th, 2012
9:29 pm
Boston and Chicago held Orlando to under 60 pts and beat them by 20+. They are a mess when the 3’s don’t fall.
Walt Frazier
March 29th, 2012
9:36 pm
It seems like the referees are not calling fouls and obvious defensive hard in-the-paint contact at all. I understand players flop, but lately, the referees calls are either non-existent, or just plain missed. There seems to be a regression in refereeing today and it’s as bold as ever. You would think that in 2012, that there would be a change? Naw, it has regressed-to the level of physicality where someone on the court is going to get seriously hurt by another player who hasn’nt been getting calls, to snap. There’s nothing wrong with physical play, but I always thought that the NBA was a level above street ball.
Walt Frazier
March 29th, 2012
9:41 pm
The other thing is: why do we need to have three referees? Back in the day, two worked just fine. Having two referees made them work the game better. Now a days, the referees don’t even run the court anymore. I remember when the refs were running on the same floor as the players and would sometimes have to get out of their way, but it was exciting to watch, because the refs were always close to the action. Nowadays, the refs just stay on the side making bad calls and using the replay.
KevinM
March 29th, 2012
9:41 pm
Astro Joe
March 29th, 2012
6:21 pm
Hawks fever is spreading all over the city (like a virus).
The Braves’ bullpen picture became a little clearer Thursday when they traded Jairo Asencio, the pitcher formerly known as Luis Valdez, to the Cleveland Indians for cash.
AJ, that old saying, cash is king, works for organizations that aren’t playing with a full deck.
Actually
March 29th, 2012
9:42 pm
“Troll is a word reserved for those football fanatics on the DX3 blog who define those who dont kiss their azz…”
Oh, so you’ve been trolling there, as well. Not surprised.
Hawks Fan Down Under
March 29th, 2012
10:02 pm
After reading that article about the firing of Woodson I feel sorry for Josh Smith. The guy really wants to win a title and does everything he can to make it happen (even if we dont all agree with what he’s doing). But it’s clear that the owners of the Hawks simply dont care about winning a title, which I have to say seems really bizarre. Why buy a team then not care about winning. Who are these people?!
Najeh Davenpoop
March 29th, 2012
10:12 pm
“the defense has gone from being competitive to the outhouse under LD. ”
The Hawks’ defensive efficiency this year is higher than in any year under Woodson.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 29th, 2012
10:15 pm
The Braves traded Asencio for cash because he was out of minor league options and the alternative was releasing him and getting nothing in return. He wasn’t going to make the 25 man roster.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 29th, 2012
10:15 pm
In other words, it’s more like if the Hawks had traded Wanamaker for cash during preseason knowing that he wasn’t going to make the roster.
Buddy Grizzard
March 29th, 2012
10:25 pm
W O O D S A N I T Y ! ! !
KevinM
March 29th, 2012
10:39 pm
What’s sad is we all know in our gut LD and Sund are coming back no matter what and we get to once again pin our improvement on #24.
Gosh, where would we be with Al?
Answer: the same spot.
doc
March 29th, 2012
10:43 pm
let the game begin okc-lakers that is.
0-45 and counting!
Grandad
March 29th, 2012
11:02 pm
Well said … Najeh
” The sad truth is that LD
is no better or worse than about 80% of the league’s coaches.
He isn’t bad, he’s just average”
Along with that:
Our players are not as great as we think thet are.
doc
March 29th, 2012
11:12 pm
“actually” i have never heard your blog name before
here is what a blog troll is:
1. Blog Commenter Troll – One who floats in and out of many different blogs and leaves anonymous or non-anonymous comments that fit the “troll” trademark code of, well, shame?
2. Blog Owner Troll – The blog owner troll is the top of the food chain in blog trolls. The blog owner troll of course owns a blog, and uses the blog to create “troll-like” blog entries, sparking conversation from other blog trolls, and occasionally luring an ignorant non blog-troll into his/her trap.
Blog comment trolls are nothing new and have been around since comments on blogs existed. Webopedia offers the following definition of trolls which works well for blog comment trolls.
(v.) (1) To deliberately post derogatory or inflammatory comments to a community forum, chat room, newsgroup and/or a blog in order to bait other users into responding.
Blog comment trolls are a continual pest just like they continue to be on message boards. Google shows over 11,000 results for blog trolls. Trolls and spam are one reason some bloggers started moderating their comments. A few posts from bloggers angry about troll problems can be found here, here, here, here, here and here.
so by definition you “actually” are the troll andwhen you come back under another name you will define yourself even further.
slimj has his opinions which by definition are not what creates troll behavior just yours. welcome if you “actually” have something to say other than continue to act the troll otherwise we all see youbfor the silly weak person you are.
slimj is here every day posing only as himself. again you “actually” are the only troll visiting until you recreate yourself into another one by the next caricature you bring.
doc
March 29th, 2012
11:15 pm
or grandad we “expect” them to be no matter their realistic capabilities.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
March 29th, 2012
11:21 pm
This core has been together 5 years, and Joe says guys still don’t know their roles.
*Yawn*
Buddy Grizzard
March 29th, 2012
11:55 pm
Northcyde – “Bibby could’ve easily have been amnestied.”
No way we Amnesty Bibby when we got the last 2-3 years of Joe’s contract hanging over this franchise.
The Truth
March 30th, 2012
12:23 am
“The Hawks’ defensive efficiency this year is higher than in any year under Woodson.” – Najeh
Defensive Efficiency – the number of points a team allows per 100 possessions. Currently the Hawks are ranked 7th and seeded 6th. The following teams are ahead of them:
1 Philadelphia – seeded 4th
2 Chicago – seeded 1st
3 Boston – seeded 7th
4 New York – seeded 8th
5 Miami – seeded 2nd
6 Dallas – seeded 6th
As illustrated, the DEF EFF ranking isn’t telling the true story of a team for a variety of reasons such as Strength of Schedule Ranking and performance against sub-par teams vs. performance against elite/good teams. It’s only showing the average DEF EFF ranking against all teams played to date. As an example, from this listing alone, Boston and New York seem to be out of place. But in reviewing the Strength of Schedule 2011-2012, these 2 teams are ranked dead last (29th and 30th) of the 30 NBA teams in schedule strength per this link:
http://espn.go.com/nba/stats/rpi/_/sort/SOS
So Boston and New York soft schedule contributed to their high DEF EFF ranking. Since we can’t break-out the DEF EFF ranking for the sub-par teams vs. performance against elite/good teams, we can however examine the Hawks YTD DEF EFF number (0.978) vs. their last game number (1.134) against the Bulls (BTW, the higher this number, the worse the team defense). If you just used the Bulls game as an example, the Hawks would be ranked the worst team in the league based on DEF EFF number.
Of course this would be unfair to use one game to define the Hawks DEF EFF ranking, but it shows how they drastically fluctuate when they play an elite team like the Bulls (probably most good/elite team for that matter).
BTW, I’m no Woody lover just stating the obvious; the Hawks Strength of Schedule 2009-2010 under Woodson was ranked 16th vs. 2011-2012 Schedule under LD is ranked 19th. Also, the 2010-2011 schedule under LD shows a ranking of 26th, almost the weakest in the league. So Woody had a stronger schedule than LD 2 years. As previously stated, stronger a schedule, affects the defensive efficiency ranking.
Cwebb
March 30th, 2012
6:54 am
Slimjr,
We don’t care about your knicks. Stop posting about them in a Atlanta Hawks forum please
terrell
March 30th, 2012
7:51 am
Woody gets a standing ovation before the game, and the Knicks go on to blow out the Hawks. Priceless. lol
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 30th, 2012
7:51 am
Freedom of Speech!
who died and made CWebb a blog police? If, you dont like it: Scroll Bruh. You just posted about them too. If, you don’t know how to scroll in America, then relocate to CUBA where no one is allowed to blog at all, that should solve all your personal bog issues.
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 30th, 2012
7:59 am
The hawks will win tonight. I doubt if we lose three in a row. Unless, there is blow back from the non-role player(s). Hopefully, professionalism will prevail and, the Hawks come out with defensive intensity against the KNICKS!
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 30th, 2012
8:01 am
Topic for Discussion!
Either way, this blog will be discussing the KNICKS and hawks for the next three days. LOL
vava74
March 30th, 2012
8:43 am
After the win against UTA I predicted a 0-4 or 1-3 week.
The Hawks are working according to what was expected.
The win against UTA was draining both physically and mentally and the Hawks lack that last inch of mental stamina to understand that following that 4OT win, to collect another win would catapult them to “these guys are for real” status (even if the win would be only against MIL and even if they then lost to CHI).
These two losses are “understandable” but not having one of those defeats is what you would get from a contender to the ECF.
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 30th, 2012
8:50 am
Missing Parts!
vava, but, the Hawks are not true contenders, they never were. The have a huge missing part: a bonafide scoring big man with an inside – outside offensive game plan every trip down the floor. We are all jump shooters and, the worst kind at that: 16′ to 22′ dependent (the worse kind there is).
How many more times does that need to be said? 45?
Ra'mon
March 30th, 2012
9:08 am
I am still scratching my head wondering, why Al wasn’t dealt for Nene! There’s no way in the world, Karl wouldn’t rather have Al than McGee. And there’s no way in the world, Nene, Josh, and Joe wouldn’t be the best front court in the EAST! With Teague – Kirk – Joe – Josh – Nene, the Hawks beat the Bulls in a 7 game series, hands down. That trade should have been made in the off season.
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 30th, 2012
9:21 am
Ra’mon
No GM is going to trade for Horford right now. He has sustained a severe injury that is rarely seen in basketball. Besides Kwame, I don’t know of ANY precedent of a player coming back 100% from this and, elevating their play. Like Amare’, Horford may not even be able to get an insurance policy after he returns and, prepare to sign his next contract.
Please remain realistic when it comes to Horford. Sure, he has been a coach’s selection for two All Star squads, but that’s because besides Dwight there is no other center in the east. (see Hibbert?) Do you really think he is a bonafide AS? Of course not, he ran an uncontested race for that back up slot.
Kaman was there though, and, for a second round pick, which we sold.
doc
March 30th, 2012
9:40 am
dmb there is finally another center in the east and he could well be the difference tonight along with mr noah who rejected a fews hots and made zaza irrelevant the other night. let me introduce you to a mr chandler who leads the league in field goal percentage and absolutlely loves to play defense and block shots. btw, if mr collins finds the floor tonight against such a presence then it is my best guess we are destined to lose and i would be questioning mr l drew’s sanity one more time. we may have no answer for their center and he could well be the difference. as an aside, as good as he is his nimbers dont reflect it at 11 and 10.
vava74
March 30th, 2012
9:52 am
drmaryb,
I do not necessarily agree. I think coaching plays a HUGE factor in the NBA and we desperately need an upgrade on the bench.
I agree that LD is not the worst coach in the league, but he his average to the point of not being by far good enough to make what I believe to be a decent roster achieve its potential.
It befuddles me that an ownership group is willing to dole out a 120 million contract and than hires a 1 million per coach to put on the floor the strategy which is supposed to make those 120 million generate a return.
I was dead wrong when I said that LD could be a good solution, mostly due to being bored to death with watching Woody’s ISO-Joe and the switching D but also because I am a romantic by nature: always on the side of the underdog, the “against all odds” thing.
Back to the court:
Josh has been pretty effective when he takes his game inside and properly coached he would not venture that frequently beyond the elbow to launch jumpers.
When he shoots in rhythm from that distance, he is not that bad. Not bad at all.
There is a substantial number of jumpers that Josh takes as last seconds bail out shots and I credit that to poor coaching.
Still on Josh:
People are harping about him taking too many shots, however, they forget the most important fact.
Yes, some of those shots could be “avoidable” but by receiving #1 status, Josh is playing more focused and more motivated than ever on both ends of the court.
When he gets more touches he is also more consistent on the boards, playing consistent D beyond blocks, prowling the passing lanes for steals, kicking out for good assists and in general I have the impression that his dumb TOs have also dropped.
I think there is the distinct possibility that with the #1 status on our offense, Josh would become less and less inclined to take those bad shots.
He definitively wants more touches and in the past when he was not getting the number of touches he wanted, he took bad shots – IMO – because he felt that if he did not take those, he would not have more chances to score.
I say: give him the touches he wants and hopefully he will start to exercise better criteria in taking them.
We cannot expect him to suddenly develop perfect judgment on how and when to curb his point making “yearnings” and to understand how to play against a guy like Garnett.
He has only been getting a good number of touches for a few weeks now and for about 25 games.
That is not enough to terminate the Josh is #1 experiment and in particular given the very very very promising results we have been witnessing.
STRETCH
March 30th, 2012
9:59 am
Truth, Your post at 5:01PM
Yep, that pretty much said it all. And that really coincides with what JJ was saying when he talked about players knowing their roles.
Championship caliber teams sustain other teams runs or when they start games down they fight back. Knowing your role as a player contributes to that, and JJ didnt know his role the other night either when he scored like what 11 points?
The Hawks are a jumpshooting team and some guys still refuse to listen to Drew who sometimes doesnt have a clue. The Hawks are no where near challenging for a title with this current group.
O'Brien
March 30th, 2012
10:04 am
Northcyde,
When JJ says that people don’t know their role, it means that Josh is taking way too many shots..
I don’t think Josh is taking too many shots. I think he is taking too many jumpers. But I think the recipe for beating the Hawks in the playoffs will be simple. Take away JJ (some teams can do it with one guy) and play off Josh and entice him into taking jumpers.
If Josh is hitting jumpers, we have a chance. But if he is clanking, we could be in trouble (unless one of our bench mob gets hot).
O'Brien
March 30th, 2012
10:06 am
Ra’mon,
I am still scratching my head wondering, why Al wasn’t dealt for Nene!.
Hawks would not have made that trade last year because Nene was about to be a free agent. Denver would not have made that trade this year, because 1) Al is hurt and 2) Al’s contract and Nene’s contract are similar.
One of the reasons Denver traded Nene is because of the emergence of Faried, they felt him and McGee combined could offset some of Nene’s numbers, and would save them a lot of money in the process. Asset management. Something the Hawks know nothing about.
That being said, once Horford comes back and proves to be healthy, Hawks should explore trade options for him (I think he could bring back at least 2 solid assets in return and save us some money in the process, which will be needed to resign Josh and Zaza).
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 30th, 2012
11:19 am
Re-Tooling!
“One of the reasons Denver traded Nene is because of the emergence of Faried, they felt him and McGee combined could offset some of Nene’s numbers, and would save them a lot of money in the process. Asset management. Something the Hawks know nothing about. ” -OB-
Yes Sir … OB, Denver is re-tooling with youth for the future. All they need is one or two pieces now.
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 30th, 2012
11:38 am
Nitty – Picky!
I can’t really nit-pick Josh’s game because he has the heart of a champion. Is he perfect? No, but who is? I will live with his mistakes, because , Josh is the best player on his team. Then, zaza, then, Ivan. We should build around these guys because they play hard game in and, game out. These guys want to win and, you can NEVER have too many of those players.
Josh will modify his game when more qualifeied help arrives. Until Teague takes over, Josh has to initiate some of the offense. Joe is a specialist much like Ray Allen, he should just focus on getting open and making his shots when it is there or, pass to the open man.
Stick with Teague, he WILL get better over time. Horford will help down the road but, he may be the most tradeable asset we have when, he returns and get’s past his injury. Marvin is not tradeable and we should relegat him to a 6th man role and let him walk when his terms are up. Or, sign him to a cost effective contract. Just don’t feed Marvin in the post – he has awful hands and offense in traffic.
Zaza should remain a Hawk for the forseeable future. anyone not mentioned is just an extra, except maybe Pargo.
BIG DOG
March 30th, 2012
11:52 am
Hinrich should be coming off the bench to back up Teague.
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
BIG DOG
March 30th, 2012
11:55 am
Teague, Joe, Josh, Ivan, Zaza
Hinrich, Green, Tmac or Vlad, Marvin, Dampier
Collins is done with one arm.
This rotation make more sense.
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
BIG DOG
March 30th, 2012
12:02 pm
The rotation with a bigger line up by moving Josh 2 SF and Joe to SG make this team better on defense.
Team are destroying the Hawks with there smallish back court.
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
Rev in Tampa
March 30th, 2012
12:41 pm
MC is tweeting that Linsanity and Stoudemire are out. This means that Bibby will get lots of playing time at point. Hawks better take full advantage of this. TEAGUE TIME!
Rev in Tampa
March 30th, 2012
1:02 pm
Is there any national tv coverage for the game? I’ve got a meeting at church until after 10pm and would like to record it to watch later.
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 30th, 2012
1:19 pm
hawks win! jOSH takeover!
The Truth
March 30th, 2012
1:24 pm
“Is there any national tv coverage for the game?” Rev
Sorry Rev, no nat’l coverage, just local TV – SSO-ATL However, if you have an android smartphone, you can try downloading the free app Tunein; browse for the station “680″ The Fan. If you find it, they are also covering the game.
Rev in Tampa
March 30th, 2012
1:35 pm
Truth, I appreciate the information. Might not work since I’m leading the meeting.
Its just as well that there is no national tv. No chance of the Hawks embarrassing themselves again on a national stage.
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 30th, 2012
1:43 pm
Rev< you right about that! no national tv = a win!
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 30th, 2012
1:52 pm
Leadership – Pass it On!
vava, you are so right about the coaching here. Phil Jackson could maybe, get this years roster to the ECF. Maybe, without the injuries … he definitely would’ve got Josh to the AS Game at the very least.
Phil coulda’ made “Twinkle Twinkle Little Star” sound like Beethoven.
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 30th, 2012
1:54 pm
The Salesman!
A real coach could sell Josh on thriving in the paint.
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 30th, 2012
1:56 pm
I’m in love with – vava! (she winks)
Michael Cunningham
March 30th, 2012
2:17 pm
new blog posted. shutting down this thread.