Atlanta Hawks: Bucks 108, Hawks 101

Vivlamore reporting from Milwaukee. Here is my updated game story, with quotes, from the Hawks’ 108-101 loss to the Bucks Tuesday night.

MILWAUKEE — The Hawks were wary of Monta Ellis — and for good reason.

Ellis scored a game-high 33 points, including 17 in the decisive fourth quarter, to do in the Hawks Tuesday night. The guard, acquired at the trade deadline from the Warriors, was too much for the Hawks down the stretch en route to a 108-101 victory at the Bradley Center.

Hawks coach Larry Drew was worried about Ellis before the game. He might have nightmares about him after the showing.

“He is pretty good,” Drew said. “He got into a roll. He got into a rhythm. He was making shots. He is a good player. We tried a couple different things but he just got into a zone there.”

Ellis hit 7 of 9 shots in the fourth quarter, including the Bucks’ first six points, as they erased a three-point deficit and broke open a close game.

“We let him get into a rhythm and he is a scorer,” said Hawks guard Joe Johnson, who missed most of the first quarter to get five stitches inside his lip. “In this league, if you let scorers get into a rhythm they will pick you a part all night long. I thought down the stretch, individual defense just wasn’t that great.”

The Hawks (30-21) had a four-game win streak snapped and lost for only the second time in the past eight games. They dropped to 28-4 when scoring 90 or more points. Josh Smith led the Hawks with 30 points and 18 rebounds, including 15 points in the second quarter for his 24th double-double this season. Ivan Johnson had 17 points, hitting all seven of his field-goal attempts, including a 3-pointer. Jeff Teague had 15 points, Marvin Williams and Johnson had 11 and Kirk Hinrich had 10 to round out the double-figure scorers.

The Bucks (23-27), fighting for a playoff spot, snapped a two-game losing streak while playing their fifth game in six days. They also received 18 points from Brandon Jennings and 16 points from Drew Gooden.

As much as Ellis hurt the Hawks, they can point to turnovers as their true killer. The Hawks turned the ball over 22 times – 10 in the first quarter and three crucial times in the fourth quarter. Teague had seven turnovers.

“It wasn’t them scoring baskets, it was us taking care of the ball,” Teague said. “I put a lot of that on me. We had a lot of turnovers early and key turnovers late. I had a lot of those. That was the difference tonight.”

The Hawks entered the game fifth in the NBA in fewest turnovers per game at 13.98. Drew said his team “shot ourselves in the foot” with the carelessness.

“We can’t expect to win a game, especially on the road, if we are going to turn the basketball over at that rate,” Drew said.

The Hawks used a 17-4 run to close the third quarter, erasing an eight-point halftime deficit, and took a 79-78 lead. Teague’s short jumper with 8.9 seconds remaining in the third quarter gave the Hawks their first lead since they led 17-16 with 5:46 remaining in the first quarter. Six different Hawks scored during the third-quarter run.

Then Ellis took over.

The Bucks jumped on the Hawks midway through the opening quarter. They ended the period on a 15-6 run to take an eight-point lead at 31-25. The Bucks shot 53.8 percent in the first quarter with Ellis leading the way with 10 points.

The Hawks, by stark contrast, shot only 39.1 percent from the field and committed 10 turnovers. Johnson played only the opening two minutes, 18 seconds of the first quarter after leaving to get stitches inside his lip when he collided with teammate Zaza Pachulia. He returned early in the second quarter.

The Bucks built a 17-point lead in the second quarter before Smith caught fire. Smith was accessed a technical foul early in the period after shouting “And one” to an official after scoring an inside basket in which he thought he was fouled.

Smith, who scored only two points in the first quarter, had 17 points at the half. He scored 13 of the Hawks’ final 17 points of the second quarter — including the final nine — to trim the disadvantage back to nine points at the intermission, 55-46.

“I was trying to be efficient and get some stuff to the basket,” Smith said. “Then, I was able to recognize what I was doing wrong on my jump shot and I was able to correct it.”

The Hawks were playing their fourth game in five days — including Sunday’s four-overtime thrilling win over the Jazz. They return home Wednesday to host the Bulls.

It will be a short turnaround to forget the damage done by Ellis, who scored just four points Monday in a loss to the Knicks.

“We were looking at different matchups,” Drew said. “We were just trying to give him a different look. We didn’t want him to get comfortable with the same guy guarding him. We do that quite often to try to take a guy out of his rhythm, out of his timing. Tonight, it didn’t work.”

138 comments Add your comment

Slimjr

March 27th, 2012
11:40 pm

tyler

March 27th, 2012
11:40 pm

ricardo anyaz

March 27th, 2012
11:40 pm

bad coach
Inconsistent players
cheap and sad front office

Welcome to Atlanta Hawks Basketball!. When Kirk Hinrich he is a borderline scrub gets this many minutes you know the coach has rocks in his head.

Slimjr

March 27th, 2012
11:41 pm

Slimjr

March 27th, 2012
11:41 pm

tyler

March 27th, 2012
11:42 pm

oh well…..as far as the game goes- nice comeback to take the lead but I never really felt like we were gonna win this one. Defense was bad and we missed a ton of open jumpers. Turnovers were critical too- I have a bad feeling about tomorrow night as well.

City Of Atlanta Still Recovering From William Tecumseh Sherman

March 27th, 2012
11:44 pm

hawks need a point guard point blank

City Of Atlanta Still Recovering From William Tecumseh Sherman

March 27th, 2012
11:45 pm

wait…hawks need a vet point guard not someone who will look t pass it to joe every single time down the court

Slimjr

March 27th, 2012
11:54 pm

Monte buried the Hawks. He’s pretty good

TMACfan

March 28th, 2012
12:13 am

Josh Smith passed Nique for double doubles… WOW

TMACfan

March 28th, 2012
12:14 am

Slimjr trying to get a DUI

bbfan

March 28th, 2012
12:19 am

Hope Josh never makes the allstar team, that dude has been on a mission every since.
Seems like Teague always has that “deer in the headlights look”. I don’t want the ball, you take it :lol:

City Of Atlanta Still Recovering From William Tecumseh Sherman

March 28th, 2012
12:23 am

EXACTLY bbfan

Rusty

March 28th, 2012
12:24 am

I’m sure that JT has strict orders not to look for his shots but to keep feeding everybody but especially JJ & JS.

drmaryb.[*_*].

March 28th, 2012
12:24 am

Imitation is the highest form of Flattery!

Except for the TO’s, Jeff was impersonating Bibby tonight. Walking the ball up and, passing the ball to Joe at half court.

Many times I saw the paint wide open and Jeff was looking around and dribbling, picked up the dribble early and often and forced soft, telegraphed passes to the Bucks.

A really disappointing performance by Jeff. Well, just walk away from this one and, hope it doesn’t come back to bite for that #3 spot. The best part about this contest was IVAN blossoming and growing with confidence before our eyes. It’s so beautiful to see, like watching a flower open before your very eyes.

G-Nite cohorts.

Rusty

March 28th, 2012
12:29 am

Love Ivan Johnson,should be getting a lot more minutes but why would LD give him more.

bigdave

March 28th, 2012
12:49 am

lol.. i wish i could remember the discussion where a frequent blogger was inferring that Magic was hurting.. or posturing. yea right..

Buddy G

March 28th, 2012
1:15 am

Slimjr you ready for Woodsanity tonight vs. ORL?

E43

March 28th, 2012
1:21 am

There’s nothing wrong with Jeff Teague. All he needs to be is aggressive. That’s hard to do playing with 3 ballhandlers on the court at all times. The reason I prefer Josh Smith at SF is because you add a big body up front and you ad big at the 3 minus one ball handler hogging Teague’s possessions. Meanwhile Zaza is almost averaging a double double. No true center is coming to Atlanta. I think they should just get over it when Al returns and keep Zaza a starter until they’re able to find whatever it is they’re looking for in a center. Reality is that they wont be able to afford one and stay competitive at the same time. They’re in denial if they think that they can.

Z-Ro tha crooked

March 28th, 2012
1:45 am

Hawks STANK period! Larry Drew looks like a AA dropout

tyger

March 28th, 2012
1:58 am

The heart was willing, but the legs were not…

After back-back-back and a plane ride…
I knew this was improbable, really wished…
LD would’ve rode with the reserves more…

It was apparent, they were playing in mud…
Ivan, after absences, had the legs and it showed…
JJ’s poor line directly attributed to 55min vs. Utah…

Seems, that wouldve been a clue to go deeper…
Willie Green, TMac play 6min…
Collins, Dampier, Stack, Vladi – DNP

The team fell apart in the 4Q due to fatigue…
They are professsionals, not supermen…
You ride w your money players, definitely, but…
With Chicago, NY, Philly up after 3 straight and 4OT…

Common sense oughta kick-in at some point…
Turnovers were atrocious, but a result of fatigue…not just Teague.
I’m LDs biggest fan, but he overplayed his hand on this one.

Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde

March 28th, 2012
2:08 am

Big Ivan For President

vava74

March 28th, 2012
2:20 am

Probably tired, as I had predicted.

Also on cue:

- Luc Mbah played major minutes since he is a JJ stopper;

- Ellis and the rest bounced back after laying an egg against NYK.

Too much negative factors weighting in.

LD, as usual, had no answers to sudden game changing events (”we tried different things…”)…

What about ordering someone to deck Monta to stop his mojo? Winning implies doing dirty stuff here and there.

The SAS were a class act with ONE thug (Bowen) doing the dirty work, like kicking guys on their Achilles or stepping on their feet.

vava74

March 28th, 2012
2:20 am

surfmaui

March 28th, 2012
3:25 am

Give these guys a break. After back to back to back with 5 total overtimes thrown in (4 in the last game) and unbeliveable minutes these guys were exhausted. Shorthanded they have shown incredible heart and tenacity. With what they’ve had to work with I’m seldom been prouder of what the Hawks have accomplished without Horford and I’ve been a hawk fan for more than 55 years. They haven’t got the bodies to win it, but unlike past years these guys have shown me a lot of character. Get Al back and keep this group together for one more year.

will jackson

March 28th, 2012
6:10 am

vava74

March 28th, 2012
7:12 am

It’s also bad luck that we faced MIL after a let down defeat and a probably pretty intense Skiles’ chewing… that lead to changes to the line up for the better (Luc instead of Delfino).

And, we will be facing the Bulls ALSO after a let down defeat against DEN, making it highly probable that Thibs also chewed his men violently and will have them come focused and motivated even if Rose does not play…

5th game in 6 days…

STRETCH

March 28th, 2012
7:47 am

“As much as Ellis hurt the Hawks, they can point to turnovers as their true killer. The Hawks turned the ball over 22 times – 10 in the first quarter and three crucial times in the fourth quarter. Teague had seven turnovers.”

Point G cant turn the ball over 7 times! I love Teague, but man does he still have work to do. Gotta pick it up guys and go .500 or better down the stretch.

Dawg

March 28th, 2012
7:55 am

The the 3 games in a row and then 4 ot’s there was no way that the Hawks should have even been as close as they were.

I applaud them for going thru the worst scheduling ever by the NBA.

Section 303

March 28th, 2012
8:02 am

Not a good night last night. Hope for better tonight.

I still do not think the Bulls are clearly the 2nd best team in the East. All the talking heads think the Chicago/Miami series is a forgone conclusion. Not me. I agree, Miami is the best team in the conference right now. The Bulls are not on that level. The Hawks would be 2 and 1 against them, had they hit free throws in the early January game at the UC. Bulls are good, but not any better than any of the other teams 2-6 in the East.

STRETCH

March 28th, 2012
8:02 am

They will probably finish 37-28 but hopefully better. But they need to make a statement with 5 home games to close out the regular season. Make it to the second round and get ready for the off-season.

And a few free agents to go after:

Deron Williams – Long shot, but gotta try
OJ Mayo – Explosiveness off the bench
M. Beasley – Productive starting SF
S. Hawes – Big center (young, with upside)
G. Wallace – Active, quick SF would make all-star team if put in right place

The team as currently constructed is a really deep team, jumst missing a coupld pieces. But thats why Atlanta is a not so good city for sports, because management fails year in and out to address the “common sense” fixes to their sports teams.

The Hawks have needed, Center for years and and the Braves have needed a Left Fielder as well, yet the keep covering bullet holes with band aids.

Section 303

March 28th, 2012
8:03 am

On another note….assume the Bulls fans will take over Philips tonight, per usual. Atlanta fans = worst fans in history of the world.

Admiral Snackbar

March 28th, 2012
8:10 am

loved it when Ivan gave bahamoute a forearm shiver after a shot just for the heck of it.
moute looked at him like what the heck and Ivan ignored him and walked away.
that is the kind of big we have needed for a long time, a mean one!

mountain_jim

March 28th, 2012
8:19 am

Hawks could have drafted Ellis in the 2nd round, 2005 draft, in the pick they took Salim Stoudamire. Ellis was still around until the 40th pick.

Some of us here at this blog, and the squawk wanted knew about Ellis and wanted Billy to pick him, but nooooooooooooooo .. :(

rollow lawson

March 28th, 2012
8:42 am

Larry Drew did a horrible job in using his bench last night. Why is McGrady not playing? He should good and well rested.

O'Brien

March 28th, 2012
8:51 am

One of the deals thrown out there before the deadline was Monta Ellis and Biedrins for JJ and filler. That would have gotten us out from under JJ’s contract. Not sure Golden State was interested though.

The big issue with JJ (imo) is he doesnt have the right mentality to be the scorer we need. Too often he goes passive.

And last night was a good opportunity for LD to make some moves that might have helped, but I didnt see much from him in terms of strategy. How do we let Monta (a small shooter) get 17 in the 4th like that?

That being said, hopefully we can give a good effort at home tonight. There will be lots of Bulls fans in the Arena, so we need to play well and shut them up.

WHY ARE THEY STILL HERE ?????

March 28th, 2012
9:03 am

GREAT TO SEE THEM LOSE, EXCELLENT !!!!! WHO REALLY CARES ???

THEY MUST BE MOVED TO SEATTLE AFTER THIS WORTHLESS SEASON AND WE WILL
BE RID OF THIS SICK TEAM AND OWNERS ONCE AND FOR ALL !!!

nba BASKETBALL STINKS AND NOBODY SHOULD CARE AND EVERYONE SHOULD WANT THEM GONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hawks STINK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MOVE ASAP PLEASE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

vava74

March 28th, 2012
9:10 am

ummm… is it me or suddenly there is a distinct stench floating around this blog? :-D

JM

March 28th, 2012
9:14 am

Got to ditto earlier post on LD. What is he doing? You have a pretty good bench, use them. There is no reason Smoove, JJ and Zaza should be logging so many minutes. T-Mac, Stack, even Vlad needs more time – even if its only a couple minutes. It is obvious our Hawks are tired. Go Hawks!

Astro Joe

March 28th, 2012
9:16 am

OB, that would have been a horrifc trade (IMO). Biedrins can’t get steady playing time on an awful team and Ellis is a one dimensional volume scorer.

Strange to see a team shoot 50% and win the rebounding fight but lose. Those TOs will kill you every time. All of the starters were bad in that area, not just Teague.

Slimjr

March 28th, 2012
9:25 am

Ivan looked like the energizer bunny..He had a magnificent game coming off the bench! Love Ivan!

IVAN for President!

Yea Buddy, looking forward to the Knicks vs Orlando and the Hawks vs Chicago! NBA basketball is fantastic!

I forgot Ellis went 40th in that 2005 draft? Wow, what a baller..Probably the best scorer coming out that year by far!

Dawg

March 28th, 2012
9:29 am

What has happened to our bench? Why no minutes when the team is obviously dragging? If LD can not change, our team will be dead in the playoffs due to fatigue.

Slimjr

March 28th, 2012
9:39 am

Section 303

March 28th, 2012
8:03 am

“On another note….assume the Bulls fans will take over Philips tonight, per usual. Atlanta fans = worst fans in history of the world.”

0-45!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You got to give to receive..

DawgNole

March 28th, 2012
9:51 am

All the excuses about fatigue and travel are just that–excuses, and poor ones at that. The Bucks had just come off a 5-games-in-6-nights fiasco, including their loss Monday night in NY (while the Hawks rested).There are NO (legitimate) excuses.

DawgNole

March 28th, 2012
9:54 am

Admiral Snackbar
March 28th, 2012
8:10 am

loved it when Ivan gave bahamoute a forearm shiver after a shot just for the heck of it.
moute looked at him like what the heck and Ivan ignored him and walked away. that is the kind of big we have needed for a long time, a mean one!
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Good post. You’re pretty observant. I saw that poke by Ivan and had to chuckle. Just subtle enough to escape the refs’ eyes, but firm enough to get a point across.

DawgNole

March 28th, 2012
9:56 am

Slimjr: “0-45!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You got to give to receive.”
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Well put, Slimjr. Those who take pro sports fans in ATL to task seem to forget what the fans have been given here for nearly a half-century.

DawgNole

March 28th, 2012
10:01 am

vava74
March 28th, 2012
9:10 am

ummm… is it me or suddenly there is a distinct stench floating around this blog?
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Presumably that was in response to WHY ARE THEY STILL HERE ????? and all his excessive CAPS and punctuation (?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)–not to mention his questionable point of view. You’re right, vava74, it did create a distinct stench.

DawgNole

March 28th, 2012
10:08 am

Posted this morning on last night’s blog (a discussion of philosophies):

Sautee: “’What you should be saying is a good effort is NOT enough. NO excuses.’- Dawgnole

“No my friend, that’s what YOU would say. I think their effort was laudable, despite losing the game. Too bad you seem to think that all the rest of us should think just like you. Damn, what a boring place this would be. You should celebrate the vast range of views here, but you seem to have a hard time with that. You are an intelligent blogger, but you cross the line when you start telling other bloggers what they “should” say. No offense intended, just FYI.”
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You have a problem with my suggesting what bloggers “should” say, then you proceed to tell me what I “should” celebrate. There goes any credibilty you may have had. Bloggers express their opinions–that’s what this is for–regardless of how I think they “should” feel. And that’s all my entries are–opinions. I’ve crossed no lines here.

If you think a “good” effort and the resulting loss is “laudable,” then you represent the very reason ATL’s pro sports teams have claimed only one championship in more than 150 seasons of competition. There are NO excuses for that level of ineptitude, and acceptance of losing by you and too many others will only help ensure that sports history repeats itself in this city.

DawgNole

March 28th, 2012
10:11 am

Guess I better stop now (applause). Looks like everybody’s left the room.

vava74

March 28th, 2012
10:42 am

DawgNole
March 28th, 2012
10:01 am

Yes, you are correct. Fortunately, the stench is gone now. It really beats my imagination what is the purpose of someone going into a Hawks blog to say that they should be gone from ATL…

It sounds too much like a scorned girlfriend to me.

On your “negativism”, I would like to point out the following:

- There will be a time (or maybe not) that you will look at sports only as the entertainment product that they are and accept the good and the bad more lightly.

- I am already on that phase (not that I am ancient, I am on my late 30’s) but there was a time that I was a rabid soccer fan here in Europe (by rabid, I mean “college sports fan like super rabid”.

- Nonetheless, I too identify this ownership as not being serious about getting a championship: basically, their objectives are not the same as the fans’ (they are in this as an entertaining and eventually profitable business and that’s it).

- To make a championship winner, in particular in a league where parity is a mirage (not only financial but also institutional – ie. some stars who are seen by the league as NBA’s main product will always get a differentiated treatment which clashes with what should be the truth on the floor) you need:

- Loads of $$$$
- Intelligence (excellent personnel spanning Ownership/GM/Coach/Scouts/MDs/Players/…) and
- Luck

The ASG does not have enough $$$$$, nor intelligence (across the board*) to make the Hawks a winner.

* However, I think our roster is much better than people give credit for and that with a REAL head coach and a few tweaks, we could contend.

So, you should look at games like I do:

I almost had an heart attack during the 4OT thriller and I cannot even imagine if we were competing in the finals (I think I would need to dope myself into a very relaxed mood to withstand the pressure).

BUT

I was only very very very mildly bugged with yesterday’s loss (which I could not watch because tip off at 1AM makes it impossible to watch all games).