Atlanta Hawks at Bucks: Game thread
Vivlamore reporting from Milwaukee.
Here is a quick look at tonight’s game against the Bucks with the Hawks coming off Sunday’s four overtime victory over the Jazz – their third game in three nights. Add tonight’s game at the Bucks and tomorrow’s home game against the Bulls and that’s five games in six nights. The Bucks are playing their fifth game in six nights.
The Hawks will be without forward Vladimir Radmanovic due to his back. Radmanovic missed four straight games with the back injury before playing 17 minutes against the Wizards on Saturday. He did not play (coach’s decision) in Sunday’s epic against the Jazz.
While Radmanovic is the only player out (besides Jannero Pargo recovery from an appendectomy) coach Larry Drew said several other players are hurting and weary.
“We will see how it goes,” Drew said of going deep into his bench. “I think the one thing I’ve been pretty adamant about, I’ve got to be very mindful of the minutes my starters are playing. I don’t want to pile a lot of minutes on those guys. We do have some guys who are a little banged up, nicked up. Having to play tomorrow night, I don’t want to pile the minutes. Hopefully, we can come out and play well and I can have a normal rotation. If that’s not the case, it’s not the case. But we will keep an eye on the minutes.”
Drew admitted he is not sure just how his team will respond to another game so soon.
“Don’t know,” Drew said. “We’ve come off three tough games. … I know we needed that day off yesterday in the worst way. We came in for shoot-around today and guys seem to have a little energy, which I was happy to see. As far as a performance, to be perfectly honest, I don’t know. I’m anxious to see how we respond after these last three ball games.”
Joe Johnson played 55:23 against the Jazz. Zaza Pachulia (54:10) and Jeff Teague (52:32) also broke the 50-minute mark.
Drew expects an even more up-tempo Bucks team with the trade-deadline addition of Monta Ellis from the Warriors. The Hawks got similar games from the Bucks in two previous meetings this season (both five-point Hawks wins). Ellis adds another scoring dimension.
“I’ve always been a big Monta Ellis fan,” Drew said. “He is, in a lot of ways, similar to Joe Johnson. He can really score once he gets it going. … As far as playing up-tempo that doesn’t change. They just have another guy to break the defense down and put points on the board.”
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Melvin
March 27th, 2012
10:23 pm
Is there any other teammates in the league that get their shots block more than ZaZa/Marvin?
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
March 27th, 2012
10:23 pm
Steve Holman sh4t on Teague during the 4th quarter. Dude had idiotic turnovers.
DawgNole
March 27th, 2012
10:24 pm
Najeh Davenpoop
March 27th, 2012
10:14 pm
Hawks making me look bad predicting they would beat all the losing teams.
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How many times do I have to tell you to quit making those optimistic predictions? Wouldn’t you rather be wrong and have the team win? Or at least be right when they lose? Cmon Naj. Don’t forget the history here.
atlchris77
March 27th, 2012
10:24 pm
Our defense really failed us tonight.
Sautee
March 27th, 2012
10:25 pm
“Hawks offense was less than intelligent down the stretch. Too much perimeter, not enough post.” – Najeh
To your point, the shot chart for the 4th quarter showed 4-4 in the paint, 3-5 mid-range, and 1-7 on threes. Ugh. And the worst part is how many empty trips we had.
Rod from College Park
March 27th, 2012
10:25 pm
Remember many Hawks fans did not want Monta Ellis. Now we have to see him destroy Joe for years to come.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 27th, 2012
10:25 pm
I don’t feel like looking this up to see if it’s true, but I’m pretty sure the Hawks have a losing record when Vivlamore is covering the team.
James
March 27th, 2012
10:26 pm
Whoever captures that 8th seed should be interesting to watch in the playoffs in the first round. The Knicks have more talent than the Bucks, but the Bucks seem to have better chemistry and they play better team basketball. Still, both teams are interesting. The Knicks right now seem more likely to capture the 8 seed, but it will be fun to watch the seeding down the stretch of the regular season.
atlchris77
March 27th, 2012
10:26 pm
Look at our turnovers. That is how you lose.
DawgNole
March 27th, 2012
10:27 pm
tb hawk fan
March 27th, 2012
10:20 pm
the excuses are they are the hawks
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Well, NO excuses–except for that one.
Big Lou
March 27th, 2012
10:27 pm
Well, my prediction is right so far. I expected a loss tonight and a close win tomorrow.
James
March 27th, 2012
10:29 pm
“Is there any other teammates in the league that get their shots block more than ZaZa/Marvin?”
Oddly enough, Gerald Wallace, who is a pretty athletic finisher, was close to or leading the league in getting shots blocked for a while this season, I think. Glen Davis, I believe, led the league in blocked attempts in one of the previous seasons also. So, Marvin and Zaza are definitely not the worst.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
March 27th, 2012
10:32 pm
Jeff Teague seems to always get owned vs. Milwaukee. Didn’t see game but I’m sure Jennings owned him
atlchris77
March 27th, 2012
10:32 pm
Ivan continues to show he deservs more minutes. He will be huge in the playoffs. His defense will needed if we match up with miami. As long as we get fair refs.
Big Lou
March 27th, 2012
10:36 pm
The true ethos of the Hawks will be tested manana. Let’s see if they come out with a W.
James
March 27th, 2012
10:36 pm
“Jeff Teague seems to always get owned vs. Milwaukee. Didn’t see game but I’m sure Jennings owned him”
One of the main reasons for his perceived struggles vs. Milwaukee/Jennings is probably the fact that Jennings is one of the few guards who is just as quick, if not quicker than Teague, which makes it difficult for him to penetrate into the paint. When you keep Teague out of the paint, you take away a lot of his effectiveness. Teauge doesn’t seem to have much confidence in his outside game yet, or at least it doesn’t seem like it.
steven a smith
March 27th, 2012
10:36 pm
Better Team right now. Ivan Should be starting until Al gets back…
James
March 27th, 2012
10:37 pm
Teague actually had a respectable stat line in this game, outside of the turnovers.
Slimjr
March 27th, 2012
10:39 pm
Rod from College Park
March 27th, 2012
10:25 pm
“Remember many Hawks fans did not want Monta Ellis. Now we have to see him destroy Joe for years to come.” cosign…
Monte the assassin!
Sautee
March 27th, 2012
10:40 pm
“What you should be saying is a good effort is NOT enough. NO excuses.”- Dawgnole
No my friend, that’s what YOU would say. I think their effort was laudable, despite losing the game. Too bad you seem to think that all the rest of us should think just like you. Damn, what a boring place this would be. You should celebrate the vast range of views here, but you seem to have a hard time with that. You are an intelligent blogger, but you cross the line when you start telling other bloggers what they “should” say. No offense intended, just FYI.
BTW, I was in Athens for the years you were (and longer, I’d imagine).
Slimjr
March 27th, 2012
10:40 pm
If they lose tomorrow, they could lose all 4 in 5 nights? Shoot…..
steven a smith
March 27th, 2012
10:42 pm
Bunch of scrubs losing to a 1-man-show. Blow it up Mr.Sund…
Slimjr
March 27th, 2012
10:42 pm
Monte owned Joe!
nick.g
March 27th, 2012
10:45 pm
Be a good game tommorow
James
March 27th, 2012
10:49 pm
I’m a bit surprised that Joe struggled so much in the fourth with Dunleavy guarding him. By my recollection, Dunleavy has never been known as a good or great defender, but he was effective against Joe. I guess the length bothered Joe, and with Joe not relying on quickness as much as size to score, I suppose Dunleavy’s possible lack of foot-speed really didn’t hurt affect his ability to effectively defend Joe.
Still, if you would have told me that Dunleavy was going to do a better job defending Joe than Mbah a Moute before the game, I wouldn’t have believed it.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
March 27th, 2012
10:55 pm
Najeh Davenpoop
March 27th, 2012
10:25 pm
“I don’t feel like looking this up to see if it’s true, but I’m pretty sure the Hawks have a losing record when Vivlamore is covering the team.”
You sure seem to have the time to.
Let us know what you find out.
nick g.
March 27th, 2012
10:58 pm
Enter your comments here
yodaddybrother
March 27th, 2012
11:09 pm
@James
Dunleavy is a good defender. He’s not great but he won’t get killed. He’s taller than Joe Johnson and just as big and quick. Plus he has long arms so he can bother shots that way. Actually he’s just a good NBA player.
I actually like this Bucks team without that overrated center. Now they are playing to their best players strengths which is run n gun (controlled) on offense with Jennings and Ellis and then gamble in the passing lanes and dig downs on defense.
Melvin
March 27th, 2012
11:17 pm
James,
Gerald Wallace and Glen Davis are not teammates. Wallace get a lot of his shot blocks b/c he drive to the basket alot and Glen doesn’t have much of vertical leap. However, I think both guys are better scores than ZaZa and Marvin…
jepps23
March 27th, 2012
11:49 pm
I think Ivan and the bench will be the difference with the hawks attempting to get past the 2nd round this year
cdog
March 28th, 2012
12:43 am
why is kirk hinrich and za za pachulia even touches the floor? both are terrible along with jeff teague who continues to played stupid.hope the season hurry up and ends
kiss the hawks rears
March 28th, 2012
6:35 am
Same ole excuse beat Jazz lose to Bucks and Ny Knicks here at (i never set foot in) Phillips arena March 30 a day that will feature Lin gettin 44pts in a rout over hawks 131-79 as all the hawks players take off day worryin over why atlanta has more blacks gettin killed then a al sharpton dress up!Atlanta Hawks ajc kiss butts anyway here always sugar coat fact with atlanta sprits runnin n ruining any team they own…ask thrashers folks You see why empty seats now….we be done and gone in 1st round as Josh smith and Joe Johnson will shoot birds at crowd and we Boo and forgive lousy idiots owners and come back in 2013 with a New Hawks slogan…..We give up Just come anyway n see Bad NBA basketball in 2013 season!
DawgNole
March 28th, 2012
9:37 am
Sautee: “’What you should be saying is a good effort is NOT enough. NO excuses.’- Dawgnole
“No my friend, that’s what YOU would say. I think their effort was laudable, despite losing the game. Too bad you seem to think that all the rest of us should think just like you. Damn, what a boring place this would be. You should celebrate the vast range of views here, but you seem to have a hard time with that. You are an intelligent blogger, but you cross the line when you start telling other bloggers what they “should” say. No offense intended, just FYI.”
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You have a problem with my suggesting what bloggers “should” say, then you proceed to tell me what I “should” celebrate. There goes any credibilty you may have had. Bloggers express their opinions–that’s what this is for–regardless of how I think they “should” feel. And that’s all my entries are–opinions. I’ve crossed no lines here.
If you think a “good” effort and the resulting loss is “laudable,” then you represent the very reason ATL’s pro sports teams have claimed only one championship in more than 150 seasons of competition. There are NO excuses for that level of ineptitude, and acceptance of losing by you and too many others will only help ensure that sports history repeats itself in this city.
DawgNole
March 28th, 2012
10:05 am
Posted this morning on last night’s blog (a discussion of philosophies):
Sautee: “’What you should be saying is a good effort is NOT enough. NO excuses.’- Dawgnole
“No my friend, that’s what YOU would say. I think their effort was laudable, despite losing the game. Too bad you seem to think that all the rest of us should think just like you. Damn, what a boring place this would be. You should celebrate the vast range of views here, but you seem to have a hard time with that. You are an intelligent blogger, but you cross the line when you start telling other bloggers what they “should” say. No offense intended, just FYI.”
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You have a problem with my suggesting what bloggers “should” say, then you proceed to tell me what I “should” celebrate. There goes any credibilty you may have had. Bloggers express their opinions–that’s what this is for–regardless of how I think they “should” feel. And that’s all my entries are–opinions. I’ve crossed no lines here.
If you think a “good” effort and the resulting loss is “laudable,” then you represent the very reason ATL’s pro sports teams have claimed only one championship in more than 150 seasons of competition. There are NO excuses for that level of ineptitude, and acceptance of losing by you and too many others will only help ensure that sports history repeats itself in this city.
DawgNole
March 28th, 2012
10:09 am
Sorry for the double post.
Bob Cousy
March 28th, 2012
11:30 am
Losers!
Walt frazier
March 28th, 2012
11:32 am
Hey whatever happened to the Jeff teague superstardom? He’s a reserve on most teams
Ray
March 28th, 2012
12:35 pm
I still believe in Jeff Teague the problem he’s not a superstar yet, but compared to many other PG’s we’ve had he’s the best since a long time ago.
Yes even over Bibby and Kirk right now why cause he’s young and the only thing he really doesn’t have is that outside shot yet.
tree rollins
March 28th, 2012
2:33 pm
“I’ve always been a big Monta Ellis fan,” Hawks coach Larry Drew said before the game. “He is, in a lot of ways, similar to Joe Johnson. He can really score once he gets it going.” That’s great to hear the Bucks now have their equivalent to Joe Johnson per Larry Drew. Now does that mean the Bucks are paying HIM $120M also like we do Joe Johnson???
cpsman_atlanta
March 28th, 2012
3:08 pm
While I’m late, I’ll still add in my comment… BOYCOTT ATLANTA SPIRIT GROUP!!!!!