Hawks 93, Nets 84

  • The Hawks have to take this W, a professional effort against a scrappy opponent, and move on to Washington. They have a small margin for error that was razor thin without Zaza Pachulia, a reliable rebounder and source of easy points (from free throws if not always layups) on a team short of both and needing both tonight.
  • The Hawks never could quite shake the Nets because of Deron Williams, New Jersey’s offensive rebounds and their own bad possessions. Finally, Josh Smith went to work in the post and got to the line, the Hawks outscored New Jersey 31-15 in the period and they secured their fourth W in five.
  • “Sometimes you have a game like this where teams trade baskets and [it's] team makes a stand defensively and creates some separation,” Larry Drew said.
  • The Hawks did it in the fourth quarter, when they played solid team defense and really made the Nets work for their shots. New Jersey is not a good offensive team but it’s not like that always matters with the Hawks. That thin margin and all.
  • This time Josh settled for jump shots long before fatigue became a factor. But then he scored 21 points on 14 shots in the second half, when the Nets couldn’t handle his athleticism and skill around the basket without fouling. He finished with his latest monster line: 40 minutes, 30 points on 25 shots, 12 rebounds, four assists against one turnover, two blocks and a steal.
  • Drew on Josh: “I know he’s tired. I’ve been riding him. When we need baskets we put him in the post and he responds very well. When he attacks the basket he’s tough to defend. I tell him, ‘Don’t let people off the hook by settling for jump shots.’”
  • Early in the game Joe Johnson was making 3-pointers and slipping in for his floater. Then he got his shot blocked on a couple drives in the second quarter and never really got back on track. But credit him for being noticeably more decisive with the ball in the first few games. He had four assists against no turnovers in the second half but he’s got to do better than two rebounds when the opposing wings are getting 15.
  • Jeff Teague took the challenge against D-Will and struck the right balance of driving to score and driving to set guys up. Six assists with no turnovers and 17 points on eight shots. The three rebounds were a bonus, too, on a night the Hawks needed everyone to help.
  • Kirk Hinrich finding his shot (4 of 6 on 3-pointers) has to rank high among the positive developments for the Hawks heading to the playoffs. Drew likes Hinrich for his defense but it doesn’t matter if he can’t score and kesp turning it over.
  • Marvin Williams had a successful return with 11 points on eight shots and six rebounds in 26 minutes. If he can produce lines like that on a consistent basis then the Hawks wouldn’t need to rely as much on the does-he-have-it-tonight games of Vladimir Radmanovic and Tracy McGrady.
  • Ivan Johnson’s seven rebounds in 21 minutes is a reason to wonder why Drew insists on starting specialist Jason Collins (two rebounds in 14 minutes). Ivan’s four turnovers and Twin’s zero points are reminders that, outside of Zaza and Josh, the Hawks aren’t getting many points from their frontcourt.
  • You might have heard that D-Will is pretty good. “They always pose a problem because of Deron,” Drew said. “He’s always been a hard defend for us.”
  • D-Will needed 20 shots for his 20 points but in the context of the Nets it’s hard to blame him for his high usage. Williams is impressive to watch and it’s no wonder there are teams with better talent eager to put him in control. “He can shoot it, drive it, post it, he’s strong and he has the green light,” Teague said.
  • Jannero Pargo on the timetable for his return: “It depends on how I feel, but a week or so.”
  • After the game, Teague nervously watched his little brother play a game for that other school next door at the Dome.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

151 comments Add your comment

i_am_soulstar

March 23rd, 2012
11:04 pm

Slimjr

March 23rd, 2012
11:05 pm

Najeh Davenpoop

March 23rd, 2012
11:05 pm

“If he can produce lines like that on a consistent basis then the Hawks wouldn’t need to rely as much on the does-he-have-it-tonight games of Vladimir Radmanovic and Tracy McGrady.”

We have been waiting for consistency from Marvin for six years. In other words, Marvin also has a does-he-have-it-tonight game.

Other than the two or three gimme shots he blew as usual, he was not bad.

Slimjr

March 23rd, 2012
11:05 pm

“Durant and Westbrook combine for 85 points!!! Nuts!!!!!!!!!!! Crazy!!!

High-sider

March 23rd, 2012
11:06 pm

K.W.

March 23rd, 2012
11:06 pm

LOL MC “that other school.”

phil

March 23rd, 2012
11:06 pm

Fuhst?

Fire i am soulstar!!

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

March 23rd, 2012
11:07 pm

I bet if Marvin had been playing in that OKC/Minn game and Ridnour had been guarding him, he would have scored 8 points

High-sider

March 23rd, 2012
11:07 pm

Even JJ Barea goes for a triple-double – 25pts., 10rebs., and 14asts.!

phil

March 23rd, 2012
11:08 pm

MC, you do a good job here. I like your candor.

And i like it when LD tells Josh to stop shooting jumpers. At least he says it.

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

March 23rd, 2012
11:08 pm

“Sometimes you have a game like this where teams trade baskets and [it's] team makes a stand defensively and creates some separation,” Larry Drew said.

No, this is pretty much every night. You claim you care about defense, yet we let awful teams keep games close

FIRE LD

Rev in Tampa

March 23rd, 2012
11:11 pm

“Zaza Pachulia, a reliable rebounder and source of easy points”

Not with the game on the line with an empty lane and less than five seconds left in the game.

phil

March 23rd, 2012
11:12 pm

5th in east means out in round one…

Rev in Tampa

March 23rd, 2012
11:14 pm

“New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady restructured the remaining three years of his contract, helping the team create $7.2 million in salary cap space this year, a source confirmed. As part of the restructure, Brady had his 2012 base salary reduced from $5.75 million to $950,000. The team then took the remaining $4.8 million, combined it with a $6 million roster bonus due to him, and gave him a $10.8 million signing bonus. Brady doesn’t have his salary reduced, he just receives the money in a different form. Patriots owner Robert Kraft, speaking at a community event on Thursday at Gillette Stadium, calling the restructuring a “win-win all-around” for Brady and the team.”

This is the difference between a championship MENTALITY and what we have here in Atlanta.

SteveW

March 23rd, 2012
11:23 pm

Felt like Damp could have helped us for a few minutes tonite. But I guess getting Collins some burn is a good thing.

I know some guys on this blog don’t want Patric Young from UF – another small tweener with no offensive game. But I think that guy has the motor and athleticism to become better than Noah. Not as tall, but alot more beefy, and has a good motor. We could do worse than him in our frontcourt if he’s around when we draft.

18 games left for the Hawks. 8 games over .500. If we play .500 ball the rest of the way, we’re at 37-29. Not bad for all the injuries we’ve had. We just need to take care of business at Washington tomorrow. Utah has been ballin’, won 5 in a row. They rebuilt in a hurry after trading DeRon. That 4 man frontline they’ve got of Jefferson and Millsap starting, and Favors and Kanter off the bench is a load for 48 minutes per nite.

Slimjr

March 23rd, 2012
11:24 pm

Rev, at least they are consistent: 0-45 ECF visits……PAthetic……

SteveW

March 23rd, 2012
11:25 pm

JeJe – And have been blocked by Ridnour with an inability to post him up as well.

But on D, we are 5th in the League – can’t complain too bad. Especially with all of the OT games, which allow teams to get extra points on us.

Joe Johnson

March 23rd, 2012
11:26 pm

Restructure deez nuts Rev.

Melvin

March 23rd, 2012
11:27 pm

Grandad,

Are you watching my boy CJ Leslie play against your guy Thomas Robinson.?

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

March 23rd, 2012
11:27 pm

“This is the difference between a championship MENTALITY and what we have here in Atlanta.”

Contracts don’t matter. Matty Melt could make $6,000 a year and it won’t do jack!@#$ because he is Matty Melt

Slimjr

March 23rd, 2012
11:29 pm

Total Rebounds Nets:45 Hawks:38

This will be the Hawks undoing come playoffs..yup…

They better fix this….

Melvin

March 23rd, 2012
11:29 pm

Hawks have to play 3 games in a row and all of their opponents have at least one day rest before the game. This schedule sucks….

SteveW

March 23rd, 2012
11:30 pm

I say we finish 3rd seed – now 2.5 games back of Orlando, and for some reason I think we may play the Bucks. The Bucks have been hot, and they’ve got alot of talent there – deep also. Anyhow, those things are not empirical data, safe picks – just gut feelings that are sometimes right.

And we beat Chicago in the 2nd round after beating the Bucks in 7. Beat the Bulls in 6. And lose to the Heat in 6 in our 1st ECF..

Oh well, we can hope can’t we?

Melvin

March 23rd, 2012
11:30 pm

Slimjr,

I didnt see your Knicks update tonight.

Rev in Tampa

March 23rd, 2012
11:31 pm

Joe Johnson you are a bit testy… or should I say testes.

Slimjr

March 23rd, 2012
11:31 pm

“Contracts don’t matter. Matty Melt could make $6,000 a year and it won’t do jack!@#$ because he is Matty Melt”

HaHaHa…

Good to see Green back in the NBA..He went MIA for a while

Slimjr

March 23rd, 2012
11:32 pm

Cause your one blog behind..Already posted an hour ago Sir…But nice try….lol!

Najeh Davenpoop

March 23rd, 2012
11:33 pm

You can’t restructure NBA contracts.

High-sider

March 23rd, 2012
11:33 pm

@phil

“Fuhst?

Fire i am soulstar!!” – phil

Dang, Phil, haven’t you heard of Ebonics?!?!?!

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

March 23rd, 2012
11:34 pm

“I just didn’t see energy tonight,” Woodson said. “We were a step slow from the very beginning. We’ve got to play at a much higher level than we did tonight.”

SteveW

March 23rd, 2012
11:35 pm

7 games in 9 days for these Hawks, 10 in 14 days – LD you need to rest them when you can.

But man, most people put us in the lottery when Al went down. Then JJ, Marvin, Green, Collins, Vlad, TMac, Pargo.

And here we are at 28-20. That’s a good record.

I mean we’re down Al, ZaZa, Pargo, and Vlad – and we still take care of business, even against a pretty bad team. But the Nets play way better on the road than at home. And they were missing Lopez, but still…

And Josh has come of age. At 26, he becomes the awesome beast we all knew he could be. I’ll take that back. He’s better than I ever thought he could be on a consistent basis. Take away most of his jumpers, and the guys elite.

Slimjr

March 23rd, 2012
11:36 pm

I just didn’t see energy tonight,” Woodson said. “We were a step slow from the very beginning. We’ve got to play at a much higher level than we did tonight.”

Close your eyes, sound like something Larry says all the time… LOL!

SteveW

March 23rd, 2012
11:37 pm

Najeh – I thought you could restructure max deals like JJ after 3 years. Part of the new CBA. Or did they take that out?

ahawk

March 23rd, 2012
11:37 pm

Hey you know Josh is playing mostly Great without him they wouldn’t be winning as many games as now. And I must admit when he is hot I don’t mind him shooting now. The problem is that when he is missing like crazy from outside he just can’t resist chunking them up. Tonight the other team could not stop him at all on the inside if he had taken it to the hoop for even half of those clunkers he could have had 10 to 15 more points and the game would not even have been close. When he is doing this Dominique sits in the broadcast booth cringing and shaking his head while he is saying Josh they haven’t got any shot blockers they can’t stop you and sure enough when he took it to the hoop no one could challenge him. Josh you are a really good player but if you would grow up you could be a great one.

Section 212

March 23rd, 2012
11:39 pm

Just got home. A win is a win. We are witnessing the maturing of Smoove before our eyes. Is it possible that Hinrich is slowly getting his shooting range???

SteveW

March 23rd, 2012
11:40 pm

Speaking of the Nets, they’ve got a billionaire owner, and an awful team if they don’t re-sign DeRon, and don’t get Dwight next season. I mean an awful team. And they traded some good picks to get DeRon as well.

But word on the street is DeRon is in Dallas, and it’s a done deal, at least in his mind, according to sources.

And ‘Melo is unhappy in NY according to ESPN Radio.

SteveW

March 23rd, 2012
11:42 pm

Maybe the Woody honeymoon lasted all of 5 games in NY.

Section 212

March 23rd, 2012
11:47 pm

“Melodramatic unhappy in NY” what a joke. He asked to join the Knicks. Perhaps Woody is treating him like he treated Smoove…LOL!

doc

March 23rd, 2012
11:49 pm

melo unhappy and george karl is still smiling in denver like a cheshire cat.

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

March 23rd, 2012
11:51 pm

Yo Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde, my brother:

You gonna be distributing the FIRE WOODY T-Shirts at Philips next Friday?

I have been to many games in recent years but have never been so excited for a game (INCLUDING Playoffs)

SteveW

March 23rd, 2012
11:53 pm

Najeh – Here’s a Dec.8th summary of the new CBA from ESPN.com:

“A new “renegotiation and extension” provision allows an existing contract to be renegotiated so the player is paid a smaller amount over a longer period, but the player’s salary cannot decrease by more than 40 percent. Renegotiations previously could only increase a player’s salary.”

Now most people don’t expect a player to take a reduction in salary, unless it’s a DFish, Mike Bibby kind of situation, but you can restructure contracts to make them more cap friendly.

Unless they axed that provision somewhere along the line – don’t have time to follow the rabbit trail tonite.

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

March 23rd, 2012
11:53 pm

Melo is STILL unhappy?

maybe it’s because Lin is more valuable than he is

Section 212

March 23rd, 2012
11:54 pm

For you Hawks critics out there, the Hawks have sustained the most injuries and played the most road games in the league…and they are in the middle of playing something like 10 games in 14 nights, plus this was the first time in almost 2 months they have played 2 consecutive games at home. I’ll take 8 games over .500.

Section 212

March 23rd, 2012
11:59 pm

Nice night for my fantasy team between Smoove and Durant,

doc

March 24th, 2012
12:03 am

yeah josh is playing like he did in 07-08 as a 22 yo when he avg 17 and 9 and had some huge games with a high point of 38. the guy should have never been overlooked for deng.

kerpal

March 24th, 2012
12:03 am

keep josh. he is playing really well. also, marvin williams played decently but he needs to take more advantage every time he gets the ball.

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

March 24th, 2012
12:03 am

“For you Hawks critics out there, the Hawks have sustained the most injuries and played the most road games in the league…and they are in the middle of playing something like 10 games in 14 nights, plus this was the first time in almost 2 months they have played 2 consecutive games at home. I’ll take 8 games over .500″

True but we could be so much better. Have given games away…Which team are you?

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

March 24th, 2012
12:05 am

Damn courtsideshawty is owning the league, but I plan to use all my remaining roster moves in the Playoffs

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

March 24th, 2012
12:07 am

if Adelman or Popp were our coach, Smoove would never take a jumpshot, and he would be an MVP Candidate

SteveW

March 24th, 2012
12:26 am

Keith Benson just called up by GSW – he’s been doing really well after a slow DLeague start, and a 17 pt, 11 rb, 3 blck game against Brian Butch (pretty good DLeague C) got him the call up.

I was sure hoping he would be our 3rd C behind ZaZa and maybe a draft pick in 2012/13, with Al either being traded or going down to the 4.

I think Benson has some good upside.