Atlanta Hawks: Video: Hawks fall to Celtics

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Do we ever need Green, Williams, and Pargo back. And Al. He’s been in rehab 3 weeks now. Wonder how he’s doing?

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it’s the little things Teague needs to improve on. Controlling the offense every moment he’s on the court and putting his teammates in good position to take shots. (regardless of the outcome) damn they should have won that game.

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Not Hawks-related, but this article is great. More NCAA hypocrisy and bullying.

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FTPB

“Also, I asked him about using advanced stats in decision making (Sloan Conference stuff). Rick Sund said he is 50-50 on it. He said that stuff has been around for a long time now (since the early/mid 90’s), but seems to just now being getting media attention. He said that when he first arrived in Seattle, the Sonics had just traded two first round picks for an old age center, just because the advanced stats said they should. The center rarely played and was a total bust. Rick Sund pointed out that sometimes, when looking at advanced stats, you have to consider how the player fits on the team they are playing for. That center probably fit his role on his previous team much better than with the Sonics.”

There is no player who fits that exact description. The closest player to that description is Vitaly Potapenko, who averaged 4.6 points per game with Boston the year before he was traded to Seattle. If that’s Sund’s argument for not using advanced stats, he is a moron.

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the worst thing about Teague’s shot is that he should have held on to the ball and jumped onto Pierce for the FTs or passed again.

Hinrich was open on the left side of the court and JJ was next to him. So if he had faked, let Pierce fly, he would have had 3 options:

1. Jump against Pierce.
2. Pass the rock to Hinrich.
3. Take the shot after Pierce had landed.

Teague shot the 3 as if he only had 1 second to shoot but there were still 5 seconds to play.

He’s young and still wet behind his ears…

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Najeh, that’s funny.

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doc, the case study in Denver will be fun to follow. George Karl trying to turn Javale McGee from a tall athlete into a basketball player. He also suffers from asthma, which I imagine isn’t helped by the Denver altitude. All-in-all, a fairly risky trade but one that could pay off if McGee becomes a defensive anchor in the mode of Tyson Chandler. I suspect there will be some significant “bumps in the road” as mcGee gets used to working under a no nonsense head coach like George Karl.

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AJ,

I think McGee’s asthma was more an excuse to get him on anabolic steroids and get him to put a bit more muscle and weight…

… just like the attention deficit disorder that many baseball players seem to have been diagnosed to suffer from is the perfect excuse to get them amphetamines…

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vava74,

Per High-sider

Two seasons ago, the Hawks went 4-0 against the Celtics and Jamal [Crawford] averaged 20+ppg against the Celtics in that ‘09-’10 regular season.

Per me,

Last year he averaged 15 ppg against them in 2 games played. Watching the game yeaterday, it is pretty obvious that we could not score the ball. I guess having another guy who can score when the defense picks up, and can take his man off the dribble is not needed. My bad for being so stupid.

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“Jamal is shooting in the .200 in the clutch this year. Check 82games.”

With all your stats and numbers, if you asked me who I would want to shoot that 3 to tie that game up last night between Joe, Josh, Teague, Hinrich, Marvin or Jamal, guess who I’d pick?

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Starting tomorrow, the Hawks will be playing 8 games in 11 days. A couple of road games thrown in just for fun.

That is just a brutal schedule.

Miami has a tough travel schedule the rest of the way also. One bad thing about being at the bottom, as they call Miami, is the travel. You’ve got to fly a long way for almost every game except Orlando. And travel does take a toll on you.

Those Atlantic teams, Philly, Ny, DC etc. have short travel schedules , especially when there playing each other.

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astro, last night was fifty-fifty, i thought some people had read the 19th as the 17th it was so green. only problem is the home team gave them a chance to cheer. it was pretty quiet until the run and at a critical time out pierce was up standing waving them on down in front of me as a cheerleader would do.

players got to realize they control the crowd not the other way around. if they are clanking and not showing energy fans get pretty complacent too. after all we are paying and they are getting the bucks to “entertain”. by the end of the game both sides were cheering pretty loudly and celt fans were relieved to see the air ball.

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Willie > Jamal

Pargo > Jamal

Willie + Pargo >>>> Jamal

Hell . . we could’ve used Salim Stoudamire last night, if all we needed was a guy who could get his shot off.

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From hoopshype; Free agent Ronny Turiaf to decide new team by Wed., agent Mark Bartelstein told ESPN. Celtics & Heat lead pack of teams interested.

Also, The Miami Heat and Oklahoma City Thunder have emerged as the early leaders in the race to sign veteran guard Derek Fisher after he clears waivers Wednesday, according to sources close to the situation.

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Section 303,

There have been numerous moments like that in the last couple of years. Chicago game last year was full of Chicago fans, Knicks games are always like that, Lakers games, Boston games during the regular season when they won the championship were full of Boston fans. Not so sure why yesterday was such a downsr for you. Atlanta ownership deserves it. I was a season ticket holder for 5 years, and would not be caught dead in Phillips Arena this year unless someone gives me a ticket. I refuse, as well as a lot of people I know with a lot of disposable income, to spend my money on the same product that they keep trottong out there. I won’t pay to see the same movie twice, so why would I pay to see the same lame kiss cam, hear an organist play rap songs, watch some gymnast dunk, and listen to Ryan Cameron screaming all game, when I already know the outcome?

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“Plus, the past two seasons the Hawks bench has been unproductive. Not the case this year. We have T-Mac, Pargo, Ivan, Vlad, Stackhouse…they’ve proven to be a productive bench (notice I left off Hinrich. Hinrich sucks.). Would not have all those guys had the Hawks killed themselves to re-sign Jamal. Team is better for letting him go.”

They did not have to kill themselves. They had a number of options. If the team loses in the first round of the playoffs, are they a better team?

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Wouldn’t it be nice if the Hawks were like other NBA teams, always looking for ways to improve? What has Sund been doing?

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Rob

March 19th, 2012
11:31 pm

“36 year-old Garnett man-handled Josh Smith.”

DONE.

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northcyde

March 19th, 2012
11:39 pm

People better understand that Garnett and others like him are the type of PFs that Josh is going to be going up against in the playoffs. Bad matchup or not, he must try to play in the paint. The 0 FT attempts is unacceptable in a game like this, especially when he’s ice cold. Go hard to the hole and make them call a foul either way.

Bottom line is that Josh needs to quit letting Garnett punk him

Have we seen thisB4?

Playoffs?

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ALT is known for having fans of the opposing teams taking over in the arena, but its not just ATL. Boston, LA etc have fans all over the country. One reason being…fans like winners.

But you know what? If the Hawks want to shut up the opposing fans, then give the hometown fans a reason to cheer. Josh going 5-20 is not going to get the fans excited, scoring 51 points through 3 quarters is not going to get the fans excited. Letting Boston go on a 13-0 run in the 4th is not going to get fans excited.

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rod i understand what u are saying about crawford. hawks didint do it for fiancial reasons. le me ask u assuming horford was healthy or was playing is this years hawks team overall better than last years team with jamal?

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O’Brien, there is no defense for the Atlanta fans after last night. We live in a sh#t sports town. I won’t ever defend the fans in this city again. Betting most of the a$$holes cheering for the Celtics, wearing their Rondo jerseys, have nothing to do with Boston. They’re the same d-bags that show up in LeBron jerseys when the Heat are in town. Starting to think I live in the douche capitol of the world. Seems to be the case anytime the Celtics, Knicks, Lakers, Bulls come through Philips

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Rondo would have found ISO for that last 3 pt. attempt, betcha!

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O’Brien, I understand those teams bring fans everywhere. I been to a lot of different arenas. You’re right, big market teams have fans everywhere. I have never seen anything like last night, though. That was just as low as it gets. A stoppage in play and Paul Pierce leading the cheers (and the cheers were loud, too). Only in Atlanta. Home of the worst sports fans in the history of the world.

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northcyde, that is not hard to believe. Last year’s team did not even bother to try in about 20 games last year. The final 5 games they just kind of showed up, but not to play hard. No surprise that this group’s winning percentage will probably be better. Last year’s team was not exactly an inspirational one.

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And Joe shouldn’t care. No player should care, they should play hard because of their own personal values and because that is why they are paid. Don’t want varying effort based on Hawks fan attendance.

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SMH @ Golden St fans booing the owner like that during the Chris Mullin jersey retirement ceremony. That was bad. But those fans were pizzed that they traded Monte Ellis for Andrew Bogut. The trade isn’t bad. It’s just that as soon as Stephen Curry proved that he could ball at a high level, they should’ve traded Monte for a big or an upgrade at the 2 guard.

The Ellis – Curry backcourt, while exciting, was not going to produce wins. So G-State did what they had to do in trading him. They just held onto him too long in my opinion.

Funny though . . the Hawks may be faced with that same dilemma when it comes to Horford and Smith.

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northclyde that was bad with golden state and it was for chris mullin night. didnt hawks if i remember do the same to stan kasten during niques night to retire his jersey and nique had to tell the fans to not boo?

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Some of the criticism of Teague should be directed at the coach, LD:

Instead of just bringing the ball up court and looking for JJ or Josh off long Boston misses, Teague should’ve been pushing the ball and creating easy scoring opportunities. This slow tempo played to Boston favor.

Instead of always looking for JJ or Josh to initiate the offense, Teague should dictate the offense “sometime” by breaking down the defense in the paint to create scoring options for him or others.

LD seems to be happy with Teague timid non-aggressive lethargic game since this pattern has continued as of late. During this season, Teague has been losing his “inner-dog” when the basketball stage gets bigger. The one (and only) aggressive play he made in the Boston game was the dunk against Allen. That abnormally was the exception and not the rule. Most of the Hawks losses come when he plays slow-poke “Bibby style” basketball.

JJ noted at the beginning of this season that Teague needs to be more aggressive and stop deferring all the time. He said the Hawks will only go as far as Jeff Teague takes them. In other words, Teague most become the head of the snake (and not the tail) for the Hawks to really go anywhere.

Since Teague is still so “green”, it is LD job to develop his mindset of how he needs to play. He needs to play “angry” with a chip on his shoulder to be affective and stride to be the best; as an example, think like Russell Westbrook and play like Tony Parker. We saw some of that in the playoff against Chicago last season. Instead he is developing the mindset of his “soft” coach as detected in his comment after he blow the critical 3-pointer:

Teague: “I overshot it. I thought I was farther than I was. It happens.

He’s got a clean look with both eyes (uncontested) at the basket but “he thought he was farther”. So what he saw wasn’t really what he thought, his eyes out-of-sync with mind. I’m curious to know, where was his mind in the heat of that moment? That lame “soft” excuse unchallenged by himself is why (given the same circumstance), he will probably miss again.

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303, i would say jj loves the generosity of the basg more than the fans or his teammates but whatever, he is here and the guy is still top notch if not top tier clutch at what he does. wish he had had the op last night for the shot but it is what it is. wish he had made a few more earlier in the game when thy could have put them away but continued to miss makable shots.

still no reason to have collins on there and not ivan, no reason at all as he can mov and he does draw fouls and that in itself means the offense has to make sure they know where he is. he also doesnt back down to anyone or anything.

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We should pick up JJ hickson off waivers Sacramento just waived him

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Ntrigue -Warriors dont even have a shot at the playoffs and they are making moves to get better.Why cant we?? its not the players we should be blaming its the Owners

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The Hawks have 15 players with guaranteed contracts. There is NO room for Hickson or any other player.

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can you say retire collins or give him his leave and sign another one aj? to better your team?

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im tired of the bandwagon fans.. the hawks had a off night down 2 starters and 3 important bench players.. and they are still competing and playing decent…im tired of hearing all the bs from you bloggers… be satisfied with us being 26-20 minus 5 of our players….what other team is severley shortstaffed like us

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It must be re-stated:

Our Hawks [the players] are weak mentally.
Did I say dumb ?
-No-
Did I question their intelligence ?
-No-
What I am saying is:
* They are immature – as basketball players – amazing due to their age.
This is no longer a ‘`young team`’.

* They are weak minded, they give up, quit, easily …
watch their body language.
* Obviously they suffer from basketball stupidity or low B-ball IQ;
as they refuse to change or correct their bad habits even though
they know their faults – as they correctly state them to MC -
time after time.
* They play to the level of the competition
* They do not display poise under pressure:
r e; Josh`s ill advised “3″ last nite, Teague`s misguided “3″,
Joe`s turnovers;
constantly trying to dribble in, around, or through, double teams,
Pargo dropping the ball out of bounds v Denver,
Zaza`s air ball lay-up v Denver, shall I go on ?

-and-

I contend;
they don`t like one another.

This team does not compete.

-please-

Get us a Team full of Compeeters !

I do not care if Ivan is this or that or does not know whichamawhatama !

Ivan Compeetes ! … Dadgummit !

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doc, the ASG would have to either sell another draft pick or the big scoreboard in the arena to force a to sign Hickson even if a roster slot were available.

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yeah maybe they could tell people by their cracker jack scouting team reports that the 2014 draft will be deep and sell off another second rounder to get hickson now.

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be satisfied? Hahahahahah

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1 im tired of the bandwagon fans.. the hawks had a off night down 2 starters and 3 important bench players.. and they are still competing and playing decent…im tired of hearing all the bs from you bloggers… be satisfied with us being 26-20 minus 5 of our players….what other team is severley shortstaffed like us

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Mat hips is an iPhone way of saying matchups I guess. Autocorrect can be brutal sometimes

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That was a tough loss, gotta keep fighting

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SteveW,

The Knicks should scare you, they are a better team than us. It might not show up in the record, but we would probably get swept by the Knicks in a 7 game series. We have no advantages against them, except Joe, and he is easy to shut down. If Woodson could make the Hawks a good team, he might be able to work wonders with the Knicks. Records this year mean nothing. The goal should be to get to the playoffs as healthy as possible.

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Astro Joe

March 20th, 2012
2:13 pm

BTW, I think it is CRAZY that a PG has to “get the ball from his teammate”. I envision two players wearing the same uniform acting like 6 YOs fighting over a ball on the playground. I don’t know what is worse, the notion that the head coach can’t demand that teammates pass the ball to Teague or that teammate(s) refuse to give Teague the ball in the first place.

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Post of the thread so far.

Teague isn’t a natural PG, so he lacks that “leadership gene” that most of your real good PGs have. He’s a scoring PG, more of in the mold of Russell Westbrook, but without Westbrook’s “inner dog”.

It’s just not in Teague ( as of right now ) to take the lead and direct the offense. Josh is a dominant personality on the team, and everything flows through either him or JJ. So despite JJ even telling Teague to be more aggressive, it doesn’t translate all the time.

When Teague has an Avery Johnson moment, and yells at Josh to either give him the ball off of a defensive rebound, or to tell Josh or JJ to get in the post, that’s when we’ll know that he’s ready to lead.

Overall though, can’t complain too much about Teague’s performance this year. 13 ppg – 5 asst – 1.7 stls – 46% FG – 38% 3FG – 71% FT ( which is too low for him ).

Josh needs to stop letting KG punk him . . and Teague needs to stop letting Josh punk him.

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brigadierjerry,

I think they have the best chance against the Magic.

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watching teague last night with that missed shot i was thinking if he is comparable or better than the following guards on other teams such as

jose calderon, devin harris,jrue holiday who is having a bad year, ty lawson jameer nelson,brandon jennings,jeremy lin,stephen curry,mike conley. is there anyone on this list u would rather have or someone of that second tier point guard then teague?

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brigadierjerry,

“rod i understand what u are saying about crawford. hawks didint do it for fiancial reasons. le me ask u assuming horford was healthy or was playing is this years hawks team overall better than last years team with jamal?”

My personal opinion is that this years team is built to be a better regular season team. We are not built for the playoffs. We are deeper this year, but that will mean nothing in the playoffs. If I know Drew the way I think I know Drew, you won’t mention Ivan Johnson once in the playoffs. Drew won’t play him. Would not be surprised if you don’t hear Pargo, or Willie Greens name much at all either. He will shorten his ratations, defer to Marvin over some of those other players in the playoffs. We will basically be the same team as last year in the playoffs minus Horford, and Jamal. I thinks Zaza actually will match Horfords production in the playoffs, (10 and 10), but no one will be able to be that consistent threat opposite Joe, that Jamal was. We probably lose in round one this year, unless we draw Orlando. That’s the only team we don’t lose to in a seven game series, and maybe Indiana. Anyone else, we are done.

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I think Teague follows a long history of Hawks players who are out of position. And like most of them, he is doing the best he can. His reaction to the airball was telling (IMO), he kind of laughed it off. No, not as if he didn’t care or found something funny about the miss, more like he tried to aovid the contentiousness of the moment. He did not want a confrontation with his own emotions. I’d be shocked if he ever “went off” on a teammate, I think he is probably a very mild-mannered, respectful young man off the court who isn’t interested in too much drama. This kid isn’t going to “rock the boat”. I think the best chance to get the “dog” out of him is to put him in the role of a scorer and defender… but don’t ask him to spend too much time as a floor leader. That’s not in his DNA (as northcyde says). Let that kid be a better all around version of Lou Williams.

But, again, there are many Hawks who have played out of position over the past few years… Teague just has to continue to wait for his change to come.

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Anyone who actually thinks that we have a chance of beating the Knicks in a 7 game series is smoking some good weed. We are overmatched at every position except Joe. Shumpert, and Fields will easily slow him down. No with Mike Woodson who runs more Iso, Melo, and Amare’s games will pick up, and JR Smith is Jamal Crawford 2.0. Perfect team for him to inherit, and it would not surprise me to see them in the ECF.

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“fair point but that sounds more of a coaching thing than personnell. would u feel the same way if hawks had a different coach about the success of this years team?”

A solid coach would help this team tremendously. Josh would not be shooting a ton of jumpers, and bringing the ball up the floor like a guard, Joe would be geting called out when he starts sleep walking, TMac would get much more playing time, we would actually run some sets, Pargo would get much more time than Kirk, Marvin would not ever be starting, Ivan would be getting consistent minutes….. LD has done a decent job, but he has cost us at least 3-5 games this year on coaching alone.

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philly- 30%
orlando- 70%
boston- 35%
knicks- 20%
heat- 0%
bulls – 15%
mil- No possible way we play them

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“Let that kid be a better all around version of Lou Williams. ”

Lou Willams = Jamal Crawford. Same guy.

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another thing about the hawks that is somewhat depressing is the lack of young propects on thr team for thr futur. other than teague and maybe ivan johnson if hawks can afford him,where is the futuree?jj is past prime, horford and smith who knows. smith could be gone after next season.

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I’ll take Lou off the bench all day going into the playoffs…

BTW, The Knicks are very dangerous..

The Hawks want no part of em…For sure….

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philly- 30%
orlando- 55%
boston- 20%
knicks- 10%
heat- 0%
bulls – 10%

Mil=NA

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slimj bursting your karmic bubble, before you buy read this:

http://autos.aol.com/article/consumer-reports-finds-trove-of-unhappy-karma-owners/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1

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OKC- 5%
Spurs-5%
Lakers-5%
Clippers-20%
Memphis-25%
Dallas-2%
Denver-40%
Houston-55%

LOL. while it is funny, can’t say I disagree. Some of these guys don’t understand the difference between a reguale season game, and a playoff series. Not only are our players overmatched, our coach is overmatched against all the other coaches except for Van Gundy.

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The Knicks are figthing for their lives in the 8th spot. Not really worried about them right now. Their losing streak will come. If the Hawks take care of business over next 5 (favorable) games then they should be in prime position to challenge the Magic for the 3rd playoff spot.

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Immaturity reigneth… Jeff taunting Ray (great idea), & Smoove still thinkin long jumpers are in his reportoire… Grow up guys, & use your ’strenghts’, esp. in the pinch !

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Teague is still young but so is his position in the NBA. In the grand scheme of things, he may be mediocre at point. Not to say Jeff is below avg. just that the position has step up the level of talent. You gotta remember Devin Harris was considered on of the best a few years back now he would make my top 30 rankings. Just thinking about a guy like Dragic that is balling stashed behind Lowry.

Kemba and Teagues numbers are eerily similar. I consider Kemba like most a combo guard at best. I’ma do a breakdown of the top 30 point guards and see where and would rank Teague.

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LOL at the cereal comp. Never thought the two could be compared.

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LOL at the cereal comp. Are Grape Nuts good?

Corn Flakes lol
Give me some Captain Krunch.

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Jason got “Trix” because he is a one-trix pony (see Dwight).
Marvin got “Kix” because he can go Kix-Rocks.
TMac got Frosted Flakes for his gray hair and flaky comments to the media. Joe got “Captain Krunch” because his iso-joe in the 4th (so, why go away from him in the 4th?) Do you really want Teague and Zaza taking that shot?

Teague got “Rice Krispies” because, when he is On – he is Popping! Josh got “Grape Nuts” because, when he goes Ape – he drives us nuts. Horford got “Corn Flakes” because, he plays bland. Zaza got “Fruit Loops” because he is a goon and, will loop you. Willie Green got “Kashi” (go lean) because he hurt, so he leaning on furniture right now.

Hey we got our butts whipped last night, plain and simple. Ye we got injuries, so what! That is no excuse to make bad plays. Everybody got injuries. Shot selection and making the right pass, and, letting your PG do his job has nothing to do with injuries. Last night was a very winnable game.

Leave Teague alone! Let him holla if he wants to! That was not taunting Ray, that was emotional exuberance and feeling good about yourself and your abiltiy! Bad call refs!!!

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dmb, you know i imagine teague was surprised to see allen still standing there at the end of his look at me face not in your face ray. he was just celebrating a good play and was being enthusiastic. havent we seen it over and over again without the call? again, say if bosh diid that over josh and did the same it wouldnt be news at all, nor a tech. this was after ray ray chewed an official out donw the sideline for a minute or so during the game.

MC what was josh jawing at

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Hey doc Karma is a _______! LMAO

Words of wisdom, never buy the 1st model year.. Let the manufacturer work out the bugs…

That’s the reason I stopped driving Fords and Dodges..

Fisker has some homework to do..I hope they can get it done..What a stunning work of art on 4 wheels?

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Man, that Irving dude is special..I’d take him over JT in a NEWYORK minute!

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This link is for you drmaryb:

If we had one of these dudes in the middle, the Hawks would go undefeated! lol….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w0bnoZ__Fs&feature=related

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Here’s one I didn’t know of:

Kaboom! – General Mills (1969 – present: limited distribution). I think Sautee might eat these. LOL

Here’s another one for Marvin’s game:
Krumbles – Kellog’s (1913 – 1973 [approx])

Grape Nuts – Post Cereals
Freakies – Raslton (1972 – 1976)

Here’s the link to view and pick your favorite player’s game described on a cereal box:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_breakfast_cereals

Have some fun.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbQ8Jcv_QX0

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Ha Ha! Here’s another one for Joe Johnson:

G.I. Joe Action Stars – Ralston (1985)

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“And, I don’t buy the arguement that it’s the ASG. We live in a sh#t sports town. Any debate about that (and I have defended Atlanta fans many times) ended with the Boston Garden South fiasco last night.”

You must not have watched the regular season Heat-Celtics or Suns-Celtics games last year when the arena was half full of Boston fans chanting “Let’s Go Celtics” there too. The Celtics and Lakers have a ton of bandwagon fans, and all warm weather cities have a) a lot of transplants and b) a lot of bandwagoners. There’s nothing special about Atlanta in that regard, except that Atlanta has had a longer run of pro sports futility than most other warm weather cities.

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Doc..

i saw the same thing.. i think it was concerning something on the defensive end. during the period Jason was in the game. Josh barked to the bench twice.. 1st time Hawks called a 20.. second time, LD barked back..

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Glad to see Fisher is going to OKC instead of the Heat. I guess he wants a chance to stick it to the Lakers…LOL

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“hawks fans if u would give a percentage of hawks chances against the following east teams in the playoffs what percentage would u give?”

philly – 40%
orlando – 85%
boston – 65%
knicks – 30%
heat – 1%
bulls – 20%
mil – 90%

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“jose calderon, devin harris,jrue holiday who is having a bad year, ty lawson jameer nelson,brandon jennings,jeremy lin,stephen curry,mike conley. is there anyone on this list u would rather have or someone of that second tier point guard then teague?”

I’d definitely rather have Lawson. Depending on the system, I might rather have Lin. The others are either no better than Teague now, no better than Teague will probably be in a couple of years (Conley), or too injury prone (Curry).

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Probability!

“hawks fans if u would give a percentage of hawks chances against the following east teams in the playoffs what percentage would u give?”

philly – 53%
orlando – 78%
boston – 65%
knicks – 44%
heat – 13%
bulls – 37%
mil – 95%

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The cranes are fixed..No wheels…

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Knicks up 10 already! Blowout coming?????????????? Yep…

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“hawks fans if u would give a percentage of hawks chances against the following east teams in the playoffs what percentage would u give?”

philly – Big Lineups
orlando – Big Lineups
boston – Big Lineups
knicks – Big Lineups
heat – Big Lineups
bulls – Big Lineups
mil – Big Lineups
IND – Big Lineups

Josh at the 3 + Ivan + Pachulia. Everyone bum rush the rim glass for rebounds.

Josh is too small for KG. Hinrich was a nonfactor.

LD starts 3 guards because he thinks their collective IQ will compensate for his lack of strategy.
Hawks need to stop getting pushed and punked and do the punking for a change.

Ivan, Josh, Pachulia + Teague & JJ

Hinrich can kick rocks.

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Why did Memphis signed Gilbert Arenas? Zach, Tony Allen and Gibert, there will not be a dull moment in that locker room.

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PGS!

Or, because no one else can suit up, (Drew’s reason for 3G line up).

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“Can y’all think of something new to say?”

You forgot Marvin stinks.

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Melvin, Hickson is from MArietta, Wheeler HS specifically. I think Shareef went to Wheeler also. Never had much love for OKC, but if they play Fisher and Westbrook together, watch out.

Sautee, I was thinking more about Teague’s defense, passing abilities and comparable quickness. But you’re right, Lou is a better shooter.

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hmm.. so i guess the refs have no issue w/ Wade yelling and beating his chest after a dunk and 1.

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Watching the Heat/Suns game. Gotta like Alvin Gentry. His team got some bad calls and no calls as the Heat goes on a 15-0 run to take a 5pt lead. However, Gentry was called for a tech as Wade was shooting an And-1 free throw. Then Gentry calls timeout after the free throws just to chew the refs out some more. LD and Woody would have just stood there with their arms folded… WAF (with arms folded)

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Knicks undress Raptors, 106-87. The Knicks is/are 4-0 with Woody as head coach. All four wins have been by double-digit margins.

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chandler is key his being out cosy dantoni the job and why they lost aganst some difficult teams in that run.

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the key to woody’s success is the fenter he didnt have here in chandler.

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Justice for Trayvon Martin!!!

Atlanta does not have the worst sports fans. Atlanta just has too many people from other cities that love living here. If you love your team and your city so much why don’t you stay yo azz at home? Don’t bring that crap to Atlanta.

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High-sider

March 20th, 2012
9:56 pm

One Trick Ponies = northcyde

One Trick Ponies, you are the “TRICK”, if you know what I mean.

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SMH. You’re thinking about me way too much dude. I have never used a different username on this site. Matter of fact, this is the same username I use on Hawksquawk AND ESPN. No troll in me playa.

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“The others are either no better than Teague now, no better than Teague will probably be in a couple of years (Conley), or too injury prone (Curry).”

Fans of Dragic, Conley, Walker, Knight, etc. could say the exact thing about Teague. Conley is just as young as Teague (8 month difference) and his assist rates have gone up for 4 straight years now. If Atlanta decided to trade teague for conley I personally would not lose any sleep. This is coming from a huge Teague fan, shouting him out 6 months before the draft when he was then considered a top 10 pick before his team imploded.

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For those who say Jeff Schultz never has anything good to say about the Hawks;

http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2012/03/20/hawks-showing-us-something-new-they-can-take-a-punch/

From Schultz column;

“Two or three years ago, we would’ve just quit — we would’ve folded,” general manager Rick Sund said Tuesday. “This year we seem to have more resilience. Frankly, before the game [Monday] night, it was amazing to me that we were seven games over .500.”.

Does anyone still wonder if Rick and LD will be back next year?

As for the Hawks schedule, this is from MC;

The Hawks have played the most road games (26) of the eight teams in playoff position. And after Monday’s games they had played the fourth-toughest schedule in the East, according to data compiled by ESPN’s John Hollinger..

That may be part of the reason for optimism. However, Hawks have to beat up on the bad teams and hope the other playoff teams in front of them start losing.

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#ScrewGeorgeZimmerman

The sociopathic murderer of Trayvon Martin.

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Horford spent this past summer playing for the DR national team, along with Francisco Garcia of the Kings and Villanueva of the Pistons. I think he took time off after those tourney games and lost some of his conditioning when he entered the Hawks camp.

OB, the Knicks haven’t won a playoff series in forever. Woody may need to deliver that for them in order to get the gig permanently. And that will require a 1st round upset, as his team won’t likely be higher than a 7 seed.

I agree with Section 303, Atlanta does have terrible sports fans. Obviously, folk who blog about sports are excluded as they are clearly passionate about their teams. I think the reason is because pro sports are relatively new to this town. Think about it, if you are 40-50 then at best you are a first generation fan of Atlanta pro sports, because teams didn’t come here until the 60s. Compare that to the Yankees, Celtics or the Bears in Chicago. If you are 40-50 in those towns, there have been 3-4 generations of fans for those teams. I personally think there is a valid reason for the lack of sports passion… but I don’t deny that Atlanta sports fandom (in general) is lacking. I lived close to 10 years in the NYC area, the year the Rangers won the Stanley Cup with Messier’s guarantee, I had NEVER seen anything like that in my life (and still haven’t). You could FEEL the energy walking down the streets for the Rangers in the mdiile of the day. Closest thing to that I’ve felt here was Braves 1991-92.

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aj, the knicks are a selective 4 games from being a top four seed. all they have to do is pass philly and keep melo happy who has admitted he sabotaged his former coach and his present team by not giving full effort.

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buddy we play “price is right” with basg and these guys are winners at that game. they will be back based on that main criteria alone.

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Buddy,

If the Hawks do not have homecourt advantage in the first round, and lose (assuming they dont get swept), ASG can blame it on injuries, which would lead to them not having a higher seed, and not putting up a better fight.

And LD is one of the lowest paid coaches in the league, so I think they pick up his 3rd year option, and give Rick one more year.

The problem is they dont have much room to make moves in terms of player personnel. Their only 2 trade assets are Josh, and Al.

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Well, we’re about to begin a stretch of 8 games in 11 days, and 7 in 9 days starting Friday. All part of a brutal 10 games in a 14 day stretch to close out March.

One of those games I would rest Teague, JJ, Josh, and Zaza. They’ve been logging a ton of minutes. Save them for the playoffs.

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Steve, I think the Heat & Bulls are so far ahead of the rest of the conference, that seeding doesn’t too much matter, as long as you are 6 or above (to avoid a 1st round defeat). After that, I don’t expect any team to go further than 6 games against those two teams.

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Also, a good read I found: http://www.slamonline.com/online/the-magazine/features/2012/03/injury-time/

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SteveW, I think you’re asking a lot with the 3 seed prediction. The Hawks should (if injuries do not continue to ruin everything) move up, though. They have some winnable games on the horizon and a few days off ahead as well. They can finish the season strong.

Not as concerned with others about Boston and NY. I would love to get Boston in the playoffs. I hate that f’ing team and they are not good. NY has won a few in a row, but other teams have won 4 games in a row this year, too. Just don’t get all the hype. NY Knicks are just a giant hype machine. They’ll go back to losing games soon.

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doc,

How about them Lady Jackets? Hopefully the men will show some improvement next year.

dmb,

The Hawks beat Orlando last year in the first round, and Orlando had home court. I think the Hawks would prefer to play Orlando or Indiana in the first round (I know I would). Philly, Boston, Knicks are winnable, but I dont think the Hawks can beat those teams in a best of 7.

And nobody wants Chicago or Miami in the first round. I’m hoping Knicks, Boston, Bulls and Heat get matched up in the first round.

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Derrick & barry … please read … *’`Even so`’* … `tis for all …

I do not hate.
I am not a hater of any of God`s children.
Subsequently and with the most circumspect discretion;
philosophically I`m opposed to the Death Penalty.

Having said;
I would not have mercy for George Zimmerman;
nor would I show mercy or compassion for this human being
to which I refuse to call a man.

May God have mercy on his soul.

Trayvon is at peace;
my prayers are with the family and their unbelievable grief at this time.

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Section 303

I`m Real High on your guy *’`Draymond Green`’* !

If he were to end up a Hawk; we would be the better for it.
He may be the ‘`smartest basketball player`’ in the up-coming draft.

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In other NFL news, Tim Tebow has been traded to the Jets!!!

Crazy it will be up there!

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F*CK ESPN! I AM NO LONGER WATCHING SPORTCENTER!!!

SCREW LINSANITY AND TEBOW!

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Home Court!

OB, oh ok … I forgot the Magic already had home cpurt and yet they lost to the Horford Led Hawks, with Twin as the X-Factor.

Well, in that case – (and I have prevent defenses in football – see Van Gorder – YUCKIE!) Perhaps, OB, we should straddle where we are and manipulate a #6 seed, (I know throwing games is whack!) but, anything to avoid those teams you mentioned until they beat each other up dood first. Meanwhile, try to get healthy and re-gell as two units:
starters and bench.

If we limp into the play offs: it’s like Teddy Perndergrass said, “Turn Off The Lights! Turn ‘Em Off!!! and, light a candle.” LMBO!

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Suck for Luck!

Doesn’t really work in Basketball, because of the ping-pong balls. LOL, I remember Boston tried that to get Tim Duncan and got jobbed. Npo gimmies where the commish is involved – chief gangsta!

Right – Slimjr?

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Grandad, I love Draymond. He will be missed next season. And, I agree. He would be able to help the Hawks.

Prior to this season, I did not think Green would be much of a pro. I’ve changed my mind. He has become a good shooter and has improved his ball handling. He’s always been a good passer, rebounder and teammate. I think he sticks in the NBA.

prison mike, I like Royce White a lot, too. He is just one of those guys who does everything.

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Dont forget, there’s a possibility that the Hawks could finished 5th and still have the homecourt advantage over the 4th place team. In the 4-5 seeds matchup, home court advantage goes to the team with the best record.

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Turiaf to the Heat….

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Bad news: Heat to sign Turiaf. I know Turiaf isn’t much, but the Heat don’t need much, just another body to spell Anthony at the C 10-15 mpg.

Good signing for the Heat – I’ll root against them more now.

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Ryan Hollins will be release from the Cavs. Here’s another young big that the Hawks should persue. Get rid of Collins and Diamper then sign JJ Hickson and Ryan Hollins.

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I am with Melvin.

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Dawg,

Didnt they do both two drafts ago when they traded down to get Jordan Crawford and got the 1st pick in the 2nd round only to sell it for cash. And I dont remember who they drafted that year with their own 2nd rnd pick.

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Turn UP the Heat!

And, the rich just get’s richer. Meanwhile, back at the ranch … We get a can of cold pork & beans. Don’t blame the fans for lackluster love! We give what we get – NOTHING!

You can’t tell me there aren’t things Sund could be doing to fortify his front line troops. At least give them a fighting chance:

A Cheeseburger & Fries? Child please.

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Astro,

I dont know how I forgot about Pape

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” I lived close to 10 years in the NYC area, the year the Rangers won the Stanley Cup with Messier’s guarantee, I had NEVER seen anything like that in my life (and still haven’t). You could FEEL the energy walking down the streets for the Rangers in the mdiile of the day. Closest thing to that I’ve felt here was Braves 1991-92.”

So you’re telling me that when the local sports team wins championships, the city goes crazy for them? Shocking.

I went to a Braves-Mets game in Citi Field in 2009. Half my section was Braves fans, the stadium was mostly empty, and we all got up and did the chop and chant when Brian McCann hit a home run while the few Mets fans in attendance glared at us silently. Funny how those fantastic New York fans were nowhere to be found then.

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Are the Heat really trying to win another Championship in 6 years?

How bout them birds??? Hawks Fans………….

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Woody by 15 tonight!

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“Get rid of Collins and Diamper then sign JJ Hickson and Ryan Hollins.”

I wish they could do this, but I doubt that they would be willing to pay all four of those players since they are already over the tax line. Collins and Dampier are guaranteed for the rest of the season.

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Now the Jets dont want to pay Tebow that 5 millie to come play in NewYork…

Guess Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum did not read the small print in Tebow’s contract?.. Now the trade is in peril…..

Ho Hum………….

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drmaryb, Jr Smith has become a sniper off the bench for the Knicks! What a real surprise for Woody’s ballclub..

That dude has been nailing those three’s in their 4 game blowout winning streak.. They have outscored opponents by a total of 90 freaking points…

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The ideal outcome for the Hawks would be to draw Indiana in the first round and Chicago in the 2nd round while Orlando draws Philly in the first round and Miami in the 2nd round. Orlando matches up better with Miami than any other East team, and Atlanta matches up with Indiana better than Philly. If everything shakes out in the Hawks’ favor, they will beat Indiana and Chicago, Orlando will beat Philly and Miami, and the Hawks can battle the Magic for a chance to go to the NBA Finals. Not a likely scenario, but of all the unlikely scenarios that exist for the Hawks to break through the glass ceiling, that’s the most likely one.

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Najeh, you are probably the only person in the world who would even sugest that Atlanta fans are comparable to NYC fans in terms of passion for their team. but you’re a homer, so I guess that is to be expected.

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Section 303,

Amen. The Knicks losing streak is coming and the world will return to normal again…

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