Updated: Atlanta Hawks at Cavaliers: Game thread
Vivlamore reporting from Cleveland. Just arrived at Quicken Loans Arena.
We start with the Hawks ever-growing injury report. Add Jannero Pargo to the list of injured who will not play Sunday against the Cavs. Pargo has a stomach virus, according to coach Larry Drew. UPDATE: Pargo was sent to the Cleveland Clinic for further tests and will have surgery for appendicitis Sunday night. Will miss at least several games. The Hawks will also be without Willie Green (hamstring), Marvin Williams (hip flexor) and Vladimir Radmanovic (back) versus the Cavs. That’s the bad news.
The loss of Pargo leaves the Hawks thin at guard and Drew must continue to monitor the minutes he gives Joe Johnson, who missed six games with left knee tendinitis.
“I will keep an eye on it,” Drew said. “We have to continue to monitor Joe as far as his knee is concerned. He hasn’t said anything about it as far as experiencing any more discomfort. I will have to pay particular attention to that. We have a back-to-back and play again tomorrow. I can’t pile the minutes on him given the schedule.”
Johnson said following Friday’s win over the Wizards that is knee “feels 15 times better.”
Jason Collins, who missed the past 21 games with a sprained left elbow, will return today. That’s some good news, although Drew is not sure how much he will use the center.
Collins said he is looking forward to returning to the lineup but needed to let the injury fully heal. He was told by doctors that if he did further damage to the elbow surgery could have been required and that would mean a 6-9 month recovery time.
“It’s a ligament tear and you have to let scar tissue form in there and really let it heal,” Collins said.
The Hawks will see a familiar face with the Cavaliers as they have signed Donald Sloan. The guard who broke camp with the Hawks before being waived on Jan. 26. The Cavs signed Sloan on Friday for the remainder of the season.
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Buddy Grizzard
March 18th, 2012
12:53 pm
Jason Collins returning isn’t actually good news. Among players with at least 10 games played averaging at least 10 minutes per game, Collins has the second-worst PER in the league according to John Hollinger’s player statistics.
Buddy Grizzard
March 18th, 2012
12:58 pm
That tells you two things:
1. Jason Collins is one of the worst players in the NBA.
2. Larry Drew is using him too much.
KevinA
March 18th, 2012
1:01 pm
inspite of injuries the next 21 games look good. 15/6 is possible. a 4th seed is possible. life is good in Hawk land
Buddy Grizzard
March 18th, 2012
1:04 pm
Agree KevinA, I just hope we see a lot of Ivan Johnson. Putting Collins on the floor is like playing 4-on-5.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 18th, 2012
1:08 pm
Having season tickets should be a requirement to post here. Real fans only. GO HAWKS!
Buddy Grizzard
March 18th, 2012
1:16 pm
Troll checks in early?
Sautee
March 18th, 2012
1:20 pm
No doubt, Buddy.
kevkat
March 18th, 2012
1:32 pm
Just bring on the playoffs ..no excitement left in the regular season for the Hawks.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 18th, 2012
1:43 pm
That wasn’t me at 1:08. Can’t watch today’s game.
Melvin
March 18th, 2012
1:51 pm
Najeh,
Did you see my post to you on the last blog?
Mac-Town (#maconchevyrider)
March 18th, 2012
2:01 pm
our team isnt young any more….lets just hope we dont go into the playoffs with 2-4 guys out per game with injuries as it seems is the case every game lately.
doc
March 18th, 2012
2:02 pm
buddy twin had the worst per in the league in 06 with the wolves so he is aging well.
ntrigue
March 18th, 2012
2:05 pm
Lets go hawks! We gotta try and catch Orlando!
Big Lou
March 18th, 2012
2:05 pm
drmaryb, yeah I was lucky to check the programming schedule, looking at what time Walking Dead was on.
Fundamentals
March 18th, 2012
2:06 pm
Collins fit a situational need at one time for this team. ZaZa has improved his footwork & defense, plus he enjoys the spotlight of starting so he plays better.
Damp, Collins, Stack, McGrady are all wasted slots on our roster.
Teague/ Pargo
Kirk/Green
Joe/Marvin
Josh/Ivan
ZaZa/?
We actually have a great bench, but those 4 role player slots after could’ve been used to help this team. Maybe Stack and TMac had a niche as mentors, but I honestly think that the growth of Josh & ZaZa comes from them being in the spotlight instead. They are now the feature at their position, no more questioning that. Joe is getting his now, which bodes well for chemistry, but what happens when Al’s back in the mix? Can they mesh? They’ve proven not to in 4-6 years.
Melvin
March 18th, 2012
2:06 pm
Can we really say Collins coming back is good news? He’s only effective playing against several teams anyway.
Buddy Grizzard
March 18th, 2012
2:06 pm
Here’s an article titled “The NBA’s 10 Worst Players in the Last 10 Years:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AnjL2LUlmakTN8.WsRcrpjqaPKB4?slug=ycn-11075352
Jason Collins, ranked #1.
Ole Hawks Fan
March 18th, 2012
2:22 pm
How will this team play today is the question. Will they come out and bury the calves or will they let Cleveland hang around and take this game? There is no ball movement with iso JJ back . JJ=Carmelo Anthony. Both are killers to TEAM Basketball.
Big Lou
March 18th, 2012
2:41 pm
No Pargo? It’s a trap!!!!!
Kirk better step up.
Admirable Snackbar
March 18th, 2012
2:50 pm
some bench guys time to step up. how about a big game from Ivan and Tmac. Green better be ready cause we are thin today. I hope it’s not a TRAP!
Blast
March 18th, 2012
2:53 pm
Pargo out is big, but Hawks should have enough weapons to get the job done.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 18th, 2012
2:55 pm
“Did you see my post to you on the last blog?”
Yeah, just saw it. Kirk does help ball movement more than Marvin, but the only thing that worries me is whether this can work against bigger teams. They may not lose much on D going with this small lineup, but against bigger teams I think rebounding might start being a problem.
Sautee
March 18th, 2012
2:57 pm
Plus, with Pargo out, they probably need Joe’s minutes at guard.
Big Lou
March 18th, 2012
2:59 pm
Oh, oh, sometimes, I get a good feeling, yeah – I get a feeling that I never never never never had before, no no I get a good feeling, yeah!
Joe and Josh should have another good night. Wild Cards: Ivan and Kirk.
Snackbar, Green is out today.
It’s a TRAP!!!!
Najeh Davenpoop
March 18th, 2012
3:02 pm
“Here’s an article titled “The NBA’s 10 Worst Players in the Last 10 Years:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AnjL2LUlmakTN8.WsRcrpjqaPKB4?slug=ycn-11075352
Jason Collins, ranked #1.”
That article is a perfect example of why judging players solely based on PER is stupid. Notice Bruce Bowen, one of the league’s premier perimeter defenders over the last 10 years, ranked on that list. Just because you are not putting up fantasy stats doesn’t mean you are not contributing. PER thinks Marvin is a far better player than Bowen. Enough said.
I should also add that Yahoo Contributor Network articles are written by fans like me and you, like Bleacher Report, and have no more credibility than anything written on this blog
Big Lou
March 18th, 2012
3:02 pm
Why does it take injuries to start Kirk in the right spot? Bueler? Stupid LD. HIRE WOODY!
Melvin
March 18th, 2012
3:05 pm
Najeh,
We do give up length with Kirk in the lineup but I’m not sure we will give up that many more rebounds. I will take a few less rebounds for more efficiency on offense….
Big Lou
March 18th, 2012
3:15 pm
Joe Johnson has to do big today. Cavs look good.
City Of Atlanta Still Recovering From William Tecumseh Sherman
March 18th, 2012
3:16 pm
damn najeh lives on ajc blogs…smh
Najeh Davenpoop
March 18th, 2012
3:16 pm
One good thing about the small lineup is it forces LD to play Kirk and Marvin at SG and backup SF/PF where they belong, instead of at positions where they are not as effective, which also means Pargo plays backup PG and Teague gets more PG minutes. That ripple effect of players playing roles to which they are better suited probably has something to do with the improved efficiency too.
TMACfan
March 18th, 2012
3:19 pm
JJ is ballin
Big Lou
March 18th, 2012
3:20 pm
Kirk always getting jump balls. Lol
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 18th, 2012
3:22 pm
Biggie Lou, sweet cheeks … The Marathon is on now, ’bout to see Herschels family of walkers go down in a minute.
Josh and Teague for 3!!!!!!!!!!
Big Lou
March 18th, 2012
3:22 pm
Cavs defense is horrid.
Big Lou
March 18th, 2012
3:24 pm
drmaryb, honey thighs, T-minus 4 1/2 hours till awesomeness.
Buddy Grizzard
March 18th, 2012
3:26 pm
So Najeh do you contend that Collins has a Bowen-like defensive impact that his numbers can’t account for?
Big Lou
March 18th, 2012
3:26 pm
Zaza sucks.
MattP
March 18th, 2012
3:26 pm
Zaza is so tall but can’t dunk with an open lane…
tyger
March 18th, 2012
3:28 pm
Shortened rotation by happenstance?….
No Pargo, Vladi, Marvin or Green…
Certainly not planned but blessing in disguise…
20+ games to playoffs, time to shorten rotation…
Certainly, those guys could contribute but…
Teague – speedy defender, steals, loose balls, layups…
Hinrich – ballhandler, tough defender, good shooter…
JJohnson – spot up more at SF, use size, rebound…
JSmoove – continues his stellar play, team MVP…
ZaZa – logging too many minutes, but doing great job…
TMac – time to put up or shut up, what’s the point…
Ivan – proving to be gritty inspirational tough guy…
Dampier – true BIG w intangibles, i.e. elbow in mouth…
Collins – ditto
Marvin – adds utility off bench…
Vladi – capable of hitting some 3’s…
Green – was in fuego b4 injury…
Pargo – in funk, but sparkplug..
Key going into playoffs is health, but also chemistry…
Key players need to fine tune their roles…
Big Al would be a blessing, but rust is an issue…
If we could get Tmac and Green going again…
could be interesting.
Big Lou
March 18th, 2012
3:28 pm
Joe is feeding on these scrubs.
bigdave
March 18th, 2012
3:28 pm
Josh might be our best passer.
TMACfan
March 18th, 2012
3:30 pm
Josh is not our best passer
Big Lou
March 18th, 2012
3:31 pm
Debo spotting!
bigdave
March 18th, 2012
3:32 pm
this does look alot like phx Joe.. he’s killing from deep
bigdave
March 18th, 2012
3:33 pm
*a lot
bigdave
March 18th, 2012
3:34 pm
“Josh is not our best passer”
let me guess… Mac?
Blast
March 18th, 2012
3:34 pm
Quicken Arena is dead silent……..
Melvin
March 18th, 2012
3:35 pm
My goodness Joe, I take back every bad thing I said about you this season….LOL
TMACfan
March 18th, 2012
3:37 pm
No this team doesn’t really have a true passer, it’s all a tie Between multiple guys.
Blast
March 18th, 2012
3:39 pm
Josh piling up assists, rebounds…
Melvin
March 18th, 2012
3:39 pm
Josh is drop dimes (assist) all over the court…
MattP
March 18th, 2012
3:39 pm
I do agree with TMACfan, Josh is not our best. He does look like our best but he does have a good bit of stupid passes.
steven a smith
March 18th, 2012
3:39 pm
Can this Roster win a Championship even when healthy???
O'brien
March 18th, 2012
3:39 pm
Melvin,
JJ last 5 games he has really picked it up. One disclaimer though is he needs to do it against the top teams too
Big Lou
March 18th, 2012
3:39 pm
Why does LD have a lineup where nobody can score? Lol
High-sider
March 18th, 2012
3:40 pm
Y’all don’t appreciate Joe Johnson.
Big Lou
March 18th, 2012
3:41 pm
Refs suck. Clearly a charge.
steven a smith
March 18th, 2012
3:41 pm
Joe Johnson is like the Stock Market “Unpredictable” (Dow Jones Johnson)
Melvin
March 18th, 2012
3:45 pm
Obrien,
I agree but I have given him a hard time this year. I would really like to see him and Josh continue at this level for the rest of the season and into the playoffs.
High-sider
March 18th, 2012
3:47 pm
@steven a smith
“Joe Johnson is like the Stock Market “Unpredictable” (Dow Jones Johnson)” – steven a smith
You can call him [Joe Johnson] “The Dow Joe” or “The Dow Johnson” but I’m goin’ to call him “Joe Baller.”
Melvin
March 18th, 2012
3:47 pm
Debo….
steven a smith
March 18th, 2012
3:48 pm
Zsa Zsa must be the fulltime starter at the 5.
Big Lou
March 18th, 2012
3:48 pm
Debo’s stock going up due to taking of the Cavs’ collective chains.
steven a smith
March 18th, 2012
3:50 pm
Time to trade “Scrub Horford”
steven a smith
March 18th, 2012
3:51 pm
Joe should be “averaging” Nique like Nimbers. 28ppg.
northcyde
March 18th, 2012
3:54 pm
March numbers:
Josh Smith:
25.2 ppg
9.4 rebs
4.1 asst
1.7 stls
1.6 blks
50.6% FG
42.9% 3FG
68.6% FT
( all percentages are monthly season highs )
*****************
Joe Johnson:
25.2 ppg
2.8 rebs
4.6 asst
1.8 stls
50.6% FG
50% 3FG
95.8% FT
(( praying to God )) . . . can we PLEASE keep both of these guys playing like this for the rest of the season?
steven a smith
March 18th, 2012
3:58 pm
Problem is that Miami, Chicago, and New York, tends to SHUT DOWN our ” BIG 3.”
steven a smith
March 18th, 2012
4:00 pm
Miami, Chicago, and New York, usually “SHUT DOWN” our Big 3.
KevinA
March 18th, 2012
4:00 pm
13 assists already. a good sign
Admirable Snackbar
March 18th, 2012
4:03 pm
Joe’s got to do something about that hitler mustache.
Big Lou
March 18th, 2012
4:04 pm
“Miami, Chicago, and New York, usually “SHUT DOWN” our Big 3.”
Beginning of the year says otherwise.
tyger
March 18th, 2012
4:06 pm
The lack of vision in ATL kills me:
Randolph Morris added 27 points, 10 rebounds, 4 assists and 5 blocks for the Ducks.
Atlanta kid, on the roster, true BIG, played top team in college basketball, good offense…
Just another dumb move in re. young talent…now we scramble for BIGs, just stupid…
ntrigue
March 18th, 2012
4:07 pm
We play better when we post josh in the inside and force teams to double then use good ball movement to get to the player with the open shot!
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 18th, 2012
4:09 pm
Roles!
“JJ last 5 games he has really picked it up. One disclaimer though is he needs to do it against the top teams too” -OB-
_________
To add to what OB is saying: Joe’s role has changed in the last 5 games. Marvin is ghost, Kirk is the SG and guarding the perimeter. Now, Joe can go to his spot and knock down open jumpers from Josh and Kirk.
I think, the injuries have put everybody in their correct roles. Don’t forget Teague is getting more time to make plays for everybody with his defense, penetration and passes top Joe for the 3!
Too bad, Drew didn’t do this on his own.
Chris Vivlamore
March 18th, 2012
4:09 pm
Hawks sent Jannero Pargo to the Cleveland Clinic for further tests. Unsure if we will return to Atlanta with team.
tyger
March 18th, 2012
4:10 pm
JJ at SF makes him “catch/shoot” like in Phoenix vs…
Dribbling Joe
Big Lou
March 18th, 2012
4:10 pm
ntrigue
We are using the same scheme D12/SVG use in Orlando.
steven a smith
March 18th, 2012
4:11 pm
Come on ASG. Make a run at Oden. He will eventually get healthy.
Admirable Snackbar
March 18th, 2012
4:13 pm
I would give Oden the minimum to come here and prove that he can contribute to a playoff team.
steven a smith
March 18th, 2012
4:13 pm
BEST POST OF THE YEAR!!!
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 18th, 2012
4:09 pm
Roles!
“JJ last 5 games he has really picked it up. One disclaimer though is he needs to do it against the top teams too” -OB-
_________
To add to what OB is saying: Joe’s role has changed in the last 5 games. Marvin is ghost, Kirk is the SG and guarding the perimeter. Now, Joe can go to his spot and knock down open jumpers from Josh and Kirk.
I think, the injuries have put everybody in their correct roles. Don’t forget Teague is getting more time to make plays for everybody with his defense, penetration and passes top Joe for the 3!
Too bad, Drew didn’t do this on his own.
northcyde
March 18th, 2012
4:14 pm
Kyrie helping my fantasy team out big time with those FTs and steals. Keep putting up the numbers boy, but make sure your team loses . . lol.
I still say I can win 3 of these categories ( FT% – 3PTM – REB ). But I’ll need some of bigdave’s players to mail it in and have bad games.
Would love to see Jordan Crawford and OJ Mayo have big games from 3 point range today. But that is wishful thinking.
steven a smith
March 18th, 2012
4:15 pm
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 18th, 2012
4:09 pm
Roles!
“JJ last 5 games he has really picked it up. One disclaimer though is he needs to do it against the top teams too” -OB-
_________
To add to what OB is saying: Joe’s role has changed in the last 5 games. Marvin is ghost, Kirk is the SG and guarding the perimeter. Now, Joe can go to his spot and knock down open jumpers from Josh and Kirk.
I think, the injuries have put everybody in their correct roles. Don’t forget Teague is getting more time to make plays for everybody with his defense, penetration and passes top Joe for the 3!
Too bad, Drew didn’t do this on his own
BEST POST OF THE YEAR!!!!!
TMACfan
March 18th, 2012
4:16 pm
59 points in one half, keep it up Hawks!
northcyde
March 18th, 2012
4:18 pm
Admirable Snackbar
March 18th, 2012
4:13 pm
I would give Oden the minimum to come here and prove that he can contribute to a playoff team.
***************
Next year? Because he’s done for this year.
northcyde
March 18th, 2012
4:21 pm
Selfish play by Josh there. Pass the dang ball to Teague so he can get the ball back to you in the paint. Don’t force up a jumper like that.
doc
March 18th, 2012
4:22 pm
you know i wonder if woody would call ivan rook?
or would it have been rook sir?
northcyde
March 18th, 2012
4:22 pm
LOL . . that floater is so smooth coming out of JJ’s hands.
Big Lou
March 18th, 2012
4:22 pm
Josh making houses today with those bricks.
northcyde
March 18th, 2012
4:25 pm
Keep your head Josh. Don’t get out of control and get T’d up
northcyde
March 18th, 2012
4:26 pm
Too easy for JJ
Admirable Snackbar
March 18th, 2012
4:26 pm
northcyde
si
after all the Hawks are an elite team one of only 3 to have made it to the 2nd round 3 years running.!
Mac-Town (#maconchevyrider)
March 18th, 2012
4:26 pm
Triple Double for Josh today?
High-sider
March 18th, 2012
4:26 pm
Joe Johnson is letting y’all know this is still his team.
Big Lou
March 18th, 2012
4:28 pm
Josh… 9 assists. Wow.
northcyde
March 18th, 2012
4:28 pm
Great pass by Josh, though they should’ve called a foul. He’s getting killed down on the block.
terrell
March 18th, 2012
4:34 pm
Josh shootin to many jumpers. Take it to the hole man.
doc
March 18th, 2012
4:36 pm
so many of us have been waiting for jj in this role at sf. nice to see his success and hope it continuez against defensice minded C’s tomorrow.
tyger
March 18th, 2012
4:37 pm
Oden??? Please…
Who know’s Oden’s condition better than Portland?…
If there was hope on the horizon, they wouldnt cut him…
He was only on a min. contract and they still cut him…
If he can come back, then sign him when he can play…
why keep giving a roster spot to kid who cant play?…
Big Lou
March 18th, 2012
4:37 pm
JJ shot an air ball? Wow.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
March 18th, 2012
4:37 pm
I don’t pay attention to PER.
Pretty sure Freije amd Bozeman are worse than Twin. LOL
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
March 18th, 2012
4:38 pm
FIRE LD
FIRE SUND
FIRE WOODY
FIRE GEARON
ntrigue
March 18th, 2012
4:39 pm
Why do we refuse to put josh on the block!
Admirable Snackbar
March 18th, 2012
4:39 pm
tyger
Oden on a minimum??!
If healthy Oden would be better than Twinky.
Melvin
March 18th, 2012
4:44 pm
Another 3rd qtr meltdown by the Hawks
Admirable Snackbar
March 18th, 2012
4:44 pm
josh is jumper happy and ref yakkin again. don’t succumb to the dark side, josh. it’s a TRAP!!!
Big Lou
March 18th, 2012
4:46 pm
Is LD going to leave his starters out all game? Don’t they have a game against a better team tomorrow? Fire LD!
High-sider
March 18th, 2012
4:47 pm
Joe Johnson – you can’t stop him, you can only hope to contain him
DawgNole
March 18th, 2012
4:47 pm
I must’ve missed Nique declaring the Hawks have this game under control. That’s what usually precedes these kinds of collapses.
ntrigue
March 18th, 2012
4:47 pm
Josh is shooting more jumpers because his coach has him playing on the perimeter! Put him back on the block like we were doing in the last 5 gms! Fire drew please!
Big Lou
March 18th, 2012
4:50 pm
LD looks drunk. Again..
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
March 18th, 2012
4:52 pm
Astro from Fantasy League:
“I plan to pick-up Mike Bibby just before the Fantasy playoffs start since Woody will be playing him 30 minutes/game in a few weeks. ”
ROFL
DawgNole
March 18th, 2012
4:53 pm
Wonder what he looks like when he really is drunk?
Big Lou
March 18th, 2012
4:53 pm
JJ going for back to back 30 games? Nice.
Big Lou
March 18th, 2012
4:54 pm
Come on refs!
Melvin
March 18th, 2012
4:58 pm
Teague/Kirk/Joe >>> Teague/Joe/Marvin, Kirk/Joe/Marvin/, Kirk/Joe/Jamal, Bibby/Joe/Marvin, Bibby/Joe/Jamal
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
March 18th, 2012
4:58 pm
Big Ivan For President
Admirable Snackbar
March 18th, 2012
5:02 pm
Ivan’s got my vote!
Big Lou
March 18th, 2012
5:04 pm
LD played the starters too many minutes. Bad coaching.
Big Lou
March 18th, 2012
5:08 pm
Go for 30, Joe!
brigadierjerry
March 18th, 2012
5:14 pm
Been watching Ivan Johnson all year and realizing he is going to be making a lot more money next year and he might be priced out of ATL. If the Hawks have the LLE, lower level exception might not be a bad idea to use it on him because i see him getting more than the league minimum.
Melvin
March 18th, 2012
5:14 pm
Good win by the Hawks. I will take it…
brigadierjerry
March 18th, 2012
5:18 pm
Tomorrow is a big game against Boston. Boston is like the gnat you cant get rid of they keep coming back
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 18th, 2012
5:18 pm
Oden was done before he started. He has the bone debsity of a 98 year old man. His face looks like Robert Parrish does now. Smoke weed everyday!!!!
High-sider
March 18th, 2012
5:23 pm
Smoove and Z-Pack were a combined 6-26 from the field. OUCH!
Blast
March 18th, 2012
5:29 pm
To me, this game was nothing but a tune up for tomorrow’s big game.
Aside from that 3rd quarter when Josh was jacking up missed Jumpers, every Hawk played well.
Joe is back smoking!!!!!
Jeff was huge on both ends of the court.
Kirk delivered, solid game.
Zaza was big as usual, minus a few fumbles.
Tracy and Stack finding their shots and legs.
Ivan is a beast and a pest and a menace. Great! Hawks need that toughness.
Team played well, moved the ball, except for that lull in the 3rd.
Nice practice game. Now let’s see what we can do vs the Celts. Hawks beat Celtics, and they might just go on a crazy win streak.
Doing it short handed.
Go, Hawks!!!!!!!
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
March 18th, 2012
5:32 pm
We should dominate our schedule this week. Win tomorrow, beat Cleveland Wednesday, NJN Friday, WAS next Sunday.
We don’t play any elite teams until the Bulls on the 28th. We should go on a winning streak AND NOT CHOKE AT HOME VS WEAK TEAMS PLEASE
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
March 18th, 2012
5:33 pm
Tomorrow will be tough, but given how many home games we have blown, I think we are due to win
FIRE LD
northcyde
March 18th, 2012
5:44 pm
Whoa. I didn’t see from like the 9 minute mark in the 3rd on. What happened to Josh? He shoots 3 – 15 AND didn’t get his triple-double?
What the hell happened?
tyger
March 18th, 2012
5:50 pm
Nothing like a couple back to back lackies…
Other than doing what they are supposed to do…
these were two glorified scrimmages…
Real test, how they play against Boston…
Will they rise to the occassion and run the old farts out of town…
Or, as usual, feel content to ride high on two victories…
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 18th, 2012
5:50 pm
I sure hope Pargo is ok? We got a MASH unit right now. I can’t even keep up with who’s hurt. Willie, Vlad …
northcyde
March 18th, 2012
5:55 pm
brigadierjerry
March 18th, 2012
5:14 pm
Been watching Ivan Johnson all year and realizing he is going to be making a lot more money next year and he might be priced out of ATL. If the Hawks have the LLE, lower level exception might not be a bad idea to use it on him because i see him getting more than the league minimum.
****************
I agree. The Hawks need to prepare to offer Ivan either a 3 mill contract, or a contract for multiple years. Dude has a solid all around game. He has a nice offensive game. He can rebound. And he can play decent on the ball defense.
But the Hawks are so worried about money and the Luxury Tax, that we’ll lose him to someone else.
And that’s my main beef with trading away all of those 1st round picks. At some point, you have to see if you can get big time play from lower level contracts. The 8+ year guys playing on vet minimum contracts are pretty much going to give you modest play. It’s the young guys on smaller contracts that can sometimes give you star level play, if a team overlooked them.
This team would be sitting pretty good if we had talents like Kenneth Faried and Jordan Crawford on the team. Faried is like a souped-up Ivan, with Josh’s energy . . while Jordan is a loose cannon, but capable of explosive offensive games ( similar to his loose cannon namesake out in Portland ). Young guys like that are valuable to teams, because they may develop far more than expected.
San Antonio understands this perfectly.
Chris Vivlamore
March 18th, 2012
6:11 pm
Pargo will remain in Cleveland to have surgery for appendicitis. Will miss at least several games.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
March 18th, 2012
6:31 pm
ROFL @ Joe 2.8 rpg per Northcyde’s post.
He is playing so well but cannot rebound a damn basketball. He is by far the strongest SG in the league and is as strong as any SF besides maybe LBJ, yet he gets 2 rebounds a freaking game
Ken Strickland
March 18th, 2012
7:05 pm
If you’ll remember, I’ve been advocating we switch JJ to SF for over 2yrs, and now everyone can see why. And although he’s lost some foot speed and quickness, and has trouble covering some SGs, he’s a load for almost any SF on OFF, and still has enough foot speed and quickness to defend the SF position.
doc
March 18th, 2012
7:28 pm
pargo out 4-6 weeks depending on approach and how bad it is. 2 weels would be best if done with lap appy and no infection and minimal inflamation. hopefully he is getting it done right now if not done already. no reason to wait.
Slimjr
March 18th, 2012
7:32 pm
Some trucker cracked my windshield today on my 6month old car! That totally sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Slimjr
March 18th, 2012
7:33 pm
Never crack a windshield up North? WTF??????????????????????????????????????
Slimjr
March 18th, 2012
7:36 pm
Looks like Larry discovered his new Allstar 3!
But guess what he’ll screw it up with All Flu i-dic returns to action!
Slimjr
March 18th, 2012
7:37 pm
Pargo out for weeks? It’s definitely a trap now?
Sautee
March 18th, 2012
7:55 pm
I was disappointed when they held on to Kirk at the deadline, but we’d have been up sh!t creek if we HAD dealt him with Pargo now gone.
I wonder if LD has the imagination to use T-Mac for some minutes at the 1. Of course, you’d have him guard the 3 on D with Kirk guarding the 1 and JJ the 2.
Sautee
March 18th, 2012
8:18 pm
Poor UNC. Kendall Marshall with a fractured wrist.