Atlanta Hawks: Quiet at the trade deadline

I talked with CineSport’s Noah Coslov about the Hawks standing pat at the trade deadline.

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Jcard120

March 16th, 2012
9:10 am

northcyde

March 16th, 2012
9:14 am

The Core baby . . . THE CORE!!

Hawks marketing team should print up some t-shirts with a 3-way shot of JJ, Josh, and Al on it, with . . THE CORE, written at the bottom. And put their accomplishments on the back of the t-shirt.

Ernest

March 16th, 2012
9:18 am

Here’s hoping the Hawks can surprise people during the playoffs. TMac could be the ’secret weapon’, especially during the end of games.

Admirable Snackbar

March 16th, 2012
9:18 am

it’s a TRAP!

doc

March 16th, 2012
9:23 am

tmac is not the answer, never was never will be. sure he can have a few games or two but he still has no cohesion with any unit the way he is being played and he is waaaay to brittle to be counted on which has been his MO even when young.

Bob Weiss

March 16th, 2012
9:24 am

It is am embarrassment that this current ownership group has resorted to selling draft picks for cash. Second round picks should be used to draft players overseas or other talent that might develop one day. Quite frankly, if you own a sports team, you should have the enough money to absorb some potential luxury tax bills. If you don’t, you probably shouldn’t be an NBA owner. I don’t blame the Hawks for standing pat at the trading deadline, but I do blame them for selling team assets to simply haul in some cash. The league should not allow teams to sell draft picks anymore.

drmaryb.[*_*].

March 16th, 2012
9:37 am

Only in America!

The ASKG sells a player to be named later for cash. My question is, if they don’t get the cash NOW – hoe does that help them now?

Is the cash later going to reimburse them for the tax nibble they pay at season’s end? Looks like they are off-setting a future operating expense.

I just don’t get it! Seems like they “blew the whistle!” Yesterday on this season.

Marcus

March 16th, 2012
9:45 am

MC,
In the NBA bylaws, can a team package draft picks to move up earlier in the round, kinda like the Falcons did in 2011 to get WR Julio Jones?

I know ASG is now scrounging the sofa cushions and looking under car seats for change to pay the lux tax, but can you ask Sund if there was any consideration to keeping both 2nd round picks to package one or both along with whatever 1st round position we get as trade bait to move up/swap 1st round positions with another team?

northcyde

March 16th, 2012
9:52 am

THE CORE t-shirt . . . on sale NOW.

- Use this Slam Magazine cover image ( or an image similar ) with The Core posing like they did on the cover 2 years ago.

- Black t-shirt

- write THE CORE in big white or red letters on the bottom 1/3rd of the t-shirt ( depending on what color the t-shirt is and what color uniforms the players are wearing.

- write THE CORE ( 2004 – 2011 ) along the top of the t-shirt on the back

- List THE CORE’S major accomplishments on the back, like when you get a t-shirt at a concert, and they have all of the concert dates on the back

* Established 2004
* 8 NBA All-Star appearances
* Two 3rd team All-NBA selections ( 2010, 2011 )
* One All-NBA Defensive 2nd team selection ( 2010 )
* 4 straight playoff appearances ( 2008 – 11 )
* 3 straight Elite Eight ( 2nd round ) playoff appearances ( 2009 – 11 )
* 205 total wins since 2007 ( including this season’s win total )
* 126 home wins since 2007 ( 126 – 56 = .692 winning percentage )

- put the Hawks logo on the bottom 1/3rd on the back of the t-shirt

wcj

March 16th, 2012
10:00 am

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Melvin

March 16th, 2012
10:33 am

For some reason I can’t view the video at this time but I’m pretty sure I’m not missing any pertinent info like the ASG sold the team. This ownership group is a joke. Why are you paying the luxury tax when you have Jerry Stackhouse, Erik Dampier and Jason Collins on your roster? And on top of that, you have TMAC, Pargo, Gree, Ivan and Vlad making the vet min. Thats 8 out 15 players on the roster making vet min. That’s just poor asset management. This ownership group is over their heads. They have no idea how to run a successful NBA franchise.

O'Brien

March 16th, 2012
10:40 am

Northcyde,

<em. Hawks marketing team should print up some t-shirts with a 3-way shot of JJ, Josh, and Al on it, with . . THE CORE.

I know they have tried to trade Marvin, but isn’t he a part of the core too?

And I agree about the marketing. They do the bare minimum. After JJ made his ‘I don’t care about the fans showing up’ comment, they signed him to a huge deal. But given the way fans felt about him, why not do a press conference with JJ after the signing, to try and win some fans back?

Why aren’t they promoting Josh Smith (and the Hawks team as a whole) more? The Falcons have Samuel L. Jackon doing “rise-up” commercials. What do the Hawks have? Commercials talking about Linsanity and Jeff Teague, and Josh and LeBron. SMH.

And I agree about the music. Where are the big name artists as a whole (regardless of the genre)?

O'Brien

March 16th, 2012
10:49 am

Melvin,

Dont be surprised when Rick Sund says this season is evidence that the ASG is willing to enter Luxury tax territory SMH.

Section 303

March 16th, 2012
10:53 am

Sometimes I worry that the Hawks are going to leave the city just like the Thrashers. This is the 2nd time the ASG has sold a pick, correct? Did that happen the year they drafted Jordan Crawford?

You never hear of other teams going down that road. I understand they’re in the luxary and the money from a worthless 2nd round pick will help knock off some of the tax balence. But, no one else does that. At least, not that I can think of.

Debating with myself on whether or not to attend the game tonight. Do I go to Philips, DVR NCAA games I want to see? Or, do I just stay home (or goto MSU Alumni Bar (Jocks and Jills)) and watch the Tourney? Any thoughts?

sb21

March 16th, 2012
11:34 am

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sb21

March 16th, 2012
11:36 am

i don’t know why they did not send that big, selfish, cry baby off somewhere else, so they could see how he will never reach his potential.

Nathan

March 16th, 2012
11:38 am

Should of traded Josh smith and Marvin for Ryan Anderson Hedo Turkgolu and Reddick or Trade Hinrich for for a better SF Than Marvin!

Joe

March 16th, 2012
11:38 am

It really really really really really really really SUCKS being a hawks fan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Raybud

March 16th, 2012
11:40 am

I think the Hawks screwed themselves when they sign Joe Johnson to that big contract. Ever since then, all of his numbers have slipped. So are you telling me that when people pay you more, you do less? Wow, i think they should have let him and tested free agency. Everyone knows that Al and Josh are the real reasons to our success.

Another GM

March 16th, 2012
11:41 am

The Hawks organization is a complete sham. The thing they dont understand the rest of the league is snickering behind their back. Players just laugh when the issue of playing for the Hawks comes up. I can see where Josh Smith is on wanting out and Dwight not wanting to come here. There is NO elite player in this league that would come to Atlanta.

I think down the road the ASG will sell the team and they will move to Seattle. Then a new ownership group will petition the NBA for a new franchise.

Rufus1

March 16th, 2012
11:44 am

Woodson -vs- Lin

Woody…AKA “The young PG molester
AKA “The Lin-REEPER

If any of you think that CP3 or DWill would be the players that they are under WOODY, watch what he does to LIN….It has been one game and he is already calling LIN a VIRTUAL ROOKIE.

This is a qoute from a person the worked for WOODY.

“(Woodson) prefers veterans to rookies. He wants the offense to run through his stars. He will run most of his plays for Carmelo Anthony and Amar’e Stoudemire. None of this bodes well for Lin.

“Woody’s inclination would not be to play him,” said a person who has worked with Woodson.”

PS. Bibby got playing time in Woody’s 1st game and they are predicting the BDavis will soon be starting.

If he can BENCH or MARGINALIZE LIN, what would he have done to CP3 or DWILL as ROOKIES

Joe

March 16th, 2012
11:47 am

Ought to be interesting Monday night. Sund adrresses the season ticket holders. Can’t wait to hear the BS he’ll be selling.

STRETCH

March 16th, 2012
12:08 pm

One would figure a kid watching his hometown team get the crap beat out of them night in and night out saying, “One day im gonna make a change and WE are going to be like the Bulls, Lakers, Spurs or Celtics.”

But in Atlanta’s case, Dwight Howard didnt want to touch the mess created by ASG amd company. You would think the hometown kid would grow up to save the day, but Dwight, like about 25 other Superstars look at Atlanta as a place to party after the game.

drmaryb.[*_*].

March 16th, 2012
12:10 pm

Musak!

Heck, I don’t really care for rap teally, I’d rather see some mixture of artist to market to all fans. I absolutely love love some country artist out there: rock, r&b … I would pay to go see Melissa Ethridge, Bonnie Rait, and a ton of other shows after the game. They could rock the arena till 1AM on weekends … I’m just saying.

drmaryb.[*_*].

March 16th, 2012
12:12 pm

prison mike

March 16th, 2012
12:15 pm

Ehhh, what are you going to do. We almost go some teams to bite with SnT with Crawford, maybe we can getting one with Hinpoor.

The only other guy to trade was Duck but he has a boo boo. Most likely will have to face nene again in the same week.

drmaryb.[*_*].

March 16th, 2012
12:29 pm

303!

Do yourself a favor and, go to Jocks & jills … So you can watch everything man. NCAA, Hawks, good eats, afforable beer prices and chuck it up with all the guys and gals!

That’s a no brainer. Have fun 303, most all be safe. The PO-PO is out in full force tonight in fast back Mustangs, dodge chargers and plain clothes.

They’re in front of my office today like that and are pulling over seat belt violators 6 at a time on motorcycles wearing blue jeans. That’s what my patients are telling me this morning. Fulton County is azz broke these days!

drmaryb.[*_*].

March 16th, 2012
12:39 pm

Diaper Dans!

The ASKG remind me of a baby with an upset stomach, wearing a loaded diaper. They stink to high heaven.

You can find me bely up to the bar @ Taco Mac in Woodstock, Ga or, somewhere close to that.

drmaryb.[*_*].

March 16th, 2012
12:49 pm

* belly up … to see all the games tonight and not at the arena.

cdog

March 16th, 2012
12:54 pm

WHAT DID YOU EXPECT? THEY HAVE RICK SUND IN CHARGE. BET YOU HE HAD HIS USUAL CELL PHONE STUCK IN HIS EAR TRYING TO FOOL THE MEDIA. WITH THE ECONOMY BEING LIKE IT IS, HE’S A WASTED PAY CHECK

Astro Joe

March 16th, 2012
1:16 pm

Rufus, what were Lin’s stats in the 5-8 games before Woody took over? That’s my first question. Second question, what was different about Woody’s first game with the Knicks and the previous 5-6 games with Lin-friendly coach D’Antoni? Last question, how many points has Acie Law scored during this season in the NBA?

Astro Joe

March 16th, 2012
1:19 pm

Rufus, one more question, when your team is winning by 25+ points throughout most of the second half, is there a good reason why you wouldn’t play every healthy player on the team? Did you see how many minutes Melo and Amare played Wednesday night during the blowout?

Time

March 16th, 2012
1:23 pm

@rufus1 – Woody is going to try and destroy Lin. And he has a good shot. But, with the Knicks, there’s always their marketing department that alot of times has more say than anyone. I would think Dolan, who is raking in Linsanity cash, is going to force Woody to play Lin unless the Knicks somehow start winning and looking like a contender under Woody. Which we all know is not going to happen. What will happen is alot of Iso-Melo offense. To the point that Knicks fans will hate Woody and Melo almost as much as we hate him and Joe.

Time

March 16th, 2012
1:26 pm

But atleast now the Hawks stupid marketing department has some substance to the Teauge/Lin comparisons. Both are hugely talented young PG’s who will have their careers stunted by Woody.

FreshmakerGT

March 16th, 2012
1:26 pm

Hmm…the Blazers released Oden yesterday. Should we take a flier on him if we can get him cheap?

FreshmakerGT

March 16th, 2012
1:27 pm

Obviously out for this year, but maybe serviceable sometime next?

Rufus1

March 16th, 2012
1:50 pm

AJ,

The point is that Woody has a problem with young PG’s and he will continue to prove that no matter what young pg it is… He destroys the confidence of young PG,s, won’t play them and doesn’t run an offense that is to their benefit….. How can any young PG thrive in that kind of enviroment?

How your coach treats you is very important to every player, no matter their status….Look how BAD Melo played because Dantoni didn’t believe in him, so imagine a ROOKIE….Look how Lin thrived in the right system.

I worked as a teacher and I always remeber that these are KIDS(rookies) and the same rules apply when trying to get the best out of them…
CONSISTENCY, DIRECTION AND SUPPORT…WOODY provides none of that!!!!

DWill and CP3 would have FAILED just like everyone else(relatively speaking)…I don’t think they would be world class PGs, but they maybe serviceable/solid…Life doesn’ happen in a vacuum.

PS. Lin’s FALL coincides with the return of MELO(AKA The Ball stopper)

vava74

March 16th, 2012
1:53 pm

Listen guys:

To be perfectly blunt and honest I am not extremely disappointed at the lack of movement yesterday.

The fact is that this core is pretty good, in particular now that J-Smoove has flourished and Zaza is proving his value as a 25/30 minute bruiser (as I always thought he could if given those minutes).

WE NEED A FREAKING COACH. THAT IS OUR BIGGEST NEED.

WE NEED SOMEONE TO GIVE STRUCTURE AND THAT MAXIMIZES THE TALENT WE HAVE, NOT A DAMN JANITOR.

LD IS JUST A FREAKING JANITOR DOING THE JOB OF A CEO

Grandad

March 16th, 2012
2:01 pm

With respect to Mary Ellen:

‘`The ASKG sells a player to be named later for cash`’
‘`Looks like they are off-setting a future operating expense`’
_________________________________________________

The Atl Hawks dis-organization;
sells a draft pick which has yet to be determined,
for cash amount thereof unknown;
for use of a tax that has not yet come due; nor the total yet calculated.

Finally;
Sund displays – ‘`Forward Thinking`’ … ahem … `scuse me … ahem …
ahem … I had to clear my throat … coughing … sorry.

Grandad

March 16th, 2012
2:10 pm

Somebody help me out here:

the new CBA:

Owners Required;
*floor = minimum payroll
*ceiling = tax
*must draft a 1st rounder every two yrs [guaranteed contract]
*not required to draft a 2nd rounder nor keep a 2nd rounder
*vet minimums = rebates (or whatever they call it)

This is our Hawks
Is there a s#:++:er way to run a team ?

Slimjr

March 16th, 2012
2:39 pm

Hawks are 8-14 since Feb. 1st! Pathetic…..

Gearon Jr and the smucks QUIT ON THIS TEAM!!!!! But guess what? The streak will continue anyway for the unforeseeable future..

0-45 ECF visits.. Pathetic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

O'Brien

March 16th, 2012
2:41 pm

303,

I dont think the Hawks are the only team that sells draft picks for cash. I do think the Hawks do it more than others. Here we are, top 10 in payroll, but have to sell a draft pick for cash to help pay our bills. SMH

Slimjr

March 16th, 2012
2:41 pm

If Larry is the “Janitor” then what shall we call Rick Sund vava74?

Slimjr

March 16th, 2012
2:42 pm

Knee caps perhaps?

O'Brien

March 16th, 2012
2:43 pm

Slimjr,

8-14 is terrible. But you have to heep it in perspective. The Hawks played one of the toughest schedules in the league.

vava,

Zaza has played well, so I am fine with him staying and starting. However, I wish we could have found a good trade partner for Kirk. However, with the ASG unwilling to take on any extra salary for next year, its hard finding someone to swap an expiring for an expiring.

Dawg

March 16th, 2012
2:46 pm

If I hear the word “core” one more time….

The Hawks did not make a trade because every trade would have required a long distance phone call.

Dawg

March 16th, 2012
2:50 pm

The Hawks did not want to trade Hinrich for a draft pick because draft picks require salary. And besides, who could Larry possible develop anyway?

Slimjr

March 16th, 2012
2:52 pm

45 years of excuses= 0 for 45 visits to an ECF……….You cant make this up….You cant smoke this up…

The English language cannot describe the utter, objective failures of this pathetic Organization…

The Truth

March 16th, 2012
2:52 pm

Sund is making a habit out of flipping picks for cash as he did in 2010. He acquired Guard-Forward 6′ 7″ Damion James and then traded him to the Nets for their Rd: 2 pick which got converted into 3m in cash. He later bragged to the media about how smart that was. He then took the other 2nd rd 53rd overall pick and selected Guard-Forward 6′ 7″ Pape Sy, an unknown by everyone including his team-mates.

The Hawks probably paid nearly 3M in expenses preparing Pape Sy for the NBA only to cut him this season after discovering he was not a good fit.

It suggests in hindsight that the 3M Sund bragged about really covered the asinine mistake he made in the first place, LOL.

I wouldn’t be surprise if he and the ASG do this again just to spite the fans since winning don’t seem to a priority.

Slimjr

March 16th, 2012
2:53 pm

Josh is outta here at the end of his contract….Make sure you start recording his games and archive em for future entertainment… Cant blame him…