Atlanta Hawks: Hawks trade second-round draft pick for cash

The trade of the decade!

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The owners shove some money in their pockets before they try to sell the team again this offseason. Somebody buy this team please.

- Peachtree Hoops

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Atlanta Hawks most worthless franchise on the planet.

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You forgot about the Philly trade for Young.

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I can’t blame for Josh wanting to leave. I wish him well but I’m leaving out the door right behind him when it happens.

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as expected

NO, I think many people here expected our As#Clown owners to do something!!!

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Nate Mcmillan fired.

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Arthur my buy the Hawks ?

BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE

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@Sautee,

First off Sautee, you have to UNDERSTAND that being ELITE is what you do in the REGULAR SEASON not the PLAYOFFS, so that KILLS your argument right there. Sautee, you have to understand that it is a LEARNING PROCESS when it comes to DEVELOPING OUR PLAYERS.

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Arthur wouldn’t waste money on this franchise. He’s too busy trying to get an open roof stadium for the Falcons.

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@CraZy

We need more fans like you who are SATISFIED and know that IT TAKES TIME to build a winner. More fans need to have more PATIENCE. CraZy sees the UPSIDE in this team and knows that if we didn’t have any INJURIES and were HEALTHY we would at least be the 3 seed. CraZy doesn’t EXPECT TOO MUCH like most of you fans.

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Thanks for the internet.. Theres other teams to watch who are trying to do the opposite of this Franchise..Like a Miami or Chicago or New York!

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strating line up for wizards

taegue
hinrich
Joe
Josh
Zaza

bench

pargo
is willie still hurt?
marvin or t-mac if he isnt hurt
is Ivan coming back rite? v-Rad hurt again
Damp

not a team i wll pay money to see not even with play money…. ill be watching from home without the atlanta native screaming in my ear F them hawks but can i blame him?

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@Slimjr

You have to REALISTIC and understand that with MY EXPERIENCE in building WINNERS I have seen a great deal. That is I can understand why Me and the Owners really LIKE THE TEAM we have. You can’t just PANIC when a losing streak happens. Every season has it’s UPS and DOWNS.

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I am so happy now that the Hawks have traded a pick for cash. Wow what a dynamic management group.

MC: I feel sorry for you having to report on this everyday.

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To the owners: Sell the team NOW!!!!! Quit wasting our (Hawks players and fans) time and give the team to someone who actually cares.

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@ Rick Sund

Are you looking for attention because your dad did bad things to you as a child?? I never said any of that!! Time to grow up and move out of your parents basement… douchebag!!

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T plus 53 minutes.. We are experiencing engine failure, switch to BACKUPS!!!

Chicago, NewYork, Miami, Clippers, San Antonio et al. Wow backup systems are robust? Ya thinks?

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We were OPEN to some deals, but felt it would be in the BEST INTEREST of the organization that we trade our 2nd Round pick to stay under the LUXURY TAX. I mean we need FANS TO PACK the building so we can keep our CORE INTACT. Just wait fans, when we are HEALTHY you will see a DIFFERENT TEAM.

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@CraZy

No not at all, I thought you were a PATIENT fan who saw the UPSIDE in this team. You should come to the next home game, it is a CHIK FILA FAMILY NIGHT. Hope to see you!

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@ Rick Sund

F OFF

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Why do you even interview the Hawk’s GM and owners. They are full of S–t. This is just one more insult to the city and fans of Atlanta. All fans should continue to boycott attending any games until this team is sold!

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Wow Nick Young to the Clippers!? He will be a MASSIVE help to the Clippers.

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No Astro Joe, we are CONTENT with the job Drew has done. So no coaching changes. We like the fact that Drew knows how to USE A BENCH CONSISTENTLY. We like how he has GRADUALLY WORKED IN KIRT HINRICH. His DEVELOPMENT OF TEAGUE AND JOSH. With Drew JOSH has become a SUPERSTAR and CORNERSTONE of this team. We also like the fact that he doesn’t panic and STICKS TO HIS PLAN TO REST PLAYERS LIKE TMAC THE OTHER NIGHT IN DENVER even though we didn’t have many bodies due to injury.

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I wish I could be a GM for a season…. Would do a way better job.

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“First off Sautee, you have to UNDERSTAND that being ELITE is what you do in the REGULAR SEASON not the PLAYOFFS, so that KILLS your argument right there.”

First off, it was Rick Sund who said we were elite because we were one of 3 teams to make it to the second round. Does Rick Sund now deny saying that?

And, let’s see where are we in the regular season standings?

Oh, we’re 6th in the East and 10 teams have better records than we do. Is that elite? Nope.

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Is there any regular blogger here who can buy in to us standing pat?

I just don’t understand the mindset of a team who could very well still drop out of the playoff picture.

My wish now since we can’t make a move is to simply let this thing implode, waste another season rooting on these guys, and dismantle the oldest team in the league. Sund has his money now….its too late for him to feel any pain.

I hope many of you stay away from Philips because of the actions this management group is taking. That’s the only way retribution can occur.

The ASG has to be the most incompetent group every assembled. Sund and LD are just 2 hangers on who would rat out their mother to keep their position.

Am I showing how disgruntled I am? Nene? McGee? Camby? Good gosh.
Josh, I hope you get your wish.

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@Sautee

Actually Sautee it was my boss Michael Gearon who said that so please get your facts straight before you post. So basically we are a TOP 11 team in the NBA. With all of our INJURIES. Sautee you are MAKING MY POINT. Can you imagine where we would be if we were HEALTHY.

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“Nate MacMillan fired. Some may recall that I predicted he would be the hawks head coach next year. Long-time linkage to Sund.”

Astro Joe,

Looks like its all aligning to be just that.

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People are wondering why the Hawks didnt get in on any of those big men deals? Well, cause Sund probably wasnt invited, reason being, nobody wants anything the Hawks have to offer!

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Kevin, seems like it is quite possible that Sund was only offered a few magic beans and/or flat soda in return for what he was willing to trade. Without knowing the specifics about every trade discussed, it is hard to say if he should have done something or even if he did the right thing by NOT moving forward with a trade. At the end of the day, he answers to his bosses and not the fan base.

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You know it’s funny, I came on today….checked all the trades that were made and wasn’t a bit surprised that we didn’t make any significant moves. I wasn’t mad or angry or upset….it’s become like second nature. I don’t expect these guys to do anything, anymore. It’s a shame we have this talent pool, but not using it to get pieces we really need.

Oh well.

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lets eggg sund house up

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YES WE NEED TO EGG THE $#IT OUT OF HIS HOUSE

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@Rod and CraZy: We never even had record of you as a season ticket holder anyway. Enjoy watching on TV. Next in line please!

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AJ,

Ironically, LD said na interview that LD reminds him of a young Nate McMillan.

northcyde,

My issue is how do you give JJ one of the richest contracts in the League, and then sit on your hands? Is JJ’s contract really worth 2 homeplayoff games (JJ gets us 2 hoome games in the second round imo)

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I think its time for the fans to say what they really feel about this organization. I got a feeling that these r-tards will drive the product down so badly that they will sell to a owner that will send this team to another city and that is happen right now. It is the same for the Trashers fans right now (they are still in first place the SE divison). Somebody needs to find a way so our voices can be heard or we going to lose another professional team.

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” I hate the Hawks ”

I have been accused of being a hater;
and finally someone can be right.
I *’`hate`’* the Hawks -not the team- the ‘`organization`’
the [A]ss-clown [S]und [G]rope. (ASG)

grope – defined;
feel one’s way:
to search blindly or uncertainly
to feel or search about uncertainly for something
to search uncertainly or with difficulty for a solution
to find or make one’s way
to feel about with the hands; molestation

On the other hand:

” I love March Madness ”
It don`t git no better`n this ! … Ain`t it great !
Thurs – - -> Sun … Wall to Wall Basketball … Haw … !

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Yawn

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@KevinM. Even if the Hawks miss the playoffs do you really think they will make any real changes? I can easily see the ASG using injuries as an excuse as to why the Hawks miss the playoffs. It would give them another reason to keep this team together. The only hope is a new owner. I dont think missing the playoffs will be enough. These guys keep excuses on deck so missing the playoffs would give them a good reason to talk about all the injuries this year.

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OB, if you are bringing in a guy with 32 years experience and his best transaction is drafting the 8th best PG in 2009, I think there’s more problems than just the ASG.
Amnesty isn’t an option, our drafts are mediocre at best, and Sund himself has told you that there are no superstars coming to Atlanta.
At this rate, why do you even have a GM?

So the next time LD says we were tired after another lackadaisical defeat, we should just shrug and keep supporting the model here…..

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“This city and these bloggers here who support this organization deserve better.”

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The ASG is scaring people away. They did it in the NHL and continue to do so in the NBA.

@LT,
Heck the whole state of Georgia deserve better than this excuse of an outfit called All Suck ____ Group. They want people into seat, they want more money. Heck I got a feeling that they just use the money from GS to fund that new scoreboard. This ownership need to go, really go and never come back.

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Sarge aka Nate McMillan fired!? They actually listed to me and got rid of McM [McMistake]?

http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/03/15/reports-blazers-fire-mcmillan/?ls=iref:nbahpt1

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“They actually listed to me and got rid of McM [McMistake]?”

They are leaning your way?

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“this year we wanted to win 3 games in the second round” 4-3 gets u sent home u idiot….and we wonder why players won’t come here…can you imagine what omari stoudamire thought when rick sund made that sales pitch? “umm yeah, we wanna pay u and JJ wit this 120 million dollars, hell we don’t even want a championship ring for u, just help us get 3 wins in the second round”….omari responds: “hello, NY? please fly me up outta here asap, these clowns don’t wanna win”

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This article should be title- Deja vu? “Cash Conscience Hawks Sells draft pick”.

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“If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?”

Phipps Arena, March 16 vs Wizards

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The NBA started?

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This is the trade that should have went down. (smh)

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7tv9d6j

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The reason I choose those five is because they all have one thing in common better futures than most other Teams in the NBA.

T’wolves finally got a PG and they have Love plus D-will(Derrick) will be beasting and the only thing they might be missing is a C at the moment a dominant C that is.

OKC nothing to say about them we know why their future is bright.

Dallas Yeah their old, but in this offseason could land Deron and who knows might land Dwight too LOL!

Pacers their ahead of us

76ers their ahead of us too

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Now queue up the ASG complaints about fan attendance.

The cherry on the sundae will be Winnipeg expressing interest in an NBA team.

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Its clear the downfall of intelligent and capable leadership into a morass of bloated corruption that has taken place in the corporate sector has spread successfully to the NBA.

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ASG has an expensive hobby-we the fans have no real hope. The only choice I see is to force ASG to sell by a mass boycott of the games, making their hobby even more expensive and causing a blow to their egos. Please tell me why I am wrong or what other alternative we have.

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The Failures of The ASKG That we the fans see.

#1 Overall Signing Joe Johnson to that contract should have let him walk

#2 Not getting us a good C in here many were available today so we could finally shut up Al Horford

#3 Signing both Marvina Willaims and Mike Crap Bibby those contracts

#4 Giving away our draft pick last year we lost out on Chris Singleton

#5 Picking Marvin Williams #2 overall and thinking he’s a good player

#6 Did I mention keeping Marvin

#7 Trading away Mo Evans, Mike, Jordan Crawford, and someone else I forgot for just Kirk Hinrich and Hilton Sausage Armstrong.

#8 Rick Sund as a GM

#9 Billy Knight as a GM

#10 The Josh Childress Trade(that whole saga actually)

#11 Darfting Jeff Teague letting him rot on the bench

#12 Not letting Josh be the leader of this team

#13 Naming three captains

#14 Hiring Larry Drew to replace Woodson when we knew how that would turn out

#15 Did I mention Keeping Joe Johnson

#16 Giving away Keith Benson who will at least end up being serviceable.

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The HAWKS have been a Disaster ever since they left St.Louis. Being a Hawks Fan is detrimental to your health.
See Rick Sund at a Wax Museum near you.

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@Rick Sund
You’re right the Hawks are “CONSISTENT” CONSISTENTLY MEDIOCRE.

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Melvin, it is hard to trade an expiring contract for another expiring contract. That is what I was hoping would happen, Hinrich for Beasley with some fillers on both sides to make it work. Last year, I was hoping for Jamal for Dalembert. In lieu of addressing the expense side, Sund bailed out the owners by generating revenue via the sold draft pick.

Sorry fellow bloggers, but a GM who is able to maintain the financial ledger isn’t likely to be viewed poorly by his bosses. Again, the best shot at significant change comes when the ASG stop believing (or have clear proof) that 6 home playoff games is no longer possible. And I am fearful that they will simply decide that missing the mark this season was only due to Horford’s injury (along with the 5+ games missed by several other players throughout the season).

Of course, the other possibility with regards to Hinrich is that Willie Green is not coming back anytime soon and they needed to maintain backcourt depth to ensure they make the postseason.

Given LD’s hihly sophisticated offense that never falls short of scoring 20 points in a quarter, maybe they were concerned that too much mid-season change would hurt more than help.

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Well, it’s obvious that the ASG could care less how the rest of the season plays out. All they are trying to do at this point is save face and cash (fail).

Can’t believe how inept these owners are. Honestly, trading a draft pick (which I’m 100% certain would be gone by this time next year) for cash because of luxury tax, and for what? STACKHOUSE AND DAMPIER?? Every move this organization makes sets the team back by years.

Guess all we can look forward to is a first round sweep (assuming we make the playoffs). If no playoffs, look for a repeat outcome and team next season with the main reason Sund and LD staying being because of injuries.

I’m curious as to what will happen if we suffer the same fate with injuries next season? The future certainly looks bleak and predictable.

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Meanwhile, ASG are 3 more good by Josh Smith (win or lose) away from igniting the passions of the fan base again. Do your thing Josh, fans are happy with an entertaining (but .500) product.

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@Dept. of Unintended Irony [DoUI or DUI]

“”They actually listed [sic] to me and got rid of McM [McMistake]?”

They are leaning your way?” – DoUI

Thanks for the correction and/or referencing [pointing out] that [mistake]. The word “listed” should have been “listened.” I like the fact that you, DoUI, notify bloggers of their mistakes, errors, typos, misspellings, etc. Keep it up. I’m not offended. You’re doing a good job. Let’s give it up for DoUI, our [blog] resident English teacher.

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We were all told to expect a cost cutting move, so I can’t act too surprised at this. I would have been a lot more disappointed if the Hawks had salary-dumped a player (Hoopinion thought it might be T-Mac) to get under the tax line. I still look forward to the day when the Hawks have owners who don’t mind spending money and spend it wisely, but dumping a low 2nd round pick for cash is a more efficient use of assets than dumping a productive player to get under the tax line.

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This team is the Dollar General of the NBA.

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Big Lou, it is a reference to LD’s early press clippings when he was introduced as the new head coach and also a reflection of some of the sight-unseen-support that he received on this blog as the clear offensive mastermind this team previously lacked. His 5-man attack is a complex scheme that is difficult to learn and defend. Remember, he held a camp with the players just for the purpose of teaching his revolutionary offense.

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Unfortunately so will 28 other teams.

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* typos galore to occupy DUI

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ASG really know how to sell tickets. this move should make standing room only for the rest of the games. We can always expect this kind of move to improve our team. Whats next? A contract extension for our head coach!

Tito…….ditto your post!!!!!

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Jae Evolution…. Get greg oden!!!! The ASG does not have the money to pay those kind of doctor bills, let alone the surgery that comes with it! The guy can’t play 5 games in a row without injury or neeeded rest. But I guess the next step is for the ASG is to sign him.

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that rick sund joke is old pleaase stop it already.

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@ Rick sund
You guys have had some good consistence, the hawks have proved to be a contender but it’s stupid moves that hold the hawks down. Like when u guys traded Jordan Crawford and a 1st rounder for Kirk Heinrich right now Jordan crawford is averaging 18 points a game and he hasn’t hit his ceiling yet. What I’m trying to say is that this team is the oldest team in the league we need a first rounder for some young talent or else the hawks will struggle even more

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@steve brown

ASG has an expensive hobby-we the fans have no real hope. The only choice I see is to force ASG to sell by a mass boycott of the games, making their hobby even more expensive and causing a blow to their egos. Please tell me why I am wrong or what other alternative we have.

Someone tech savvy should start an on-line petition for Hawks fans sign. The petition should be sent to David Sterns expressing our displeasure with the current ownership. I don’t know if this has ever been done but hopefully it will embarrass the ASG among their colleagues and force them to sell. Also Mass Boycotts of games and notify media. Not AJC because they probably won’t report it.

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If 2 draft pick Hinrich had not gotten hurt, we still would not know about Teague. Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

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The Battle of Wits!

Biggie Lou, crotch sniffer … IDK if you can out wit me when it comes to “love handles”. I’m loaded for bear in that dept.

Ha Ha Ha … LOLROFKTC! (Kicking the Couch) that last one is a drmaryb original – I’m wiRed like this.

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Gearon Jr has thrown in the towel….

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No pet name? I win.

Summary

It’s about a brilliant chemist who gets cancer, and has to make drugs to pay for the bills. I like how his character changes his morals as his decent into the unlawful way life continues.

As for movies, I don’t really go watch them often, but I enjoyed these pirated ones:

Drive (Drama with a few violent scenes sprinkled in. It’s more or a artsy film than mainstream.)
Rise of the Planet of the Apes (Good Sci flick)
Xmen: First Class
Book of Eli(Apocalypse world with religious undertones)

That’s good. Drugs hurt more than help these days. I always chuckle at the side effects that are listed in those commercials. It’s all big business, and it’s more profitable to the pharmaceuticals that we are constantly sick.

Sure, no problem.

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Be in to check how you guys feel after people start seeing Horford is a tweener, that Zaza outperforms defensively & we held onto instead of going for a win now move.

how many playoffs has Horford actually NOT had a health concern?

WLOC we like our core

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“Biggie Lou, crotch sniffer … IDK if you can out wit me when it comes to “love handles”. I’m loaded for bear in that dept.”

Hey, if it’s a female’s and it smells wonderful, then I accept that name like a badge of honor.

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CANNED THE HOCKEY TEAM & THE BASKETBALL TEAM IS NEXT……….MARK MY WORDS PEOPLE!!!

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I hope the Hawks get a new ownership soon and stay in Atlanta.

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Hawks are 2-1 against Indy this year, and 0-2 against Philly. Philly traded for Sam Young, and Pacers get barbosa.

If we meet either of these 2 teams in the playoffs, can we beat them in a 7 game series? I think so, but with the trades they made, they will be a tougher out.

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Too cheap to sign Greg Oden and take a chance on him. Andrew Bogut should have been a Hawk.
Horrible leadership!!!

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Jeff Teague+Josh Smith+Kevin Garnett+Joe Johnson+Zaza Pachulia
Janero Pargo+ Kirk Hinrich + Tracy McGrady + Ivan Johnson + Ericka Dampier.

Boston would have all the respect in the world if they had that roster. All eyes on LA if they put that shtt together.

Us? “We like our core.” “We need to be healthy.” Stand pat slip to 8th seed. ASG deserves to miss completely and get 0 playoff revenue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsB4PTje8Vc
KG shoulda been a Hawk.

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“Dumping a low 2nd round pick for cash is a more efficient use of assets than dumping a productive player to get under the tax line.” – Najeh

This may be true, but I can’t help admiring the PR savvy of the Hawks organization. The timing of selling off a draft pick right after the organization’s commitment to winning a championship has been publicly questioned is really impressive.

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Luke, I’m your father.

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Darth I am your uncle.

Oh boy I’m like Grandad right now enjoying this NCAA Tournament much better than any NBA game no matter who you root for it’s always exciting and competitive no matter what.

HAWKS Organization in the words of the great Shaqtus or The Big Shamrock “I Don’t give a S*it.”

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Nimrod and Christmas, look it up

This we do know, this Franchise has deliberately over the years not been in pursuit of Championships. It appears that this present Hawk ownership will continue the tradition!

The Streak will continue: Georgia MEN’S Professional Basketball has N-E-V-E-R competed in an EASTERN CONFERENCE FINAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY RETARDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You cant smoke this ish up!

Chit on this these 8 ORANGUTANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I am rooting that this organization get dismantled in the 1st round!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Time Warner > Spirit Group

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“They lose there all star center for the year and do not gay any help for this team.”

Pause

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What is the number to the ticket office? This is so exciting…best trade ever (except the deals for Kenny “The Snake” Norman and “Speedy” Claxton).

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Someone bleached my anus!

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FIRE SUND

FIRE LD

FIRE GEARON

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Do the Hawks have a Public Relations department? If so fire them too.

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O’Brien

March 15th, 2012
4:23 pm

northcyde,

My issue is how do you give JJ one of the richest contracts in the League, and then sit on your hands? Is JJ’s contract really worth 2 home playoff games (JJ gets us 2 home games in the second round imo)

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Makes you wonder, doesn’t it? Pay him like a superstar, but choose not to build the team around him.

They’re so committed to these “core” group of guys, that they may not even understand that you may have to trade one of them, to make us better. Even if you trade for something slightly less ( or for multiple good players ), it may make the team better.

And smh @ a Hawk ticket rep calling me today, asking me about my experience at Philips Arena. I like Philips. The arena or in-game experience isn’t the problem. The inconsistency of the team is. But I’ll still go to the games if I’m in the ATL area. Knicks game is sold out, but I’ll probably be there anyway.

I’m not the type of fan to worry about. It’s those other fans that want you guys to do something significant, but refuse to do to, so you are in danger of losing them.

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Don’t know why u Hawks fans are tripping. Hawks do this every year. They make trades at odd times, when people least expect it.

And I also told you folks Hawks will not trade Josh this season, even if he asked for it. And I’m glad they didn’t. Don’t see anything good out there.

Been a Hawks fan for years, but I’ve only been to one game. Shame on me! Why, though?

Before I spend free money like that, I have to know that I am getting my money’s worth. I ain’t got it like that to be blowing bucks on a Hawks team that is almost destined to lose. So I watch from my tv, post on their blog, send support from my posts and blogs, and hope they get it right enough to win a championship. If they ever get it right, then I will attend more games.

Right now, the ASG is not committed to winning a championship, they just happy being a “good” team making the playoffs. So they sell picks, and try to stay under the cap. Can someone tell me the last team that won a championship while under the cap? So anybody going crazy Hawks did not do a trade this year is nuts, unless they are season tickets holders, and even those should know better.

There are very few superstars in this league, and Hawks have none of them, and little chance of getting one. Josh might turn out to be one. That is why I do not appreciate the Hawks even thinking about trading him. Sometimes, no trade is better than a trade. How about we wait till the Hawks get completely healthy, maybe playoff time, before we pass judgement? Because I think they have a better squad this year than they have had in a long time.

I am as frustrated as every fan out there, but I have learned to treat the Hawks with a grain of salt, take them as they are, for what they are and not get overly emotional. I view every big game like the Hawks are gonna lose. So when they do, I am not devastated, and if they win, I am giddy with joy.

Hawks are a Jerkill and Hyde team for now, and fans just have to realise that, deal with it, and not go nuts when Hawks lose a game, don’t get a high profile coach, or make a trade at the deadline. Deal with it. The ASG is a cheap organization. Don’t expect anything great from them.

Goodnight, folks.

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Reasons I don’t go to the Hawks games but watch online.

1. The DJ don’t play enough rap music. To hype up the crowd you gotta play some Future – Tony Montana not no Pitbull & Ne-Yo – Give me Everything Tonight

2. Hawks have not had a center since Mutumbo left and still won’t sign one. Collins, Dampier, Nazr Mohammed, Zaza, Solomon Jones, and Horford don’t count.

3. I only can go on one side of the arena. I ain’t paying extra for the same view.

4. Too many thirsty azz groupies rooting for the visiting team and looking for they next simp to take money from. I would holla but I only mess with chicks south of the equator.

5. Last year getting blown out at home by the Bulls in game 6. They got they tail beat and acted like they didn’t even care. If the team don’t care why should the fans.

FIRE SUND

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They will need all of their draft picks this summer. Bad move “SCRUBS”

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Give Greg Oden a try..

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Expect Josh to join the Brooklyn Nets to start the ‘12/’13 season. No D12 means the Russian’s got a huge need for someone who can be paired with Deron to create a bit of excitement in the new arena on the opposite side of the Brooklyn Bridge. As we approach the draft, look for the Nets to offer the Chump (Sund) one of their two lottery picks and a filler for Smoove.

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next year trade joe hire nate. in the mean time start zaza when al comes back hope we can make a good playoff run

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Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde

March 15th, 2012
8:49 pm

Reasons I don’t go to the Hawks games but watch online.

1. The DJ don’t play enough rap music. To hype up the crowd you gotta play some Future – Tony Montana not no Pitbull & Ne-Yo – Give me Everything Tonight

2. Hawks have not had a center since Mutumbo left and still won’t sign one. Collins, Dampier, Nazr Mohammed, Zaza, Solomon Jones, and Horford don’t count.

3. I only can go on one side of the arena. I ain’t paying extra for the same view.

4. Too many thirsty azz groupies rooting for the visiting team and looking for they next simp to take money from. I would holla but I only mess with chicks south of the equator.

5. Last year getting blown out at home by the Bulls in game 6. They got they tail beat and acted like they didn’t even care. If the team don’t care why should the fans.

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1) I agree. That organist tries to play rap songs on the organ, but it just sounds lame as hell. You would think in a city that is pretty much the epicenter of hip-hop these days, that they would definitely play more rap, or even reach out more to those stars to help promote the Hawks. But they do neither.

2) LOL @ that collection of centers. Also . . R.I.P. Jason Collier.

3) I like sitting in the 200 sections behind the goals. Section 201 or 207 used to be great seats to see the game AND see the stat scoreboard. But those are just regular seats now. I did buy a club level seat for the Philly game off the street for $50 right after tip-off ( normally $114 ).

4) Fine azz women at Philips ( especially in the club section ). And if you don’t think those South American chicks don’t have the same agenda as some of the American groupies, I got some beachfront property to sell you in Bankhead. Horford’s new wife knew EXACTLY what she needed to do to get Al.

5) The Bulls just beat us. After Teague went down, that was it. Because Jamal DEFINITELY wasn’t about to keep us in the game, with the way he shot after Game 1 of that series. Bulls were just too powerful.

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Like I told Blast . . . the Hawks are not a bad home ticket. Not as good as they used to be, but not a bad ticket at all. Very nice arena. Decent food. Just have to hope the right Hawks team shows up.

Go to a game we should win, like tomorrow night vs the Wiz. Then work your way up to the big money games.

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“They lose there all star center for the year and do not gay any help for this team.”

Not gaying any help for this team: NOT COOL. Not in my house, not anywhere. It’s not creative, it’s offensive to Hawks fans, and you’re better than that.

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“I would holla but I only mess with chicks south of the equator.”

So no dome?

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I don’t think those trades by the Sixers and Pacers improved those teams all that much. Doesn’t excuse the Hawks’ inaction but I don’t think the Hawks lost any ground at the deadline. The only East team that got a lot better was the Bucks, and they are a 7 seed at best.

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@ Rick Sund
Hey, I do understand the signing of Joe Johnson in this past off season. At that time he was all we had in terms of a Superstar. I think that the best thing at this point is to first of all….make sure that Josh stays in Atlanta. I don’t know if you realize this or not, but with Joe’s knees starting to give him problems, he’ll continue to miss games. I think you should get with Josh and try to get him to bring Dwight back home. You can use that as a marketing tool. ATL BOYZ or something. Now if you really want to put our team in the Elite class it starts there. Then you really have to push hard for Josh to be selected as an All Star. His numbers state than he is an All Star. As far as Joe is concerned, you need to use the newly approved AMNESTY CLAUSE. That is the only way we can take the cuffs off of us. Now if Joe is thinking of winning a Championship in ATL, “RESTRUCTURE MAN”. If you want to , feel free to give me a call sir. I really want to discuss this with you. OFF:(706) 563-6513…..HM: (706) 989-9950 Cell: (762) 822-8299 Cell 2: (706) 681-4767. I know you are a busy man, but it’s imperative that we speak sir. Now, you have done a great job assembling talent to our team. We haven’t been this deep since Steve and Mutombo. I CAN SEE US WINNING NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I am going to start a boycott against the ASG, why should we keep supporting the Atlanta Hawks (nothing against the players), but we want a championship team. Everytime we go to a game, it puts money in their pocket, they could careless about this team winning. This is a 25 year season ticket holder.

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I’m not at all surprised by the HAWKS moves, because they don’t make moves just to make them. I’m going to give Sund the benefit of the doubt for this trade period because they clearly made good decisions at the beginning of the season in terms of the guys they picked-up. My only hope this year is Horford comes back for the Playoffs and Josh keeps playing like he is right now.

GO HAWKS!

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There’s a player on New Mexico State’s team named Bandja Sy. Related to Pape, maybe?

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Same ole same ole; just more of the same. This is sad-it reminisent of the Brave commercial, where one Braves fan says the Braves have given us 15 years of winning baseball or something like that. A die in the wool Hawks fan will say the same for the Hawks or the Falcons: They have given us x amount of winning years, so I’m on board-win or lose. Just pathetic. We’re willing to accept mediocre, at best. You don’t expect much, you won’t get much. Shout out to Magic Johnson in his cronicle THE ANNOUNCEMENT ON ESPN. The Lakers have a special place in history and Magic made them that much more exciting. Love you Magic.

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Stop buying tickets if you not happy with the team.

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LOL @ people wanting to take a chance on Oden. He will not be healthy for another year

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Don’t look now, but the ASG stashing cash again and selling assets. This organization is DONE, but not for giving up a second round pick.

Don’t find it funny that Dwight gave up his opt out clause, at the same time Josh Smith started wanting out of Atlanta to compete for a championship.

Since Dwight does not want to go to Atlanta and possibly NJ, he has given management until the start of the 2013 season to bring in talent. Orlando can pay him more money, they sign Josh who wants out to play with Dwight & Deron Williams will probably opt out of NJ since they have not gotten him any surrounding talent.

You heard it here first…text messages & phone calls between players,,,the next BIG 3 will be in Orlando!

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I’ll become a fan of Orlando if Josh leaves here to go there. A Dwight and Josh combo would be a brutal defense in the paint.

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Well, this is what we can expect from ownership. Selling picks off for cash. How many other teams are doing this? Oh, that’s right…none…

Welcome to loserville….

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Seattle Hawks

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TMACfan

I think I proposed this a while ago….

Trade Marvin for some Tuna Sandwiches. Works on the ESPN trade machine.

Both sides win, we just win a little more.

- Love it lol

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[...] via The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Hawks Blog: Atlanta Hawks: Hawks trade second-round draft pick for … [...]

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Then, unfortunately, the Hawks will use their cap space to re-sign Hinrich to a 3 yr deal, draft SG’s with both 1st rd picks, and sell Phoenix’s 2nd rd pick for cash.

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Good organizations tell you how to things CAN be done. The Hawks organization tells everyone why things CAN’T be done. LA Lakers improve. The Hawks drift further toward their Joe Johnson induced salary cap hell.

What miserable ownership and management. Larry Drew is second rate too (second rate is too generous).

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Northcyde, clyde,

You would think in a city that is pretty much the epicenter of hip-hop these days, that they would definitely play more rap, or even reach out more to those stars to help promote the Hawks. But they do neither..

Don’t they have to pay these artists either royalty or appearance fees? If so, ASG is not doing it (unless they sell off a few more second round picks).

Big Ray,

Well, this is what we can expect from ownership. Selling picks off for cash. How many other teams are doing this? Oh, that’s right…none….

How many teams don’t have a working scoreboard for an entire NBA season?

I look forward to hearing what Rick Sund has to say at the meeting with season ticket holders coming up. Hopefully some of our blog regulars (303?) will go and give us an update.

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Kinfolk in the house tonight. Do your thing Chris Singleton. Preciate the tix. ha

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“We won’t receive equal value because part of the value we’ll be looking for is for the other team to absorb some salary with their cap space.” – Just Joe

Whose contract do you think they’ll be asking another team to absorb? The roster next year will be those six players plus hopefully Ivan Johnson signed to an affordable, multi-year contract with the roster filled out by minimum salary scrubs. The only current Hawks I hope to see back beyond Teague, Joe, Josh, Al, Marv, Zaza and Ivan is Pargo and Greene. Kirk will find a better deal somewhere else and Greene is more productive.

So which salary? The only salaries you want to get rid of out of those 7 players are Joe and Marv, and nobody is taking either one.

What I think the Hawks should do next year is try to go a whole year with few injuries, hopefully with a brilliant draft pick that makes the rotation and gives the Hawks 8 players. Give Sund a chance to find another Ivan in the off-season. Then take that lineup and let it go as far as it can.

Next year if Al is healthy, I expect it to be both the culmination and the swan song of the current Hawks iteration. I think we can do real damage. They paid Joe all this money… don’t trade Josh. Let it play out for a final season (preferably with Nate McMillan as coach). Maybe the Hawks break through and make the ECF. We’ve beating Miami, Chicago and Oklahoma City in impressive fashion this year. Maybe Josh has so much fun in the process he decides to say.

But you will never get equal value for Josh unless you get a first, second or third-team All-NBA player (or possibly a top-3 draft pick) in return.

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No Trades Clause!

I didn’t know Sund had a NO trades clause in his contract, but apparently he does. Even with a noose around Sund’s neck, he could have done something to sprinkle a little hope into THIS roster. Instead he as told to “get money”

So, theoretically, I can’t put all the blame on him. What I can do is question Sund’s creativity and persistence. IMHO, Sund could have gotten Kaman for a 2nd round pick and a get that TPE to make up the difference for the future.

Our Bigs are down, sans zaza. Zaza is not that go to guy in the paint as we saw in Denver. Zaza will never see a better opportunity to put the ball in the hole than that one. If there was any time to dunk the ball – that was it. Even if he missed, he may have gotten a trip to the line to tie it or wint it and, zaza is a decent FT shooter.

So, any old big would have made us happy. Apparently, Camby was available as well.

I know Nene must be syeaming mad to go to the Wizards of all places. Nene should have walked away from Denver right after Melo had, instead he showed loyalty and was traded anyways.

Howeve, John Wall is doing The Dougie now. Wall finally has a big man to play off of, it may be the best trade of the day in DC. Congrats to those guys in DC.

Meanwhile, the Hawks get richer under the guise of Vulture Capitalism.

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STRETCH

Not to mention they didn’t have a legit PG in forever either, unless you call Bibby that. lol

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From the NY Knicks ESPN forum:

Looks like the only “geniuses” here are Linsanity bandwagon fans like you.

This will cause the Knicks to give up less than 100 freaking points a game, giving them at least a CHANCE at winning, unlike in D’Antoni’s system once the team hit the road.

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Agree or disagree?

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Big Lou,

Man i forgot all about that. Just so spun up and fed up with Sund and ASG. Forgot the damage done previously!

Just waiting for another 2nd round knock out. And then Sund will say, “All we need to do is rest this off-season and get healthy.”

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Mr. Woodson is extremely effective at getting the most from the talent he has. He will gang rebound on every play and will drain all the talent Melo has to offer in Iso-Sets.

Melo will be happy. Mike will also get Melo to play great defense. Many of you forget the sticky-icky Melo put on Kobe when they made their WCF title run. Melo CAN play defense when he wants to – he really can.

Lin-Sanity may not go off as much because, Mike will play a half court game and only run fast breaks when it’s there and when it come out of the defensive opportunities.

The Knicks will see measured and the best basketball they can play. Unlike in Atlanta, Woodson has all the pieces and no gaping holes to fill, coupled with a willing to spend owner. He is a great fit there. Also, Woodson runs a very tight ship and does not bevy to horse play I’m the locker rooms and practice. It’s all business with this guy.

Mike Woodson is the “Madea” of coaches. Good Luck Mike!

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* in the locker room …

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There will be no boycott tonight, unless you count the 15 complaing bloggers on this site. If you are not there, you won’t be missed, believe that!

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Norty-Cyde! You and I have been the marketing drums for years – yet, we get nothing from the lame duck: arthur Triche.

Like Josh said, they don’t even market their All Stars in this town. No one wants to play here except for the money at the end of a career. Bench warming makes for a nice living. Traveling, hotels and hotties are pretty nice perks.

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I think Joe Johnson avoids driving to the basket because that’s not his game. He is more ‘finesse floaters’ type of guy. He used to be more aggressive, until he got injured for driving to the basket in the Suns playoff game and got shafted in the off season.

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luxury tax kicks in after you overpay for mediocre players…..Atlanta pro teams have the worst GM’s in sports

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The core….. The Nuggets over the last couple of years have been a very good team, but “the core” is gone! They have won over 50 games over the last four seasons and have not had a losing season since 02-03 season. They also went all the way to the Western Conference Finals. Yet the “core” – Nene, Anthony,Felton, Billups, JR Smith, Martin – ALL GONE!!!

I don’t believe in “KA BOOM” – but change had to be made (and I don’t mean LD for Woody). Marvin – don’t let the door hit you where the good Lord split you; T-Mac, Stack, Collins, Damp – Peace and Chicken grease! ( Give me four projects). There are guys around the league we could have that make the opposing team miserable (did you see what Mo did to us Wed).

The Hawks could have had several guys in here to ’shake it up’. Yet, they stick with the core. Start at the top with Rick Sund and keep the ax swinging until it gets to the last man on the bench!

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Yes, but the Bills are switching to a 4-3 just for him I believe.

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I began checking out on this team when management revealed a deaf ear to Horford and Smoove’s comments and demands to acquire a decent #1. It was obvious to everyone the Hawks where knocking on the door of the elite class and just needed to add a couple of pieces to rise up. Over the past 2 1/2 yrs we have seen a succession of big men Nene, Bosh, Wilcox, Gasol, Howard, etc and now Bogut and Nene again become available on trades or free agency, but no Hawks moves. Why?

Whatever……My checkout is almost complete. Good job Atlanta Spirit.

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To me it feels like the Hawks are trying to keep the same roster year after year… I dont see why they don’t want to remodel the team instead of adding 1 year vets to try and keep the salary from getting out of hand.

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The only way Atlanta will have a good team is for the Hawks to leave and another owner move his team here. I knew the Hawks were in trouble when it took half dozen owners to buy the team. It’s like having five wives. Five makeups,five hairsprays, five eye shadows and five periods.

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The Hawks get Carmelo for Joe. Even swap. Josh gets to stay in Atlanta and the Knicks fans who are frustrated with Melo get Joe. http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4ubaes3

Let’s face it: Josh Smith is the face of this Hawks franchise whether fans like it or not. LD has to take a back seat in whatever Josh wants to do. Josh has the green light for A. Bringing the ball up court B. Taking any shots C. Etc. Somehow, can you blame him? Realistically speaking, the Hawks would have no offense without going through Josh. Joe may be second, but he’s got weak knees and he doesn’t have the strength as a small forward-which he seems to be playing in the current offensive rotation. Lately, the Hawks are marketing Josh’s profile-to sell tickets to the Phillips. Hawks management knows how fans feel about Joe’s contract and are feverishly marketing Josh. No, they really don’t want Josh to go, mean mug and all. Josh is probably their biggest prized possession at this time as there will ever be. They would have to get a similar prized player or blockbuster deal-to rid them of Josh’s magnitude. So there we have it; no deals except minor ones-as least the Hawks Sund was honest when he said that they weren’t going to make any major moves. They gave up a second round pick for cash. The Hawks know they messed up when they re-signed on Joes contract, and they seem like they’re still trying to clean that up; they’re gearing up for more money to be had for the restructuring of Josh’s contract. At this point-they know that players are concerned with the money and that Josh will more than likely-accept a matching offer from the Hawks-to counter an offer from other teams looking to aquire Josh. The difference is that-most fans know what Josh brings to the table: why I of a sudden do you think that Josh is playing his balls out game after game? He’s jocking (interviewing) and displaying his real-time resume-that’s seen night after night by ALL teams coaches and management in the NBA. Why haven’t we seen this type of play by Josh years ago? Viola, the answer is obvious; we all know that NBA players seem to go harder toward and at the end of their contract in order to parlay more money for their financial future=s-m-a-r-t. Look at what happen to iso-Joe (not his fault being called iso-Joe; LD is obviously-to blame); Joes numbers started to slip AFTER he got all his money. In Josh’s mind he knows that the Hawks will pay him whatever he asks. Josh knows he’s a better player than Joe, and look what the Hawks paid him. Will that happen to Josh-WHEN he gets his new contract with the Hawks?-probably so. What does this say to other teams who covet him and may want to sign him? To me, it says that if Josh will turn down the money that the Hawks will offer him through free agency-and let’s say he signs with another team-who he knows can or will be a serious contender and Josh likes the coach, team, management, big time sports city, etc., then Josh may turn down the Hawks money and sign with another team.

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Not a Hawk more like a baby bird Cheap! Cheap! Cheap! Cheap!

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Tyler Perry should acquire the Hawks.. And if his players dont perform at a high level he’ll put em in drag on chick filet night to parade around! LMAO!

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@ Slimjr

OUCH!!!!!!

ME no want see Marvina or Joe plus Horford in Drag outfits bAWHAAHAHAHAHA!!!

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@slimJr

Coach Woodson is a much better coach than his record. The first 2 or 3 years in Atlanta, he nor no one else would have won with those guys, The core group of players still had college eligibility. He took those young players and molded them to 50 plus wins and 2 round play-off spots. The players quit on him so he had to go. I would have rather the players that quit be gone, but oh well. Now that Coach Woodson is coach of the Knicks, no way will they trade Melo for Joe. Joe was D’antoni’s man I bet Coach Woodson would rather have Melo.

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Oh well . . . my NCAA bracket is officially dead. Had Mizzou going to the Championship game.

Always nice to see an HBCU pull off an upset in the tournament. Congrats to Norfolk St.

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@ Najeh…
Najeh Davenpoop
March 15th, 2012
11:46 pm
“There’s a player on New Mexico State’s team named Bandja Sy. Related to Pape, maybe?”

The name is pretty common in the area where the two countries border (Mali and Senegal). Bangja is from Mali descent while Pape’s folks are from Senegal… Pape is from up in the NW corner of Normandy and Bandja was born in the Paris suburbs…

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Can the whole Hawks franchise go to another city for cash?

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What gets me is that poor Josh is really trying to win. Everyone else is really lying to themselves wasting time like it is a pick up game. I sure hope some take early retirement. Dominique has a chair on the Broadcast for our Old Atlanta feathers. Dominique, will you please coach this team I would hire you because at least I know they want try you.

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What’s wrong with this team is the Ownership is GULLIBLE, without a competent GM, these guys will ,keep falling on their own feet!
Sund is the IDIOT that paid Marvin Williams, and WAYYYY Overpaid Joe Johnson, Johnson should have been allowed to walk away, Williams should have been carried to a dumpster somewhere in the Middle east, and Kirk Hindtit??? good lawd! bout like trading the future for Mike freakin old ass Bibby!

Sund does not have a clue, he is just Billy Knight is redux!

n the off season, I would one
Josh Smith to NJ Nets for Brooke Lopez, and Deron Williams,
Cleveland would get Marvin for a 3rd rounder
Joe well Joe is here unless someone gets itchy like Golden State or Washington.
Teague/ Smith to Nets for Lopez/Williams! then save your damn draft pick Sund what a fuggun MORON!

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The Hawks were smart for not making any trades. This is the best defensive team the Hawks have ever had.Kirk and Jeff will cause havoc in the playoffs and when Al Returns we will have 2 inside threats now that Josh has become more confindent.T-Mac-Marvin-Janero-Vlad-and Zaza off the bench will be deadly in the playoffs.Think of the bigger picture fellas.Next year Josh will have an even greater trade value and the team can package him with a first round Pick for a true small foward.

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Making championship moves!

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