Atlanta Hawks: Hawks trade second-round draft pick for cash
The Hawks, as expected, didn’t make any major trades by today’s 3 p.m. deadline. Instead, they sent a second-round pick to Golden State for cash to help offset their first-ever luxury-tax bill that will be due at season’s end.
Under CBA rules, picks can be sold for up to $3 million but the Hawks will receive much less for their pick since first-round picks routinely sold for $3 million under the old CBA. In addition, under the new CBA there is an annual cap of $3 million on cash involved in trades, further driving down the price of picks.
The Hawks owned two second-round picks after acquiring one from the Suns in the Josh Childress sign-and-trade last summer. The Warriors will receive the lesser of the two picks and, since the Suns likely will finish with a worse record than the Hawks, Atlanta probably will keep that pick.
It was a quiet trade season overall for the Eastern Conference, with only three developments figure to affect the Hawks.
The Magic still will be a factor when the one potential blockbuster fizzled and Dwight Howard (ultimately) chose to to opt in for 2012-13. The Pacers traded a second-round draft pick to Toronto for Leandro Barbosa, who gives them some needed offensive punch. And the Sixers traded Ricky Sanchez to Memphis for Sam Young.
That was it as far as teams currently leading the Hawks in the East. The Bucks were the only other team in position for a playoff spot to make a move, acquiring Monta Ellis and Ekpe Udoh for Andrew Bogut and Stephen Jackson.
Check back later for a video blog with my thoughts on the Hawks.
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northcyde
March 15th, 2012
9:12 pm
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
March 15th, 2012
8:49 pm
Reasons I don’t go to the Hawks games but watch online.
1. The DJ don’t play enough rap music. To hype up the crowd you gotta play some Future – Tony Montana not no Pitbull & Ne-Yo – Give me Everything Tonight
2. Hawks have not had a center since Mutumbo left and still won’t sign one. Collins, Dampier, Nazr Mohammed, Zaza, Solomon Jones, and Horford don’t count.
3. I only can go on one side of the arena. I ain’t paying extra for the same view.
4. Too many thirsty azz groupies rooting for the visiting team and looking for they next simp to take money from. I would holla but I only mess with chicks south of the equator.
5. Last year getting blown out at home by the Bulls in game 6. They got they tail beat and acted like they didn’t even care. If the team don’t care why should the fans.
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1) I agree. That organist tries to play rap songs on the organ, but it just sounds lame as hell. You would think in a city that is pretty much the epicenter of hip-hop these days, that they would definitely play more rap, or even reach out more to those stars to help promote the Hawks. But they do neither.
2) LOL @ that collection of centers. Also . . R.I.P. Jason Collier.
3) I like sitting in the 200 sections behind the goals. Section 201 or 207 used to be great seats to see the game AND see the stat scoreboard. But those are just regular seats now. I did buy a club level seat for the Philly game off the street for $50 right after tip-off ( normally $114 ).
4) Fine azz women at Philips ( especially in the club section ). And if you don’t think those South American chicks don’t have the same agenda as some of the American groupies, I got some beachfront property to sell you in Bankhead. Horford’s new wife knew EXACTLY what she needed to do to get Al.
5) The Bulls just beat us. After Teague went down, that was it. Because Jamal DEFINITELY wasn’t about to keep us in the game, with the way he shot after Game 1 of that series. Bulls were just too powerful.
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Like I told Blast . . . the Hawks are not a bad home ticket. Not as good as they used to be, but not a bad ticket at all. Very nice arena. Decent food. Just have to hope the right Hawks team shows up.
Go to a game we should win, like tomorrow night vs the Wiz. Then work your way up to the big money games.
kbb
March 15th, 2012
9:18 pm
If your keeping score at home our 3 major teams might go a year without making ONE substantial move. The braves, Falcons, and Hawks are married to their “core” like their “core” have ever accomplished anything but perennial futility. Mediocrity is celebrated and rewarded in this town.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 15th, 2012
9:37 pm
“They lose there all star center for the year and do not gay any help for this team.”
Not gaying any help for this team: NOT COOL. Not in my house, not anywhere. It’s not creative, it’s offensive to Hawks fans, and you’re better than that.
Birdman of Falcatraz
March 15th, 2012
9:38 pm
Michael what did you do to get the worst job in sports journalism? Covering the Hawks must bring on thoughts of giving up the profession.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 15th, 2012
9:40 pm
“I would holla but I only mess with chicks south of the equator.”
So no dome?
PMC
March 15th, 2012
9:53 pm
Can Cash play in the paint with his back to the basket?
Najeh Davenpoop
March 15th, 2012
9:56 pm
I don’t think those trades by the Sixers and Pacers improved those teams all that much. Doesn’t excuse the Hawks’ inaction but I don’t think the Hawks lost any ground at the deadline. The only East team that got a lot better was the Bucks, and they are a 7 seed at best.
ghost of billy knight
March 15th, 2012
10:13 pm
yeah! we got cash! wooohoooo!
Jay
March 15th, 2012
10:26 pm
@ Rick Sund
Hey, I do understand the signing of Joe Johnson in this past off season. At that time he was all we had in terms of a Superstar. I think that the best thing at this point is to first of all….make sure that Josh stays in Atlanta. I don’t know if you realize this or not, but with Joe’s knees starting to give him problems, he’ll continue to miss games. I think you should get with Josh and try to get him to bring Dwight back home. You can use that as a marketing tool. ATL BOYZ or something. Now if you really want to put our team in the Elite class it starts there. Then you really have to push hard for Josh to be selected as an All Star. His numbers state than he is an All Star. As far as Joe is concerned, you need to use the newly approved AMNESTY CLAUSE. That is the only way we can take the cuffs off of us. Now if Joe is thinking of winning a Championship in ATL, “RESTRUCTURE MAN”. If you want to , feel free to give me a call sir. I really want to discuss this with you. OFF:(706) 563-6513…..HM: (706) 989-9950 Cell: (762) 822-8299 Cell 2: (706) 681-4767. I know you are a busy man, but it’s imperative that we speak sir. Now, you have done a great job assembling talent to our team. We haven’t been this deep since Steve and Mutombo. I CAN SEE US WINNING NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
tyger
March 15th, 2012
10:33 pm
South of the border even thirstier…they need a green card
Ben
March 15th, 2012
10:40 pm
I am going to start a boycott against the ASG, why should we keep supporting the Atlanta Hawks (nothing against the players), but we want a championship team. Everytime we go to a game, it puts money in their pocket, they could careless about this team winning. This is a 25 year season ticket holder.
terrell
March 15th, 2012
10:49 pm
Nene to Washington? Wow!
kwooden1
March 15th, 2012
11:04 pm
I’m not at all surprised by the HAWKS moves, because they don’t make moves just to make them. I’m going to give Sund the benefit of the doubt for this trade period because they clearly made good decisions at the beginning of the season in terms of the guys they picked-up. My only hope this year is Horford comes back for the Playoffs and Josh keeps playing like he is right now.
GO HAWKS!
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
March 15th, 2012
11:37 pm
Does Sund count this as a trade?
What happenedto all those exceptiona we got 2 or 3 years ago?
And Buddy, Joe for Hedo and Redick is a hideous trade. Joe is an All Star. He’s not Rashard Lewis
Najeh Davenpoop
March 15th, 2012
11:46 pm
There’s a player on New Mexico State’s team named Bandja Sy. Related to Pape, maybe?
Rufus1
March 16th, 2012
12:02 am
Healing Potion….
I would trade our 2013 1st rd pick for a HEALING POTION…..That is what the Hawks need.
Walt Frazier
March 16th, 2012
12:06 am
Same ole same ole; just more of the same. This is sad-it reminisent of the Brave commercial, where one Braves fan says the Braves have given us 15 years of winning baseball or something like that. A die in the wool Hawks fan will say the same for the Hawks or the Falcons: They have given us x amount of winning years, so I’m on board-win or lose. Just pathetic. We’re willing to accept mediocre, at best. You don’t expect much, you won’t get much. Shout out to Magic Johnson in his cronicle THE ANNOUNCEMENT ON ESPN. The Lakers have a special place in history and Magic made them that much more exciting. Love you Magic.
The Mask
March 16th, 2012
12:13 am
The Hawks are starting to see the trickle down effect from the same sh*tty ownership group that ran the Thrashers into the ground.
Terry Williams
March 16th, 2012
12:14 am
Stop buying tickets if you not happy with the team.
EmirS.
March 16th, 2012
12:30 am
I think Lakers walked out the real winners here. Followed by the Clippers, then the Bucks.
Can’t wait to see Kobe piling up points off of Sessions assists.
<3 my fantasy team.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
March 16th, 2012
12:43 am
LOL @ people wanting to take a chance on Oden. He will not be healthy for another year
keo
March 16th, 2012
12:54 am
Love da home evn doe I’m ultiomately a lakers fan but always stand by da home team evn against my lakers BUT THIS STUNT DA OWNERS PULLED AND BEEN PULLIN FOR YRS IS SAD IF DEY CAN’T AFFORD DA TEAM DEY SHOULD SALE IT INSTEAD OF TRYNA GET RICH AT DA EXPENSE OF LOOSIN GAMES! What I feel shoulda been dun wuz trade all assets and blow da team completly up dey have reached there peak as a unit should have traded everybody but teague and j.smith(and definetly if tryna save $ got rid of j.johnson contract at any expense dey ova paid him in da first place) but should have seen what dey could get for horford,j.johnson,hinrich etc….
Wink
March 16th, 2012
12:59 am
Don’t look now, but the ASG stashing cash again and selling assets. This organization is DONE, but not for giving up a second round pick.
Don’t find it funny that Dwight gave up his opt out clause, at the same time Josh Smith started wanting out of Atlanta to compete for a championship.
Since Dwight does not want to go to Atlanta and possibly NJ, he has given management until the start of the 2013 season to bring in talent. Orlando can pay him more money, they sign Josh who wants out to play with Dwight & Deron Williams will probably opt out of NJ since they have not gotten him any surrounding talent.
You heard it here first…text messages & phone calls between players,,,the next BIG 3 will be in Orlando!
Big Lou
March 16th, 2012
1:01 am
“South of the border even thirstier…they need a green card”
Hey, I might be pretty darn bright, but the the Spanish blood in me is offended. Not every Hispanic is illegal.
Big Lou
March 16th, 2012
1:03 am
I’ll become a fan of Orlando if Josh leaves here to go there. A Dwight and Josh combo would be a brutal defense in the paint.
TMACfan
March 16th, 2012
1:08 am
I think I proposed this a while ago….
Trade Marvin for some Tuna Sandwiches. Works on the ESPN trade machine.
Both sides win, we just win a little more.
Big Ray
March 16th, 2012
2:42 am
Well, this is what we can expect from ownership. Selling picks off for cash. How many other teams are doing this? Oh, that’s right…none…
Welcome to loserville….
Buddy Grizzard
March 16th, 2012
2:52 am
“And Buddy, Joe for Hedo and Redick is a hideous trade. Joe is an All Star. He’s not Rashard Lewis.” – (GM)
It was a pipe dream because it’s the worst contract in professional sports and nobody is going to take it on. If we could have dumped Joe, we could be in a position to go after Dwight in 2013 when his deal expires. As it stands, we will have our top 6 players under contract for one more season. After next season, Josh will be an unrestricted free agent and will likely sign elsewhere. Zaza will be an unrestricted free agent and will likely sign elsewhere. A season and a half from now Joe won’t be half the player he is now. The Hawks already have to switch on picks for him because he can’t get around them. End of 2012-13 it will probably be time to Amnesty Joe and perform a complete rebuild… the long awaited KABOOM!
“LOL @ people wanting to take a chance on Oden. He will not be healthy for another year” – (GM)
If ever.
Hayman
March 16th, 2012
3:48 am
Seattle Hawks
Buddy Grizzard
March 16th, 2012
3:55 am
Woodson: “I want everybody to know, when it comes [crunch] time and I’ve got to get a big shot, Im going to go to Melo and Amare….”
http://twitter.com/#!/Al_Iannazzone
Translation:
“I want everyone to know, I don’t trust rookie point guards, even if they are responsible for the market capitalization of MSG doubling in a period of 10 days.”
hawks D
March 16th, 2012
4:45 am
TMACfan
I think I proposed this a while ago….
Trade Marvin for some Tuna Sandwiches. Works on the ESPN trade machine.
Both sides win, we just win a little more.
- Love it lol
Buddy Grizzard
March 16th, 2012
5:04 am
Furthermore, not only will we not be in a position to go after Dwight when his current deal runs out, ORL will have sufficient cap space to make an offer to unrestricted free agent Josh Smith. If we had traded Joe to ORL, they would not have been in a position to try to sign Josh as a free agent after next season. Has anybody noticed the Josh and Dwight both have deals that expire in Summer, 2013? Anybody paying attention?
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Just Joe
March 16th, 2012
5:32 am
IMO, going in to the offseason with these 6 contracts in place (Teague, Joe, Marvin, Josh, Al, and ZaZa), it pretty much guarantees that Josh will be traded before the draft, and we will not receive equal value. We won’t receive equal value because part of the value we’ll be looking for is for the other team to absorb some salary with their cap space. Look for something like Josh for a top 10 pick. I’m still betting on New Jersey, who could be willing to play Wallace and Smith at the forward spots next to Lopez.
Just Joe
March 16th, 2012
5:40 am
Then, unfortunately, the Hawks will use their cap space to re-sign Hinrich to a 3 yr deal, draft SG’s with both 1st rd picks, and sell Phoenix’s 2nd rd pick for cash.
Dawg
March 16th, 2012
6:11 am
Surely Sund is ashamed.
Dawg
March 16th, 2012
6:15 am
Good organizations tell you how to things CAN be done. The Hawks organization tells everyone why things CAN’T be done. LA Lakers improve. The Hawks drift further toward their Joe Johnson induced salary cap hell.
What miserable ownership and management. Larry Drew is second rate too (second rate is too generous).
Steve
March 16th, 2012
7:04 am
Maybe the Hawks should sell seats on their bench to help pay the luxury tax since they won’t have enough players to fill it.. You can reuse the Gatorade if you refrigerate it after the game, Also maybe you can tell the players they need to take their uniforms home to wash.
O'Brien
March 16th, 2012
7:23 am
Northcyde, clyde,
You would think in a city that is pretty much the epicenter of hip-hop these days, that they would definitely play more rap, or even reach out more to those stars to help promote the Hawks. But they do neither..
Don’t they have to pay these artists either royalty or appearance fees? If so, ASG is not doing it (unless they sell off a few more second round picks).
Big Ray,
Well, this is what we can expect from ownership. Selling picks off for cash. How many other teams are doing this? Oh, that’s right…none….
How many teams don’t have a working scoreboard for an entire NBA season?
I look forward to hearing what Rick Sund has to say at the meeting with season ticket holders coming up. Hopefully some of our blog regulars (303?) will go and give us an update.
O'Brien
March 16th, 2012
7:24 am
Marc Stein: Two D-League callups to look for tomorrow: Erie PG Donald Sloan to Cavs and Springfield combo guard Jerry Smith to Nets.
Good for Sloan if he gets called up.
terrell
March 16th, 2012
7:30 am
Kinfolk in the house tonight. Do your thing Chris Singleton. Preciate the tix. ha
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
March 16th, 2012
7:31 am
A season and a half from now Joe won’t be half the player he is now.
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what is your basis for this argument? He just needs to take an offseason and rest. He is not a fast player and never has been. Just needs to rest this offseason
Buddy Grizzard
March 16th, 2012
7:32 am
“We won’t receive equal value because part of the value we’ll be looking for is for the other team to absorb some salary with their cap space.” – Just Joe
Whose contract do you think they’ll be asking another team to absorb? The roster next year will be those six players plus hopefully Ivan Johnson signed to an affordable, multi-year contract with the roster filled out by minimum salary scrubs. The only current Hawks I hope to see back beyond Teague, Joe, Josh, Al, Marv, Zaza and Ivan is Pargo and Greene. Kirk will find a better deal somewhere else and Greene is more productive.
So which salary? The only salaries you want to get rid of out of those 7 players are Joe and Marv, and nobody is taking either one.
What I think the Hawks should do next year is try to go a whole year with few injuries, hopefully with a brilliant draft pick that makes the rotation and gives the Hawks 8 players. Give Sund a chance to find another Ivan in the off-season. Then take that lineup and let it go as far as it can.
Next year if Al is healthy, I expect it to be both the culmination and the swan song of the current Hawks iteration. I think we can do real damage. They paid Joe all this money… don’t trade Josh. Let it play out for a final season (preferably with Nate McMillan as coach). Maybe the Hawks break through and make the ECF. We’ve beating Miami, Chicago and Oklahoma City in impressive fashion this year. Maybe Josh has so much fun in the process he decides to say.
But you will never get equal value for Josh unless you get a first, second or third-team All-NBA player (or possibly a top-3 draft pick) in return.
ASG
March 16th, 2012
7:35 am
why don’t you know nothing fans shut up and come to the games and buy our hot dogs, beer and t-shirts!
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 16th, 2012
7:36 am
No Trades Clause!
I didn’t know Sund had a NO trades clause in his contract, but apparently he does. Even with a noose around Sund’s neck, he could have done something to sprinkle a little hope into THIS roster. Instead he as told to “get money”
So, theoretically, I can’t put all the blame on him. What I can do is question Sund’s creativity and persistence. IMHO, Sund could have gotten Kaman for a 2nd round pick and a get that TPE to make up the difference for the future.
Our Bigs are down, sans zaza. Zaza is not that go to guy in the paint as we saw in Denver. Zaza will never see a better opportunity to put the ball in the hole than that one. If there was any time to dunk the ball – that was it. Even if he missed, he may have gotten a trip to the line to tie it or wint it and, zaza is a decent FT shooter.
So, any old big would have made us happy. Apparently, Camby was available as well.
I know Nene must be syeaming mad to go to the Wizards of all places. Nene should have walked away from Denver right after Melo had, instead he showed loyalty and was traded anyways.
Howeve, John Wall is doing The Dougie now. Wall finally has a big man to play off of, it may be the best trade of the day in DC. Congrats to those guys in DC.
Meanwhile, the Hawks get richer under the guise of Vulture Capitalism.
STRETCH
March 16th, 2012
7:52 am
Someone earlier pointed out about all the centers the Hawks have had since Mutombo and it has been a pathetic effort over the years by management.
Personally, IMO, when you take over a franchise, the first thing or place you start is down low and build around it. Its like building a house, first you get a foundation then build around it.
The Hawks for some reason have been building, but with no foundation. A bunch of 6-8 and 6-9 guys and guards. What i have noticed about this team as constructed, they dont have a big guy that can actually handle(not dribble), just handle a pass down low. Al is a guy, but (we all know he is not big enough), Zaza is the clumsiest guy i have ever seen come out of Europe!
After that, they have no one else and it absolutely baffles me that management continues to NOT do anything to get this team closer to where they should be.
And after looking at the moves made yesterday, im surely convinced management does not care about the winning product, just pocket that money!!!
Big Lou
March 16th, 2012
7:54 am
STRETCH
Not to mention they didn’t have a legit PG in forever either, unless you call Bibby that. lol
Big Lou
March 16th, 2012
7:58 am
Gnarls Barkley – Crazy = Hawks management.
northcyde
March 16th, 2012
8:09 am
From the NY Knicks ESPN forum:
Looks like the only “geniuses” here are Linsanity bandwagon fans like you.
Let’s get this straight, D’Antoni’s system has really, really erratic field goal attempts.
When there’s erratic shooting, the team can’t get back to the basket quick enough to get settled defensively. That leads to TONS of holes in the defense, and lots of fast breaks by the opposing team.
Under Woodson’s new system, the PGs are going to play slow paced offensive ball, passing to an open scorer who will predictably make a shot and give the team time to transition to defense.
This will cause the Knicks to give up less than 100 freaking points a game, giving them at least a CHANCE at winning, unlike in D’Antoni’s system once the team hit the road.
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Agree or disagree?
Big Lou
March 16th, 2012
8:25 am
I will try to hand count the attendance tonight on TV.
Hope there is a boycott.