Atlanta Hawks: Clippers 96, Hawks 82
Los Angeles--At the end of a long road trip and with a roster depleted by injuries, the Hawks gave a pretty-good-if-sloppy effort against the Clippers but couldn’t make plays at winning times and finished the trip 2-4.
- “We clearly just ran out of steam,” Larry Drew said.
- Whether you see that as an excuse or a legitimate explanation probably depends on your mood. My guess is it’s not charitable because of the sting of close Ls at Miami, Detroit and, especially, Denver.
- “We can’t hang our heads, but you have got to be a little disappointed,” Josh Smith said. “We had an opportunity to win in Miami. We definitely had an opportunity to win in Detroit. And the game last night was definitely our game and we gave it away. This is our last long away trip. We’ve got to take care of the home games and worry about these Eastern Conference teams and try to climb up.”
- “We have just got to fine tune these last 20-something odd games,” Joe Johnson said. “The trip is definitely not as successful as we wanted. Nowhere near. We have just go to get back home and try to string some wins together and move up the ladder board.”
- The Hawks already were down Al Horford and Ivan Johnson in the frontcourt and another option, Marvin Williams, was out too. Then Vladimir Radmanovic (back) was a late scratch and Josh was in early foul trouble.
- “I’ve got to take my hat off to my guys,” Drew said. “We knew coming in this would be a physical game and, big-man wise, we were limited. Then we got word right before the game Vladimir couldn’t go because of his back. That left us with one big guy coming off the bench, [Erick] Dampier. So basically we were left with figuring out how to stay in the game and manage the game.”
- It turned out the Clips guards Mo Williams and Eric Bledsoe hurt the Hawks more than their bigs. But a good deal of that could be contributed to Atlanta playing zone and the guards sagging to help with Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan. Also, Reggie Evans bulled his way 10 rebounds, four of them on offense.
- “We paid so much attention to their inside presence and Chris Paul running the pick-and-roll that [Mo Williams] basically went out there shooting darts,” Joe said.
- “It looked like they were moving a lot faster than we were,” Drew said of Mo Williams and Bledsoe.
- You can see the Hawks’ offense slowly start to evolve to the point where it needs Josh on the court to function effectively. As soon as he entered the game in the second quarter after sitting with two fouls, he scored four straight baskets. As soon as he left after picking up his third, scoring became a struggle again.
- “We didn’t have anybody to go to in the post to go to to pressure their guys,” Joe said. “We basically shot a lot of jump shots and we kind of lost rhythm.”
- The Hawks managed to stay in striking position. Josh scored five points on one trip when he made two free throws after a clear path foul and then sank a 3-pointer. But that’s when it looked like the Hawks lost their legs at the same time Mo and Bledsoe were hitting everything.
- Here’s how their next eight possessions went: Josh missed on a drive, Jerry Stackhouse had his layup blocked on the break, Jannero Pargo turned it over, Tracy McGrady turned it over, McGrady made a 3, McGrady turned it over again, Kirk Hinrich shot an airball, and Joe turned it over.
- Joe: “No excuses. Everyone’s schedule has been pretty tough. We wanted to give ourselves a chance to win but we just kept turning the ball over and couldn’t really close the gap.”
- Ivan Johnson is expected to return to play Friday against the Wizards. Marvin, Vladimir and Willie Green are up in the air. The Hawks just can’t ever seem to get their full complement of players dressed.
- Drew: “It feels a little bit like ’snakebit.’ But it is something we are going to have to work through and push through and face. We can’t make any excuses because a lot of teams go through injuries. We will lick our wounds on this trip and we will go home and be OK.”
- Joe: “We keep mixing and matching lineups. You don’t know who is going to play or not play. It’s a little tough and mind-boggling but, at the same time, the way the schedule is, we have just got to deal with it.”
- Josh: “We are not worried about it. We have just got to stay positive and not worry about anybody catching up to us and just put a strong of games together and not worry about the pressure of dropping a seed.”
The Hawks have to get it together because Boston is creeping up from behind in the East.
Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat
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Najeh Davenpoop
March 15th, 2012
2:09 am
From the AP recap:
Atlanta is 68-57 since Larry Drew replaced Mike Woodson as coach at the start of last season. It is the second-best start by any of the 12 coaches the Hawks have had since the 1965-66 campaign, when the franchise was in St. Louis. The only one with a better record through his first 125 games was Lenny Wilkens (76-49).
Najeh Davenpoop
March 15th, 2012
2:10 am
FTPB
“Last eve – LD singlehandedly lost the game ?
(a 1 pt loss in OT)
Wow !
So if Kirk hits that FT or Gallinari misses that “3″
LD would have singlehandedly won it ?”
No, but if LD doesn’t inexplicably go away from Josh in the post and waste two crunch time possessions running iso-Joe, it never comes down to a Gallinari 3 or a Kirk missed FT.
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
March 15th, 2012
2:33 am
Excuses Excuses
Buddy Grizzard
March 15th, 2012
2:39 am
Latest rumor is that Dwight has flip-flopped AGAIN and is considering firing agent Dan Fegan and will waive his ETO in the morning.
Hawks should trade Joe to ORL for Hedo and JJ Redick. Nobody else is going to take on Joe’s contract, and ORL has no other way to upgrade while sending out Hedo’s contract. The Hawks would save $60m and be out from under Joe’s contract in two years instead of four. Also, ORL would be in no cap position to try to sign Josh as a free agent after next season.
EmirS.
March 15th, 2012
3:23 am
I would be very happy with Dwight if he stays in Orlando.
Big Daddy
March 15th, 2012
4:02 am
Clips had our number tonight and the guys have to be tired after Tuesday’s game. No excuses though. Everyone has a compacted schedule. Now they come back into our time zone after being out for how long? Hopefully, they will get some rest, have a good practice and be ready for the Wizards on Friday.
James
March 15th, 2012
5:42 am
Our inside presence in this game was almost non-existent, which left our chances of winning rather slim when our jump shots weren’t falling consistently. Josh couldn’t get much going inside once the Clippers started playing him physically and put Kenyon Martin on him. Griffin is not a very good defender at this point in his career, but from an athletic standpoint, Josh was unable to outclass him and score using pure athleticism too, which is something he can do against a lot of PFs. Also, Martin is another very athletic player who is a great defender at his position, and you could see that his pressure bothered Josh enough to make Josh pass the ball out of the post in the quickly in the second half. The Clipper guards did a good job of pressuring Josh with help defense too. That led to Josh playing primarily on the perimeter.
Once that happened, we had almost no interior presence on the offensive end. Joe was being defended by Butler and Simmons, players of similar size to Joe, which took away his typical size advantage in the post as well, making him play more off-the-dribble, and as a catch-and-shoot. player. The results were mixed. Teague also was timid at shooting from outside (as usual) and hesitated to get to the basket knowing Jordan, Martin, and Evans were there ready to either block the shot or give a hard contest/foul.
Surely, the Hawks were tired, but the physicality from the Clippers (particularly the second unit) seemed to take it’s toll on the Hawks as well. By the end of the game, they looked tired and very perimter-oriented. This loss was not surprising.
With all of the injuries that the Hawks currently have, the Clippers were clearly at a talent advantage. Not only did they have an overall advantage inside with Griffin, Martin, Evans, and Jordan, but they also had a guy who could stay with Teague on the perimeter in Bledsoe, and a tough defender in Butler whom Joe could not bully in the post. This was just a tough matchup for the Hawks, and it made it much worse than Mo Williams went off.
It’s time to move on to the next one.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
March 15th, 2012
5:45 am
Hawks should trade Joe to ORL for Hedo and JJ Redick. Nobody else is going to take on Joe’s contract, and ORL has no other way to upgrade while sending out Hedo’s contract
*
LOL
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
March 15th, 2012
5:47 am
Reggie Evans bulled his way 10 rebounds, four of them on offense.
****
former Supersonic. Signed for vet min.
We signed 15 guards last offseason instead of getting a big.
Smh
James
March 15th, 2012
5:49 am
The good news for the Hawks is that the Wizards are coming to town and the schedule is lightening up. Aside from a few tough opponents here and there, the rest of the season looks very promising for the Hawks in terms of quality-of-opponents. The Hawks have a good chance of keeping the 6 seed or moving up to even the 5 seed if they play solid basketball for the remainder of the season. You can get away with a lot of sub-par play in the East and still make the playoffs, so the Hawks are still in a pretty good position to move up in the standings a bit.
dub366
March 15th, 2012
6:11 am
I personally can’t understand why is hinrich logging all these min and pargo coming off the bench out scoring him every time with less min
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
March 15th, 2012
6:19 am
Woody said he is going to hold players accountable.
ROFL
kevkat
March 15th, 2012
6:20 am
The only excitement left in the regular season is to see who’s traded by the deadline. Just bring on the playoffs no matter what seed the Hawks are, see what happens, and somehow enjoy this particular group for the last time.
terrell
March 15th, 2012
6:29 am
Hawks suck with Joe as the leader. Point blank. Cant win with this guy.
Larry T
March 15th, 2012
7:04 am
“Atlanta is 68-57 since Larry Drew replaced Mike Woodson ”
Gee, I some how thinks that he couid not have developed his own team. Hes just living off of what Woodson built. There is no improvement. Just an continuation of what Mike Woodson built. In fact if the Woodson trending in terms of games won each year were measure, then it would be more obvious that the hawks are no longer rising but actually trending backwards.
Woodson did a phenomonal Job with the Hawks, and Drew is just reaping the benefits of woodsons work. To add to that Woodson never had the bench that Drew has to his luxury.
Trade Al Horford!
Larry T
March 15th, 2012
7:12 am
*Gee I some how think
**was measured
***TRADE AL HORFORD.
Section 303
March 15th, 2012
7:47 am
I hit this point every year. I just need to get away from this team. Did not expect them to win last night, but tired of watching them blow games like Detroit and Denver.
Focusing on the NCAA Tourney for this weekend. Hawks can go F themselves for the next few days.
Hawkeye
March 15th, 2012
8:12 am
I keep hearing folks talking about how the hawks need to finish in this place and that place in the eastern conference so they want have to play one of the big boys and be able to make it to the 2nd round. Seriously, thats what it’s come to, hoping to make it to the 2nd round knowing your going to get beat if you make it past the 2nd. Please forgive me if I say I could care less about making just to the 2nd round. good grief.
ntrigue
March 15th, 2012
8:27 am
I think Marvin is faking his injury to hurt what little trade value he has!
vava74
March 15th, 2012
8:29 am
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/gallery/featured/GAL1166741/17/29/index.htm
Admirable Snackbar
March 15th, 2012
9:16 am
WOODY’S BACK!
IT’S A TRAP!
Ray
March 15th, 2012
9:50 am
Well according to ESPN Ariza, Kaman and Okafor are avaliable.
There are 3 people we could match up with them or even just two, and that is Al Horford and Marvin plus they’ll give us a draft pick if we take Okafor off their hands lol.
Dukester
March 15th, 2012
9:55 am
Lets see how bad Washington wants to move Javale Mcgee and Andray Blatche as a package. Take Marvin and Zaza. Underachiever trade! I like Zaza but he is not athletic enough. I would love to see Mcgee blocking shots and rebounding for this team.
Ray
March 15th, 2012
10:00 am
@ Dukester
You might want to back off on that trade request just go to youtube and look up a bunch of retard stuff Mcgee does.
Plus Zaza might not be the best Center, but he got Heart and Pride which is rare these days.
As for Mcgee he belongs on the Harlem Globetrotters that’s how he plays and it’s not a joke.
Now I need to make something clear on my last post. I’m not big fan of Ariza or Okafor, but the reality is this
Ariza > Marvin and Okafor(non-injury) > Jason and The Damp.
Would you rather the line up be Zaza, JC, and Dampier
or Zaza, Okafor, and Kaman?
O'Brien
March 15th, 2012
10:00 am
The Hawks had their chances at Miami, Detroit, and Denver, so those losses were very frustrating. However, I dont feel too bad about last night’s loss. Injuries, back to back, high altitude the night before…I am willing to look the other way.
However, Hawks have to turn it up now. We cannot afford to be the 7th or 8th seed, because that is a guaranteed 1st round loss (imo). Although…would a 1st round loss lead to LD’s 3rd year option not being picked up?
Najeh,
How bad have the Hawks been (players and coaches) for LD’s (68-57) .544 win% to be the best start since Lenny?
O'Brien
March 15th, 2012
10:02 am
FTPB,
Northyde,
Amazing the amount of attention JJ gets sometimes..
I think Josh should be the focal point of the team’s offense. When that happens, it will be interesting to see how he responds when teams give him all the defensive attention.
I do think he would handle it better than JJ does, because Josh is a good passer, especially out of double teams, while JJ would do his tricky dribble routine, and then pass the ball with less than 10 seconds left on the clock.
Ray
March 15th, 2012
10:03 am
If we give up Marvin, Horford, and Kirk or just Marvin and Horford.
We can then Amnesty Joe I’d rather them amensty Joe instead of trying to find a trade for him it’s almost impossible.
Mark
March 15th, 2012
10:04 am
I wish the hawks could get Javale Mcgee and Adray Blatche. Our defense would be ranked #1 in the league. Move Josh to the three, Horford to four and Javale as center. WOW!
Ray
March 15th, 2012
10:05 am
@ O’Brien
Josh should have always been the focal point, but because of Woodson and his Iso-Joe offense they messed that up quickly.
They won’t win a championship with Joe Johnson being the focal point it has to be Smith.
Ray
March 15th, 2012
10:07 am
@ Mark
Just like I told Dukester go to youtube and look up Javale Mcgee boneheaded mistakes you will see why this guy might not be the best fit for us.
After watching that vid I wanted no part of Mcgee.
Buddy Grizzard
March 15th, 2012
10:10 am
Laugh all you want GM, if the Hawks don’t find a taker for Joe’s contract this will be a lottery team in 2013-14.
Mark
March 15th, 2012
10:10 am
True Ray! He actually would fit in with this BONEHEADED TEAM and BONEHEADED COACH. I like the fact that he can rebound and block shots. Anything, but ZAZA starting
Astro Joe
March 15th, 2012
10:38 am
Josh is just now showing the discipline to be more of a focal point. I’m still not sold… ponly playing .500 ball in this new design.
He should do a better job of passing out of double teams because of his athleticism to jump and pass over outstretched hands AND because Joe will movewhen he sees Josh doubled, while Josh often stayed flat-footed on the perimeter when Joe is doubled. Sometimes a receiver needs to get open for the QB, not always the QB’s fault.
Jase
March 15th, 2012
10:51 am
This what we need to do today before the deadline. Trade Marvin and give 2 round pick to Nola for Chris kaman. Then second we need to trade al,Teague, to nj for d-will.
Micheal
March 15th, 2012
10:57 am
I hate to say this, but the Hawks will probably stay pat this year. I think they can make some noise in the playoffs but I just cant see them, beating Heat, Bulls or 76ers 4 out of 7 times, with our hot and cold personnel we got on the team.
Melvin
March 15th, 2012
11:02 am
If Howard opt-in to stay in Orlando for another year, that will put pressure on the Nets to trade Deron b/c he will probably leave this summer in Free Agency. Therefore, I say we send they Al and Teague or Hinrich for Deron. Get it done Sund.
Anonymous Trade Proposal
March 15th, 2012
11:05 am
Under new CBA, can you trade injured players? If so, here is a three-way trade (Atlanta-Boston-N.O.) that works for everyone (Hollinger’ analysis predicts increased win totals for all three teams):
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7w9jc3w
Maybe N.O. throws in one of those nice 1st round picks to entice Boston to take on Okafor’s contract. If so, how does anyone say no to this deal? (Keep in mind, Boston is not going to compete for a championship this year, so the trade is more of a trade that allows them to put themselves in a good position to compete next year. Also, N.O. wants to get off salaries. And this trade will make Atlanta better this year and probably next year.)
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
March 15th, 2012
11:06 am
*Yawn*
Seems like Sund is satisfied with the team.
O'Brien
March 15th, 2012
11:13 am
AJ,
If Josh continues to play the way he has been playing of late, I won’t hold the team results against him.
melvin,
I dont think Nets will trade Deron. They will hold onto him, and try and convince him to sign over the summer.
Meanwhile, the Sixers acquire Nick Young, and they only gave up a second rounder who is currently playing in Argentina.
O'Brien
March 15th, 2012
11:33 am
Lakers trade talk;
Los Angeles would give up one of its two 2012 first-round draft picks in the deal and use its $8.9 million trade exception, acquired when it traded Lamar Odom to the Dallas Mavericks in December, to absorb Beasley’s approximate $6.3 million salary..
Sixers trade;
Nick Young is expected to be put into the 76ers’ $2.7 million trade exception the team received as part of the trade in January that sent forward Marreese Speights to the Grizzlies..
It’s good to see teams having discussions and using their exceptions. When was the last time the Hawks used any exceptions? Mid-level, Bi-annual, the Childress exception, and there is probably more I have missed…SMH
ryan
March 15th, 2012
11:37 am
Hawks standing pat what else is news Sund still believes in the core how depressing is Atlanta sports these days Hawks , Braves , and Falcons .
Dawg
March 15th, 2012
11:41 am
Boooooo to Sund. Booooo to Sund.
Just Joe
March 15th, 2012
11:41 am
It’s silly to not try to upgrade one of these roster spots: Dampier, Collins, Hinrich, Stackhouse, Marvin, Radmanovic, or McGrady……and that’s assuming we’re OK with Ivan, Green & Pargo.
If you can’t upgrade, at least set us up for a better offseason.
Dawg
March 15th, 2012
11:50 am
It is silly to not try to utilize Hinrich’s expiring contract (he is not helping us win extra games)
It is silly to not try to upgrade or upgrade the future with all of the cheap tradeable pieces that we have.
It is silly to trade pick (like in the past) for trade exceptions and not use them.
It is silly for fans to expect ANYTHING creative from the Hawks organization.
ntrigue
March 15th, 2012
11:56 am
why couldn’t we trade our 2nd round pick for barbosa. Our gm sucks he messed up by not signing josh and letting him get an offer by Memphis then matching he should’ve just gave the man the contract. His refusal to do anything to make us get better is terrible doesn’t have to be a major move but do something I don’t wanna hear nothing good was available out there!
joeygt1
March 15th, 2012
11:57 am
typical hawks..management doing nothing..they are so cheap ..not willing to go into luxury tax.. we could easily trade a scrub bench player and a 2nd round pick(which we would screw up anyways) for kaman..has anybody seen how he been avg. a double double since okafor beens out…!!!!!!!!! typical hawks.. i love them.. but management and ownership sucks rock
TMACfan
March 15th, 2012
11:58 am
Anyone who wants JAVALE MCGEE, WATCH THIS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgSYA3Gb7oI&feature=related
doc
March 15th, 2012
12:14 pm
aj i amgoing to take one from your book and suggest the same to you. i am going to enjoy good josh as long as it lasts and bro he has kept it together for a run of games probably only a few hawks since nique have done. really anyone? maybe jj? maybe jc? not in total nimbers for them only points. he has been huge.
meanwhile a few woody question comments:
should be interesting to watch. doubt woody gets to stay to really deal with media.
iso-melo attack?
amare becomes josh smith watching melo
can chandler be the center/defender woody never had
does bibby teach lin how to give up the ball and stand at the three point line
does lin merely become the reincarnation of acie and be buried behing the vet davis?
many questions but wo ody has a lot of really good pieces to get er dun with.
he might succeed if he doesnt call many time outs to design plays because they never worked unless iso-melo is on because that will be it.
Ray
March 15th, 2012
12:18 pm
Okay let me go through this list right now just make a few points clear.
1. DERON WILLIAMS or D-will is not coming to the ATL Hawks it’s been said numerous times that he’ll probably land in Dallas.
2. If we get Dwight Howard he will be a rental and as a matter of fact he’s saying he’ll stay just for how long don’t know.
3. Rajon Rondo can’t shoot yeah that’s a big thing a PG is suppose to know how to do.
4. Javale Mcgee is playing boneheaded basketball he shows off tooooo much again this ain’t the harlem globetrotters.
Our best bet for getting rid of Marvin Williams is the New Orleans Hornets not going to lie at first I wasn’t so big on trading for Kaman, but then with this rash of injuries and Marvin reverting to his old ways even without Horford or Joe in the lineup at times. It has come time something needs to be done.
Telling you right now Don’t give up on Jeff Teague he is a future at least good PG not going to say superstar, but at least way above average PG you’ve seen what he can do if LD is not on his back and same for Mike Woodson.
I’d send Al Horford and Marvin to New Orleans in a heartbeat right now. Get us Ariza and Kaman that’s a good straight up trade.
Or give us both Kaman and Okafor plus Ariza and that draft pick we’ll need it.
Micheal
March 15th, 2012
12:19 pm
I think that all of the Atlanta fans from all of the team are immune to torment from these team. Seriously, its pain me so much because most of us will love to see Atlanta on top of the sport world but each year, they just let us down.
I understand they are handcuffed by Joe’s contact but they shouldn’t be content of just being in the playoffs and thats it. Oh well, the fate of being an Atlanta sports fan.
Ray
March 15th, 2012
12:24 pm
If we secure the draft pick we’d own the #14 and #21 as of right now which means according a few draft mocks we’d just miss out of Terrance Jones at #21 and Perry Jones at #14
Truth though I’m more interested on Fab Melo at #21 if he enters that is, and I know it’d be a reach, but he’d be insurance in case Kaman and Okafor both depart and then we’d at least have Two capable C’s on our team something that’s never really happened lol.
Astro Joe
March 15th, 2012
12:37 pm
doc, Linsanity had faded BEFORE WOody took over last night but no one will remeber that in 2 weeks.
No way was Orlando turning over GM.head coach ontrol to D12 (as reported last week), when dude can’t even make decisions about his own future, more or less than demands of running an NBA franchise.
OB, hard for me to get excited about anyone’s play when it delivers .500 ball.
doc, no doubt this is super-fun for long-time believers in Josh. Enjoy.
Astro Joe
March 15th, 2012
12:40 pm
Kind of strange how Gerald “Crash” Wallace keeps bouncing around the league. I think it speaks to the notion that SFs are not particularly valuable in today’s NBA. If you’re not LeBron or Durant (and maybe 2-3 others), then you are essentially a dime a dozen (including Wallace).
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 15th, 2012
12:45 pm
Flip it Over!
“Latest rumor is that Dwight has flip-flopped AGAIN and is considering firing agent Dan Fegan and will waive his ETO in the morning.” -BuddyG-
_________
One thing we know, now matter how flat a pancake is – it still has two sides. So keep flipping Dwight, it’s still a pancake. However, I prefer the side that looks less burnt.
_______
Buddy G, are you any relation to that famous local AJC writer, Louis Grizzard? I think that’s his first name? Anyway, I really enjoyed his articles here in Atlanta back in the late ’80’s early ’90’s. I believe he passed away about 10 years ago or so. Just wondering, if the talent for writing runs in your family. You are an awesome communicator with some very fine perspectives.
Didn’t see the game last night, I fell asleep during the pre-game show. Looks like my Hawks did as well. If I was too tired to watch, I can only surmise they were too tired to play, even with 120M reasons to do so – Joseph?
Astro Joe
March 15th, 2012
12:46 pm
I still expect Hawks to try and free up a little salary to get under luxury tax line. Maybe Hinrich + TMac (since LD clearly doesn’t want him on the team) for Beasley + Tolliver. We get scoring punch and another big body while T’Wolves get a replacement for Rubio and another facilitator in TMac. All have expiring deals so they become rentals to help each team with injury concerns. And Hawks shed around $500k in the process.
Astro Joe
March 15th, 2012
12:50 pm
Give Orlando credit, they essentially stared down Howard and have him locked up for another year. Now, the smart move would be to trade him in the summer so they don’t have to deal with the nonsense anymore (after offering him an extension).
hawkville
March 15th, 2012
12:59 pm
Kaman 9-20 for 21 points. Are u serious man. He needs a million damn shots to b effective. I’m good with ZaZa and Al. Kaman damn near 40 and u talking about giving up a 25 year old who still improving. Can’t wait for the trade deadline to pass. Mercy
O'Brien
March 15th, 2012
1:06 pm
Pacers get Barbosa, Sixers get Nick Young. Two teams that are currently ahead of us in the standings.
I dont know if Rick or LD knows this, but Horford is not walking through that door.
And I’m with AJ. Hawks will do whatever it takes to avoid the luxury tax. If they dont make any moves, then there must be some loop hole that we dont know about.
MC,
Do you have your Cards winning it all? Or did you keep it real?
phil
March 15th, 2012
1:06 pm
Excuses indeed. It’s always something with this bunch. I admit Idiot Josh has played much better than I ever expected, but he’s still dumber than a brick. Maybe we’ll at least make the playoffs….
phil
March 15th, 2012
1:07 pm
Fire everyone!!
vava74
March 15th, 2012
1:09 pm
Astro Joe
March 15th, 2012
12:50 pm
That’s why I said that they should accept ANY demand from Howard relating to coaches, GMs, etc
By keeping him happy they would gain a substantially higher margin of maneuver to deal him without this mid-season pressure.
O'Brien
March 15th, 2012
1:12 pm
As for the Magic, they don’t have many attractive assets, so I don’t think they will be able to make any moves to convince Dwight to say. It will be interesting to see what the domino effect is. Does Houston finally make a deal? Do the Nets trade D-Will (I dont think they will)?
joeygt1
March 15th, 2012
1:13 pm
obrien..sixes got sam young not nick young from the wizards
Wabe
March 15th, 2012
1:13 pm
i’m tired of this f’n organization…
what do people have to do to demonstrate how tired and dissatisfied fans are at this f’n ownership group?
there’s a couple hours left.
i’m not hearing any rumored moves.
hinrich’s got an expiring contract – but not hearing anything about moving him.
vava74
March 15th, 2012
1:21 pm
Wabe,
Keep cool. Complain after the deadline has passed. The only thing good about Sund is that we never know his moves until they are finished.
No rumors coming out of his office. That’s good IMO. You may not like it as a fan, but its good.
Wabe
March 15th, 2012
1:22 pm
Anybody not named Josh Smith should be under consideration to be moved…
Teague – Joe – Hinrich – Al Horford
Any one of these dudes should be actively shopped.
Wabe
March 15th, 2012
1:23 pm
I hear ya vava…
I try, but it’s hard to keep hope alive with these bumarse owners.
Wabe
March 15th, 2012
1:26 pm
Is there anyway they could put together a package for D.Williams? Financially possible?
I mean I’d throw whatever NJ’s way…
Teague – Al – Marvin (lol) for D.Williams.
I’m no cap guru, nor do I mess around with ESPN’s trade machine, so I’m not even sure if these trade scenarios would be plausible, but, I’m sure you could entice them with some of the peices we have.
Pair D.Williams with J.Smith or if at all possible, D.Williams with J.Smith + Joe.
vava74
March 15th, 2012
1:30 pm
Wabe,
Trades do not mean improvement. Excitement and renewed interest for fans, certainly, but the fact is that the majority of the trades DO NOT PAN OUT.
This does not mean that I do not advocate a move for the Hawks and I even advocate a bold one (move Horford), but we have to accept that what we want may not be what the other ballclubs want.
vava74
March 15th, 2012
1:31 pm
Trades do not NECESSARILY mean improvement
Big Lou
March 15th, 2012
1:33 pm
“Trades do not NECESSARILY mean improvement”
It does if you’ve had the same core for five years and haven’t done sh!t with it.
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 15th, 2012
1:35 pm
What a Team Needs!
“Kaman damn near 40 and u talking about giving up a 25 year old who still improving. Can’t wait for the trade deadline to pass. Mercy.” -hawksville-
______________
I believe the the deal was Kirk + filler for Kaman. The latest word is the Hornets will take a 2nd round pick now. I believe Kaman’s base salary this year is 14M, however that will be pro-rated down to less than 8M with the season half over.
That’s the key for Sund because, moving Kirk’s pro-rated 8M should be a little less that 4M and the rest could be absorbed as a TPE and, get under the slightly above cap to avoid any luxury tax taboo. Or, just send Kirk straight up with filler from the bench to ride out the season.
Or, finally, just sen a 2nd round pick and gain the full TPE of about 7M (half Kaman’s salary). Or, just do nothing and get healthy! Which is dumber than dumb because we have not been healthy all year and are loaded with old, worn down vets.
WWSD? At this point, who cares?
Ray
March 15th, 2012
1:35 pm
And will someone for the love of God tell these people Deron Willaims isn’t coming to ATL and even if he does it’s a rental he’s bolting for Dallas come offseason time.
vava74
March 15th, 2012
1:36 pm
maybe we could have convinced Prokhorov to accept this:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7ormka4
Nets would get:
JJ (mega salary dump move)
Hinrich (cap space)
Hawks would get:
Petro (salary dump for NJ)
Humphries (RFA at the end of the year)
M. Brooks (the blue chip for us)
Okur (RFA – salary dump for us)
Big Lou
March 15th, 2012
1:38 pm
“WWSD? At this point, who cares?”
You know he isn’t going to nothing. Absolutely nothing. Injuries are his excuse and his scape goat for this year. LD will be the coach next year because of that, too.
vava74
March 15th, 2012
1:39 pm
Big Lou,
People advocate trades left and right FOR PLAYERS WHO ARE PLAYING FOR LOSING BALL CLUBS.
These clubs most of the time are losing games because their players are not that good.
ntrigue
March 15th, 2012
1:39 pm
Sund will not make a move sorry yall he’s too dumb to realize he needs to shop Kirk, and Marvin an at least see what you can get in return! Guarenteed he’s sitting at hm doing nothing!
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 15th, 2012
1:40 pm
Also, hawksville, one more thing. Kaman would not be a #1 scoring options on this team. He is probably asked to take 21 shots as the only BIG on a gutted team.
In Atlanta, Josh takes those shots inside and outside. His job would be to rebound, defend and score inside where he is efficient. I would keep perspective, when using a one game sample as statistical trend.
vava74
March 15th, 2012
1:40 pm
Sessions to the Lakers… for a 1st round pick
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 15th, 2012
1:47 pm
Breaking News @ 145PM:
Sessions to Lakers for future draft pick. Which round is that pick?
vava74
March 15th, 2012
1:49 pm
It’s Walton and a 1st for Eyenga and Sessions
TMACfan
March 15th, 2012
1:51 pm
It is a protected LOTTERY draft pick
JaeEvolution
March 15th, 2012
1:52 pm
That should’ve been the deal we made with the Lakers involving Hinrich.
Ray
March 15th, 2012
1:53 pm
Well this is it the home run strecrth to see if any deals come out this next hour I’m almost certain there will be a deal from the hawks just not one everyone wants.
Sund if you want my respect get us Kaman, Ariza, and Okafor in here plus that 1st round pick as well.
Dump off Horford and Marvin plus Kirk he might like playing in Atl, but the reality we have too many G’s right now not enough Big guys.
Ray
March 15th, 2012
1:54 pm
Home run stretch* sorry about that type.
Ray
March 15th, 2012
1:54 pm
Dang it I hate typo’s
Dept. Of Unintended Irony
March 15th, 2012
1:55 pm
“Kaman 9-20 for 21 points. Are u serious man. He needs a million damn shots to b effective. I’m good with ZaZa and Al. Kaman damn near 40 and u talking about giving up a 25 year old who still improving. Can’t wait for the trade deadline to pass. Mercy”
Yes, being 29 is definitely very close to approaching 40.
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 15th, 2012
1:56 pm
Romney Cakes!
I posted last week that Dwight was staying put. That guy craves attention and has ruined all 29 foolish teams not on his wish list by thwarting any trade moves.
Any teams waiting to improve their rosters by, watching the ball stop on offense and not moving their feet on defense, are getting beat on that play. Both the offensive play and defensive play will net zero points and, that rebound is a 50-50 toss up depending on who blocks out for the board.
That my cohorts is ugly basketball. The Nets will suffer the most of all teams. They stopped their presses while waiting for the new “Big Baby”.
Meanwhile, back at The Ponderosa – we get a can of beans with no camp fire to keep them warm. What a bunch of losers The ASKG are.
joeygt1
March 15th, 2012
2:02 pm
are the hawks going to do anything???
TMACfan
March 15th, 2012
2:03 pm
Dept. Of Unintended Irony strikes AGAIN!!!
Ray
March 15th, 2012
2:03 pm
@ drmaryb
Loving that assessment you just put up.
TMACfan
March 15th, 2012
2:04 pm
WHY HAVEN’T WE MADE ANY MOVES YET?!?!?!?
O'Brien
March 15th, 2012
2:04 pm
Lakers get Sessions.
The Los Angeles Lakers have acquired point guard Ramon Sessions from the Cleveland Cavaliers as part of a multi-player deal that will bring the Cavs the Lakers’ 2012 first-round pick, according to league sources.
The Cavs also will send young wing player Christian Eyenga to the Lakers and veteran forward Luke Walton will be going to the Cavs. The Lakers’ will keep their draft pick this year if they miss the playoffs. As part of the deal, the Lakers also will have the right to swap first-round draft position in 2013 with the Miami Heat’s first round pick, which the Cavs own..
O'Brien
March 15th, 2012
2:07 pm
I should have said “as first reported by vava”, Lakers get Sessions.
AJ,
I think it speaks to the notion that SFs are not particularly valuable in today’s NBA..
Too bad Rick did not know that when he gave Marvin 5 years, $38 mil.
STRETCH
March 15th, 2012
2:10 pm
TMACfan,
Didnt you hear that Sund said we dont need no help, just cough syrup so the can get “healthy!”
Ray
March 15th, 2012
2:11 pm
As I’m typing two deals in the works
Warriors trying to give Capt. Jackson to San Antonio Spurs
Raptors dealing Barbaosa and Anthony Carter to Pacers for a 2nd round draft pick.
STRETCH
March 15th, 2012
2:13 pm
And as im typing im hearing Sund working a deal…..
TMACfan
March 15th, 2012
2:14 pm
@STRETCH
I seriously thought Sund had the brains to dump Marvin in the Cleveland speculation.
FIRE SUND!!
hawkfan
March 15th, 2012
2:15 pm
I have a feeling part of Dwight’s decision to stay till next season has something to do with josh’s contract ending next season. Since they could be plotting something and seeing how the hawks wouldn’t trade josh at this year’s deadline, Dwight could be putting their plan on hold to next year, just a guess
Just Joe
March 15th, 2012
2:17 pm
Isn’t that Walton contract pretty ugly (got another year or two on it)? If so, Cleveland got robbed.
Micheal
March 15th, 2012
2:18 pm
Sund got a hour but I think he is just sleep in his bed, dreaming of retirement.
Astro Joe
March 15th, 2012
2:19 pm
OB, Travis Outlaw received a similar deal from NJ. San Antonio gave something close to RJ and now are trying to cut him loose for a comparably overpriced, injured and attitudinal Captain Jack. Sund isn’t the only GM to make that mistake, in fact, my guess is that Marvin’s deal is probably an average contract for a starting SF NOT in his rookie contract. Luke Walton makes over $6M and hasn’t played in 1.5 seasons. Al Thornton (beloved on this blog for some strange reason) and Julian Wright are unemployed because GMs are only now beginning to realize the insignificance of the SF position in today’s game.
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 15th, 2012
2:19 pm
Vava, are you sure that’s a 1st rounder for Sessions.
OB or anyone, isn’t Marvin always injured the week of the trade deadline? I wouldn’t mind seeing the stats data on that one. Too lazy to look that one up or, just don’t care enough to really know. Did anyone see this buster get hurt, he said someone bumped him on his hip? So what … No player plays @ 100, ever. What a loser! Can’t call him a girl, we give birth – repeatedly. Pain IS our pleasure, just glad to contribute to the male population.
The only thing reported on Hoopshype re: Hawks is that Stack wants to be a coach after another year of broadcasting. LOL
Ray
March 15th, 2012
2:19 pm
@ Just Joe nope cause they got a draft pick from that wouldn’t say they got robbed.
Melvin
March 15th, 2012
2:21 pm
I think it speaks to the notion that SFs are not particularly valuable in today’s NBA. If you’re not LeBron or Durant (and maybe 2-3 others), then you are essentially a dime a dozen (including Wallace). – Astro,
Could we flip Marvin and get another SF out of that dozen. B/c he’s worthless… Like a penny with a hole in it…
STRETCH
March 15th, 2012
2:23 pm
TMACfan,
I thought the same thing a month ago. That would have been the safe deal. Then they could have dealt KH to the Lakers. Any deal would help the Hawks right now. ]
I like them as a group but they seem to need rubbing alcohol every night!
Its like a team full of nursing home players!
JaeEvolution
March 15th, 2012
2:23 pm
Houston just got Camby more details soon.
Can we at least flip Hinrich for a pick or something?
Just Joe
March 15th, 2012
2:24 pm
A late first round pick is my compensation for giving up a pretty good PG & having to pay Luke Walton $6.1M next year?
Dawg
March 15th, 2012
2:25 pm
I bet Sund is trying to get someone to help him get on the intRAnet.
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 15th, 2012
2:25 pm
Build It and …
What owner worth his salt would, pay a SG Calvin Johnson type money – when he has NO true center. That’s the equivalent of signing a WR when you have NO QB to get him the ball, in reverse.
Sure a SG can throw the ball inside, but to who? A small center who can’t draw a double, play with his back to the basket, post up anyone or dribble in the paint? All our guy can do is throw it back outside to Josh.
This team has puzzle pieces that will never fit, healthy or otherwise. F! Sund and his arrogance re: “We just need to get healthy.”
Healthy for what? To get unhealthy?
TMACfan
March 15th, 2012
2:26 pm
Marcus Camby was just sent to the Rockets.
Ray
March 15th, 2012
2:26 pm
@ Just Joe
Got to remember the situation Cleveland is in their basically in a rebuilding mode Kyrie Irving is the first piece they basically must build through the draft.
Also this draft is supoose to be one of the deepest in a very long time is what’s being said at best.
Astro Joe
March 15th, 2012
2:28 pm
Mary, from a professional standpoint, there is no good reason why Marvin would object to a trade. He won’t make any less money, could potentially land with a ateam that will involve him more in the offense or give him a better chance to win, and if he is traded, he can’t be amnestied by the new team. Or said differently, what is so special about the Hawks that Marvin should be begging Sund to let him stay?
Ray
March 15th, 2012
2:29 pm
If I’m not mistaken it’s a lot more going into that deal with the Cavs I forgot all it said, but something about the Lakers being able to flip flop draft picks with the Cavs next year or something on that line.
Cavs won’t lose it just that Lakers would gain that spot instead and flip with them or something.
Yes Camby is now a Rocket just saw that.
SteveW
March 15th, 2012
2:30 pm
Pacers get Barborasa for a 2nd pick
Sixers get Sam Young from the Griz
Good moves
Spurs ditch Richard Jefferson for Stephen Jackson – another good move – possibly
JJ
March 15th, 2012
2:31 pm
It’s truly amazing to me that Sund and MG Jr. think this team can win anything signficant “if they get healthy”. Even if they get through the 1st round again, and even with a healthy Al does anyone really think they can win three straight series against Heat, Bulls, and WC Champ??
Wabe
March 15th, 2012
2:31 pm
vava,
You’re right that trades do not necessarily gaurantee improvement. I agree 100%. But, with that said, this team, as currently constructed, is not a legitimate threat, IMO, to advance any deeper into the playoffs than we have in years past.
We’ve been throwing the same group out there year after year hoping that this will be the year, and it hasn’t panned out yet, and it isn’t gonna be any different this year.
At this point, I’m more inclined to follow new faces play worst just for the sake of watching something new. I’m tired of the same ish day after day, year after year. It’s like choosing to watch the same average movie 50 times vs. watching a new movie, even if the new movie isn’t any better, and possibly worse than that movie you’ve watched 50 times.
I’m more inclined to watch something new and actually *hope* it turns out to be better off for the franchise than sit here and watch the same ish night after night and remain hopeless…
Melvin
March 15th, 2012
2:31 pm
Portland is playing dang near .500 ball (a little worst than the Hawks) and they are having a fire sell. While the Hawks phone line is disconnected. At least borrow Joe’s cell phone to make some calls, I’m sure he can afford to pay his bills….
Astro Joe
March 15th, 2012
2:32 pm
Blog fav Thabeet on the move again.
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SteveW
March 15th, 2012
2:33 pm
Flynn and Thabeet to Portland in the Camby trade…
TMACfan
March 15th, 2012
2:34 pm
Thabeet is garbage… how is he a blog fave?
SteveW
March 15th, 2012
2:34 pm
Warriors get a 1st pick in that Stephen Jackson/Jefferson trade…
Ray
March 15th, 2012
2:35 pm
Well at least portland got younger rather quickly I might add.
Thabeet not the best C by a long shot, but much younger and at least he’s healthy vs a Greg Oden.
Johnny Flynn feel sorry for the guy seems to be bounced around that’s where his career is headed anyways.
bigdave
March 15th, 2012
2:36 pm
given limited practice time.. im surprised we’ve had even this many moves.
SteveW
March 15th, 2012
2:36 pm
Dwight stays, and Orlando is Miami killers – I hope they somehow play in the 2nd round.
TMACfan
March 15th, 2012
2:36 pm
Chris Kaman unlikely to be moved…
SMFH
SteveW
March 15th, 2012
2:37 pm
Portland also gets Minny’s 2nd pick in the Camby trade
Houston still trying for another trade
SteveW
March 15th, 2012
2:38 pm
Jamal just said nobody has told him if he’s been traded
Big Lou
March 15th, 2012
2:38 pm
Do you guy really think this management will make a trade?
Especially after making the ‘we need to get healthy’ excuse. Come on man!
Ray
March 15th, 2012
2:39 pm
So the Hawks actually decide to stand pat this year and I’ll watch as we exit the first round because of two people Joe Johnson and Marvin Williams.
Oh and because Sund and ASKG like this group of CORE PLAYERS the only person in the core worth anything is Josh Smith because he’s actually good, and don’t need isolation plays ran for him to make him look good SMGDFH!!!!!! ARGGJHHHHHHHH!!!
JaeEvolution
March 15th, 2012
2:39 pm
Every team ahead of us in the standings has gotten better so far today.
Orlando keeps Dwight.
Pacers get Barbosa for a 2nd round pick…
Sixers get another athlete for cash?
Miami/Chicago already a level ahead of everyone.
Melvin
March 15th, 2012
2:39 pm
Houston and Portland both whip the Hawks azz and they are making deals while the Hawks are making excuses of why not to make trades. Oh, add the Lakers in that group as well… SMH
Astro Joe
March 15th, 2012
2:39 pm
TMacFan, I can’t explain it, but Thabeet’s name comes up often as a possible answer for the Hawks’ center position. No Those who mention his name fail to realize that he is awful and has been from the very beginning. Maybe if he gets a consistent 20 minutes/game, he could become the next Mutombo. Oops, never mind.
SteveW
March 15th, 2012
2:39 pm
Cavs get Walton and Kapono in the Sessions deal? Joy – Somebody call Stern quick – LA has heisted another PG not named Chris Paul
Kaman to stay with Hornets according to reports??
TMACfan
March 15th, 2012
2:40 pm
WE HAVE 20 MINUTES TO MAKE A TRADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ray
March 15th, 2012
2:40 pm
Well in nicer news
Murray St. Racers off to a good start in NCAA Tourney oh and Kansas St. is winning which I was hoping for LOL!
Better news then this joke of an organization.
SteveW
March 15th, 2012
2:40 pm
LA still working on acquiring Micheal Beasley according to Alex Kennedy
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 15th, 2012
2:41 pm
Talking Dead!
Biggie Lou, hot thunder … Your theory of an increased air-borne infection does make more sense now. Typically a virus is either air-borne or not unless the virus is mutating itself and getting stronger as it spread.
However in this case, the crew has been incubated by being sequestered on the farm. Shane and the farm prisoner are the only two that were’nt scratched, it seems and they turned rabid somehow. So, in this instance air-borne infections make sense and does answer the query.
Now about the escape plot coming up next. That horde of walkers looked to be about 30 walkers, (can’t really tell). The prisioner boy did say his camp had about 30 people and were approximately 5 miles away so, it is probably them and that amount coming outa’ them woods.
Remember, before Shane killed Otis … Herschel was ropimg the walkers with an apparatus of a pole with a rope for it’s noose and, guiding them into the barn. Once there, the blonde haired, suicidal daughter was throwing live chickens in there to keep them fed? As sick as that was it was working and Rick’s crew had no idea they were in there for many days.
Here’s my point: Rick or Glenn will bait them into the barn and bolt the lock, “let them eat cake” burn the barn down and get the hella on. Some of the crew may die, but the core will survive. Aslo, don’t forget … Herschel was storing food in the basement for the future/next scene. Something will happen in the basement too.
What’s your take?
BTW: The Hawks ain’t gonna do squat!
Melvin
March 15th, 2012
2:41 pm
Josh is definitely gone after next season at the least. Astro will be happy. Good Job BASG and Sund.
SteveW
March 15th, 2012
2:42 pm
I’m more concerned with the Pacers and Sixers deals than anybody’s – they get stronger – and we are battling with them for spots 3-6 in the East
Wabe
March 15th, 2012
2:43 pm
Ain’t no trades happening man…
This is the city of Atlanta…the most miserable freakin’ city to be a sports fan in.
The Hawks have the biggest bum of owners. Even when you think they’re gone over the summer, they’re back. And they’re still f’n with the fans.
SteveW
March 15th, 2012
2:43 pm
Breshnahan says Beasley to LA deal is falling apart – Good!
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 15th, 2012
2:43 pm
I bet Kirk and Marvin at home peeing in their pants. Those are the only two in danger for the next 18 mins.
CrαZy
March 15th, 2012
2:44 pm
I love being a Hawks Fan!!! Geeez… Get us a player that makes us better this year OR trade assets and start trying to build a team that can win tomorrow. Standing pat gets us nothing more than a 1 and done.
SteveW
March 15th, 2012
2:45 pm
Kaman looking at being bought out – with Miami, Boston and San Antonio trying to acquire him if that happens according to Adrian Woj.
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 15th, 2012
2:45 pm
MC – Really Maannne?
SteveW
March 15th, 2012
2:46 pm
Raymond Felton can’t be dealt – no takers yet
Melvin
March 15th, 2012
2:46 pm
The Lakers are like Droid. Whomever they want, they get… Besides Chris Paul….
Wabe
March 15th, 2012
2:46 pm
The next time someone goes to a Hawks game, please man, make your dissatisfaction known…
Run around the freakin’ arena with a big ol’ “F the ASG” sign if you have to. Or find a way to get right up by Nique and Rathbun and yell it off the top of your lungs…
Tired of these bums man…
Ray
March 15th, 2012
2:46 pm
If ya’ll want anything to happen hope for the worst and something will actually I’m hoping hawks end up missing the playoffs. As much as you can blame it on injuries you just can’t we’ve had injuries before and we still got into the second round.
Ray
March 15th, 2012
2:48 pm
WE HAVE 13 MINS TILL TRADE DEADLINE!
MAKE IT NOT HAPPEN SUND BWAHAHAHAH!!!!
JJ
March 15th, 2012
2:48 pm
Hawks with NO CHANCE to win anything so why not either trade to make us better now OR trade to position us for the future?? Standing pat when you don’t have a legitimate chance to win is just wasting time.
Pathetic owners.
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 15th, 2012
2:50 pm
Does the AJC have a limit on how many article a Hawks beat writer can put up? Or, does TPB have to reach a targeted # of comments before a new article can go up?
ThIs is the NBA trade deadline man! Don’t complain about the uninformed fans ever again. How will they support something that doesn’t appear to exist in this town:
A NBA Basketball Team without a Press.
TMACfan
March 15th, 2012
2:50 pm
dang I have Louisville going to the Final Four, that might have been more dumb than Sund
STRETCH
March 15th, 2012
2:50 pm
Seriously? I gotta find a new city to support.
Ray
March 15th, 2012
2:50 pm
10 MINS WHAT YOU GONNA DO WHEN SUND RUNS WILD ON YOU?
JJ
March 15th, 2012
2:51 pm
@ Ray –
I’m with you. Would serve the asg right to miss the playoffs while they sit on their arses doing nothing.
Melvin
March 15th, 2012
2:51 pm
Get Josh Smith some damn help in here….. Make a trade.
TMACfan
March 15th, 2012
2:52 pm
KIRK IS STAYING IN ATLANTA WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
vava74
March 15th, 2012
2:53 pm
2:51
WojYahooNBA: Guard Kirk Hinrich will be staying with the Atlanta Hawks, league source tells Y! Sports. [via Twitter]
Ray
March 15th, 2012
2:53 pm
8 minutes cause you know doomsday is coming early this year!
Oh make that 7 LOL!
joeygt1
March 15th, 2012
2:54 pm
123
Wabe
March 15th, 2012
2:54 pm
If you put Joe, Al, Teague, Kirk on the block…
You’re telling me there wouldn’t be suitors?
I mean c’mon man. There’s little satisfaction following a team year after year when you know they have absolutely no chance to make any noise in the playoffs.
TMACfan
March 15th, 2012
2:55 pm
When does next season start?
CrαZy
March 15th, 2012
2:56 pm
It’s easy to be a bandwagon fan!!
Melvin
March 15th, 2012
2:56 pm
I’m ok with Kirk staying, get Marvin outta here at least.
TMACfan
March 15th, 2012
2:57 pm
3 minutes left…
Ray
March 15th, 2012
2:57 pm
Well it’s over ladies and gentlemen best find the next team cause I don’t plan to support the Atlanta Hawks any longer.
Oh we still have time on the clock got 3 mins as I post this.
KevinM
March 15th, 2012
2:58 pm
Haha, Camby to the Rockets, and Wallace to the Nets.
Sund simply is stealing money.
tyger
March 15th, 2012
2:58 pm
Ramon Sessions, Michael Beasley to Lakers…
Gerald Wallace to NJ
Barbosa to Pacers…
Camby to Rockets…
Thabeet/Flynn to Blazers…
“Hawks just need to get healthy…”
When will that occur? This summer, next year…
Smoove is right, they arent trying to win, why stay?
Dwight has set it up perfectly, they both expire next year…
Jamal Crawford is heading their way any minute…
DHoward, Smoove, Crawford closes ATL window…
Wabe
March 15th, 2012
2:59 pm
******************************!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ray
March 15th, 2012
2:59 pm
Well I’ve always had 99 problems but a ***** ain’t 1.
STRETCH
March 15th, 2012
3:00 pm
Wow! What a joke of a GM Sund is. While most teams in the East have made moves or tried to make moves, Sund contends that all his team needs to do is get healthy.
Looking at the team as constructed, they are the oldest team in the NBA and it shows. From the begining of the season, the rotation has resembled a Walgreens merry-go-round!!!
What an idiot. It all starts from the top people.
Ray
March 15th, 2012
3:01 pm
FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUC*****************************************************************************************************************!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Big Lou
March 15th, 2012
3:01 pm
And… BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE!
ryan
March 15th, 2012
3:01 pm
Sund Sucks i mean geeeeeeez don’t even try attempt make a trade and clear cap space we really have saddest sports town in America .
Ray
March 15th, 2012
3:02 pm
Well how is everyone doing today it’s 3 P.M. in ATL Georgia on a very nice Thursday!
joeygt1
March 15th, 2012
3:02 pm
im a huge hawks fan.. but them doing nothing to try to imporvoe the team pisses me off
TMACfan
March 15th, 2012
3:03 pm
HAHAHAHAHA Lakers FINALLY dumped Derick Fisher. Why can’t we do stuff like that?
Ray
March 15th, 2012
3:03 pm
@ Wabe me and you thinking the same thing Bud!
ARGHGHGHGHGHGHHGHGHGHGH!!!!!!!!!!!
*******************************!!!!!!!!!
Goes and jump off a cliff because I live in ATL
STRETCH
March 15th, 2012
3:03 pm
Michael Cunningham,
I know that management does not care what we the fans say, but do you know if they even know what we are saying?
CrαZy
March 15th, 2012
3:03 pm
Good luck finding another team to pull for!!! Damn Bandwagon fans!! Easy to be a Yankee fan, Heat fan and Packers fan not as easy to explain why your fans of those teams and why your favorite teams change every few years.
cp
March 15th, 2012
3:04 pm
Pathetic. The Hawks will limp into the playoffs, win a few games and the ASG will use injuries as an excuse to bring the core back along with Sund and LD. Its hard supporting this franchise.
Rick Sund
March 15th, 2012
3:04 pm
This team has a great deal of UPSIDE and we didn’t feel making a move would be in the BEST INTEREST of the team. Once we are HEALTHY we will be alright. We were CLOSE to making some deals but we LIKE OUR TEAM. Hope to see you all against the Wizards in a few days.
JaeEvolution
March 15th, 2012
3:05 pm
Why couldn’t we at least get a pick for Hinrich? Nothing? Our depth is T-Mac, Stackhouse, and Dampier…amazing.
JJ
March 15th, 2012
3:07 pm
And where the heck has MC been anyway? I figured he’d at least be online chattin with us??
joeygt1
March 15th, 2012
3:07 pm
hawks are a good team but need the right peice to be championship conteneder..and our gm and ownership does nothing to improve the team…its so frustrating…being a hawks…fire rick sund and the asg…
Rick Sund
March 15th, 2012
3:07 pm
Maybe many of you fans EXPECT TOO MUCH. We have an older team, but our core pretty young. Why can’t you all be like the blogger “CraZy”. He is SATISFIED with the fact that we will make the SECOND ROUND. Our goal for this hawks team each year is IMPROVEMENT. Championships aren’t won over night. You have to continue to BUILD.
TMACfan
March 15th, 2012
3:07 pm
@ Rick Sund
FUUUUUCKKKK YOOOOUUUUUU!!!!!!!!
CrαZy
March 15th, 2012
3:07 pm
I know that management does not care what we the fans say, but do you know if they even know what we are saying?
And thank GOD that they don’t care or listen!! If they did we would be trading players after every game.
Astro Joe
March 15th, 2012
3:07 pm
Lakers get Jordan Hill for Fisher.
BTW, where are Rasheed Wallace and Fesenko?
SteveW
March 15th, 2012
3:09 pm
Jordan Hill for D Fish. As Sekou says, LA’s in it to win it. And they just might.
TMACfan
March 15th, 2012
3:09 pm
Hawks, who have a toe into tax territory, unable to pull off deal to get under, league sources say. May move a pick for cash to pay bill. – Ken Berger
WOWOWOWOWOW
WTF WTF WTF WTF
FIRE SUND!!!! FIRED ASG!!!!!!!!
Rick Sund
March 15th, 2012
3:09 pm
Hinrich is a SOLID point guard and moving at this point wouldn’t be in the BEST INTEREST of this team. He is TEACHING Teague how to play the point guard position. Hinrich is Teagues MENTOR. We thought about moving Marvin, but we felt that he has so many INTANGIBLES that he brings to the team that with PATIENCE he will DEVELOP INTO A SUPERSTAR like Josh.
STRETCH
March 15th, 2012
3:09 pm
Rick Sund,
CraZy is writing us from Sunds bedroom at this moment!
Big Lou
March 15th, 2012
3:10 pm
Talking Dead!
drmaryb, glowing radiance, Yes. That is why I thought it must be an airborne virus that everyone is already infected with. They only change when they’re killed–without their brain being spewed out.
Could be. Yet, I think it would make a better ending if they were alive. It will give an opportunity to introduce new characters since many of current ones are going to get their flesh ripped apart.
I agree that something will occur in the basement, but I do not believe they will trap them in the barn. Things will happen to fast for them to come up with a plan, and when everything seems hopeless, the other camp comes to save them.
Those meat sacks were moving pretty fast though from the forest. Maybe they have been working out? Also, why is there a Hawks game on Sunday? Now I have to wait till 11 again, sh!t!
Can’t wait!
JaeEvolution
March 15th, 2012
3:10 pm
“Hawks, who have a toe into tax territory, unable to pull off deal to get under, league sources say. May move a pick for cash to pay bill.”
This team is so sad and have no will to win.
O'Brien
March 15th, 2012
3:10 pm
Rockets already have Scola, Dalembert, Patrick Patterson, and Jordan Hill. And they Still trade for Camby?
CrαZy
March 15th, 2012
3:10 pm
F off Ricky…. I said you need to make a move to get better or make a move to build for the future. You dam# A@#Clown!!! I’ll always be a Hawks fan, but I just won’t buy tickets untill they get new owners!!!
TMACfan
March 15th, 2012
3:11 pm
Hawks trade 2nd round pick to Warriors for cash
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JJ
March 15th, 2012
3:11 pm
Rick Sund
March 15th, 2012
3:04 pm
This team has a great deal of UPSIDE and we didn’t feel making a move would be in the BEST INTEREST of the team. Once we are HEALTHY we will be alright. We were CLOSE to making some deals but we LIKE OUR TEAM. Hope to see you all against the Wizards in a few days.
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Sad thing is it sounds alot like something he or the asg would say. And that’s the problem. You like the TEAM? Upside? What a sad, sad, commentary….
Ray
March 15th, 2012
3:11 pm
@ SteveW
So they end up with a Jordan Hill and Ramon Sessions let go of D-Fisher plus got another younger player.
Yeah they at least won’t be swept at best, but championship bound no I’ll give that to OKC still at this moment.
JaeEvolution
March 15th, 2012
3:12 pm
TMAC was it the Suns pick or ours?
ryan
March 15th, 2012
3:12 pm
Man what a crappy week the Falcons don’t do anything and now the Hawks .
The Truth
March 15th, 2012
3:12 pm
Rhyme of Today
When the trading deadline has come and pass
Sund will publicly speak about the deal he almost had
He will say during the final hour how the deal got nick
But by then, Hawksville won’t really give a sh!t
As always, he will march to his positive beat
But this year, we will witness an even earlier Hawks playoff sweep
Astro Joe
March 15th, 2012
3:12 pm
Zach Klein @ZachKleinWSB Reply RetweetedRetweet
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FavoritedFavorite · Close Open Details Here is your #hawks move folks: They trade ‘12 2nd round pick to the Golden State Warriors in exchange for cash considerations
Retweeted by Lang Whitaker
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 15th, 2012
3:13 pm
AJ – I agree re: Marvin. He should be tired of the Atlanta, Ga hate media by now. Kirk really wants to stay put though.
Maybe these Hawks can stop faking injuries now. The pacers just put a dagger behind the arc to equalize the Hawks tie breaker.
Somebody just called Sund’s phone and “the white lady” at bell south is answering:
“doo doo doo doo … the number you have dialed has been temporarily disconnected … There is no further information about 1-800-Hawks.”
Big Lou
March 15th, 2012
3:13 pm
That Rick Sund dude has got to be a troll.
Don’t feed the troll!
Also, they won’t make the second round if they make a bottom seeding. Book it.
CrαZy
March 15th, 2012
3:13 pm
STRETCH…
I can’t stand the ASG or Rick the Dick… but, I’d never stop being a Hawks fan and become a bandwagon fan of another team. I’ll just stop paying for tickets and merchandise until the team gets sold or starts making better decisions.
TMACfan
March 15th, 2012
3:13 pm
ATTENTION ALL LEGIT HAWKS FANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE MUST MEET UP TO BLOWUP RICK SUNDS HOUSE!
WHEN AND WHAT TIME?
TMACfan
March 15th, 2012
3:14 pm
@JaeEvolution I think it was ours.
Rick Sund
March 15th, 2012
3:14 pm
@TMACfan and joeygt1
For the record we are a CONTENDER and have ALL THE PIECES WHEN HEALTHY to win a CHAMPIONSHIP. Larry is becoming a great IN GAME MANAGER. When we get HORFORD back, we will be better. Many of you fans are UNGRATEFUL. As my boss said we are 1 of 3 teams to advance past the 1ST ROUND the past three years. That shows PROGRESS. Elite teams are made during the REGULAR SEASON not the PLAYOFFS.
Micheal
March 15th, 2012
3:15 pm
That is the reason why the Hawks isnt like in this city. Stuff like this.
Astro Joe
March 15th, 2012
3:16 pm
Ken Berger @KBergCBS Reply RetweetedRetweet
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FavoritedFavorite · Close Open Details Indeed, Hawks send second-round pick — lesser of theirs or Phoenix’s — to Golden State for cash. Luxury tax move for Atlanta
Melvin
March 15th, 2012
3:16 pm
LOL, this team owners are broke. Trading another pick for cash. Why the heck would you give Joe Johnson the riches contract in the league if you cant afford to build a team around him…
Rick Sund
March 15th, 2012
3:16 pm
Big Lou, you should appreciate the fact that we will MAKE THE SECOND ROUND. TMACfan why would you want to do such a thing to me. I have built this town a WINNER. Look at our record over past 4 years.
Micheal
March 15th, 2012
3:18 pm
@Rick Sund
Elite team isnt 4 over .500 with a losing record on the road, against +.500 teams and current 7 other teams in the playoff hunt right now. Go and retired Rick Sund
Rick Sund
March 15th, 2012
3:18 pm
We gave him the contract Melvin because he is SUPERSTAR. He has made 6 straight ALLSTAR GAMES.
CrαZy
March 15th, 2012
3:19 pm
We will not make the 2nd round!!
Slimjr
March 15th, 2012
3:19 pm
Stretch I’m with you..Looking to follow another team would not be a bad idea…
T plus 19 mins Houston…We are experiencing engine failure switch to backups? Backups? Yep…
Knicks, San Antonio, Chicago…Nice Backups basketball fans
Lacsho
March 15th, 2012
3:19 pm
We made a move, from Realgm:
Warriors Buy Second Round Pick From Hawks
Rick Sund
March 15th, 2012
3:20 pm
Michael maybe you should look at our INJURIES and for the record we are 5 games over .500 for the season. Every season has PEAKS AND VALLEYS. Rome wasn’t built overnight.
Lacsho
March 15th, 2012
3:20 pm
Wow we might when the second round of the playoffs….LMAO….BASG sucks!!!!
Slimjr
March 15th, 2012
3:21 pm
Chicago in 5, Miami in 4, Philly in 6…
1st rd exit this year…..try to spin that one Gearon Jr.
Wabe
March 15th, 2012
3:22 pm
Man, if the Lakers can find a way to dump Derrick Fisher…
There’s gotta be some dumbarse out there that’ll take Marvin Williams…
Rick Sund
March 15th, 2012
3:23 pm
@Slimjr
Why can’t you be SATISFIED with this team the way it is constructed. We are the most SUCCESSFUL MEN”S PLAYOFF TEAM in Atlanta. You will see a difference when we get MARVIN and VLAD RAD back. Drew has done a PHENOMENAL job with this team this year. They have shown much PHYSICALITY against bigger teams.
Ray
March 15th, 2012
3:23 pm
WOW HOORAY WE JUST GAVE A DRAFT PICK FOR CASH ASKG IS A FRAUD AND JUST PLAIN IDIOTS!
Never mind @ TMACfan I’m going Saturday at around 5:00 a.m. best time no one is ever up at that time
Micheal
March 15th, 2012
3:24 pm
But we been at this for almost 6 years now, and dont give me that injury crap either. If Derrick Rose is injured and Bulls is still trucking on with the best record in the East. I think its time to invest in a new team. Because this isnt worth it anymore.
bigdave
March 15th, 2012
3:24 pm
lol.
Rick Sund
March 15th, 2012
3:24 pm
If my bosses are so cheap, how is it that we have the 8th highest payroll. Remember only ONE TEAM can win the championship. We like to keep our team IN THE HUNT.
CrαZy
March 15th, 2012
3:25 pm
Some of you act like you really expected something big to happen? Did you forget that Rick Sund is the GM and ASG are the owners? Nothing good will happen here until the ASG finally sells the team. This is an NBA town with a NBA team with Minor league owners. We need someone who wants to own the team as his hobby… a pure love for basketball and drive to win at all costs. Chiat, I forgot we’re ATL fans we don’t get lucky enough to have more than 1 owner in town like that!!
O'Brien
March 15th, 2012
3:26 pm
dmb,
I remember when Marvin had his surgery, LD (and MC too, I think) was very complimentary about how Marvin looked better and was playing better. But as some of us predicted, his surgery would not stop him from being clumsy. And being clumsy leads to his stumbling, bumbling, fumbling, and getting knocked around (and blocked) by other players. So no surprise, he is banged up again.
Rick has not done a good job of asset management, so the Hawks will be left out of trade deadline deals (imo).
Is anyone surprised by the ASG selling another pick for cash to help pay LT bill (assuming the rumor is true)? LD and the players all have their faults, but the problem starts at the top. ASG.
Selling a second round pick isnt a big deal to us anyway, because Hawks dont know how to choose and develop good second round picks SMH.
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 15th, 2012
3:26 pm
Its all about the Benjamins baby!
Ray
March 15th, 2012
3:26 pm
@ RICK SUND
STFU AND GTFO You’ve never been a good GM wherever you’ve been just got lucky with some draft picks.
STRETCH
March 15th, 2012
3:26 pm
Ok, somebody tell me something.
They made luxury tax move…but for what? Im clueless.
tyger
March 15th, 2012
3:27 pm
Hawks blockbuster:
Hawks trade 2012 2nd rd. pick to Warriors for cash…
you cant make this stuff up…
Sautee
March 15th, 2012
3:27 pm
Ka-Boom just went Ka-fizzle. Typical ASKG.
Standing pat on three deuces, like it’s a Royal Flush. SMGDH
Rick Sund
March 15th, 2012
3:27 pm
Michael it took Mark Cuban longer than that to win a championship with Dallas. Remember the goal is to IMPROVE each year. Losing HORFORD has really hurt us. We have been TRUCKING ALONG without Al and Joe. Now the schedule will be in our FAVOR the next few weeks. Joe has done a good job stepping up. This team is at a level that WOODY COULD HAVE EVER DREAMED.
Slimjr
March 15th, 2012
3:30 pm
Micheal, do you realize the Hawks have never part took in an ECF in almost 4.5 decades..That is beyond RETARDED….
No words can express that this has to be the or one of the most dysfunctional organizations in All of pro-sports…
It cant be an accident… Chit on this Franchise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I dont live down there so CHIT on them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Micheal
March 15th, 2012
3:30 pm
Somebody please start up a perition or something like that for a new owners to come to save the Hawks (Keep the Hawks in Atlanta) and Braves. We fans cant do this any more.
hawkfan
March 15th, 2012
3:30 pm
wow lakers finally trade away derek fisher to rockets, at least they are trying to get better, hawks take some notes
Rick Sund
March 15th, 2012
3:31 pm
Well Ray we have need to stand pat because we didn’t want to TWEAK THE CHEMISTRY with this team. We made a deal that will help us IN THE FUTURE when it comes to getting some more players. By getting CASH we will be able to save money so we can perhaps KEEP THE CORE INTACT. Marvin will be unrestricted in a few years and with his UPSIDE and ATHLETICISM we will be able to sign him to an EXTENSION./
tyger
March 15th, 2012
3:31 pm
And you wonder why Billy Knight walked away…
City Of Atlanta Still Recovering From William Tecumseh Sherman
March 15th, 2012
3:32 pm
lol they waste draft picks anyways
Rick Sund
March 15th, 2012
3:33 pm
You fans have to UNDERSTAND that it TAKES TIME to build a CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM. Hopefully as TEAGUE IMPROVES and we keep our DEEP BENCH, you will see this team FLOURISH. We just have to get HEALTHY.
Slimjr
March 15th, 2012
3:33 pm
Braves have not won a playoff series in 11 years! They suck worse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And they are paying a 40 year old 14 million? He’d be lucky to play in 40 games the way his body is breaking down…
tyger
March 15th, 2012
3:33 pm
My favorite Hawks game activity…
…counting the empty seats!!!
ryan
March 15th, 2012
3:34 pm
Why do we even have sports teams in Atlanta pathetic .
Ray
March 15th, 2012
3:34 pm
Regardless of anything
We now know that Atlanta Hawks aren’t in to win a championship if all they do is send a 2nd round pick to GS for some Cash.
Even if Hawks win a championship or just get to the East Finals I still might hang it up on them because this team won’t be healthy, and Josh Smith is leaving come the next offseason not his one, but the next one.
Sautee
March 15th, 2012
3:34 pm
Facts for Rick Sund:
Second round record since 2000: 2-12. That’s a winning % of.143
That’s not elite. Spin it however you want. That’s NOT elite.
Melvin
March 15th, 2012
3:35 pm
Where is all that big talk from the owners about not being scared to pay the luxury tax…. They couldn’t even wait until the draft before selling their pick….LOL
City Of Atlanta Still Recovering From William Tecumseh Sherman
March 15th, 2012
3:36 pm
co-signs slimjr
hawkfan
March 15th, 2012
3:36 pm
and now nick young to clippers, smh
Rick Sund
March 15th, 2012
3:37 pm
@Slimjr and Michael,
We are sorry that you feel this way because we want your support. Hopefully if you just wait until everything plays out. Like I said earlier MAYBE YOU FANS EXPECT TOO MUCH. This is still LEARNING HOW TO WIN, but as each season goes by we are starting to see that KILLER INSTINCT starting to EVOLVE. Joe has to be a TOP 40 CLOSER at the END OF GAMES. Just think if we had made a FEW FT here and there we would be a little better.
Michael Cunningham
March 15th, 2012
3:38 pm
new blog posted. shutting down this thread.
TMACfan
March 15th, 2012
3:39 pm
The owners shove some money in their pockets before they try to sell the team again this offseason. Somebody buy this team please.
- Peachtree Hoops
Sautee
March 15th, 2012
3:39 pm
“Joe has to be a TOP 40 CLOSER at the END OF GAMES.”
LOL, and that’s GOT to be worth $18M, right?
JaeEvolution
March 15th, 2012
3:39 pm
Wow the Clippers steal Nick Young for nothing and we are tap dancing on the luxury tax line.
Slimjr
March 15th, 2012
3:39 pm
The Fal-cons have not won a PLAYOFF GAME since 2004..
And this year they did something I never seen done in watching NFL playoff Football?
The Offense with a F_______________king 72 million Dollar QB lays a Z-E-R-0 on the F____________________-king score board………
Chit on them too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
I’m done! Whew….Back to your normally scheduled programing……Whew……
Rick Sund
March 15th, 2012
3:40 pm
@Sautee,
First off Sautee, you have to UNDERSTAND that being ELITE is what you do in the REGULAR SEASON not the PLAYOFFS, so that KILLS your argument right there. Sautee, you have to understand that it is a LEARNING PROCESS when it comes to DEVELOPING OUR PLAYERS.
CrαZy
March 15th, 2012
3:41 pm
And they are paying a 40 year old 14 million? He’d be lucky to play in 40 games the way his body is breaking down
And they’re paying barely nothing for a bunch of other young stud players. That’s just the way the finances in baseball works.
Rick Sund
March 15th, 2012
3:42 pm
Remember the Celtic series Sautee. You saw what Joe did then.
Rick Sund
March 15th, 2012
3:45 pm
@Sautee,
First off Sautee, you have to UNDERSTAND that being ELITE is what you do in the REGULAR SEASON not the PLAYOFFS, so that KILLS your argument right there. Sautee, you have to understand that it is a LEARNING PROCESS when it comes to DEVELOPING OUR PLAYERS.
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 15th, 2012
3:52 pm
Net Gain or Loss?
I guess losing the Thrashers also equals a loss in Arena revenues as well. The 8 feces throwing orangutans can’t even afford to keep the scoreboards lit up, so, how can they fire up a fan base. But hey, we can always go down there and support the brand new 2M full service RED Restaurant and buy some beef steaks! (she smirks)
Now we clearly see the true management goal all along was to “get money” one way or another. It was NEVER to win a championship.
Why trade away a low dollar rookie 2nd round pick, when you don’t even know what that pick was gonna’ be? They could have done that an hour before the draft pick came up on draft night. This un-vetted broke azz ownership group can’t scrape up a few dollars between the 8 of them? What a sad documentary to behold.
How can these players even stay motivated when they already know the guillotine is being sharpened in round 2 for an early decapitation. Well cohorts, at least we have a game plan and a Dwight stopper on our bench, or shall I saw on the trainers rehab table. The only bews MC tweeted was Jason is cleared for contact.
We may as well logg off here now and watch some college ball to see the players we will never draft nor develop.
If you can’t afford top build a NBA roster, then get the hella outa the business and just leave us alone!
tyger
March 15th, 2012
4:00 pm
Nene to Wizards
Javale McGhee, Turiaf, Nick Young to Nuggets
Nene was available???
STRETCH
March 15th, 2012
4:03 pm
Adrian Wojnarowski: As part of three-team deal, Nene goes to the Wizards, JaVale McGee to Denver and Nick Young to Clippers, sources tell Y! Sports. Twitter
tyger
March 15th, 2012
4:08 pm
ASG must be really broke? Cash? Cash?
Kirk Hinrich’s $8M expiring worth more to them than a contributor?
drmaryb.[*_*].
March 15th, 2012
4:08 pm
Apparently, if you can find seven people and scrape up $5 and change, you can buy a:
NBA Franchise
NHL Franchise
A 99 yeal lease on a brand new arena
And, operate on the cheap – all the while, make money.
Welcome to America people, it’s the land of opportunity for SOME people.
tyger
March 15th, 2012
4:09 pm
Also means nobody wants Marvin, stuck with him 2 more years!!
Rick Sund
March 15th, 2012
6:10 pm
Marvin has UPSIDE. He goes no where!
doc
March 15th, 2012
7:20 pm
aj linsanity ended with melo
would actually like woody tomput the pieces together
wonder hw long the kedia will accept rebond and defend every night in the press room? chandler is what will make or break woody.
still surly on josh eh? even you got to admit he is on a roll not many hawks fans can remember. get over it and smile aj.
for you