Atlanta Hawks: Nuggets 118, Hawks 117 (OT)

Denver–There were series of gaffes, miscalculations and questionable strategy by the Hawks and an incredible 3-pointer from Danilo Gallinari, and yet the Hawks still had a chance to win with a play that was executed perfectly . . . right up until the point where Zaza Pachulia’s layup attempt bounced harmlessly off the rim.

  • “Just missed it,” Zaza said. “It was a great opportunity for me.”
  • He can get in line with Joe Johnson’s turnovers and forced iso Js, Jannero Pargo’s fumble, Kirk Hinrich’s missed free throws and shot-clock violation, Vladimir Radmanovic’s 0-for-4 on 3s. . . . and don’t forget those 11 dunks and layups the Hawks allowed in the first half.
  • Larry Drew said the final play was designed to free Zaza near the basket: “The execution was perfect. We executed. That was probably the best play we executed all night. ‘Z’ just missed a point-blank layup. But I told the guys it didn’t come down to that. That game was lost in the first half when we didn’t make a stand defensively and they basically had their way with us.”
  • Joe took the heat off Zaza and Kirk and put it on himself: “We don’t put this game on Zaza missing a layup or Kirk not making a free throw. I look at the stat sheet and I had five turnovers and probably three of those were at crucial times.”
  • Kirk: “It’s tough. I had a chance to win it. I made the hard one, the first one, and I missed the second. I’m very disappointed.”
  • Zaza: “We had so many opportunities, you know. I don’t think we were lucky today. Of course it’s not an excuse. I have to finish that. But if you think about it, the turnover we had over there off Pargo’s leg, Gallinari’s three, Kirk’s free throw and my layup. That’s four big things. We just weren’t lucky today. Again, that’s not an excuse and personally, me, I have to finish when I have that kind of opportunity. I take that blame on my shoulders.”
  • On the 3, Gallinari wasn’t even squared up when he received the pass. Joe and Josh Smith were all over him when he let it go. “I don’t know how he made it,” Joe said. “It was definitely a tough shot. He caught it kind of fading. But before that we couldn’t get big stops. They were either scoring or we were fouling.”
  • Drew: “He hit a tough shot. You couldn’t have defended it any better than that.”
  • Kirk: From my vantage point, I was boxing out under the basket. When he let it go, I thought, ‘There’s no way he will make that.’ And then the ball fell through the net into my hands.”
  • Another beastly line for Josh: 33 points on 23 shots, 13 rebounds, seven assists, two blocks and just one turnover. His tendency to try to set ballhandlers up for blocks when they drove contributed to some of those 11 dunks and layups but the perimeter D was atrocious.
  • Josh put the Hawks ahead with a sweet spin move after Drew went away from Iso-Joe. The Hawks missed him once he fouled out 2:46 into OT because he was setting up Joe and Kirk for open Js.
  • Joe put the Hawks ahead 117-1112 with a crafty move, keeping his dribble alive to thwart a double team and making a fadeaway J. But he missed on a forced iso J that led to two free throws for Nene and got bailed out on a forced drive when, after a long review, the refs decided the replay was inconclusive and the Hawks kept the ball.
  • Drew: “When we lost Josh, and then I couldn’t bring Marvin [Williams] back because he took the bang on the hip, I was going to ride Joe. I just tried to put him in a position where he could operate and we just surrounded him with shooters.”
  • The last play wasn’t Iso-Joe, though. “Going down the stretch we had opportunities that we just kind of let slip away,” Drew said.
  • Both Joe (34 points on 26 shots, 6/10 3FG) and Kirk (22 points on eight shots, 3/4 3FG, 5/6 FT) had great games that were marred by bad moments.
  • Marvin once again was aggressive early coming off the bench. It’s a role that seems to suit him.
  • Marvin came back in the game briefly late in the fourth quarter after he suffered the hip injury. It was his pass that Pargo bobbled off his knee. “He couldn’t move,” Drew said of Marvin. “I only used him at the end there just to be a passer on the out of bounds. I wanted to put him back in down the stretch and overtime but he couldn’t go. I had to use what I had.”
  • The Hawks said both Marvin and Willie Green (back, hamstring) will miss the game tomorrow at the Clippers. Tracy McGrady is expected to play after being held out on the first night of a back-to-back, to the Hawks will have 10 healthy bodies available.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

362 comments Add your comment

@DanWeiner

March 14th, 2012
1:33 am

Only one way to get over the stink of this one: everyone has to play pi**ed off tomorrow night in LA.

Najeh Davenpoop

March 14th, 2012
1:35 am

“But I told the guys it didn’t come down to that. That game was lost in the first half when we didn’t make a stand defensively and they basically had their way with us.””

Sure LD. It didn’t come down to you going iso-Joe in the last 3 minutes instead of continuing to ride Josh or anything. It didn’t come down to putting Pargo in the game to catch an inbounds pass or anything.

Dumbass.

Props to him for finally getting T’d up though. About damn time.

TMACfan

March 14th, 2012
1:36 am

Najeh Davenpoop

March 14th, 2012
1:36 am

Whether or not they have a letdown game tomorrow will say a lot about their mental toughness. The Clippers are beatable. Hopefully Ivan is back soon. Could have used him tonight, considering Vlad’s -11.

vava74

March 14th, 2012
1:41 am

Another game in which Smoove beasted.

Another game on a difficult court where we were competitive.

Where is the &@%#$¥ doubt that Josh has flourished? And that the Hawks are a better team with him leading?

TMACfan

March 14th, 2012
1:43 am

TMAC is back!!

drmaryb.[*_*].

March 14th, 2012
1:48 am

“Don’t Fake the Funk – On a Nasty Dunk!” -The Big Aristotle-

Mark

March 14th, 2012
1:58 am

This team is full of Chumps!

Mark

March 14th, 2012
1:59 am

Why is TMAC being held out of so many games? We could have used him tonight. I hate this STUPID TEAM!

vava74

March 14th, 2012
2:00 am

drmaryb,

Jamal was 2/7 in 22 minutes in Indiana tonight with a +- of -26, the worst in his team.

We don’t need Jamal to win these games, we need people back from injury and leave and we need LD to stop going ISO-Joe.

In the absence of Josh, LD should have gone with T-Mac on the floor.

What freaking fool who is already undermanned sticks to his plan to not use T-Mac after losing two more players to injury and foul out???

Freaking unbelievable.

Mark

March 14th, 2012
2:05 am

Maybe LD will get hurt and miss some time. I put Marvin in just to pass. Vlad Rad at the four when you need rebounds and people to box out, why not Dampier. ISO Joes down the stretch. Maybe Woody wasn’t so bad after all. Could you imagine if we had a Larry Brown or Doc Rivers. No Heart, No Brains and No Testicular Fortitude for this IDIOTIC TEAM!

Mark

March 14th, 2012
2:07 am

Dang this team SUCKS! I can’t stand this Playing not lose nonsense. Holding TMAC out! We need wins and this STUPID COACH wants to REST PLAYERS! Play them until they get hurt.

drmaryb.[*_*].

March 14th, 2012
2:12 am

vava-VOOM! Thanks for the Jamal stats line – he sux and has puppy-roni breath! smh

Then, go get Kaman for the play offs! The window is closing fast. Marvin probably injured himself falling down.

Mark

March 14th, 2012
2:12 am

I wish this team just TOTALLY SUCKED because MEDIOCRITY is worse because it teases the fan bas into thinking we have a shot. This team is CURSED. We had an owner and they ruled that he didn’t have enough money…WHY! As I stated earlier, The Hawks have TALENT and maybe if they had a LITTLE HEART and SOME BRAINS they could advance to the Eastern Conference Finals. Our problems start with CLUELESS and PATHETIC COACHING ( that starts players like Marvin and Kurt Hinrich) and BAD FREE THROW SHOOTING and ILL ADVISED SHOTS by SELF PROCLAIMED ALLSTARS that feel “they should have been marketed better” so they could make the allstar game. The stats should also take into account 120 million dollar SO CALLED SUPERSTARS that hold the ball too long and can’t make BIG SHOTS when you need them. Secondly, LOUSY OWNERS that feel SUCCESS is being one of three teams to ADVANCE TO THE SECOND ROUND over the past three years (Right Michael Gearon) and SPINELESS General Managers that offers BAD CONTRACTS and gives away draft picks all in order to keep the team COMPETITIVE and loves the word UPSIDE. But hey at least they will MAKE THE PLAYOFFS!

soullrenaissance

March 14th, 2012
2:15 am

Marvin will be out and Willie Green is out so TMac must play. LD is a bum. Sund is a beach bum.
Golden State makes moves our FO twiddles thumbs. Kaman would have been nice tonight. He would have more likely not have botched that lay-up.

Spyro

March 14th, 2012
2:17 am

WTF does T-Mac have to do to get some playing time? Jeez…

soullrenaissance

March 14th, 2012
2:20 am

LD and Sund will shout that “Injured players” excuse until the cows come home. That is the only thing that could save their jobs. Be careful what we ask for if LD gets fired – The Hawks may make a big splash and hire his assistant Lester Connor :)

vava74

March 14th, 2012
2:36 am

HawkEye

March 14th, 2012
2:36 am

As much as I hate to admit it, LD is right to an extent. They gave up a lot of points (especially in the paint) in the first half, but also this game is won if not for Iso heavy plays down the stretch of regulation, a Pargo turn, and a missed Kirk free-throw. Out of those three, two fall on the coach.

Buddy Grizzard

March 14th, 2012
3:24 am

“ASG: as always, quite a few days too late to come out and do their side of the job” – Vava74

Here was my response to that:

http://www.hoopinionblog.com/2012/03/hawks-ownership-plays-semantics-game.html

Buddy Grizzard

March 14th, 2012
3:35 am

“Surely we can get more than Kaman for JJ.” – SteveW

My trade proposal to send JJ to the Clips, Kaman to the Hawks and Mo Williams to the Hornets was all part of my master strategy for the Hawks to compete for championships:

http://www.hoopinionblog.com/2012/03/comparing-twilight-of-two-hawks-eras-by.html

Not only can we not get more than Kaman for Joe, we probably can’t get that much.

Buddy Grizzard

March 14th, 2012
3:45 am

Doesn’t look like the Clippers are a candidate to take on Joe’s contract:

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-clippers-fyi-20120314,0,375861.story

That leaves ORL.

Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde

March 14th, 2012
3:46 am

Big Ivan should be playing 20 minutes a game.

vava74

March 14th, 2012
3:53 am

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3834/gamelog;_ylt=Ai6jWiZ3KCKAgNOkMoiw0oACPaB4

Flourishing before our own eyes.

Who can still have any doubts that this should be – CLEARLY – Josh’s team?

drmaryb.[*_*].

March 14th, 2012
3:59 am

Hot Cakes!

Welcome to IHOP, where both sides of the pancakes taste the same. So go ahead and flip-flop them suckers.
__________

My response to BuddyG blog. Unfortunately, BuddyG it is impossible to make out those coded letters on a BBerry phone’s small screen. Presbyopia has caught up to my eyes. Why do they make it so hard to comment, is that feature necc.? LOL

Donte

March 14th, 2012
4:28 am

sund is a joke

Donte

March 14th, 2012
4:30 am

When is someone involved with the media going to stop being soft and stop asking sund these basic questions and being satisfied with his generic replies. What are his thoughts about the play of Marvin Williams? What does he think about the help we need on the boards???

Spyro

March 14th, 2012
4:33 am

Josh Smith’s numbers in March so far: 26.6 pts, 10.3 rebs, 3.6 asts, and 51% shooting on 21 shots. Whoever said that we need to run the offense through Smoove (vava?) looks to be right so far.

High-sider

March 14th, 2012
4:39 am

“Did I mention that Jamal Crawford is shooting 95% from the free throw line this year.” – Rod from C.P.

“Did I mention that Portland is out of the playoff picture this year?” – Buddy G

Did I mention that MCM aka “Sarge” [Nate McMillan] is a worse coach than LD? Did I mention that Zaza Pachulia aka Z-Pac[k] has no lift, no low post moves and no offensive skills? Did I mention that Z-Pac[k] is what he is – a backup center? Did I mention that you can’t count on Z-Pac[k] to make a big shot or a clutch bucket [basket] especially at the end of a game? Did I mention that Z-Pac[k] is just as bad as Marvin at finishing at the rim?

vava74

March 14th, 2012
4:53 am

High-sider,

Look at Jamal’s clutch stats THIS year:

http://www.82games.com/1112/CSORT11.HTM

Jamal is shooting .286 from the floor during the last 5 minutes of game and overtime when the game is close.

The much maligned JJ is shooting .476

Josh is shooting .475

MARVIN is shooting .438

How’s the weather inside Jamal’s jock??

vava74

March 14th, 2012
4:53 am

Sorry,

Josh is shooting .457

vava74

March 14th, 2012
4:55 am

Check as well the ± stats in the clutch:

Jamal is MINUS 11

JJ is PLUS 17

Josh is PLUS 21

MARVIN is PLUS 8

vava74

March 14th, 2012
4:57 am

Correction:

Jamal is MINUS 8

MARVIN is PLUS 9

vava74

March 14th, 2012
4:57 am

Teague is PLUS 25

Buddy Grizzard

March 14th, 2012
4:59 am

Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde

March 14th, 2012
3:46 am

Big Ivan should be playing 20 minutes a game.

High-sider

March 14th, 2012
6:01 am

Just Joe

March 14th, 2012
6:05 am

Dwight saying “I want to finish the year here”, should make it official for ORL. He has no interest in being there next year. Tough spot for the team to be in. Dwight wants it his way. He knows if he goes to NJ right now, that he’s just going through the motions for the rest of the year. He’d rather stay and compete in the playoffs, and then walk this Summer and leave his team with a S&T as its only compensation.

NJ has to know this as well. I wouldn’t be surprised if NJ came after Josh right at the deadline. They are rumored to be trying to clear more salary (Farmar, Petro & Houston pick for Diaw). If they make that move and then offer a package like Morrow, Lopez, Humphries, S. Williams and their own pick for Josh & Hinrich, then they’d be sitting there with Brooks, James, Josh, and the bird rights to D Williams going in to the offseason. A Williams, Smith, and Howard core would be the most balanced big 3 in the league. Very similar to what the Lakers have with Kobe and their two 7 footers, only younger.

High-sider

March 14th, 2012
6:13 am

Your same link shows LaMarcus Aldridge, Portland’s All-Star and Crawford’s current teammate, has a +/- of -27 and -19. So what’s your point. Those +/- statistics are overrated and are indicative of team play moreso than individual play. LaMarcus made the All-Star team in a deep and talented Western Conference while Josh Smith, Marvin Williams and Jeff Teague did not make the All-Star team in a weaker and less talented Eastern Conference. BTW, I’m sure the weather is better inside Jamal’s jock as opposed to the weather up Josh’s butt since you’re probably having do deal with mudslides, thick tire tracks and a funky a$$ odor.

High-sider

March 14th, 2012
6:14 am

vava74,

Post @6:13am is directed to vava74.

terrell

March 14th, 2012
6:16 am

Morrow, Lopez, Humphries, and Williams for Josh and Hinrich? Count me in.

High-sider

March 14th, 2012
6:18 am

vava74,

Remember this. (You were probably the biggest cheerleader that night.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WhZwuCWq-0&feature=related

High-sider

March 14th, 2012
6:22 am

vava74,

Correction: “BTW, I’m sure the weather is better inside Jamal’s jock as opposed to the weather up Josh’s butt since you’re probably having [to*] deal with mudslides, thick tire tracks and a funky a$$ odor.”

northcyde

March 14th, 2012
6:37 am

SMH . . . still defending the “Roller Coaster”

High-sider

March 14th, 2012
6:42 am

vava74,

I don’t give a damn what those “clutch +/- statistics” show. If you honestly feel that Josh Smith, Joe Johnson, Marvin Williams and Jeff Teague are more clutch than Jamal Crawford, then you are a damn fool. I think I’ll start callin’ you a “some dumb, smart, pseudo-intelligent MF.”

High-sider

March 14th, 2012
6:48 am

northcyde,

“SMH . . . still defending the “Roller Coaster”” – northcyde

At the end of the day, I bet I will have more credibility defending Jamal Crawford than you will have defending Marvin “Howard the Duck” Williams. Marvin Williams looks like Daffy Duck with his beak shot off.

Buddy Grizzard

March 14th, 2012
6:59 am

vava74

March 14th, 2012
7:00 am

High-sider,

Jamal – shooting .286 from the floor in clutch time THIS year.

LAST YEAR:

The whole season – he shot .333 in the clutch

http://www.82games.com/1011/CSORT11.HTM

I do not deny that Jamal had his moments and that he had a very good series against ORL (5 out 6 games), but you will not convince ANYONE in the league that he is half as good as you think he is.

He only got a 5 million per contract with POR and he is already in the trading block.

ROLLER COASTER

Fun & Unreliable

High-sider

March 14th, 2012
7:01 am

northcyde,

BTW, Six Flags tried to have a Marvin Williams-themed ride but they had to scrap it [the ride] because it kept disappearing and nobody could find it.

vava74

March 14th, 2012
7:09 am

The weather inside Josh’s jock is fine thank you.

Here are Smoove’s stats for the month of March:

March G7 mpg37:12 FG10.7 FGA21.0 FG%51.0 3pt1.1 3ptA2.9 3P%40.0 FT4.0 FTA6.1 FT%65.1 OReb2.4 DReb7.9 Rpg10.3 Apg3.6 To2.1 Stl1.3 Blk1.9 FL3.9 PPG26.6

In 4 wins and 3 losses – with the 3 losses coming with a total point differential of 5 points

The weather is indeed fine over here!!!

High-sider

March 14th, 2012
7:10 am

vava74,

“do not deny that Jamal had his moments and that he had a very good series against ORL (5 out 6 games), but you will not convince ANYONE in the league that he is half as good as you think he is.

He only got a 5 million per contract with POR and he is already in the trading block.

ROLLER COASTER

Fun & Unreliable” – vava74

Jamal is a whole lot better than what you think he is and he’s just a victim of the system with respect to his contract. Hedo Turkoglu, J.J. Redick, Marvin Williams and Luke Walton make more than Jamal Crawford and all of those players are far less valuable than Jamal Crawford. Much to your chagrin, conspiracies do exist and some players have been blackballed, blacklisted, scapegoated and phased out of the league [NBA].