Atlanta Hawks at Pistons: Game thread
Auburn Hills, Mich.–Joe Johnson returns to the starting lineup after missing six of the last seven games with left knee tendinitis. Joe had been working out daily. He got the go-ahead to play after a workout during today’s shootaround. “It feels great,” he said. “I don’t have any pain it so that’s the main thing. As the game goes on, that’s the only concern. We’ve got to test it.”
- As for the strength in the knee, Joe said: “Not to where I want it to be but from the last time I tried to play, 10 times better than that.”
- Willie Green will miss his fifth consecutive game. In addition to a sore back, Green said he tweaked a hamstring while working out today.
- Ivan Johnson is to leave the team after the game because of a death in the family. He’s expected to return for the game at Sacramento Sunday.
- After an intense game against the Heat, the Hawks face a Pistons team that’s still last in the Central Division behind Cleveland in spite of showing signs of life since the start of February. It will be interesting to see if the Hawks are as spirited against a struggling opponent as they were at Miami.
- Larry Drew: “You say struggling but this team has won 9 of its last 15. They’ve got some healthy bodies back, they have been playing well. They are coming off a big win against the Lakers, which they have to be feeling good about. It’s always a physical game when we play this team. That’s one thing we have emphasized with our players. This may be the most physical games of this road trip and that’s the mindset you have to have going into this game.”
- Pistons forward Charlie Villaneuva (ankle) is expected to play for the first time since Jan. 4.
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Joe "Big Contract" Johnson
March 9th, 2012
7:10 pm
First….
Joe "Big Contract" Johnson
March 9th, 2012
7:11 pm
This may be my last game playing with J-Smoove in a Hawks uniform tonight!
4evaNaDay
March 9th, 2012
7:12 pm
First
Macaroni Tony
March 9th, 2012
7:12 pm
Let’s go Hawks!!!!
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
7:13 pm
4th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Core Breach Captain!!!!!!
Ra'mon
March 9th, 2012
7:13 pm
FTPB..
Jlewis, if Josh has wanted to be traded since the beginning of LAST SEASON (over a year and a half ago) how could something that happened a month ago, be the cause of it? This isn’t Back II The Future Part 4. “Michael J Fox isn’t walking through that door buddy.” Josh wants to be traded because the team doesn’t want to compete for championships. Think about it, when was the last time the Hawks SIGNED a free agent for more than the vet minimum? Out of all the coaches available, when was the last time the Hawks hired an NBA coach with NBA HEAD COACHING EXPERIENCE? Then you have the owners who say they aren’t trying to sell the team, but every 15 months are rumored to be in negotiations for the team to be sold. This team is about a childhood dream (Gearon’s), not about championships.
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
7:14 pm
T minus 6 days, 4 hours, 46 mins till KaB__m
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
7:16 pm
Jettison the Core Gearon Jr! Aye Captain!
bigdave
March 9th, 2012
7:16 pm
Jerome: do you want to leave the Hawks to an NBA championship
Josh Smith: yes i do.
bigdave
March 9th, 2012
7:16 pm
*lead
ntrigue
March 9th, 2012
7:16 pm
Ball Movement bye bye heres comes ISO Joe…..And so many other things like Joe bringing ball up playing point when Teague is in the game dribling dribling dribbling……no more pushing the pace either….But dont worry Josh Smith Haters your king Joe Johnson is back!
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
7:17 pm
Josh just pulled off a picture perfect non-confirmation confirmation of his trade request. “I didn’t DIRECTLY ask for a trade…” yeah I think it’s pretty obvious what that means.
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
7:17 pm
Smoove is smoove Jerome! Yep…
BIG DOG
March 9th, 2012
7:17 pm
Trade Josh ASAP, you can’t keep kissing A$$.
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
7:18 pm
Also sounded like he thought some teammates, not just management, were satisfied with making the 2nd round.
KaBoom
bigdave
March 9th, 2012
7:18 pm
would be nice for Josh to throw up a triple double in the midst of trade speculation..
terrell
March 9th, 2012
7:18 pm
So why is he playing if his knee is “not where he wants it to be”?
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
7:19 pm
” I did not have blank with Monica” Yeah right Bill! Yea right JOSH!
James
March 9th, 2012
7:19 pm
“T minus 6 days, 4 hours, 46 mins till KaB__m”
Sounds like a lot of wishful thinking on your part. Don’t get your hopes up expecting Sund and the ASG to make any big moves.
bigdave
March 9th, 2012
7:20 pm
“Also sounded like he thought some teammates, not just management, were satisfied with making the 2nd round. ”
o yeeeea.. clearly.
terrell
March 9th, 2012
7:22 pm
Dont stop the ball movement Iso. And LD, for the love of God, dont pull Teague for Kirk at the 4 minute mark. Hell, put in Pargo if you just have to take Teague out to make yourself feel good or something. Clown.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
7:22 pm
Somehow LD manages to say “irregardless” every time I hear him talk. It’s like he tries to use that word in every interview.
Dept. Of Unintended Irony
March 9th, 2012
7:23 pm
“Also sounded like he thought some teammates, not just management, were satisfied with making the 2nd round.”
“KaBoom”
Co-freakin’ sign. But the ASKG lacks the requisite stones. They will do less than nothing and hide behind Horford’s injury. We are so screwed until ownership changes.
terrell
March 9th, 2012
7:23 pm
If Joe plays well, the knee looks great. If he struggles, I cant wait to hear all of the excuses from Bob, Nique, etc…
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
7:23 pm
C’mon ISO, help us forget about OSH..He’s had it, bye bye. The CAT IS OUT LE BAG….
Dept. Of Unintended Irony
March 9th, 2012
7:24 pm
And, no, that wasn’t irony, except for the pathetic situation we are currently in.
terrell
March 9th, 2012
7:26 pm
Big game from Marvin tonight. lol. They’ll probably put some 5 ft guard on him. .
BIG DOG
March 9th, 2012
7:27 pm
To much dam disraction going on, Hawks lose because of Josh, trade ASAP.
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
ntrigue
March 9th, 2012
7:27 pm
Teague will come out at the 4th min mark for Nick Van in street clothes! LD says he likes the matchup! LOL
Buddy Grizzard
March 9th, 2012
7:27 pm
http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-am-are-the-magic-open-to-moving-howard
Hawks’ sources denied that Smith was being actively shopped, but said that yesterday’s story has prompted more calls with Josh’s name attached. His name comes up a lot as teams try and poach real talent for the chips they do not want.
Rod
March 9th, 2012
7:27 pm
Good Luck Josh ATL never supported you now they will know don’t worry whatever they get for you will be trash anyway don’t go to Golden State though they are just like the Hawks go to Chicago or New York they are committed and show support Good Luck bro
ntrigue
March 9th, 2012
7:29 pm
Put Josh on the block and let him go ham….Joe should be 2nd option at this stage in career
TMACfan
March 9th, 2012
7:32 pm
Any news on TMAC?
Luke Cage
March 9th, 2012
7:32 pm
SWEET CHRISTMAS!!!
Blast
March 9th, 2012
7:35 pm
With Joe back, I’m really keen to see how the Hawks play. Will they move the ball or will Joe pound it? Will they run the offence thru Josh as they have been doing, or will Joe want to be the man? I can’t wait. This might be a telling game for Hawks on many levels.
hawksfancents95
March 9th, 2012
7:37 pm
hows it goin gang?
i think we should win by 8-10 tonight. joe needs to be our 2nd option and should come out before teague. i hate this josh trade rumor because we will not get anything good in return if we do trade him. i hope portland and LA trade talks for raymond felton break down and they give us a 1st and that trade exception for kirk; that should be the only trade we do unless somehow AL+JOE for Dwight happens.
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
7:37 pm
No Ivan Johnson!!!??? Joe Johnson is back to ISO it up????
It’s a trap!!!!
doc
March 9th, 2012
7:38 pm
that was dept unmasked responding ironically to his own post. ironically he cant just post without posting on something someone said, hence the follow up. nice to see your own feelings there dude.
Big Al "ALL NBA" Horford
March 9th, 2012
7:39 pm
Sup peeps, Big Al in the house
Hawkfan
March 9th, 2012
7:40 pm
How bout this for an idea? Hire a top notch Coach and bet Josh wants to stay. This is a pretty good team most nights despite bad ownership and the resigning of Marvin. Get behind them and let’s compete.
Big Al "ALL NBA" Horford
March 9th, 2012
7:41 pm
Josh is jealous of me, I’m the real heart and soul of the team, heck I’m ALL NBA, dude can’t scratch an All Star game
Blast
March 9th, 2012
7:42 pm
There u all hear it. Josh did not ask for a trade, he is gonna see this through.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
7:42 pm
Damn, that Pistons arena is EMPTY.
Luke Cage
March 9th, 2012
7:42 pm
Josh will not be traded this season, so no need to keep harping on it, plus Sund lacks the stones to get a good deal for him.
Hawkfan
March 9th, 2012
7:43 pm
LD looking sharp tonite. He might have actually been below ASG standards the other night with the tieless drunken look
Big Al "ALL NBA" Horford
March 9th, 2012
7:44 pm
Lucky basket
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
7:44 pm
Hopefully Joe plays defense. I could care less if he scores. Good start by Smith.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
7:45 pm
The Pistons apparently haven’t updated their in-game arena music since Chucky Atkins started at point guard for them.
bigdave
March 9th, 2012
7:45 pm
gorgeous pass Josh..
Luke Cage
March 9th, 2012
7:45 pm
Stuckey has been ballin lately
TMACfan
March 9th, 2012
7:45 pm
Look at this ball movement… Amazing…
jlewis
March 9th, 2012
7:46 pm
The Hawks were winning until Hinrich played more than Pargo and Radmon’s minutes went down. Josh is not a number one option, ISO Joe is long gone, MC brings that up to keep you guys fired up, be smart people, please.
Rod from College Park
March 9th, 2012
7:46 pm
Najeh,
Got any links for the game?
Luke Cage
March 9th, 2012
7:46 pm
Nice D thus far
Hawkfan
March 9th, 2012
7:46 pm
Quack
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
7:46 pm
So if Marvin is so good against the Pistons, maybe they want to trade for him? Hopefully?
Please try to keep your ‘Pistons should trade for Josh Smith’ scenarios under control as the Pistons host the Hawks « PistonPowered
March 9th, 2012
7:46 pm
[...] Hinrich Joe Johnson will return, according to Michael Cunningham of the Atlanta [...]
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
7:46 pm
doc
March 9th, 2012
7:38 pm
“that was dept unmasked responding ironically to his own post. ironically he cant just post without posting on something someone said, hence the follow up. nice to see your own feelings there dude.”
Nice one doc! Hehe
ntrigue
March 9th, 2012
7:47 pm
Like that we started off going to Josh in the post
bigdave
March 9th, 2012
7:47 pm
Joe deferring early .. fitting right in.
bigdave
March 9th, 2012
7:47 pm
launches and hits a 3 from my house.
Luke Cage
March 9th, 2012
7:47 pm
Whoa Joe
Hawkfan
March 9th, 2012
7:48 pm
We’re better with Joe. Don’t forget Kirk starts with Joe out. Just hope Kirk doesn’t screw up the 2nd team now
TMACfan
March 9th, 2012
7:48 pm
JJ…
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
7:48 pm
Rod, it won’t let me link, but go to firstrowsports dot eu, there’s a link up there.
Big Al "ALL NBA" Horford
March 9th, 2012
7:49 pm
Damn Zsa Zsa, cmon man
bk
March 9th, 2012
7:49 pm
tre bomb for all u joe haters
Ra'mon
March 9th, 2012
7:49 pm
Did Zaza just try to go between his legs? lol. That’s funny.
TMACfan
March 9th, 2012
7:49 pm
Silly Pachulia, Tricks are for kids.
Luke Cage
March 9th, 2012
7:49 pm
DEBO!!
bigdave
March 9th, 2012
7:49 pm
Damp talking sh!t cause LD chose Ivan..
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
7:49 pm
Refs being lame again. That was all ball.
Big Al "ALL NBA" Horford
March 9th, 2012
7:50 pm
Stupid foul, I woulda gotten it clean, what a clown
Ra'mon
March 9th, 2012
7:50 pm
ISO Kirk, lol.
bigdave
March 9th, 2012
7:50 pm
hell if he aint capable of dropping 25.
Big Al "ALL NBA" Horford
March 9th, 2012
7:50 pm
Josh Traveled, why is he such a hater
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
7:51 pm
Josh is playing like he wants to be traded.
Melvin
March 9th, 2012
7:51 pm
Nice start by the Hawks….
bigdave
March 9th, 2012
7:51 pm
this is how you play the game Josh.. keep it up
ntrigue
March 9th, 2012
7:51 pm
Looks like ownership told Drew to keep running offense thru Josh and let Joe be 2nd fiddle! I like im sure LD hates it!
Ra'mon
March 9th, 2012
7:51 pm
Look at Josh quitting on his team.
BIG DOG
March 9th, 2012
7:51 pm
IM SORRY JOSH, HAWKS MUST KEEP YOU.
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
Wabe
March 9th, 2012
7:52 pm
Hawks are ballin’…
Led by…
J.Smoove
TMACfan
March 9th, 2012
7:53 pm
Looks like the offense is running through Josh and the #1 guy, JJ as the #2.
Glad to see LD finally get his head out of his @ss for once.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
7:53 pm
A lot of bump and grind basketball in the Eastern Conference, according to Nique. I wonder if Bob thinks a lot of people commit reacharounds during those games.
terrell
March 9th, 2012
7:54 pm
Damn, they’re back to ignoring the pg again.
Big Al "ALL NBA" Horford
March 9th, 2012
7:54 pm
Josh going to get exposed when he leaves, thinks he the man, dude is a clown
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
7:54 pm
BIG IVAN
hawksfancents95
March 9th, 2012
7:54 pm
9-5!!!!!!
bigdave
March 9th, 2012
7:54 pm
Mercy!!
Luke Cage
March 9th, 2012
7:54 pm
DEBOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
7:55 pm
Lol! Debo!
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
7:55 pm
21 points halfway through the quarter for the Hawks.
terrell
March 9th, 2012
7:55 pm
And Marvin blows the layup.
City Of Atlanta Still Recovering From William Tecumseh Sherman
March 9th, 2012
7:55 pm
lmao of course marvin ended the streak
Rod from College Park
March 9th, 2012
7:55 pm
Thanks Najeh. First miss Marvin figures.
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
7:55 pm
Marvin got stuffed! Haha
Luke Cage
March 9th, 2012
7:56 pm
Damn pistons right there
Melvin
March 9th, 2012
7:56 pm
Its only fitting that Marvin missed the Hawks first shot of the night…LOL
terrell
March 9th, 2012
7:56 pm
TMac!
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
7:56 pm
Josh is playing D like he doesn’t want to pick up his 2nd foul.
Rod from College Park
March 9th, 2012
7:57 pm
I would love to get Maxiell.
TMACfan
March 9th, 2012
7:57 pm
TMAC is playing in the first quarter?!?!?!
Is LD coaching or am I dreaming?!?!?!
bigdave
March 9th, 2012
7:57 pm
pistons all paint.
City Of Atlanta Still Recovering From William Tecumseh Sherman
March 9th, 2012
7:57 pm
only a 3 point lead…should be up by 10
ntrigue
March 9th, 2012
7:57 pm
We didnt need a TO let them keep playing!
jlewis
March 9th, 2012
7:57 pm
Well Ramon, somebody lied, Josh said he didnt ask to be traded. You tell me the deal?
Luke Cage
March 9th, 2012
7:57 pm
Crazy game thus far
Sautee
March 9th, 2012
7:58 pm
Nice ball movement, but where is the D?
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
7:58 pm
The Pistons aren’t going to keep making those shots. Good offense by the Hawks.
TMACfan
March 9th, 2012
7:59 pm
Atlanta’s Ivan Johnson will leave the team on Saturday to attend the funeral services of a family member, but he’s expected to rejoin the team for Sunday’s game at Sacramento. – HawksPRGuy
ntrigue
March 9th, 2012
7:59 pm
I promise yall not coach Drews decision to run offense thru Josh!
Big Al "ALL NBA" Horford
March 9th, 2012
8:00 pm
When I get back in the playoffs, I WILL BE THE BOSS, Josh will be swinging from my jock afterwards, trust me
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
8:00 pm
Not sure why T-Mac and Ivan are not the first ones off the bench every game.
ntrigue
March 9th, 2012
8:01 pm
Teague is in pass the 4min mark I cant believe it!
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
8:01 pm
Just go up and dunk it Jeff.
hawksfancents95
March 9th, 2012
8:01 pm
i forgot ben gorden was even playing anymore
Luke Cage
March 9th, 2012
8:01 pm
Broadband acting up, ticks me off!!!
City Of Atlanta Still Recovering From William Tecumseh Sherman
March 9th, 2012
8:01 pm
teague wanted to pss
Ra'mon
March 9th, 2012
8:01 pm
I could see Josh saying something like “If you guys don’t want to win, or want to blame me for everything, then just trade me now”. I could see him saying something like that 18 months ago. I could see him telling LD or Sund that.
terrell
March 9th, 2012
8:01 pm
Teague out.
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
8:02 pm
Lol. Here comes the Kirk.
terrell
March 9th, 2012
8:02 pm
Captain in.
bigdave
March 9th, 2012
8:02 pm
thats a poor effort on the glass Josh.
Big Al "ALL NBA" Horford
March 9th, 2012
8:03 pm
HaHa Josh shoots stupid air ball, while a 27 yr old rook goes all net
Ra'mon
March 9th, 2012
8:03 pm
T-Mac is the BEST facilitator on the team. And LD has MARVIN GAYE WILLIAMS starting? Really?
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
8:03 pm
So far the Pistons arena DJ has played “Rollout”, “Crazy Train”, and “He Got Game”. If they are going to play songs from more than 10 years ago, might as well play some Biggie since it’s March 9.
Sautee
March 9th, 2012
8:03 pm
The next Hawk to block out Maxiell will be the first.
Ra'mon
March 9th, 2012
8:04 pm
You country strong when you can rip the ball from Ben Wallace. I wouldn’t let Ivan date my daughter, lol.
City Of Atlanta Still Recovering From William Tecumseh Sherman
March 9th, 2012
8:04 pm
lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
8:04 pm
Damien still thinks he plays for us.
terrell
March 9th, 2012
8:05 pm
lol @ Damien.
Luke Cage
March 9th, 2012
8:06 pm
had to go to a link, NBA Broadband needs to get checked out
Sautee
March 9th, 2012
8:06 pm
Joe seemed to be making a concerted effort to move the ball. Good to see.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
8:06 pm
Maybe even more shocking than Damien’s missed layup was that Nique actually criticized him when he committed the foul on the other end.
ntrigue
March 9th, 2012
8:07 pm
Teague should’ve dunked that one he missed its alright though I like the energy and ball movement! Trade rumor forced Larry to change some things!
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
8:07 pm
Different game than expected so far. There is zero defense on both sides…
Ra'mon
March 9th, 2012
8:08 pm
AJC should make you do email verification before being allowed to post on the blogs. That would clean up the entire site so much more.
Big Al "ALL NBA" Horford
March 9th, 2012
8:08 pm
Biggie like Pac overrated, they just media made legends.
Big Al "ALL NBA" Horford
March 9th, 2012
8:09 pm
Also like Josh Smith, overrated, but an underachiever, dude was scared to go to college, SAT’s of 12 will do that
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
8:09 pm
Wait, the Hawks got 3 rebounds TOTAL? That is pretty sad.
jlewis
March 9th, 2012
8:09 pm
Ramon:
MC said he re-interated his trade demand, thats not 18 months ago, so MC is embellishing or Josh saying that isnt quitting on his team? When they are winning, just like the kanard that JJ hogs the ball, not true.
Ra'mon
March 9th, 2012
8:09 pm
Stuckey throws down Kirk, and yet Kirk gets the foul?
ntrigue
March 9th, 2012
8:09 pm
Kirk No defense Hinrich!!!
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
8:09 pm
Let’s see if LD can fix the mismatch… or suck at coaching as always.
Luke Cage
March 9th, 2012
8:10 pm
Thought Kirk was a Defensive stopper???
bigdave
March 9th, 2012
8:10 pm
Bob.. stop making me look like a fantasy genius w/ the Stuckey pick.
City Of Atlanta Still Recovering From William Tecumseh Sherman
March 9th, 2012
8:10 pm
vlad defense…
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
8:10 pm
If you think Pac is overrated you must be judging him off posthumous material. “Me Against The World” is a classic.
Meanwhile Kirk gets abused by Stuckey. If there is any type of PG in the league that Kirk should be able to guard, it is players like Stuckey who use strength more than speed.
Luke Cage
March 9th, 2012
8:11 pm
Guess both teams ate some Wheaties today
yodaddybrother
March 9th, 2012
8:11 pm
Hawks aint got it tonight….everyone looks so tired
Ra'mon
March 9th, 2012
8:11 pm
Jlewis, MC said according to a SOURCE CLOSE TO JOSH. That’s not Josh. According to a source to Lebron, he was going to be a Knick, Bull, Cavalier, and even a Maverick. D12 came out and said he wanted to be traded. Iverson said he wanted to be traded. Even Kobe said on Stephen A Smith that he wanted to be traded. Melo said he wanted to be traded. When a player REALLY wants to be traded, they’ll say it for themselves, they won’t use a source.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
8:11 pm
Kirk for Damien + Maxiell
City Of Atlanta Still Recovering From William Tecumseh Sherman
March 9th, 2012
8:12 pm
kirk sucks ass
Runner-
March 9th, 2012
8:12 pm
Take Hinrich’s sorry ass out of the game
Big Al "ALL NBA" Horford
March 9th, 2012
8:12 pm
Pac is good, but all this greatest of all time crap, really
Ra'mon
March 9th, 2012
8:12 pm
Rod From CP, if you had to choose out of Kirk and Marvin, who would be your choice? lol
Buddy Grizzard
March 9th, 2012
8:12 pm
Najeh check out the D from Damien on the guy who replaced him in the Hawks lineup.
ntrigue
March 9th, 2012
8:12 pm
Hope we can trade Kirk for anything!
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
8:12 pm
Now Kirk gets burned by his old teammate Ben Gordon.
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
8:12 pm
Man. LD is a moron.
terrell
March 9th, 2012
8:12 pm
Lakers dont want Kirk. No way
Spyro
March 9th, 2012
8:13 pm
Huh, Hinrich and Vlad came in and we lost the lead. Color me surprised.
Buddy Grizzard
March 9th, 2012
8:13 pm
Kirk ball watching.
Luke Cage
March 9th, 2012
8:13 pm
Hawks are losing??? Should be up by 12 at least
STRETCH
March 9th, 2012
8:13 pm
From ESPN:
Some interesting thoughts:
5. Should the Atlanta Hawks buy or sell?
Herbert: Sell. The Hawks are pretty good, but there’s no way they’re beating Miami or Chicago in the playoffs. With Al Horford out for the rest of the regular season, it’s a good time to tank. Try to package Josh Smith with Marvin Williams or Zaza Pachulia, then exercise their amnesty rights on Joe Johnson in the summer and start over.
Lynch: Sell. With Kirk Hinrich reportedly on the market and Smith’s trade demands, the Hawks will be moving at least one player. Whether they can get real assets and build around Horford — while still having Johnson on the books — will determine how good they are going forward.
Nowell: Sell. The Hawks probably should unload Smith for some depth and size, but we’ve been saying this for years, right? I figure that, whether they buy or sell, they’ll be doing what they always do: treading water as a first-round team.
Varner: Buy. The Hawks should trade the edges of their roster, including Williams. Atlanta’s core of Smith-Johnson-Horford is enough to remain competitive in the East, but the team’s surrounding talent needs to change for the Hawks to overcome their constant honorable mention status.
Windhorst: If they can sell Johnson, then they must. The Hawks have scored wins over Orlando, Oklahoma City and Indiana without Johnson (and Horford) and nearly pulled off a win in Miami. Smith is blossoming, and Larry Drew is doing one of the best coaching jobs in the league right now. If they could somehow turn the biggest contract in the league into some supporting players who aren’t owed $100 million over the next five years, it could be huge for them.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
8:13 pm
Pac isn’t the greatest of all time but you are crazy if you don’t think he’s top 5. He’s got more than enough material to be top 5. I can understand saying Biggie is overrated, some of that is NY media hype, but I’d still put him up there.
City Of Atlanta Still Recovering From William Tecumseh Sherman
March 9th, 2012
8:14 pm
bench is playing really bad
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
8:14 pm
Funny thing is… if Teague had 2 fouls, he would be taken out the game. BS.
ntrigue
March 9th, 2012
8:14 pm
2nd unit not on tonite get Teague and Josh back in maybe even Marvin!
Luke Cage
March 9th, 2012
8:14 pm
Keep saying the more Kirk plays the worst his trade value becomes.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
8:15 pm
“check out the D from Damien on the guy who replaced him in the Hawks lineup.”
Yeah I know. The Hawks miss his perimeter D.
Kirk for Damien + Maxiell
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
8:16 pm
1. Big L
2. Biggie
3. Pac
4. Lupe Fiasco
5. Canibus
Big Al "ALL NBA" Horford
March 9th, 2012
8:16 pm
I’m more old school because I still rock “Paid In Full” in my ride, loves me some Rakim. I give Pac a top 5 mark though.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
8:17 pm
Canibus? haha
Ra'mon
March 9th, 2012
8:17 pm
Kirk should be playing at the YMCA on Johnson Ferry Rd, not at the Palace.
drmaryb.[A_A].
March 9th, 2012
8:17 pm
KaBoom!
Is that, that purple stuff? LOL
Pargo is a little off with his shot tonight.
ntrigue
March 9th, 2012
8:17 pm
rather have Stack in then hinrich!
Sautee
March 9th, 2012
8:17 pm
Interesting that Windhorst thinks LD is doing one of the best coaching jobs in the league. He must not read this blog, LOL.
Big Al "ALL NBA" Horford
March 9th, 2012
8:18 pm
Lupe & Can I Bust, not in top 25
ntrigue
March 9th, 2012
8:19 pm
see this is where Teague should be back in too!
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
8:19 pm
Pargo shooting 53% from 3333333333333333
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
8:20 pm
Are you talking about lyrics are popularity?
Canibus and Lupe has metaphors for days. You need to look up their words to even get half of them. Get real.
ntrigue
March 9th, 2012
8:20 pm
Ill trade Kirk for an extra cheerleader at this point!
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
8:20 pm
Or*
northcyde
March 9th, 2012
8:21 pm
Crickets when Marvin makes a play. Armageddon when he doesn’t.
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
8:21 pm
Josh for Stephanie Ready
drmaryb.[A_A].
March 9th, 2012
8:22 pm
Palace is empty! The Motor City is struggling in this down job market, they’ll be back soon. They got Obama looking out for the folks in the auto industry. We can’t hate on that crowd.
My Hawks looking inspired and sharp. That trade rumor got everybody on their heels. Josh just need some hugs, that’s all.
jlewis
March 9th, 2012
8:22 pm
Yall finally figuring it out, the problems with the Hawks in the past was no bench, JJ begged them to get veterans in here. The problem this season has been the Coach, not knowing how to distribute minutes and playing Hinrich at the expense of the bench. The hawks with a bench can beat any team in the East, dont believe the bs.
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
8:22 pm
Waive Marvin
ntrigue
March 9th, 2012
8:22 pm
Bout time Kirk!
Big Al "ALL NBA" Horford
March 9th, 2012
8:23 pm
1. Rakim
2. Nas
3. Big Daddy Kane
4. Pac
5.KRS-One
Thats a top 5.
drmaryb.[A_A].
March 9th, 2012
8:23 pm
Like MC said, “Shoot more threes!”
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
8:23 pm
Pistons are shooting good. It won’t last.
Luke Cage
March 9th, 2012
8:24 pm
Man I only look at the Bobcats just to see my baby Stephanie Ready.
ntrigue
March 9th, 2012
8:24 pm
Why is teague always last too come back in? Marvin sucks!
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
8:24 pm
Kirk has played a lot better in the last few minutes after initially looking like sh-t.
terrell
March 9th, 2012
8:24 pm
Marvin is the WORST player in the NBA.
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
8:24 pm
What did Marvin just throw up!!!!!!!!!!!!
Waive Marvin
hawksfancents95
March 9th, 2012
8:24 pm
teague for marvin
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
8:25 pm
Rakim and Nas are really good too. Agree on that.
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
8:25 pm
it was a brutal pick
Rev in Tampa
March 9th, 2012
8:26 pm
I’m not really worried about this game. Detroit is so bad that eventually the Hawks will awake from their slumber and take control of the game.
Luke Cage
March 9th, 2012
8:26 pm
I’ve run out of words for Marvin, to me he’s on this team for comical purposes only.
Ra'mon
March 9th, 2012
8:26 pm
Marvin just fell so he won’t get traded. He’s going to be down for the next two weeks.
northcyde
March 9th, 2012
8:26 pm
Lol….see?
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
8:27 pm
Nasal seems not pumped tonight?
Whats his problem?
ntrigue
March 9th, 2012
8:28 pm
Will somebody tell drew to stop whistling!
City Of Atlanta Still Recovering From William Tecumseh Sherman
March 9th, 2012
8:28 pm
I can hear josh and the ref whole convo
Big Al "ALL NBA" Horford
March 9th, 2012
8:28 pm
See I would have a double double by now. When your ALL NBA you do that
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
8:29 pm
ISO is rusty?
Rev in Tampa
March 9th, 2012
8:30 pm
Nice steal by Ivan. But Hawks looked bad on the break.
Big Al "ALL NBA" Horford
March 9th, 2012
8:30 pm
Josh playing timid, thought he was a beast on defense, more like a puppy
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
8:30 pm
Metaphors are great, but if stringing metaphors together was all it took to be a good songwriter, the greatest rappers of all time would be a bunch of no-name battle rappers on Youtube.
1. Andre 3000
2. Pac
3. Big
4. Nas
The 5 spot changes a lot but to be honest I can’t think of a great argument to not put Krit there. I know he hasn’t been around long enough, but after the mixtape he dropped a few days ago I don’t really care.
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
8:31 pm
Josh getting mad at them not feeding him in the post. I don’t blame him.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
8:32 pm
Josh has 2 fouls, which explains the lack of aggressiveness on D.
City Of Atlanta Still Recovering From William Tecumseh Sherman
March 9th, 2012
8:33 pm
krit new mixtape is dope
Buddy Grizzard
March 9th, 2012
8:33 pm
Damnit… LD drew up another turnover.
Hawkfan
March 9th, 2012
8:33 pm
Dammit Teague. Get your head in the game
Rod from College Park
March 9th, 2012
8:33 pm
Ra’mon,
Kirk. I was take almost every player in the league before Marvin. He is a good 3 point shooter, that is it.
Spyro
March 9th, 2012
8:33 pm
Come on, Teague! Can’t do that!
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
8:33 pm
3rd fast break Teague has blown tonight. Come on dude, gotta shake the Marvinitis.
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
8:33 pm
Andre 3000 is decent, but a bit overrated IMO.
Anyone can list Big Names, but lyrics mean more to me. Whatever floats your boat.
Hawkfan
March 9th, 2012
8:34 pm
The Duck!!!
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
8:34 pm
They took Josh out of the game? Wtf?
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
8:35 pm
Rakim is the godfather of rap music…
Hawkfan
March 9th, 2012
8:35 pm
2 fouls Big Lou
bigdave
March 9th, 2012
8:35 pm
Andre 3000 is decent, but a bit overrated IMO.”
whatt….?
nice list Najeh, but id sub Jay at your 4 spot..
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
8:36 pm
10 rebounds total in that half for the Hawks. Pistons missed 14 shots, Hawks missed 20.
And despite that the Hawks got more shot attempts than the Pistons because they forced 13 turnovers.
Luke Cage
March 9th, 2012
8:36 pm
Now they playin some Doug E. Fresh
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
8:36 pm
Watching Josh pat Teague on the head going into the lockeroom shows me that he’s the heart of the team. Without him. Hawks have no chance. No vocal leader.
Melvin
March 9th, 2012
8:36 pm
I hope Marvin can keep the good shooting touch. Maybe that would help in trading him outta here.
City Of Atlanta Still Recovering From William Tecumseh Sherman
March 9th, 2012
8:36 pm
lol@3 sracks being overrated…Lets just hope he sticks to his word on a solo album this year
Buddy Grizzard
March 9th, 2012
8:36 pm
LOVING the confidence from Ivan.
Rev in Tampa
March 9th, 2012
8:37 pm
Ivan is playing a good game. He is active on the boards, making steals, and making some nice passes. Glad one Hawk came ready to play.
Luke Cage
March 9th, 2012
8:37 pm
Teague sat on the bench too long again, thanks LD.
City Of Atlanta Still Recovering From William Tecumseh Sherman
March 9th, 2012
8:37 pm
*stacks
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
8:39 pm
Oh. Okay. Didn’t know he already had one. Thanks for the heads up.
Andre is great with wordplay, but his metaphors are child’s play at best. I like to learn something from the music I listen to. Jay, Andre, and most mainstream doesn’t do that for me.
Don’t get me wrong. Jay’s Resonable Doubt was a classic album, but he just raps about the same ignorant crap.
Big Al "ALL NBA" Hordford
March 9th, 2012
8:40 pm
Josh will never make ALL NBA, mainly because of what you guys like to say, oh yeah his low Basketball I.Q. Haha.
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
8:41 pm
18TH Letter……..
Rod from College Park
March 9th, 2012
8:42 pm
Pac
Jay Z
Andre 3000
Biggie
Nas
Honorable Mention: Pimp C
Sautee
March 9th, 2012
8:42 pm
How do you have a 9 point lead when you are being out rebounded by a 2 to 1 margin?
13 TOs by DET leading to 10 Hawks points. Thank you, Pistons. Keep it up.
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
8:43 pm
The “Black Album”, track #6.. Back Masking going on..Yea we know who he works for….
youtube it…
Ra'mon
March 9th, 2012
8:44 pm
Najeh, the rebound difference comes from Zaza only playing 4 minutes, and Josh not wanting to pick up that 2nd foul. Not to mention, a lot jump shots lead to long rebounds that the guards are supposed to collect.
Rev in Tampa
March 9th, 2012
8:44 pm
The “top-five rappers” discussion is a metaphor for how the Hawks are viewing this game against the Pistons. If we on the blog were hanging on every possession like we would against the Heat, Bulls, etc. then there would be no opportunity to carry out a side discussion.
The Hawks aren’t taking the Pistons that seriously either.
I don’t know who any of the rappers are, but I don’t mind the side discussion.
Big Al "ALL NBA" Hordford
March 9th, 2012
8:44 pm
Today’s Hip Hop artist = Business Men, thats why its almost dead, its not about the craft anymore its about marketing.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
8:45 pm
Lupe is dope though. I can understand having him in your top 5, even if he isn’t in mine. My biggest beef with him is that too many of his songs sound like Linkin Park produced them, but he is a great lyricist.
northcyde
March 9th, 2012
8:46 pm
Damn shame. Can’t even give Marvin his props. 12 pts. 3 – 3 from deep, and nothing. But let him miss a box out and the blog goes crazy. How about being Hawks fans for a change and root for EVERYBODY.
Ra'mon
March 9th, 2012
8:46 pm
Pac
Nas
Talib K.
Big L
Jay Z
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
8:46 pm
R.I.P. Pimp C
I miss that King of the ‘Soawf’.
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
8:47 pm
Todays Hip Hop artists = religious Men, all though you’d be surprised which side they chose..Ah maybe not…..
northcyde
March 9th, 2012
8:49 pm
Great half by Marvin and Mr Smith. JJ doing his thing as expected.
Luke Cage
March 9th, 2012
8:49 pm
Nice game by Marv thus far, but even a broke clock is right twice a day.
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
8:49 pm
northcyde
I know you have a love interest with Marvin, but one good game every full moon isn’t going to get much props.
Najee
Agreed. His newer music tries to Appel to the ‘brighter’ part of the population.
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
8:50 pm
“. Can’t even give Marvin his props. 12 pts. 3 – 3 from deep,”
Who is he playing against?????/
YAWN……. Better yet, Crickets……lol
bigdave
March 9th, 2012
8:50 pm
stacks
pac
big
jay
busta/snoop
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
8:51 pm
Slimjr
Yes. We all know they are illuminati, devil worshipers. Yet, I’m not worried about that while driving down 85 with the speakers blasting, or enjoying a young chica grinding on me at the club.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
8:52 pm
Here we are all giving props to various rappers and in the middle northcyde is giving props to Marvin.
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
8:52 pm
Appeal*
Najeh*
Stupid iPhone.
bigdave
March 9th, 2012
8:53 pm
Marvin sucks. he’s playing well today.
Luke Cage
March 9th, 2012
8:54 pm
Marvin is playing??
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
8:54 pm
So Nique points out how Marvin’s first quarter jumpers were all wide open, and now Marvin gets his first shot contested and bricks it. Hmm…
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
8:54 pm
there you go…Not just them its much larger..
Luke Cage
March 9th, 2012
8:55 pm
Why didn’t Marv just drive to the basket, must be scared
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
8:56 pm
Josh with a weak contest on Maxiell on one end, and throws up a jumper on the other end even though he had the baseline wide open. Come on Josh, get your head in the game.
Rod from College Park
March 9th, 2012
8:56 pm
Trade for Maxiell.
bigdave
March 9th, 2012
8:56 pm
and playing well for him means, shooting the ball well. really brings nothing else to the table.
terrell
March 9th, 2012
8:56 pm
Time to start hearing the word “energy” or lacktherof again. Welcome back Joe.
Luke Cage
March 9th, 2012
8:56 pm
Uh Oh, its the 3rd qtr
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
8:57 pm
How bout Marvin for Maxiell?
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
8:57 pm
Got to get rid of Marvin
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
8:58 pm
Horrible defense. Good timeout by LD.
Slimjr
Yes. I know about the whole: NWO, population reduction, false 911 operation, ect.
I just don’t care. I rather just get mine.
Rod from College Park
March 9th, 2012
8:58 pm
northcyde,
Most fans expect professional basketball players to be able to knock down wide open jumpers. Kids in high school can do that. Hell, I can do that. When Marv does it consistently, and against above average competition, I’ll be glad to give him some credit.
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
9:00 pm
Kirk hating on Josh hard on the bench. Lol
DawgNole
March 9th, 2012
9:00 pm
Nice to see some others on here taking Rathbun the Insufferable and Nique the Nincompoop to task. Good fellows, I’m sure, but bush league announcers. The ATL can do better than them–but won’t.
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
9:01 pm
Big Lou remember those Germans Citizens of the 1920’s did not care either and you saw in about a decade what happen to them? I’m sure they thought never in a lifetime? I’m just saying…
But good you up on it!
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
9:01 pm
Take Zaza out. He doesn’t have it tonight.
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
9:02 pm
Trade Marvin the “Tin Man”….
City Of Atlanta Still Recovering From William Tecumseh Sherman
March 9th, 2012
9:02 pm
josh doesnt want to play tonight
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
9:02 pm
4 fouls on Josh. Not good.
Teague got his cornbread taken.
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
9:03 pm
Slimjr
Well, when crap hits the fan, I already got a buddy that will get me out of the country. Every man for himself, I say.
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
9:04 pm
Let Josh foul out..They might as well get used to him not being on the Court soon…
terrell
March 9th, 2012
9:04 pm
What happened to the 2 foul rule LD? Josh has 4.
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
9:05 pm
Why is Josh still in?
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
9:05 pm
That should have been a goaltend, but nice block anyway Marvin.
High-sider
March 9th, 2012
9:06 pm
1. Tela
2. Eightball & MJG
3. E-40
4. Too Short
5. UGK (Bun-B and Pimp-C)
Honorable Mention
1. Scarface
2. EPMD
3. Eric B. & Rakim
4. Pastor Troy
5. Mystikal
6. Snoop Dog
Some of the Most Underrated and Slept on R&B, Soul, Neo-Soul and/or (Rap) Hip-Hop Artists:
Mr. Mike
Christion
Van Hunt
Crime Boss
Dru Down
City Of Atlanta Still Recovering From William Tecumseh Sherman
March 9th, 2012
9:06 pm
bench josh
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
9:06 pm
“Why is Josh still in?”
Coach getting used to him not being here? LOL!
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
9:07 pm
5 fouls on Josh.
City Of Atlanta Still Recovering From William Tecumseh Sherman
March 9th, 2012
9:08 pm
didnt even argue the call…he doesnt want to play for atlanta anymore
Luke Cage
March 9th, 2012
9:08 pm
Man another 3rd qtr meltdown along with shoddy coaching
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
9:09 pm
LD is a moron.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
9:09 pm
Zaza is not playing well either.
High-sider
March 9th, 2012
9:09 pm
Fire Nate McMillan!
Portland is getting crushed.
DawgNole
March 9th, 2012
9:09 pm
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
9:05 pm
That should have been a goaltend, but nice block anyway Marvin.
_____________________
You got that right, Najeh. And did you notice how Nique said the ball was “still going up” when Marvin got it. A boldface lie. That’s why I have a problem with these homer announcers. No pretense whatsoever at any semblance of objectivity. It’s sickening to me.
O'Brien
March 9th, 2012
9:09 pm
Nique is such a homer. The ball was on the way down, but Nique emphasizes it was a clean block lol
O'Brien
March 9th, 2012
9:09 pm
Najeh,
You guys are way of.
“Who are the 5 best rappers of all time? Think about it.
Dylan, Dylan, Dylan, Dylan, Dylan. Because I spit hot fire.”
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
9:10 pm
Josh should have kept his mouth shut! LD is gonna let him flounder…..
ntrigue
March 9th, 2012
9:10 pm
Hinrich does not need to play pt!
Luke Cage
March 9th, 2012
9:10 pm
LOL@O’Brien
DawgNole
March 9th, 2012
9:10 pm
Oh yeah, it was a good block by Marvin in any event.
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
9:10 pm
Pargo needs to replace Kirk, LD. Stop being retarded!
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
9:11 pm
No Josh on the floor and the lane opens wide for Stuckey, and Josh wasn’t even playing that great on D before he went out. Welcome to life as a Hawks fan if Josh is traded for Gasol.
ntrigue
March 9th, 2012
9:12 pm
Good get Kirk out fast!
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
9:12 pm
LMAO Totally forgot about Dylan.
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
9:12 pm
LD is going lose the game… again. Why the heck is he getting a paycheck?
Melvin
March 9th, 2012
9:12 pm
LD is going to ride Joe until his wheels fall off in his first game back.
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
9:13 pm
Dylan said he made a deal with “chief captain of this world and the one unseen”….He said that’s why he’s still working in an interview on 60 mins. years ago…
O’Brien, look it up…Sorry dude…
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
9:14 pm
O’Brien, look up the term “crossroads”
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
9:14 pm
Where’s Pargo?
Fire LD!!!!!
Rev in Tampa
March 9th, 2012
9:16 pm
JJ with a post-up. It looked ugly but got him to the line
DawgNole
March 9th, 2012
9:16 pm
He might be a card shark, but he sure as hell ain’t an announcer.
ntrigue
March 9th, 2012
9:16 pm
Teague should be back in or he should play whole 4th qt!
Hawkfan
March 9th, 2012
9:17 pm
The Duck falls down. Down goes he Duck
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
9:17 pm
Anybody else want to punch LD in the face?
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
9:17 pm
Everyone on the Hawks looks to pass outside after they start driving, except T-Mac. Look for the rolling big man instead of kicking to the perimeter all the time.
Melvin
March 9th, 2012
9:17 pm
Where is Pargo. LD is so stupid….
terrell
March 9th, 2012
9:17 pm
“Brandon Knight coming to life” AFTER KIRK CAME IN.
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
9:18 pm
Who said LD is doing one of the” best coaching jobs in the NBA” this year?
“crack is whack” WH
DawgNole
March 9th, 2012
9:18 pm
Meanwhile, the birds are blowing this one bigtime. Bout time for Nique to declare that the Hawks are in control of the game and have it in the bag.
ntrigue
March 9th, 2012
9:18 pm
Its official Drew hates Teague1
City Of Atlanta Still Recovering From William Tecumseh Sherman
March 9th, 2012
9:20 pm
smh kirk needs to shoot damn open shot
terrell
March 9th, 2012
9:20 pm
Wtf Hinrich??
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
9:20 pm
Hawks -14 in the 3rd! LD is a brutal Head coach…..
ntrigue
March 9th, 2012
9:20 pm
No way Teague should be on the bench so long this is terrible coaching from Drew !
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
9:20 pm
Pistons pass it inside every time. Hawks pass it outside every time.
Josh left the game and everything fell apart. No post presence, no help defender in the lane.
Melvin
March 9th, 2012
9:21 pm
Hawks score 12pts in the 3rd qtr…. My goodness. How many 3rd qtrs meltdowns have this team had this year
Sautee
March 9th, 2012
9:21 pm
12 point quarter for the Hawks. Visions of Woody’s last year, eh, O’Brien?
tb hawk fan
March 9th, 2012
9:21 pm
boy when we g o cold we freeze
City Of Atlanta Still Recovering From William Tecumseh Sherman
March 9th, 2012
9:21 pm
what will teague do other than turn the ball over
Rev in Tampa
March 9th, 2012
9:21 pm
I beginning to get worried about this game. Detroit is coming to life defensively and the Hawks are going to start shooting jumpers.
Hawkfan
March 9th, 2012
9:21 pm
Horrible Qtr. gotta go get it now. Can’t really say anybody playing well right now. Need a spark
terrell
March 9th, 2012
9:21 pm
Team playing with Joe’s “energy” now.
High-sider
March 9th, 2012
9:22 pm
If the Hawks lose tonight, this will be a bad loss. They will be blowing yet another chance to climb up the Eastern Conference standings in order to get the 3 seed.
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
9:23 pm
They didn’t have 3rd qtr meltdowns when Joe was injured and Josh was in the game. Just saying.
tb hawk fan
March 9th, 2012
9:23 pm
what do they do at halftime drink?
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
9:23 pm
2-15 FG’s in the 3rd! Huh?
Rod from College Park
March 9th, 2012
9:23 pm
Word on the web is that Gasol has been traded. Assumptions are to Houston for Scola, nad K Martin or Foye
Melvin
March 9th, 2012
9:23 pm
Why is Marvin playing PF?
tb hawk fan
March 9th, 2012
9:23 pm
another stupid turnover
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
9:24 pm
More layups for the Pistons. No help defense. The same layups Gasol would be standing and watching if Josh was traded for him.
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
9:24 pm
-17 last 12:35mins of this game….Huh?
Rod from College Park
March 9th, 2012
9:24 pm
Told everyone yesterday that we would still have problems with teams like Detroit. We will have problems with Sacramento also.
kwooden
March 9th, 2012
9:25 pm
Offensive looks terrible!
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
9:25 pm
Why does LD keep costing them games with his horrible coaching? Josh is out of the game with 5 fouls because of this idiot.
kwooden
March 9th, 2012
9:25 pm
Offense
Just Joe
March 9th, 2012
9:25 pm
LD can’t figure out why a frontline of Ivan, Marvin, and Tmac can’t protect the rim. Just silly.
terrell
March 9th, 2012
9:25 pm
Back to the old Hawks. Welcome back Joe. And LD should be fired for giving Hinrich extended min.
ntrigue
March 9th, 2012
9:25 pm
Why is Hinrich still Wtf i just dont understand what Drew sees in him Teague was playing decent and good D let him loose coach Hhinrich is terrible! Guarented hinrich still in after timeout!
O'Brien
March 9th, 2012
9:26 pm
Hawks have 16 rebounds so far? 2 for ZaZa, 4 for Josh. Come on guys.
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
9:26 pm
Rod from College Park
March 9th, 2012
9:23 pm
“Word on the web is that Gasol has been traded. Assumptions are to Houston for Scola, nad K Martin or Foye”
Too bad Rod…The Hawks should have traded Josh for Scola, and K Martin!
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
9:26 pm
Rod
The players don’t have problems with this team. We just have a sh!tty coach.
Luke Cage
March 9th, 2012
9:26 pm
Man the Hawks have problems with everybody
ntrigue
March 9th, 2012
9:26 pm
hinrich still in terrible!
Rev in Tampa
March 9th, 2012
9:26 pm
The frustrating Hawks show up when Joe comes back.
O'Brien
March 9th, 2012
9:26 pm
Interesting enough, JJ comes back, and what happens? Hawks struggle (although Josh’s foul trouble didnt help).
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
9:27 pm
Ld wants Josh outta here! He’s going to let him foul out now….Wow….
Hawkfan
March 9th, 2012
9:27 pm
I hate Marvin
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
9:27 pm
Astro Joe has become awful quiet the last couple of weeks on this blog as it has become more and more abundantly clear that Kirk sucks.
ntrigue
March 9th, 2012
9:27 pm
get hinrich out!
Sautee
March 9th, 2012
9:27 pm
“Josh is out of the game with 5 fouls because of this idiot.”
WTF? LD COACHED Josh to foul? I guess I’m missing something.
Melvin
March 9th, 2012
9:28 pm
Why is Marvin and Kirk getting so much playing time?
bird
March 9th, 2012
9:28 pm
Marvin totally sucks.
ntrigue
March 9th, 2012
9:28 pm
what was drew waiting for?
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
9:28 pm
I hate LD.
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
9:28 pm
-19 last 14mins
tb hawk fan
March 9th, 2012
9:28 pm
here comes the clown time
City Of Atlanta Still Recovering From William Tecumseh Sherman
March 9th, 2012
9:28 pm
REBUILDDDDDD
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
9:29 pm
KaBoom
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
9:29 pm
Core Breach Captain
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
9:29 pm
Sautee
He should have taken him out on the 4th! He so fast to take out Teague with two. It’s freaking common sense!
City Of Atlanta Still Recovering From William Tecumseh Sherman
March 9th, 2012
9:29 pm
hawks need a TRUE point guard that will drive and et them assist teague cant do that game after game
bird
March 9th, 2012
9:30 pm
Pargo definitely needs to be in this game.
ntrigue
March 9th, 2012
9:30 pm
Teague shouldve ben in!
tb hawk fan
March 9th, 2012
9:30 pm
will we score in the 4th
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
9:30 pm
-18 last 15mins
Rod from College Park
March 9th, 2012
9:30 pm
northcyde,
This is also why I never priase Marvin when he plays well in a half. He always turns invisible in the next half. LOL
Jsmoove sux
March 9th, 2012
9:31 pm
J smith is horrible. Trade him for a couple of mops
O'Brien
March 9th, 2012
9:31 pm
I’ll say it before Rod does. hawks need another scorer
Blast
March 9th, 2012
9:31 pm
Hawks stopped moving the ball, man.
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
9:31 pm
-20 last 16mins!
City Of Atlanta Still Recovering From William Tecumseh Sherman
March 9th, 2012
9:31 pm
game over
bird
March 9th, 2012
9:32 pm
Hawks play much better without Joe.
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
9:32 pm
ISO Joe fail.
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
9:32 pm
Josh for Derrick Williams and picks!
Hawkfan
March 9th, 2012
9:32 pm
Finally Teaguevgets aggressive. He’s played real timid tonite
O'Brien
March 9th, 2012
9:32 pm
i dont see why marvin should be praised for 12 pts, 3 assists, 3 rebs.
City Of Atlanta Still Recovering From William Tecumseh Sherman
March 9th, 2012
9:32 pm
wasnt there ball movement when joe was out with the injury hmmm
ntrigue
March 9th, 2012
9:32 pm
Coach Drew killed us!
tb hawk fan
March 9th, 2012
9:33 pm
miss tat free throw gosh
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
9:33 pm
Bench Joe and Marvin
O'Brien
March 9th, 2012
9:34 pm
Speaking of Marvin, he gets his shot blocked.
Hawkfan
March 9th, 2012
9:34 pm
Please give Ivan most of Marvin’s minutes. I’m hoping Ivan kicks his sissy ass
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
9:34 pm
At least that time Marvin got blocked by someone around his height. Baby steps.
City Of Atlanta Still Recovering From William Tecumseh Sherman
March 9th, 2012
9:34 pm
marvin williams needs to just jump off a cliff
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
9:34 pm
Great layup by Marvin… right northcyde?
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
9:35 pm
Good offensive board Marvin.
terrell
March 9th, 2012
9:35 pm
Josh needs to chill with the jump shots. Take it to the hole man.
Rev in Tampa
March 9th, 2012
9:35 pm
Marvin is such a scrub!!! I don’t have words to express my anger at his weak game.
O'Brien
March 9th, 2012
9:35 pm
Good overall numbers for Josh. but he is 1-6 on jumpers outside the paint.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
9:36 pm
Good things happen when Teague drives inside.
O'Brien
March 9th, 2012
9:36 pm
Good points total so far, but not enough rebounds for Josh.
And I would prince over Marvin right now (although that is not sayng much).
terrell
March 9th, 2012
9:36 pm
Damn put TMac on Prince.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
9:36 pm
I see you Marvin. Big shot.
phil
March 9th, 2012
9:37 pm
And this is why no one with sense takes this team seriously…..jeykyl and hyde.
bigdave
March 9th, 2012
9:37 pm
big 3 ball from Marvin
High-sider
March 9th, 2012
9:38 pm
Josh Smith has 5 fouls?
Luke Cage
March 9th, 2012
9:38 pm
LD is an imposter
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
9:38 pm
So, my question is… why did LD allow them to get the Hawks down so much with his horrible subs?
Why was Kirk left in the game?
Why is he coaching?
Bueler?
Hawkfan
March 9th, 2012
9:39 pm
Maybe the drunken tieless LD was the smart version
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
9:39 pm
Josh fixin to foul out…Yawn
The Monger
March 9th, 2012
9:39 pm
I must say in my 27 years on Earth I have never been more embarrassed of a team than the Atlanta Hawks tonight. Josh Smith and Joe Johnson get paid millions of dollars and they have COMPLETELY given up and are giving ZERO effort in the 2nd half tonight. It is disgusting and I would trade BOTH before they stepped on the plane tonight. If I couldnt find a partner for these clowns I would just straight up release them. I cant believe I saw Josh Smith, a multimillionaire thanks to the Hawks organization, just stand still as a rebound was 6 inches away from him and let someone just reach over and take it, that was the 4th play of the game I honestly was shocked at the lack of any effort or hustle from him, and Joe has just completely checked out. Pathetic… Oh my God ASG (I know you guys are just as big a joke as these clowns), but just DO ONE GOOD move in your entire existence and get these two bums out of town ASAP and let the healing begin. Get a team full of Ivan Johnson’s and Jannero Pargo’s and a decent coach and start the healing…
City Of Atlanta Still Recovering From William Tecumseh Sherman
March 9th, 2012
9:39 pm
wow…
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
9:40 pm
The Pistons keep passing it inside and good things happen. Don’t see why the Hawks can’t do that.
And on cue, on the other end, the Hawks make it a point to go inside and Joe gets a 3 point play. KEEP GOING INSIDE STOP SETTLING
bigdave
March 9th, 2012
9:40 pm
good strong move Joe..
Rev in Tampa
March 9th, 2012
9:41 pm
at least the third post up by jj. Scored five points on his three post-ups. Effencient.
Hawkfan
March 9th, 2012
9:41 pm
Hell yeah
O'Brien
March 9th, 2012
9:41 pm
Its funny how Josh tends to make those long jumpers in crunch time.
Meanwhile, Detroit is back to being Detroit. Remember, they let us steal one last time in OT
bird
March 9th, 2012
9:41 pm
Smoove
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
9:41 pm
I want to know Josh’s FG% on jumpers in the last 5 minutes of games.
The Monger
March 9th, 2012
9:42 pm
I understande that Josh may be mad at the organization, but lots of atheletes are and have been mad at other organizations, and don’t take it out on their teams. Tell me Joe, I understand you are coming back from your “knee injury” but how do you check out of so many games while taking $120 million from your employer and go to sleep easy at night… I’m guessing you dont…
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
9:42 pm
Nique is a damn fool. Who the hell predicts with 4 minutes left that Joe will hit a buzzer-beating game tying 3. You are dumb. So dumb. Really dumb. For real.
O'Brien
March 9th, 2012
9:42 pm
Wow. Maxiell.
Maxiell’s 2 season highs came against the hawks
bigdave
March 9th, 2012
9:43 pm
Jason looked like throwback Kevin Willis on that put back..
bird
March 9th, 2012
9:43 pm
I wish Nique would shut up sometimes. He always jinx the Hawks.
phil
March 9th, 2012
9:44 pm
No one ever said Nique was smart.
I haven’t forgotten the stupid stuff he did for yrs on the court.
Sautee
March 9th, 2012
9:44 pm
As I said in the first half… the next Hawk to block Maxiell out will be the first.
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
9:45 pm
CORE BREACH………..Nique should stop drinkin before duty….
DawgNole
March 9th, 2012
9:46 pm
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
9:42 pm
Nique is a damn fool. Who the hell predicts with 4 minutes left that Joe will hit a buzzer-beating game tying 3. You are dumb. So dumb. Really dumb. For real.
_____________________
Like I wrote a few minutes ago: “Nique the Nincompoop” (which has nothing to do with Davenpoop, by the way).
bird
March 9th, 2012
9:46 pm
Hawks will be up by a point with 2 minutes left in the 4th and Nique will say some BS like, “The Hawks can end this one with a bucket right here”.
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
9:46 pm
Game over
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
9:47 pm
Good D Ivan. Out of his comfort zone guarding Prince on the perimeter and he still got in his grill.
phil
March 9th, 2012
9:47 pm
Nique is a brilliant manager of money….
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
9:47 pm
Bench Marvin
The Monger
March 9th, 2012
9:48 pm
I dont understand alot of you guys on here though, I understand you are passionate about your team and enjoy watching all the action intently, and pointing out positives and hoping. I guess I just lost any hope in this team, and mostly the whole Hawks organization and management in general So I find conversing about game situation and Hawks stats, what’s the point in the end? EVERYBODY KNOWS this team has the same limited ceiling it has for the past 5,10, and 20 years. We will lose in the first or if we are lucky 2nd round, and that is it folks… some good regular season wins and a few ugly ones. So is a win over Detroit even meaningful in any way?
terrell
March 9th, 2012
9:48 pm
Marvin clanks another big shot.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
9:48 pm
Free throws.
Rev in Tampa
March 9th, 2012
9:49 pm
This is the first game that I have noticed that the Hawks are missing Al. the Pistions have been feeding the ball into the paint all night long.
terrell
March 9th, 2012
9:49 pm
TEAGUE!
Rev in Tampa
March 9th, 2012
9:50 pm
Finally! Nice to have that lead back
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
9:50 pm
Defense!!!!
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
9:50 pm
Like the first half, the Hawks keep giving up rebounds, but the Pistons keep returning the favor by turning it over.
Great play by Teague, but as he continues to grow as a point guard he’ll learn to look for Josh for the alley oop (he had him open).
Sautee
March 9th, 2012
9:50 pm
Ivan got away with fouling Monroe. Hawks got lucky.
phil
March 9th, 2012
9:51 pm
Release Al Horford!!
DawgNole
March 9th, 2012
9:51 pm
Off the mat! Gotta hold on now–and not waste this effort. Course it never shoulda been close. I mean, we are talking about the Pistons here–hardly amongst the NBA elite.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
9:51 pm
“what’s the point in the end?”
What’s the point in watching sports in general? It’s only entertainment. We don’t get paid if they win, so what’s the difference?
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
9:51 pm
Looks like the Hawks are going to make LD look good again.
Luke Cage
March 9th, 2012
9:51 pm
Maxiel with season highs.
Hawkfan
March 9th, 2012
9:52 pm
Monger, by your logic nothing matters so why bother. I get into this hoping Hawks overcome the hand they are dealt. Go Hawks
bird
March 9th, 2012
9:52 pm
Pistons have been fouling Hawks all night with no call.
phil
March 9th, 2012
9:52 pm
Bill Monroe?
Monroe Abrams?
Monroe County?
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
9:52 pm
Marvin has been letting Prince go left the entire game.
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
9:53 pm
phil
March 9th, 2012
9:47 pm
“Nique is a brilliant manager of money….”
So is our Leadership…How much do the Taxpayers owe? Bout 15 trillion? Word is more like over 100 trillion….
DawgNole
March 9th, 2012
9:53 pm
Don’t count them chickens, Big Lou. This one’s far from a Hawks victory.
terrell
March 9th, 2012
9:53 pm
Great D Marvin. smh
Melvin
March 9th, 2012
9:53 pm
Where is Northcyde to talk about how good a defensive player Marvin is….
bird
March 9th, 2012
9:53 pm
Terrible defense Marvin. Everyone knows Prince is left handed.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
9:53 pm
Well, we’ll see where they go now. Post up Josh, or iso-Joe? Has LD learned from the last few games?
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
9:54 pm
What a horrible possession.
Rev in Tampa
March 9th, 2012
9:55 pm
I thought the shot was good
Melvin
March 9th, 2012
9:55 pm
WTF kind of shot by Joe was that….
bird
March 9th, 2012
9:55 pm
What the heck was Joe thinking?
Just Joe
March 9th, 2012
9:55 pm
Teague has to take that shot.
Rev in Tampa
March 9th, 2012
9:55 pm
nope. I was wrong
Rod from College Park
March 9th, 2012
9:55 pm
ISO JOE. NO NO NO
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
9:55 pm
Joe comes back and LD thinks he has to run the worthless 1-2 pick and pop. DUMBASS POST UP JOSH
phil
March 9th, 2012
9:55 pm
Yet another boneheaded iso joe prayer….
What a pathetic joke of a team.
Big Lou
March 9th, 2012
9:56 pm
Iso Joe for the loss. Teague helped by being timid
High-sider
March 9th, 2012
9:56 pm
Bad loss.
Melvin
March 9th, 2012
9:56 pm
Leave LD and Joe in Detroit…
DawgNole
March 9th, 2012
9:56 pm
As I was sayin . . . .
Just Joe
March 9th, 2012
9:56 pm
No inner dog.
Ole Hawks Fan
March 9th, 2012
9:56 pm
Welcome back ISO JJ……………………this team played better with you not on the floor.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
March 9th, 2012
9:56 pm
Joe 18 points on 12 shots
Josh 21 points on 19 shots
matt
March 9th, 2012
9:56 pm
Teague had a good look at the end. Afraid to take the big shot, I guess
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
9:56 pm
Jettison the Core..Or one rotten apple will spoil the rest of the bushel….
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
9:56 pm
Teague does have to take that shot, but that play should never have been called in the first place. Bibby and Woody don’t work here anymore. Get the stupid 1-2 pick and roll (actually a pick and pop since nobody ever rolls) out of the playbook.
Rev in Tampa
March 9th, 2012
9:56 pm
Teague should not have deferred to jj.
bird
March 9th, 2012
9:57 pm
What a downer.
Rod from College Park
March 9th, 2012
9:57 pm
Joe is 6′8 yet he stays perimeter. Some of his jumpshots are worse than Josh’s.
High-sider
March 9th, 2012
9:57 pm
Turrible loss. (Charles Barkley)
Bluestreak
March 9th, 2012
9:57 pm
Stop with the poor poor pitiful Josh mess. Its not like he hasn’t been a brooding, petulent brat for most of his time here. While he puts up good numbers, how much better could he be if he decided not to pout and getting T’ed up? And throwing up those awful 15-20 footers.
He’s just as much a part of the problem as is his management. Josh, Joe and Williams need to go and we need to hit the reset button on our ‘core’. Horford is good, not great, and needs stronger players around him. I think he and Teague are a good start, but we need a real 5, a SG that that can carry a team without having to own the ball and a 3 with both shooting range and the ability to drive the net.
We’re back to the days of Mutombo, Smith and Ty Long…2nd round is as good as we can get and its time to reset. Hopefully without such a long down time.
Luke Cage
March 9th, 2012
9:57 pm
Whats Marv’s 2nd half stats???
Sautee
March 9th, 2012
9:57 pm
That was Teague’s play to make. I wish that he had driven the lane rather than pass it back out to Joe with short clock.
Hawkfan
March 9th, 2012
9:57 pm
LD should be fired and no doubt Josh is and should be pissed about this final play call. Are you kidding me? ISO Joe? I’m feeling like Monger now
Ole Hawks Fan
March 9th, 2012
9:57 pm
Who is the PG on this team…………………Josh……………..JJ(iso) or is it Teague???? I wanna know ,,,,,,,,LD!
Smh
March 9th, 2012
9:57 pm
Smh why does LD always run that stupid ISO play instead of drawing something up?
The Monger
March 9th, 2012
9:57 pm
Seriously??? That was Larry Drew’s “brilliant” end of game plan?? Chance to win a game in which you played horribly, with no effort until 5 minutes left in the game, and you’re last play was to have Joe back down Stuckey for 2 steps pass back to Teague and hoist a 27 foot fade away 3 for the win?? And you wonder why Hawks attendence is extremely low, and why almost every guy there is unhappy and wants out? FIRE LARRY
phil
March 9th, 2012
9:58 pm
That’s on Teague too for being too big a wuss to take the open shot.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
9:58 pm
Jason Maxiell had more than half as many rebounds as the Hawks’ entire team.
terrell
March 9th, 2012
9:58 pm
Back to ISO.
rollo lawson
March 9th, 2012
9:58 pm
The frustration on Josh’s face says it all. Now you see why he wants to be traded. Larry Drew is a horrible head coach!! This guy has no clue at all.
O'Brien
March 9th, 2012
9:58 pm
Teague has to take that open shot. but being timid, he deferred back to JJ, who was forced to take a contested jumper.
Although Teague has to step up, this is what happens when JJ plays. Players look to him almost to a fault.
And LD looks to JJ too, which fails more often than not. maybe Josh is tired of this and wants to be the guy to take the last shot.
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
9:59 pm
LD lost another one..Great job Larry….joke
Melvin
March 9th, 2012
9:59 pm
Prince drove the ball in the lane for his last shot, Joe took a faded away falling out of bounds shot with no time to get a rebound for the last shot. And the Hawks are paying him $120 mil….. My goodness the Hawks are stuck with his contract.
NBA fan
March 9th, 2012
9:59 pm
LOL… Josh is trash nd so is Larry Drew.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
9:59 pm
Let’s be real, though, this game was lost on the defensive end. You can’t let the other team shoot 56% and expect to win games.
kwooden
March 9th, 2012
9:59 pm
Jeff needs to take the shot! He really needs to work on his jumpshot, I think he’s scared his shot is going to get blocked!
Ds
March 9th, 2012
9:59 pm
And we wonder why josh wants out of here
Just Joe
March 9th, 2012
10:00 pm
No JJ and Teague takes that shot. Dump Joe to Orlando.
phil
March 9th, 2012
10:00 pm
Fire Nick Van Exel!!
rollo lawson
March 9th, 2012
10:00 pm
Pargo should have been in the game at point. Larry Drew is the reason why Jeff Tegue plays scared.
City Of Atlanta Still Recovering From William Tecumseh Sherman
March 9th, 2012
10:00 pm
yea blame that on teague he needs to grow up and play like a point guard and stop being joes bitch
DawgNole
March 9th, 2012
10:00 pm
After the Hawks’ recent victory over league-leading OKC, I posted the following:
“Oh, the victory was surprising alright! . . . Every time for 40-plus years you’re about to give up yet again on these slugs they pull out another shocker. But I’m warning you, fans, don’t get your hopes up! They’ll bring you down again–soon and hard!
__________________________
And that’s exactly what they’ve done.
NBA fan
March 9th, 2012
10:01 pm
“Joe 18 points on 12 shots
Josh 21 points on 19 shots…”
Josh never deserves any blame for playing terribly though, remember.
Mark
March 9th, 2012
10:01 pm
Free Throws have PLAGUED us all year! No heart, no team, no management, no coach, no star, a Marvin Williams
ntrigue
March 9th, 2012
10:01 pm
We ran ISO Joe and he wasnt even hot! We sat Teague too long and played Hinrich too long when he was playing terrible 2nd halff! Coach Drew is a genuis!
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
10:02 pm
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7lxe3v6
ntrigue
March 9th, 2012
10:02 pm
And Marvin sucks!
phil
March 9th, 2012
10:02 pm
Of course they bring us down…
It’s what they’ve ALWAYS done.
Rod from College Park
March 9th, 2012
10:02 pm
Hawks got the switch with Prince and Stuckey. Joe 6′8, Stuckey 6′5 yet Joe Johnson our all star stays perimeter instead of taking his smaller man to the rack.
Mark
March 9th, 2012
10:03 pm
Will somebody tell me how does Marvin get these minutes?!!!! Where was Pargo?
High-sider
March 9th, 2012
10:03 pm
Needed more production from Teague tonight. Why didn’t LD run those type of plays where Josh has the ball at the FT line and a post player sets a pick for Joe on the curl up top and then the post player rolls to the basket for a wide open dunk or layup on a pass from Josh? SMH
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
10:03 pm
Teague +9, Kirk -10, Hawks lose by 1. Do the math.
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
10:03 pm
Peyton to Denver? What about TebowTebowTebow!
Elway want a traditional QB?
Romeo
March 9th, 2012
10:04 pm
So Josh puts out the trade request then comes out and plays like this?
Apologists won’t say anything, I’m sure.
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
10:04 pm
Larry blows another one….
ntrigue
March 9th, 2012
10:05 pm
Did Teague even play in the 3rd qtr Drew is Terrible! MC can you ask Drew why he continues to play Hinrich over Teague in crucial situations!
phil
March 9th, 2012
10:05 pm
Josh smith is a putrid joke.
Fire LD!!
Sautee
March 9th, 2012
10:05 pm
Najeh,
Interesting trade but where would LA play Joe, at the 3?
Melvin
March 9th, 2012
10:05 pm
Dumb coaching…
Mark
March 9th, 2012
10:06 pm
Marvin has no business STARTING on an NBA TEAM. He is so sorry and I don’t care that he hit some three pointers. Can we get Jason Maxiell?
bird
March 9th, 2012
10:06 pm
On the replay, Josh was yelling at Teague to throw the ball back to Joe at the end.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
10:06 pm
“Interesting trade but where would LA play Joe, at the 3?”
Nah, at the 2. They have needed a 2 ever since Billups tore his Achilles.
NBA fan
March 9th, 2012
10:06 pm
If Joe missed all those shots like Josh did, fans would raise hell. Can’t bash the hometown idiot though!
ntrigue
March 9th, 2012
10:06 pm
Josh did not play terribe yall are some dummies!
trint
March 9th, 2012
10:07 pm
I was a Teague supporter but that last play proved 1 of 2 things. 1. He has ABSOLUTELY no confidence in his jumper or 2. He is afraid to shoot when Joe is in the game.
The look on Josh face at the end of the game basically said, “this is why i asked to be traded”
Drew doesnt have a clue either
Mark
March 9th, 2012
10:08 pm
Why would LD keep Josh in the game after that 4th foul. He knows Josh doesn’t have the brain to play with 4 fouls.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
10:08 pm
Joe didn’t play bad for his first game back, but running the final play for him was stupid after the way the last 7 games have gone.
Sautee
March 9th, 2012
10:08 pm
“Teague +9, Kirk -10, Hawks lose by 1. Do the math.”
T-Mac was -17. What kind of math covers that?
NBA fan
March 9th, 2012
10:08 pm
“Josh did not play terribe yall are some dummies!”
Looks like someone doesn’t understand efficiency. Read below slowly.
“Joe 18 points on 12 shots
Josh 21 points on 19 shots…”
Dept. Of Unintended Irony
March 9th, 2012
10:09 pm
“T-Mac was -17. What kind of math covers that?”
That would be subtraction.
JaeEvolution
March 9th, 2012
10:10 pm
What about an Evan Turner and Thad Young for Josh Smith? We get younger and a potential star in Turner who has been playing like a #2 pick lately.
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
10:10 pm
Sautee, Dept. found you….. lol
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
March 9th, 2012
10:10 pm
*Yawn*
High-sider
March 9th, 2012
10:11 pm
Hawks miss 7 free throws and lose by 1 point; 86-85
bama52
March 9th, 2012
10:11 pm
Bad call coach Joe Johnson did not have to take that shot. There were at least 3 other players on the floor that could have taken the shot . If you want Joe to shoot why have him bring the ball up court. The ball should have came up the court quickly Josh,Marvin, Joe, or Jeff could have taken the shot. That play was to predictable. Way to fight back Hawks.
O'Brien
March 9th, 2012
10:13 pm
I dont know why LD calls that last play for JJ. All it does is allow 3 of the other Pistons players to stand around, knowing its ISO JJ. LD will never learn
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
10:13 pm
Josh went out of the game in the 3rd quarter and the entire team fell apart on both ends of the floor. Stats only tell the story to a point. Josh didn’t even play that great and yet with him on the floor the Hawks were competitive, and with him out they were clueless.
Too much focus on offensive issues anyway. This game was lost on D. Can’t let the other team get in the paint at will and shoot 56%.
O'Brien
March 9th, 2012
10:15 pm
Defense was bad, but we still held them to 86 points. And lost.
Hawks need another scorer, right Rod? If we cant score 87 points, something is wrong…
dub366
March 9th, 2012
10:16 pm
this game on LD why put the ball in Joe Johnson hand when Josh been carrying you. why was Kirk in the game scare to take shots if i can see it LD should see it
Hollywould
March 9th, 2012
10:16 pm
Larry Drew just said “joe’s legs were giving out late” Then why go to him at the end?
O'Brien
March 9th, 2012
10:20 pm
And why play JJ 36 minutes in his first game back?
tb hawk fan
March 9th, 2012
10:21 pm
what can we look forward to hawks are looking bad braves are 1and 7
NBA fan
March 9th, 2012
10:22 pm
Blaming missed FTs now? Josh 4-8.
Hollywould
March 9th, 2012
10:23 pm
Let Pargo play/ when johnson is in they look like they are in quicksand
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
10:23 pm
The Clippers’ play by play guy’s Twitter name is Ohmeohmy. If Nique ever gets on Twitter I hope his Twitter name is Nimbers or Heatcheck.
Melvin
March 9th, 2012
10:23 pm
O’Brien,
Are you ok with a 12pt qtr? How many times have we seen the Hawks struggle to score points? Not being able to score 20pts in a qtr is an indictment of itself that the Hawks need another score or at least a better offensive system.
Mr. Thompson
March 9th, 2012
10:24 pm
How can we lose to the Pistons? Bad loss. It’s time to make some changes. The Hawks have already reached their peak and are now in descent. And, they shouldn’t wait forever to trade Josh. If we wait until next year we won’t be able to get much for him since his contract will be expiring.
Maybe Next Year
March 9th, 2012
10:25 pm
Those who know bsketball realize the Hawks lost this game, once again, in the paint, because they were getting outhhustled for rebounds. Josh played a part in that, one way or another.
Mr. Thompson
March 9th, 2012
10:26 pm
Also, Teague has GOT to play better. If you are the main PG and you play 30+ mins, you have GOT to score more than a few buckets and a few assists. Too little production from someone we need significant contribution from.
DawgNole
March 9th, 2012
10:27 pm
tb hawk fan
March 9th, 2012
10:21 pm
what can we look forward to hawks are looking bad braves are 1and 7
______________________
That’s why they call us “Losersville.”
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
10:28 pm
RG3 to the Redskins.
prison mike
March 9th, 2012
10:28 pm
Wow Lakers in the same predicament as we are final 26 secs.
James
March 9th, 2012
10:30 pm
This is very similar to what happened the last time the Hawks played the Pistons. Both times, the Pistons essentially dominated us on the inside, but this time, Joe didn’t hit a big shot at the end of regulation.
Big and physical front lines just seem to give the Hawks a lot of trouble. Maxiell was the best big man in this game, and he seemed to score most of his points with ease. Josh played off of him too much and gave him a bunch of open jumpers. Meanwhile, both Maxiell and Monroe got whatever they wanted inside against any and every Hawks defender. The Pistons dominated almost every statistical category in this game, including FG%, rebounding, and assists. The only thing that really kept the Hawks in this game was all of the Piston turnovers and a lot of timely three point baskets.
The Hawks didn’t really play badly, the Pistons just played better. It would have been amazing if the Hawks would have won this game with the Pistons shooting 55.9% and with the Pistons out-rebounding them by 13. In reality, the Hawks should have lost both games this year to the Pistons with the way Detroit has played against them, but at least the Hawks stole one of them.
I’ve got to tip my hat to Maxiell. He was pretty much the key to the game tonight.l He dominated his matchup with Josh and anyone else who attempted to guard him by basically just outworking everyone and playing to his strengths. Twelve rebounds in 29 minutes is evidence of hard work.
Meanwhile, the Hawks apparently don’t have any healthy player capable of guardian Greg Monroe. Once he realized that he was quicker than Zaza, that was pretty much the end of that, and with a few pump fakes, he was able to easily score on Josh.
As far as the Hawks were concerned, Teague seemed a bit too tentative in this game, and the Pistons basically turned Josh into an inefficient volume shooter on the offensive end. He scored 21 points, but he needed 19 shots and 8 free throw attempts to do so. Joe was fairly effective, but I’m surprised he only took 12 shots. Marvin was pretty solid for his role, but he passed up some open 3 pointers when he had it going, and that probably hurt the team in the long run. The bench was lackluster in this game as well. The physical defense from Damien Wilkins nullified T-Mac and Detroit’s guards did a goob job of running guys off of the 3 point line. Also, their physical interior defense took away almost anything we had going at the hoop. I’m surpsied this game was as close as it was. Looking at the stat sheet, it felt like this should have been a blowout loss, but at least the Hawks didn’t fold when they got down in the fourth.
On to the next one…
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
10:30 pm
2 FG’s in the 1st 15 mins of the 2nd Half? You should have lost…Brutal…yep…
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
10:31 pm
Redskins will be in a Superbowl within 4 years….
Colts will be sorry they did not draft RG3….
James
March 9th, 2012
10:33 pm
Correction: “…capable of *guarding* Greg Monroe…”
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
10:33 pm
No Kevin Love for the Wolves and they have a chance to beat the Lakers.
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
10:33 pm
Brutal 3rd quarter! Where’s the ENERGY LARRY?
prison mike
March 9th, 2012
10:33 pm
Of course Kobe gets to the line an puts his team up 1. While Joe….
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
10:34 pm
“No Kevin Love for the Wolves and they have a chance to beat the Lakers.”
Great coaching and their #2 pick is playing like a #2..Our #2 pick? Crickets………
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
10:35 pm
When Joe kicked it back out to Teague, I have no idea why he went out to the perimeter instead of staying in the post against Stuckey and asking for the ball again.
Hawkfan
March 9th, 2012
10:35 pm
Really, if you know basketball ou know this team is terrible on defense and on the boards when Josh goes out or plays in foul trouble like tonite. Culprits tonite are bad game by ZaZa, Teague, Hinrich and usual weak game by Marvina. LD showed once again he is an idiot. Also poor game by TMac. Need more Ivan, Pargo and need Willie Green back. Best 5 lyricists
Dylan
Tom Waits
Springsteen
Lucinda Williams
Nick Cave
Mikee
March 9th, 2012
10:35 pm
allow 56%+out reb 37-24+shoot 68% from FT=Lost.
How yu let somebody 6′7 out rebound someone 6′11(Zaza) and highflyer(6′9)Smoove who avg 9.9rebs pers game smh put ur as on somebody and box out smh.This a game were horford was missed in reb
O'Brien
March 9th, 2012
10:35 pm
Melvin,
I’m not ok with a 12 pt qtr. But lets not forget we had the same issues when Woody was here (especially in the 4th), and when Jamal was here, so this is nothing new. I think it goes more to coaching more than anything else, because we haven’t had a coach who can cal a play that will get the right guy an easy shot in the right spot.
I am starting to buy into vava’s theory that Josh wants to be the #1 option, because JJ as the #1 option has run its course. Josh did not even touch the ball on the last possession, despite the fact that he has been carrying the Hawks with JJ and Al out.
Josh wants to be top dog, and has the mentality to be top dog. JJ? Not si much.
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
10:36 pm
The Ref’s did not help Detroit beat the Hawks for sure..Larry took care of that…
O'Brien
March 9th, 2012
10:38 pm
Hawks are real close to being the 7th seed, which is almost guaranteed to be a 1st round loss going up against Miami or Chicago.
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
10:38 pm
Dylan
Tom Waits
Springsteen
Lucinda Williams
Nick Cave
Best 5 singers? None of the above….
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
10:39 pm
Miami in 4, Chicago in 5…
High-sider
March 9th, 2012
10:40 pm
@James
Regarding your post @10:30pm – good synopsis.
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
10:41 pm
0-46= ECF visit for our Atlanta Hawks..Yes the streak will certainly continue…
Call in a Priest….
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
10:41 pm
At 4:54 in the 3rd, Josh picked up his 5th foul and went to the bench. The Hawks at the time were up 56-55.
At 11:26 in the 4th, Josh re-entered the game. The Hawks at the time were down 71-62.
That’s a 10 point swing in the 5 minutes that Josh sat out in the 2nd half. Say what you want about “21 points on 19 shots”, but efficiency is only one measuring stick. Fact is the Hawks scored 6 points in 5 minutes while he was out and let the Pistons get to the basket at will.
Hawkfan
March 9th, 2012
10:42 pm
Agreed Slim. Guess I like great songwriters that have to overcome lack of great pipes. Listen to Waits though. Never off key and more unusual voice than bad voice
High-sider
March 9th, 2012
10:44 pm
I forgot to mention Lupe Fiasco. He’s up there to me because he’s somewhat of a deep lyricist.
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
10:46 pm
Hawkfan look up Todd Smith when you have time…(Eyes wide shut) type of stuff…
O'Brien
March 9th, 2012
10:47 pm
Dwight Howard was a groomsman in Josh’s wedding. One of the his groomsmen? Rajon Rondo.
If Hawks trade Josh, there is no way Dwight signs here (imo).
Rod from College Park
March 9th, 2012
10:47 pm
“Hawks miss 7 free throws and lose by 1 point; 86-85″
Did I mention that Jamal Crawford is shooting 95% from the free throw line.
Rod from College Park
March 9th, 2012
10:48 pm
I VOTE NO TO ISO JOE!!!!
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
10:49 pm
Is Atlanta Sports complexes built on Indian burial ground or something? This ish is serious over the past 45 years…The way these professional franchises fail to win is a function of mystery…
TMACfan
March 9th, 2012
10:51 pm
We scored 12 points in the second quarter…. we deserved to lose.
O'Brien
March 9th, 2012
10:54 pm
Rod,
Jamal might end up in Indy or Minny.
Grandad
March 9th, 2012
10:55 pm
LD cannot coach Joe or does not know how ?
Josh and Joe; chemistry … ? … I think not.
Did Zaza foul out ?
Why was marv in so much;
Mrs G-dad made me watch with the sound off.
Last pos:
24 seconds; wasted 8 lollygagging down the ct.
wasted 6 more waiting for Teague [Teague threw the ball in ?]
to get set up for the high screen.
Joe wasted 8 or 9 more seconds with his tricky dribble
passed back to Teaguer;
[asleep; caught off guard; never thought the ball would come back to him]
Teaguer didn`t want the ball – threw it back to Joe – panic 5, 4, 3, heave….
** note – please do not check my arithmatic**
Now: *[on the last pos]
Why was T-Mac; not in the game ?
Why was V-Rad; not in the game /
Why was Teague in the game if he was not going to drive & draw ?
Above All Why in Heck was Marv anywhere near the ct.
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This was for Rusty who thinks I never crititique LD !
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
10:55 pm
IN REAL NEWS:
“Fannie, Freddie Executive Bonuses Cut
Salaries of the 70 top executives will be limited to $500K”
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
10:56 pm
“Mrs G-dad made me watch with the sound off.”
Don’t you mean G-mom?
northcyde
March 9th, 2012
10:58 pm
Question: who was guarding Maxiell most of the game, and why couldn’t that person ( those people ) keep him in check?
James
March 9th, 2012
11:00 pm
“At 4:54 in the 3rd, Josh picked up his 5th foul and went to the bench. The Hawks at the time were up 56-55.
At 11:26 in the 4th, Josh re-entered the game. The Hawks at the time were down 71-62.
That’s a 10 point swing in the 5 minutes that Josh sat out in the 2nd half. Say what you want about “21 points on 19 shots”, but efficiency is only one measuring stick. Fact is the Hawks scored 6 points in 5 minutes while he was out and let the Pistons get to the basket at will.”
The Hawks are definitely better defensively, most of the time, when Josh is on the floor, but they were bad with and without him in that third quarter. You have to look at the big picture. The Hawks were up 50-41 at the half. By the time Josh left the game at the 4:54 mark, the score was 56-55 in favor of the Hawks, which means that during that 7:06 stretch, the Hawks only scored 6 points and gave up 13 to the Pistons, with Josh going 1-5 and turning the ball over twice. That third quarter was just bad for the Hawks, with both Josh in and out of the game.
Even if Josh’s stat line looks better than the other Hawks, he was as much to blame for this loss as almost any other Hawks player. Yes, the Pistons may have gone on a run while he was out, but they also had a run when he was in, and all of the points and rebounds he gave up to Maxiell essentially balance out or outweigh anything positive he did.
Regardless, the Hawks just played poor interior defense in this game, and didn’t rebound the ball effectively enough. Josh and Zaza flat-out got dominated by Maxiell and Monroe in this game on both ends of the floor. Josh and Zaza combined for 23 points on 8-22 shooting and 9 rebounds, meanwhile Maxiell and Monroe combined for 39 points on 19-26 shooting and 19 rebounds. This game was lost in the paint. A team doesn’t typically shoot 55.9% unless they are scoring a lot in the paint or scoring on a lot of open/easy shots. The Pistons did both with little resistance.
Slimjr
March 9th, 2012
11:00 pm
Man that Detroit defense was on lockdown holding the Hawks to 2 FG’s in the entire 3rd? Wow….
James
March 9th, 2012
11:04 pm
“Question: who was guarding Maxiell most of the game, and why couldn’t that person ( those people ) keep him in check?”
From what I noticed, a combination of players defended him. Josh got the initial assignment, but with some of the switching that occurred, I saw Marvin on him at times, and Ivan as well. I’d have to go back and look at the game again, but the main issue I saw was the Hawks just kept on giving him open jumpers and failed to get a hand up, and he kept making them pay. When he wasn’t scoring on jumpers, he was just outworking everyone inside to get offensive rebounds, or just rebounds in general. No one was boxing him out consistently, and he did the same thing he did last time the Hawks played against the Pistons. I don’t know why the Hawks wouldn’t respect his game after already seeing what he did to them last time, but apparently, they didn’t think he was good enough to hurt them, and they found out the wrong way that he was.
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
11:05 pm
I agree that Josh individually and the Hawks as a whole were bad on D and on the boards in this game, like I pointed out several times throughout the game, but that post was directed at the people who take one efficiency stat by itself and use it to pass judgment on how well someone played. Even with the lackluster team D, the Hawks were beating the Pistons while Josh was in the game. +11 with him, -12 without him, including -10 in that second half stretch alone.
James
March 9th, 2012
11:06 pm
That one play in the fourth quarter where Maxiell had that one-handed put-back dunk basically summed up the game for the Hawks on the interior. No one boxed him out and he just wanted the ball more than everyone else.
northcyde
March 9th, 2012
11:09 pm
Damn. Which Hawk was 2 – 9 fg in the 2nd half?
soullrenaissance
March 9th, 2012
11:11 pm
ISO Joe MUST GO! I am perplexed and I must have missed the Josh Smith trade request….hmmm…maybe Smith can leverage his clout with the front office (which he should have an abundance of) and demand LD be shown the door and the hiring of a legit NBA coach or else he wants out. O’brien you are right with that number 1 top dog spot post. He should be APEX leader on the team because he is. He is the only one with ever-burning fire – despite his limitations.
LD is behind the (8) for unimaginative play calling.
Rusty
March 9th, 2012
11:11 pm
Grandad LD coached a horrible game. He yanks JT around, he left KH almost the entire 3rd. KH just dribbles around in circles never really doing anything . KH is not a threat at any time & is nowhere as good as JT on defense. I almost have to believe LD preaches to JT that he is a pg & has to not look to score for himself. LD wanted JJ to go iso,JT knew enough not to take the shot.why the hell did he have JJ bring the ball up. Of course MW had the ball in his hands for a second after Jj’s shot.LD coached a real bad game,to many stupid decisions to talk about. This team wins games inspire of his coaching.the worst thing he has done is trying to fk JT up. He gives him no trust or confidence.
High-sider
March 9th, 2012
11:12 pm
Chris Paul (36pts, 11asts) and Mo Williams (33pts) got busy tonight. Clippers file down Spurs 120-108.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
March 9th, 2012
11:20 pm
Up 9 at halftime I said we had to be very very careful.
Same ole Hawks.
A bunch of nice guys
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
March 9th, 2012
11:22 pm
Najeh Davenpoop
March 9th, 2012
10:35 pm
When Joe kicked it back out to Teague, I have no idea why he went out to the perimeter instead of staying in the post against Stuckey and asking for the ball again.
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Teague hesitated too. Josh was on 3pt line. What a joke of a coaching staff to not even draw up a play
Rusty
March 9th, 2012
11:22 pm
JT has all the talent in the world just like his brother. The first quarter it looked like JJ ,MW & JS was trying to play keep away not letting JT into the game. I am waiting for him to leave & to be a real good pg somewhere else. He is such a great improvement on defense from a previous
Pg & really does not turn the ball over. He also is the only hawk who really goes to the basket. The only thing he really needs is to not have a coach sticking it up his butt .
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
March 9th, 2012
11:23 pm
Joe with 2 boards in 36 minutea. Yet no one else in this damn city calls him out consistently besides me
Michael Cunningham
March 9th, 2012
11:24 pm
new blog posted. shutting down this thread.