Vivlamore back from NYC. Here is your quick game thread for tonight’s game against the Magic.
The news today is that Kirk Hinrich will start in the backcourt with Jeff Teague with Joe Johnson out.
Here is coach Larry Drew’s thoughts on the move:
“From a matchup standpoint, we like the matchups,” Drew said. “We play a little faster. Just to tweak it. See how both Jeff and Kirk play with one another. We’ve been wanting to experiment with that anyway. They’ve been out on the floor before so we will put them out there as starters and see if they can generate anything.”
The move allows Drew to use Willie Green off the bench, where he has provided a spark this season. Green started for Marvin Williams Monday in Chicago and for Johnson in New York Wednesday.
“Willie has been doing a really good job the last couple of weeks,” Drew said. “He’s done a really good job coming off the bench with his ability to score. Moving him back to the bench gives us that punch again.”
I’m a little behind after traveling this morning so take it away folks.
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O'Brien
February 23rd, 2012
8:23 pm
I know its early, but I wonder if Rod put money on the Magic?
Illumination
February 23rd, 2012
8:23 pm
“Pargo is on fire.”
So saith the troll
crazy_88
February 23rd, 2012
8:23 pm
Offense runs so much better when Tracy is setting the table…He should be playing the point forward position all the time …LD when are you going to wake up and see that ??
High-sider
February 23rd, 2012
8:23 pm
Pargo is “en fuego.” 5-5 from the field and 3-3 from the 3pt arc., 13pts.
Sautee
February 23rd, 2012
8:24 pm
I only post as Illumination when I see you on the sight. I’m not really a troll. That’s some body else
O'Brien
February 23rd, 2012
8:24 pm
Rod,
Is there any question that Pargo is much better than Hinrich..
Pargo at $854K is definitely better than Kirk at $8 mil, which is why Hawks should trade Kirk if possible.
IceColdATLien
February 23rd, 2012
8:25 pm
Tmac’s defense has been a nice surprise this year, especially considering his injury-caused lack of lateral mobility. I’m curious what his per-48 min D efficiency is? (Najeh Poop, I’m sure you have those numbers handy)
Big Lou
February 23rd, 2012
8:25 pm
Zaza is D12 Krytonite.
Sautee
February 23rd, 2012
8:25 pm
Ok did you know that was me posting as crazy_8 ?
Najeh Davenpoop
February 23rd, 2012
8:25 pm
Dwight is looking like basura tonight.
IceColdATLien
February 23rd, 2012
8:26 pm
Zaza bets D12 down the court A LOT.. even noticed that in their last game, too.
Luke Cage
February 23rd, 2012
8:26 pm
Man I see why Dwight wants out of orlando, this team and its philosophy is a straight joke.
Shoot the Messenger
February 23rd, 2012
8:27 pm
Yes its quite clear that Pargo is much better than teague in less than half the developmental time.
Sautee, get some help bro.
Big Lou
February 23rd, 2012
8:27 pm
Man, OKC is going to destroy us. Still going to that game, though. I like watching Durant play.
LoLo
February 23rd, 2012
8:27 pm
Way to silence the haters, Kirk Hinrich!
Sautee
February 23rd, 2012
8:28 pm
Sautee
February 23rd, 2012
8:24 pm
“I only post as Illumination when I see you on the sight. I’m not really a troll. That’s some body else”
Clearly that was T-s and not me. Here’s how you can tell. I know the difference between “sight” and “site”, and obviously T-s, trying to post as me, does not. Maybe he’ll learn, though.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 23rd, 2012
8:28 pm
According to this, the Hawks are significantly better defensively when T-Mac is on the floor, although part of that is because he mostly plays against backups. But yeah, the eye test tells me he’s been pretty good on D this year, especially closer to the basket.
Rod from College Park
February 23rd, 2012
8:28 pm
“I know its early, but I wonder if Rod put money on the Magic?”
Yes I did. The same amount I put on the Knicks last night. I am quickly learning that Stan Van Gundy might be a worse coach than LD. One thing about the Hawks is they will let you back in the game. No Jameer Nelson was big.
O'Brien
February 23rd, 2012
8:28 pm
Hmmm, Could we beat Orlando twice this season without Twin? After all, isnt that the only reason we re-signed him?
Luke Cage
February 23rd, 2012
8:29 pm
LOL@Shoot the Messenger
Yeah thats why Pargo has bounced around in and out of the league, I like the guy but he is what he is a backup, but Pargo is ballin tonight, keep feeding the beast!!
Najeh Davenpoop
February 23rd, 2012
8:29 pm
The Magic offensive philosophy looks like NBA 2k. A bunch of long 3 point jumpers, with some attempts to feed Dwight mixed in.
I wonder how good that team would be if you replaced one of those stand still shooters with someone who could cut down the lane and finish at the basket.
Illumination
February 23rd, 2012
8:30 pm
“Yes its quite clear that Pargo is much better than teague in less than half the developmental time.”
“Sautee, get some help bro.”
So saith the hapless, clueless troll
Big Lou
February 23rd, 2012
8:30 pm
Where is Teague?
O'Brien
February 23rd, 2012
8:30 pm
Rod,
I can see why Pat Riley took over for SVG during the Heat’s championship run.
That being said, his GM has not done a good job with the roster either.
And I look for the Hawks to have a bad 3rd quarter
ntrigue
February 23rd, 2012
8:30 pm
Put Josh and Teague back in!!!
IceColdATLien
February 23rd, 2012
8:31 pm
Rod and O’Brien, the only problem with comparing Pargo and Kirk is the defensive side of the ball. Pargo is obviously the better shooter but, then again, Pargo wouldn’t be in the League if he couldn’t shoot cuz he can’t D-up, doesn’t see the court very well for assists, isn’t a great ball handler, and really can’t take dudes off the dribble. He’s your consummate bench dead-eye shooter, but can’t really play major minutes… it’s why so many teams have let him go over the years: He’s enticing for his stroke, but the other deficiencies mean nobody really wants to pay him like a major-minutes guy.
That said, I’m sure as hell glad we got him!
Big Lou
February 23rd, 2012
8:31 pm
Teague > Kirk. Stupid LD.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 23rd, 2012
8:31 pm
2 foul rule and Pargo on fire keeping Teague on the bench. I think the 2 foul rule is dumb, but when Pargo is playing this well I don’t mind.
Illumination
February 23rd, 2012
8:32 pm
“I only post as Illumination when I see you on the sight. I’m not really a troll. That’s some body else”
Clearly that was T-s and not me. Here’s how you can tell. I know the difference between “sight” and “site”, and obviously T-s, trying to post as me, does not. Maybe he’ll learn, though.
So saith the troll
Najeh Davenpoop
February 23rd, 2012
8:32 pm
Zaza is just working harder than Dwight on both ends.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 23rd, 2012
8:33 pm
Kirk with the patented brick off the dribble with 20 seconds left on the clock.
LoLo
February 23rd, 2012
8:34 pm
They are up by 17 – let Teague chill.
Luke Cage
February 23rd, 2012
8:34 pm
Well orlando tragic fans start saying your goodbye’s to D12, I would hate to be a center on that team.
Big Lou
February 23rd, 2012
8:34 pm
That’s why Teague is doing horrible lately. LD keeping him benched.
Sautee
February 23rd, 2012
8:34 pm
Zaza is a warrior tonight.
Shoot the Messenger
February 23rd, 2012
8:34 pm
Hinrich has 3 assists and Pargo is running with the starters. This could be good.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 23rd, 2012
8:35 pm
Marvin got caught on the switch guarding Dwight, but Ish Smith jacked up a jumper instead of dumping it down to the post. That’s where Jameer Nelson would have made a difference.
Illumination
February 23rd, 2012
8:36 pm
“Hinrich has 3 assists and Pargo is running with the starters. This could be good.”
So saith the troll
Illumination
February 23rd, 2012
8:37 pm
“Teague looks much better on the bench. Maybe he can get some assist passing out gatoraid or hater aid or something.”
So saith the troll
Luke Cage
February 23rd, 2012
8:37 pm
I think you got the Hater Aide part Shoot the Messenger lol, but hey its your opinion, makes for good comedy reading though.
LoLo
February 23rd, 2012
8:37 pm
Who said Teague has been horrible lately – he was high scorer last night with 18.
Shoot the Messenger
February 23rd, 2012
8:38 pm
Tmac and Hinrich both have 3 assists. teague is nursing that 1. He doesnt know how to run an offense
Illumination
February 23rd, 2012
8:39 pm
“Tmac and Hinrich both have 3 assists. teague is nursing that 1. He doesnt know how to run an offense”
So saith the troll
Shoot the Messenger
February 23rd, 2012
8:40 pm
Luke if I make you laugh then Im ok with that. I can appreciate a good sense of humor and I try to spin it with flavor….
tip of the hat your way bro
Rod from College Park
February 23rd, 2012
8:40 pm
“Pargo wouldn’t be in the League if he couldn’t shoot cuz he can’t D-up, doesn’t see the court very well for assists, isn’t a great ball handler, and really can’t take dudes off the dribble.”
At this point in his career, Hinrich can’t do any of those things either.
Ronjo
February 23rd, 2012
8:40 pm
Wow. It’s amazing how ineffective the Magic looked in that first half. You have to give the Hawks some credit for being active on defense, but at the same time, the Magic really looked lost out there. I feel bad for Stan Van Gundy right now. The Magic couldn’t even get into their half court sets, and it seems like nearly ever shot they took was a poor shot. At this rate, the Hawks may win by 30+.
High-sider
February 23rd, 2012
8:40 pm
Pargo seems like a clean cut young man, no tattoos [as far as I can see], fairly well-spoken. I don’t understand why Drew doesn’t give him consistent minutes. He’s playing well tonight and he played somewhat well against the Bulls in Chicago.
Illumination
February 23rd, 2012
8:41 pm
“Luke if I make you laugh then Im ok with that. I can appreciate a good sense of humor and I try to spin it with flavor….”
“tip of the hat your way bro”
So saith the troll
The Monger
February 23rd, 2012
8:42 pm
Luke Cage…Yes Pargo has bounced around, but has it ever occurred to you that some players develop later than others after actually learning the game, sometimes it takes awhile to click and sometimes they just need to find the right system.. Im just saying….Pargo seems to have alot of these nights where he is on fire, or “ballin” as you put it. Scrubs dont put up on fire nights at the rate that Pargo has this year. In fact whenever a team has given him a chance he has produced…the only time Pargo has gotten significant minutes in a season 2003-2004 with Chicago (26.5 a night), he averaged 13.5 points a game, shot .429, and hit .377 from 3. I think some players need more time, and finally a chance. Thats huge to a player’s confidence when he is not taken out after 3 minutes of playing time every quarter. Ask Jeff Teague this year…
ntrigue
February 23rd, 2012
8:43 pm
Hinrich will play more mins than Teague again watch!