Williams ‘never’ demanded trade

Vivlamore reporting from New York.

Marvin Williams could not have been any clearer. The Hawks forward did not demand a trade nor has he complained about his offensive role on the team. Never.

On Wednesday, Williams disputed an ESPN report Tuesday that said as much.

Here it is in his words:

“For starters, I haven’t even been here,” said Williams who rejoined the team after missing Monday’s game in Chicago. “I buried my cousin on Monday and woke up Tuesday to three text messages and six phone calls saying that I requested a trade. This is news to me. I’m at home. I don’t know what is going on.

“I saw a lot about what was written but you can ask anybody, LD [Larry Drew] or anybody, I’ve never complained about anything since I’ve been here. You know that. Any reporter that has followed me since I’ve been in Atlanta since ’05 has never heard me complain about anything. I’ve never complained about starting, not starting, shots, no shots, minutes played. That is just no my nature to complain. I’ve always been thankful for everything I’ve ever gotten.

“You can ask my coach right now. You can ask [GM] Rick [Sund]. I’ve never asked those guys to trade me. Never. I understand that trades are part of this league and part of this business. If Rick and LD think there is something that can better suit the Atlanta Hawks and I’m involved in that package, I completely understand that. But I’ve never walked in there and asked those guys to trade me. I’ve never said that. To see what people wrote about me and said about me, man. The thing that hurts the most is no one even called and asked me. No one asked me ‘Did you say that?’ You are the first person to ask me.”

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Vino

February 22nd, 2012
12:13 pm

Thats good to hear but we still need some improvements with team!! we gotta do something with these extra players and their contracts

Right now its like – To keep josh Or not to keep Josh?

We all Know its time to fire LD T-Mac comments are very true!

honest_abe

February 22nd, 2012
12:19 pm

have to give credit to the guys on the blog for pointing it this out yesterday. the story never made sense. he’s at a funeral asking for a trade?

for all of marvin’s shortcomings on the court he didn’t deserve the negative publicity that came along with this made up rumor. jeff shultz and matt chernoff railing on the guy was weak and they owe the guy an apology. marvin never lived up to the hype but the guy as a human being is a stand up guy. he never asked to be picked 2nd. he never complains. he just goes out and tries to produce. now if we could just get him to learn how to dribble. i’ve never seen an nba player get called for double dribbling as much as marvin. heh.

Vino

February 22nd, 2012
12:23 pm

I thought when teague started being in commercials the organization finally bought in to JEFF
But the coach just like the last one (woody) has something against this guy We all know what happen to woody with his stupid B-ball logic.

Playing teague will increase your chances on keeping your job- woody/bibby
THis situation is best thing to happen to this team LD/Hinrich BYE BYE DREW!!!

bob

February 22nd, 2012
12:35 pm

“You can ask my coach right now. You can ask [GM] Rick [Sund]. I’ve never asked those guys to trade me. Never.

GO ask marvin’s agent if marvin has him shooping him around the nba.

STRETCH

February 22nd, 2012
12:37 pm

Its time to trade Kirk and Josh to LA for Gasol!

or

Its time to trade Marvin and Kirk for Kaman!

or

Its time to trade Kirk, Marvin and Zaza for Monta Ellis and Biedrins!

or

Its time to trade Josh and Kirk for Turkolu and Anderson!

Its just time for a move Sund!

rick

February 22nd, 2012
12:38 pm

If this is true… and I have no reason to doubt Marvin Williams…. Then shame on the AJC Sports Dept for publishing this rumor. This can hurt a young man like Marvin to the core and it is much bigger that the game of basketball.. I love the Hawks and have for many years and I want them to win as much as any other fan… but this is just plane cruel….Just because you dont like the way a man plays ball… dont publish a rumor like this when he is at a family’s funeral !!!!

Section 303

February 22nd, 2012
12:40 pm

I believe Marvin. I don’t know the guy personnally, but just from watching him and following the team all these years it seems very unlikely he would start pouting and demanding a trade. It’s possible that his agent or the Hawks have been shopping him around, but I’m betting that is all there is to this non-story. I think ESPN is just doing what ESPN does, trying to act like they have some sort of scoop when they actually don’t.

Take away Bill Simmons and Scott Van Pelt and I pretty much hate every ESPN personality.

Durrtydogg

February 22nd, 2012
12:41 pm

The question is not did he ask for a trade. The question is who would want him? The fact is we are a team of complacent losers. Owners who tried to abandon the team only to have them forced back into their incapable hands. Players who are led by an overpaid, weak minded, second tier NBA player who only makes All Star teams because of name. We have a power forward with a shooting guard mentality. A center who lives in a power forwards body. A small forward who shoots jumpers all day long regardless of his shooting percentage. And finally a coach who cant get his team to follow him outside to his car. Our GM sits on his behind waiting on another month to pass so he can collect another check. We have went from one of the youngest team in the league to the oldest and we rely on old man Willie Green to score our points and some guy from the D-League to exhibit our toughness. I could go on and on but the Hawks are so awful it starts to get sad talking about them after awhile.

Section 303

February 22nd, 2012
12:42 pm

rick, I think Marvin will be OK. He may be young, but he is not 4-years old and made of glass. I’m sure he can handle a paper reporting something that was not entirely true. You’re being a little too dramatic about all this.b

Section 303

February 22nd, 2012
12:44 pm

STRETCH, if the Hawks ever traded Josh and Hinrich for Turkelou and Anderson, I’d walk. That would end my days supporting the organization.

I think you just proposed the worst fake trade that I have ever seen on here. You’ve lost the right to propose anymore. The Josh/Hinrich for Turkelou/Anderson is beyond atrocious.

Durrtydogg

February 22nd, 2012
12:46 pm

ESPN is the worst thing to happen to sports since Chris Berman picked up a Mic. They are the reason these kids act the way they do on and off the field because they sensationalize everything. The main reason I got Comcast is because of CSS. Ill Take Sportsnite over Sportscenter any day.

rick

February 22nd, 2012
12:50 pm

Section 303… but when he is at a family funeral?? You must admit, that was pretty cold hearted.I still say shame on the AJC for publishing this. It just wasnt right. Not trying to be “too dramatic”. just think was wrong.. If it is true..

STRETCH

February 22nd, 2012
12:52 pm

303,

Who are you to tell someone they have lost a right? Just shows how much you know about performance and right now Anderson is pretty much outplyaing any front line guy we have. So from now on i will continue to post my opinions and ignore you. You have been told.

Brandon

February 22nd, 2012
12:58 pm

Smart move by Marvin to realize no one would want him anyway and deny this statement.

brad

February 22nd, 2012
12:59 pm

I DO NOT CARE IF THE GUY IS STAND UP! THAT DOES NOT WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS! TRADE MARVIN ANS (SOMEHOW) JOE. BUILD THIS TEAM AROUND AL AND JOSH. MAYBE EVEN TEAGUE?

Section 303

February 22nd, 2012
1:02 pm

STRETCH, Anderson is outplaying Josh? I would like to ask all the people who cover the NBA who they think is playing better, Josh or Ryan Anderson? I going Josh in a rout on that.

I realize Anderson is having a good year. The guy is role player, though. Think NFL for a second…remember when the Bucs shelled out big dough for Alvin Harper? Or, when the Falcons signed Price to the big contract? Both teams made a mistake on thinking a role player can be a star player. Not how it works.

Another example…this time NBA…making Mo Williams an All Star a few years ago. He’s not one.

Anderson is a good player. He fills what the Magic want him to do. Josh’s ceiling is way, way higher. So, there…you’ve been schooled on how this game works. Quiz tomorrow. Be ready.

ICECOLD

February 22nd, 2012
1:04 pm

So horford Collins and Joe Johnson hurt…. U got t mac complain about playin time, josh smith got snubbed , Teague first year startin tryin to figure out how to run things ….
Still need a decent center , so …

Sounds like a disfunctional family …

Crazy season, I wouldn’t be suprised if we don’t make the playoffs. Everything that’s goin on !!

Section 303

February 22nd, 2012
1:05 pm

rick, I hear you. The funeral aspect of this Marvin story is cold. I just do not think it will cause him to lose any sleep. It shouldn’t, anyways.

Really, does anyone expect anything less from today’s media? That’s not a knock on them, either. Just the way things are. The other side of that arguement, would come from the press. I’m sure they would point out that players fall all over themselves for coverage about things that are good. So, can’t have it both ways. Have to cover the bad or cold (in this case), too.

jay

February 22nd, 2012
1:08 pm

I like this story better when it was funny. Now it’s not.

layinlow

February 22nd, 2012
1:09 pm

The report from espn chris broussard said marvin was unhappy and wanted out. It didn’t neccesarily say that he asked the org for a trade. A guy could privately tell close confidants that he wanted out without walking into the org and demading a trade. There is a difference between the two. Broussard is a highly respected basketball guy and I find it hard to believe that he made this story up. The truth could lie somewhere in the middle. Maybe he hasn’t ask the org for a trade and maybe he hasn’t complained to teamates and coaches. But maybe privately off the court he has made statements to people about wanting out of atlanta. Who knows.

Bitter and Angry

February 22nd, 2012
1:10 pm

Marvin may be fat.
Marvin may not be able to take it to the hole.
Marvin may be lazy.
Marvin may be overpaid.
Marvin may be covered with tattoes.
Marvin may stink at everything but a Randy Whitmanesque jumper.

But he’s right. He does not complain. I’ll give him that.

pointguardslim

February 22nd, 2012
1:12 pm

I’ve never complained about starting, not starting, shots, no shots, minutes played. That is just no my nature to complain. I’ve always been thankful for everything I’ve ever gotten.
————–
Dec 2010
Now, we’ve talked to Josh Childress before about coming off the bench (he didn’t like how he was treated as a non-starter by coach and team while in the ATL) and we’ve seen Jamal Crawford embrace the role (being nationally recognized as something more than a volume scorer and playing on losers will do that), so now we turn to Marvin Williams, whom some have been asking to come off the bench for a while, given that he might be able to shine more offensively since he wouldn’t be fighting the other members of the starting five for shots and also helping an offensively challenged second unit.

With Larry Drew going with Jason Collins in Orlando the other night, Marvin went to the bench to try on the role for size. His thoughts? Ummmm….maybe he’s not quite down with that yet.

From Hoopsworld’s Lang Greene:

“No. I wasn’t cool with it man,” said Williams to HOOPSWORLD about being benched. “It was something different. I’ve been starting here since my second year here, but it was a choice he (Drew) felt like he had to make and I had to live with it. I don’t know if he’ll ever make that change again and I wouldn’t be surprised if he did. But like I said, I’ve been a starter pretty much since I’ve been here but he chose to make that change and I have to live with it.”

http://www.peachtreehoops.com/2010/12/23/1893467/marvin-williams-doesnt-want-to-come-off-the-bench-for-the-atlanta

Bitter and Angry

February 22nd, 2012
1:13 pm

rick

February 22nd, 2012
12:38 pm

If this is true… and I have no reason to doubt Marvin Williams…. Then shame on the AJC Sports Dept for publishing this rumor. This can hurt a young man like Marvin to the core and it is much bigger that the game of basketball.. I love the Hawks and have for many years and I want them to win as much as any other fan… but this is just plane cruel….Just because you dont like the way a man plays ball… dont publish a rumor like this when he is at a family’s funeral !!!!
******************
Plane cruel? Nice.

The man CAN’T play ball AT ALL. That’s the problem. It’s ok not to like watching him flop around on the court and accomplish little other than contributing to more losses as the year goes on.

Fire LD!!

pointguardslim

February 22nd, 2012
1:16 pm

“I don’t know if he’ll ever make that change again and I wouldn’t be surprised if he did.” Marvin Williams on Josh smith at small forward, Horford at PF, and Jason Collins at center.

Hawks won that game iirc. Now this was the thinking on making the team better. Al Horford was the most productive/best player on the Hawks.

If the idea is to make the team’s best player, {Josh Smith}, more productive and not have to gather fouls defending the bigger players in the league, then Larry Drew may just have the contractually bound Marvin fester a bit while he does what he thinks is best for the team.

Bitter and Angry

February 22nd, 2012
1:17 pm

Who cares if quarter pounder was cool with being benched. Who gives a damn, period. These guys stink out the wazoo and think anyone cares about stupid stuff like that? Play like you care for a change and quit worrying about starting.

Typical, tattoed, spoil sport.

STRETCH

February 22nd, 2012
1:25 pm

303,

Anyone would tell you that Josh is the most athletic but at the same time one of the dumbest players in the NBA right now. A guy that cant shoot, but keeps telling himself he can.

Kinda like you, a guy who thinks hes a sports writer and deep down inside he’s telling himself he is. So the only thing Josh has over Anderson is athletic ability…THATS IT.

And what the heck does Alvin Harper and Pierless Price have to do with the 19-13, soon to be 19-14, 2012 version of the Atlanta Hawks???

And i dont recall Josh Smith hearing anything about him being anywhere near the All-star festivities unless he is gonna hold the ball rack for somebody. Maybe he can take Joe’s place…NOT.

Atleast Ryan is participating in the 3 pt contest. So…BOOOYAH!!!

Bitter and Angry

February 22nd, 2012
1:40 pm

Abolutely right, STRETCH…..

dumb as a brick.

Michael Cunningham

February 22nd, 2012
1:55 pm

@rick: “If this is true… and I have no reason to doubt Marvin Williams…. Then shame on the AJC Sports Dept for publishing this rumor.”

you have your facts mixed up. the story originated with ESPN’s Chris Broussard. this is the first item the AJC has posted about this story, with the exception of my (skeptical) Tweet about Broussard’s report yesterday followed by a denial from Marvin through Hawks PR. the timeline was: ESPN reported it, C-Viv checked it out, Marvin denied it and so here is the story about that denial.

why should the AJC have any shame for doing what we should do and following up a report from a major outlet?

pointguardslim

February 22nd, 2012
2:02 pm

“So the only thing Josh has over Anderson is athletic ability…THATS IT.”

And that’s why Atlanta fans get ridiculed. If you guys are Atlanta fans. Ryan Anderson has not topped 3 assists in his career.

If Anderson couldn’t shoot you’d think he’d even be in the NBA. He’s dumb as bricks and soft as polyester.

Josh just put 30 on him. And it was Anderson’s teammate that said Smith was an All Star after that very game.

Idiotic. Lets trade Smith for Turkoglu + Anderson. Then watch them move Smith to the SF and sign Brian Cardinal off a trash heap and win the championship.

Smith – small forward capable of playing all 3 frontcourt positions and putting up HoF versatility
Ryan Anderson – 6′10 shooter with no floor game

ole richie

February 22nd, 2012
2:07 pm

clean house and re build this team around a new look josh smith.

pointguardslim

February 22nd, 2012
2:12 pm

Remember when the Heat tried to be the Hawks in the playoffs?

“When the Heat ‘go small’ LeBron James or James Jones move to the power forward position. Miami had some success against Boston using this lineup and clearly this was Spoelstra’s strategy in Game 1 versus Chicago. He preferred speed and quickness to size and length. That’s why Zydrunas Ilgauskas, who started the first three games against Boston, and Erick Dampier weren’t even in uniform for Game 1.

Spoelstra might want to rethink his approach.

Not only did Chicago crush Miami on the boards, but the Heat ended up with only 10 fast break points. So much for being fast and quick. The Bulls outrebounded the Heat 45-33 and had 19 offensive rebounds. That unbelievable number of offensive boards amounted to a 31-8 advantage for Chicago in second-chance points. Chicago did an excellent job getting back on defense in transition and not turning the ball over, thus limiting Miami’s fast break opportunities.

The Heat’s starting center Joel Anthony only had six rebounds. Chris Bosh had nine boards and James six. Jones, who played 24 minutes, only managed to grab one rebound to go along with four points. If Miami goes small, James and Jones need to provide more help rebounding than seven boards combined.

On top of the enormous rebounding disparity, Miami committed 16 turnovers, while the Bulls shot 10 for 21 from beyond the arc.
You’d think having a smaller lineup on the floor would result in better ball handling and defense against 3-pointer shooters. Well, think again.”

I’ll be damned if that doesn’t sound like us.

glorydays

February 22nd, 2012
2:32 pm

Everyone here what Barkley said about the Hawks? There a bunch of nice guys, but they are not a good team…….. They need John Wayne.

STRETCH

February 22nd, 2012
2:33 pm

303,

Where you at man? Your boy Josh got passed over again! Now what does that tell you and all Josh lovers??? LOL!!!!

glorydays

February 22nd, 2012
2:33 pm

hear rather than here

Section 303

February 22nd, 2012
3:05 pm

STRETCH, I’d say Josh getting passed over is probably more his fault. Pretty clear now that his rep as a pouter and complainer (which I think he’s earned) has gotten in his way again. So, that’s my take on that.

As for the rest of what you said….”Josh lover”? Me?

Cris

February 22nd, 2012
3:07 pm

@STRETCH.

We dont need 6′10 perimeter players, we have guards for that. We need 6′10″ – 7 footers that are gonna go hard in the paint. So your trade proposal dosen’t make any sense.

ShAme spiral

February 22nd, 2012
3:14 pm

WRONG Michael Cunningham .. YOU wrote about it yesterday… And then TWEETED about the guy and how dare he ask for a trade and he’s a bust and the Hawks should’ve picked up Chris Paul and etc.. YOU are not a journalist Ur a blog writer so u saw that article on Espn and u jumped all over it and now you’re backtracking c
B/c u were proven wrong.. Ur the Hawks beat writer but you choose to publish rumors instead of calling the team directly .. It’s pathetic.. Say what u want about Marvin on Twitter cuz u would NEVER say it to his actual face.. He may not be the best, but at least he’s not a COWARD

James on Pharr Rd

February 22nd, 2012
3:20 pm

Is this supposed to be a bad rumor? Sounds like a leak from Sunnd’s office if you ask me: Marvin is one of the consummate pro’s, but the organization has been shopping him around the league for 4 years now

Joe D

February 22nd, 2012
4:46 pm

Here’s the trade:

Stephen Jackson wants out of Milwalkee and the Hawks need Marvin out of Atlanta. Jackson’s contract is 10 mil per yr with next year being its last. He has a nasty attitude/swagger with a solid SF game exactly what the Hawks need. Marvin’s deal is 7.5 per yr with 2 yrs left. Marvin needs a fresh start. He will never live up or down being the 2nd overall pick, so its best for both he and the Hawks to part ways.
The trade options are Jackson for Marvin, Collins, and probably Stackhouse in order for the salaries to match as well as the Hawks staying out of the Luxury Tax! The Bucks would have the options of buying out Collins and Stackhouse contracts or keeping them. Both contracts are expiring. Or Marvin and Kirk with carrot being Kirk’s expiring 8 mil. However, the Hawks would have to take another player like maybe the Lueir kid and throw in one of the Hawks’ second round picks.
Jackson would give the Hawks a scoring SF (15 – 18 per game) and provide the relief that JJ needs to product more. The doubling of JJ and primeter defense would have to stop because Jackson drives to the hoop and is a good FT shooter.
This is more logical and realistic trade for Hawks. Also on paper, it would make them a legitimate contender for the ECF.

Do the right thing!

hawkfan

February 22nd, 2012
5:01 pm

@ Michael Cunningham, there was an AJC article by Jeff Schultz talking about the marvin rumor yesterday, the link here: http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2012/02/21/report-marvin-williams-wants-out-ok-whats-the-joke/, and ShAme spiral, you are getting Jeff’s article confused with MC, he didn’t write it at all

Bitter and Angry

February 22nd, 2012
5:02 pm

Fire someone!!

pointguardslim

February 22nd, 2012
5:03 pm

Lol at the one line about Leuer. He’s outperformed for being a 2nd rounder. And they just drafted Tobias Harris for that SF spot. Although they could play them both together as swingmen.

idk what Milwaukee is doing. I think with Ersan (expiring, older), Moute, and Sanders(trending towards being a bust) they like Leuer’s contract too much even if it means holding onto/buying out Stephen Jackson.

Even if they don’t play him he’s making less than Stackhouse. lol

pointguardslim

February 22nd, 2012
5:05 pm

“play them together” refers to Marvin + Elias Harris.

pointguardslim

February 22nd, 2012
5:11 pm

The NYDN’s Frank Isola said this on the Mike Lupica Show (ESPN Radio) today

“I will say this. Brian Scalabrine, and as you know Mike he knows everything about the league, came over to me when the Bulls were in New York and said, ‘You know, you New York media guys keep writing about Dwight Howard but everyone in the league knows he’s going to Brooklyn.’

I said, ‘Really?’

He said, ‘Yeah absolutely, believe me that’ll be a done deal.’

And I’ve talked to some people from the Magic and that is NOT a lie. He wants to play in Brooklyn with Deron Williams. And I think the whole thing with Brooklyn and Adidas and everything else that’s involved. I think how we all had this feeling that Carmelo would be in New York, we’re all getting this feeling that Dwight will be in Brooklyn.”

tmc

February 22nd, 2012
5:31 pm

Marvin may not have demanded a trade, but I AM!
For the 4th straight year i am demanding Marvin be traded.

Get it done or (and) leave town ASG.

yoursporthouse dot com

February 22nd, 2012
5:47 pm

tmc,

The problem, no one wants ZERO on their team.

Tim

February 22nd, 2012
5:56 pm

@durrtydogg

Why do you always got something negative to say about somebody?? I mean seriously you need some serious help foreal, take your lame,hypocritical,non basketball knowledge ass somewhere else.You probably cant play basketball worth a damn why you doing all that talking.You wouldn’t know what to do if you got on the court you lame reject.

Tim

February 22nd, 2012
6:21 pm

@STRETCH

Don’t let me get started on you foreal. Who the hell are you to be calling someone dumb when you probably cant play worth a damn.Its kills me to see complete idiots like you saying stuff about somebody when you probably have no clue about the game.So take your rachet,sensitive and pathetic ass somewhere else with that.Josh Smith is one of the more important guys on that team he’s had his fair share of double,dbls this year and i know he’s made his mistakes through the season but for you to be saying the stuff your saying about him you need to get your head examine

Trade marvin for oden

February 22nd, 2012
6:24 pm

Broussard would not make that up. Nobody knows or cares about Marvin

And sund has not denied it.

Deafening silence from sund!

corporate tv ball sux

February 22nd, 2012
7:24 pm

basketball is a team sport. from the gm and coach, to the ball boy and guys on the bench. when one guy gets way more for doing the same as the other, friction is created. lets get back to running and passing the ball and playing like a team. josh and kirk bring energy to the floor and play team ball. on both ends of the floor. teague and tmac can replace joe. trade joe for gasol. or joe and marvin for dwight. no use putting new tires on a car with no engine!