Atlanta Hawks: Knicks 99, Hawks 82
Here is my updated game story from the Hawks lost to the Knicks Wednesday.
NEW YORK — How would the Hawks respond without Joe Johnson?
They stayed with the Knicks for 7 minutes, 16 seconds — and then they melted. The Knicks used a 16-0 run to end the first quarter and went on to a 99-82 victory over the Hawks on Wednesday night at Madison Square Garden.
Forget Lin-sanity. The Hawks are caught up in adversity.
With Johnson back in Atlanta nursing tendinitis in his left knee, he became the second All-Star the Hawks have been without this season. Al Horford is out with a torn pectoral muscle. While Johnson should not be out for an extended period of time, his loss compounded what has been a troublesome stint.
The Hawks (19-14) lost their third consecutive game on a just-completed 1-4 road trip. It was their eighth loss in the past 11 games. In those 11 games the Hawks have trailed by 30 points three times — including Wednesday — and by 20 points four other times.
“I want to see us respond to the fact that we have two All-Stars who won’t be here,” Hawks coach Larry Drew said before the game. “… I just personally feel that this is a true test to see what our team is made of, where we are at this point.”
After the Hawks took a 16-14 lead with 4:44 left in the first quarter, the Knicks went on the decisive run. They led 30-16 following the opening quarter. The Hawks turned the ball over eight times while making only seven field goals (7-for-20, 35 percent). With less than a minute to go in the first half, the Hawks trailed by 27 points. The Knicks’ lead was 30 points by early in the third quarter.
“We didn’t respond,” Drew said. “Particularly when they made a little push and pressured us a little bit we didn’t respond the way we should have. A game like tonight is one of those games you are going to have to bounce back from because we will have another game without Joe [Thursday] night. We have to play a little bit better each quarter, each guy has to give a little bit more.”
The Hawks went on a 19-2 run in the third quarter to close the gap to 13 points, 69-56. Jerry Stackhouse and Jeff Teague each made two 3-pointers in the run. But that has been the problem as of late. Such big runs don’t put the opposition away, they only make a blowout a little less ugly.
It was as close as the Hawks would get. The Knicks answered with a 17-2 run to take back control.
“We just got outplayed from the start,” Tracy McGrady said. “We just didn’t match their intensity. I think the first half we dug ourselves a deep hole. The second half we came out with a lot more intensity, a lot more energy but by that time it was too late.
Jeremy Lin, who has led the Knicks to wins in nine of their past 11 games and has become a city-wide sensation, scored a team-high 17 points with nine assists. He watched most of the fourth quarter from the bench. In the past 11 games (10 starts), Lin has averaged 23.9 points, 3.9 rebounds, 9.2 assists, 2.8 steals and 5.5 turnovers.
“It’s tough to guard him,” Teague said. “They play a thousand pick and rolls. It’s always going to be tough coming off a pick and roll.”
The Knicks, who got points from nine players, also got double-figures scoring from Steve Novak (17), Landry Fields (16), Carmelo Anthony (15), and J.R. Smith (12).
Teague led the Hawks with a game-high 18 points. Willie Green scored 15 points and Josh Smith added 13 points.
“We were a little careless in the first half with the ball,” Smith said. “We had opportunities in the fast break and the half court to score the basketball but we turned the ball over too many times. It seemed like every time we did that, they capitalized on it.”
The Hawks host the Magic on Thursday night before beginning the All-Star break. It will be another game without Johnson.
“It’s definitely tough,” Smith said of missing the six-time All-Star and the team’s leading scorer. “You are taking away 18 points a game. The defense concentrates so hard on trying to stop him that it opens a lot of stuff with everybody else. We definitely missed him tonight.”
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FACTS
February 23rd, 2012
11:39 am
“He’s a guy you have to pay attention to on the scouting report, but you don’t know which one shows up. ‘Good’ Josh can kill you, ‘Bad’ Josh becomes our sixth man. All-Stars don’t have that many highs and lows. His highs are unbelievable, but no all-star has his lows. That’s why you respect Kevin Love. His bad nights are 16 and 11, his great night are 36 and 17″
- Anonymous NBA Coach
That’s the cold, hard facts on Josh Smith, no matter what his man love fan boy association on this blog says.
SteveW
February 23rd, 2012
11:42 am
Some things working in the Hawks favor:
Philly has dropped 5 straight. This without losing 2 of their top 3 players like the Hawks have.
Philly has played 19 Home games to 15 road games, while the Hawks have played 14 Home games to 19 road games. So we play quite a few more Home games in the last half of the season than they do. Now if we can just win at Home…
The Hawks are only 1/2 game back of the Sixers right now.
The Celts have a losing record at 15-17. This while playing 19 Home games to 13 road games.
NYK – 19 home games, 15 road games to this point.
Orlando 18 H and 16 A
So besides Indy, Chicgao, and Miami, we have a much more favorable H/A schedule than the other teams we’re battling for the 3 or 4 seed.
We’re 4 1/2 up on Cleveland and 5 1/2 up on the Bucks who are currently at the 9 and 10 seeds.
And Cleveland has a brutal 2nd half schedule. Not only do they have to play more Away games, they have to cram more games in. They’ve played 2 games less than the Hawks, and 4 games less than the Bulls and Pistons. So they’ll probably fade I would guess.
So the Hawks are in a decent spot to make a run at the 3 or 4 seed.
KREATE PRO
February 23rd, 2012
11:46 am
If they get rid of larry drew RIGHT NOW!
Ra'mon
February 23rd, 2012
11:47 am
When Kevin Love averages 2.5 blocks, 2.0 steals, and 4 assists on those ‘bad nights’ let me know. The coach who said that could be any of the Western Conference’s coaches with a losing record. And with all respect right now Love is the best PF in the game, so that’s a mute point.
KevinM
February 23rd, 2012
11:50 am
Looking way back when Marvin first arrived, remember the guy who was in the way of Marvin getting minutes? Al Harrington.
How good would he look on this roster now? The guy is making less than Marvin is today and still outproducing him.
That is the draft pick we should have moved on from. And SteveW, you are right. Simply blowing this team up doesn’t resolve anything. You still have the same management group here making the decisions, and so far, our decision making has been less than average:
Draft picks still here under Rick Sund: 1 (and that is by accident)
Players Rick Sund has traded for on this team: 1 (still underachieving)
Its all about free agents under this regime.
O'Brien
February 23rd, 2012
11:51 am
From hoopinion;
The head coach
It’s not easy to coach without 40% of the team’s payroll, but it shouldn’t be easy to oversee a structureless mess, either. Outside of Smith, Johnson, and Pachulia, no one’s getting regular minutes or has a defined role. Johnson and Smith arguably don’t have roles defined toward their strengths. With the rest of the roster on one-year deals or possessing a history of mistrust and self-doubt from the franchise, it’s not surprising they’re susceptible to a not very good team that, to one-up the Hawks in a profound way, has a defined system..
We’ve heard LD talk about motivation, energy, getting jumper happy. And these are the same excuses we’ve been hearing since Woody was here. So what’s changed?
It all starts at the top. Bad ownership leads to bad management, which leads to bad decisions. ASG needs to go.
O'Brien
February 23rd, 2012
11:52 am
More from hoopinion;
Kirk Hinrich: Looked horrible again though Larry Drew’s reluctance to play Hinrich and Teague together is approaching Marvin/McGrady levels. If the Hawks think they’re showcasing Hinrich for a trade, they’re not improving the potential return..
I wonder if there are any Hinirch supporters still out there? When will he get his legs back? When will he start making shots? And 3 turnovers in only 15 minutes? And 0 assists in 29 minutes from your starting PG is not going to get it done (although Jeff did score 18).
STRETCH
February 23rd, 2012
11:52 am
Ramon,
You are missing the point. Love goes to work and he wears a hard hat. Smith goes to work and his head is hard. Thats what me and the NBA and FANS agree on, thats why he is NOT in the all star game. The dude got passed over for what 4 years in row and twice in the same season???
SteveW,
Yep, thats what im talking about. That game against Phoenix…thats how you get voted as an all-star. But Josh needs to do that more than a few games here and there. He takes himself out mentally of a lot games.
And if Ramon doesnt see that, then he’s not a basketball fan, he’s just a Josh Smith fan. Its a team sport, no matter how many highlights a person gets, he has to be able to pick his team up some nights and carry them, not just to the end of the game, but to victory.
Josh hasnt figured that out after 8 years as a professional basketball player. Do whatever you can do to make the other guys better. If Josh would move down to the blocks and get out of the way of the guys that are supposed to be shooting and make people defend him some, the offense would run much smoother.
For example, ever watched them come down court of offense? Eeveryone heads to the perimeter including Josh. Everybody wants to be a shooter while they only Zaza down low lots of times.
Like the coach said, “he is uncoachable.” Dont get me wrong, i love the guy, but when it comes to Team, he is not playing for that. He is on another agenda. But i know for sure, if they moved him for a couple of nice pieces, we all would see a better product.
I know it is NOT all his fault but sometimes in order to have a smooth running engine, you have to change some plugs.
KevinM
February 23rd, 2012
11:52 am
In case you guys didn’t get the invite, the marketing team is having open visits today to get in on 2012-13 season tickets.
You can’t make this stuff up…..it is the ASG at its finest.
kwooden
February 23rd, 2012
11:53 am
I hate these kinds of losses when the national media is watching but it was clearly going to be a tough game. Obviously Josh takes way to many long twos and isn’t a good enough shooter to get away with it. (STRETCH calm down!) Josh wasn’t going inside against NY because of Amare and Chandler, so he had to take jumpers and he wasn’t hitting. This team is finally really showing the problems it clearly would have without Al in the middle. As many outside shots as AL takes, he actual took shots in the post, which Zaza is unable to do. Zaza needs to take and make some hooks inside for this team to even compete with good teams for an entire game. Someone has to balance the floor, but we always have 5 guys that take jump shots and that just doesn’t work for an entire game.
KREATE PRO
February 23rd, 2012
11:57 am
DROOPY MUST GO… DROOPY MUST GO!!!
SteveW
February 23rd, 2012
12:00 pm
I’ve also noticed that a teams Strength of Schedule (SOS) based on Hollinger affects there record in most cases, that and Home and Away.
Our SOS the last 10 is .586, by far the hardest in the League over that time span. The Nuggest are second at .576, and they’re 3-7 over that span also.
So we’ve played the toughest schedule, and been on the road for most of it over the last 10.
Overall, after 33 games, who has played the toughest schedule in the East according to Hollinger among the Top 8? The Atlanta Hawks. Boston is way back in 2nd place, and they’ve played alot more of their games at Home.
Miami is 3rd in SOS among the Top 8 in the East, and the Magic are 4th.
Miami’s last 10 games have been among some pretty anemic teams however.
Orlando had played a pretty tough schedule, but they had played like 7 of 10 at home when these stats were compiled Monday (I think it is Monday when Hollinger comes out with this stuff).
The 76′ers have played the 5th easiest schedule in the League, the entire NBA. But there last 10 has been pretty tough, and their collapsing.
Over the last 10 games, the Bulls have played the 2nd easiest schedule (the Pistons with the easiest by far – laughable really, one of the lowest I’ve ever seen).
The Pacers 4th and the Knicks 5th easiest over that time span.
Overall, the Pacers have played the 3rd easiest schedule
The Bulls 2nd easiest
And the Knicks have played the easiest schedule in the NBA.
We’ll see what happens when all these teams get into the toughest parts of their schedules like the Hawks have.
Grandad
February 23rd, 2012
12:02 pm
JaeEvolution
r e; John Jenkins:
* a shooter with his talent is always a position of need
* use amnesty clause on Joe / or trade Joe;
then [2] guard becomes a position of need
Astro Joe
February 23rd, 2012
12:05 pm
Kirk stunk up the gym last night, especially in the first half. We have gone from the promise of solid PG for 48 minutes to small guards who can have good scoring nights (Teague & Pargo), play solid D (Teague & Hinrich) and do virtually nothing in regards to producing assists.
A team with poor PG play (in terms of the function of running a team’s half-court offense) and awful rebounding is doomed for failure.
Ra'mon
February 23rd, 2012
12:19 pm
Stretch, if Josh moved down to the block, he would rarely get the ball, because no one on the team knows how to feed the post. Even if the Hawks had some one like Felton or Andre Miller, I could see that. But now the Hawks only have SCORING GUARDS. Also, what game can you point to and say that Josh’s jumpers was the reason the team lost? Because despite his jumpers, all of the top offensive lineups on the team includes Josh. And Josh routinely has the highest +/- on the team, game in and out. Majority of what the coaches were saying, were from seasons past. But this season Josh has clearly been the best player on this team. The same way if Josh doesn’t shoot those jumpers against Phoenix, the Hawks lose that game.
CP4Life
February 23rd, 2012
12:20 pm
@ SteveW… Your facts sound good, but ONLY good if your content with just making playoffs. I think the real issue is about being able to compete with the elite teams of the NBA.
vava74
February 23rd, 2012
12:25 pm
Lack of a true system, rotations, roles, understanding match ups…
LACK OF COACHING. PERIOD
Green against Landry produced a deficit of 3 points in the first 7 minutes and in the second quarter it even worse.
Hinrich against JR Smith was again an awful match up immediately on paper (given Hinrich’s current condition) and that produced yet another major deficit.
We were – AGAIN – on play, only 2 down when LD took Teague out.
From that point onwards it was -12 and the game was lost.
Teague is 23 and has proven, repeatedly that he can withstand the beating of playing 40+ minutes.
KEEP TEAGUE ON THE FLOOR !!!!
Najeh Davenpoop
February 23rd, 2012
12:27 pm
That quote about Josh being hard to coach essentially proves him right. Coaches don’t pick All Star reserves based on who is playing the best, but rather who they would be able to coach more easily.
Kobe Bryant was hard to coach in his prime, too, but he deserved his All Star spot because he played better than the other Western Conference guards. That’s the only thing that matters. That’s the only reason the All Star game exists. It’s the All Star game, not the All Coachable game.
Josh is obviously nowhere near the player Kobe is, but the point is that he’s better than other Eastern Conference front court players who got picked ahead of him, specifically Deng and Hibbert. Who cares if he’s hard to coach? That is IRRELEVANT for the All Star game.
Politics.
Astro Joe
February 23rd, 2012
12:29 pm
STRETCH is right about one thing, Zaza definitel goes one place on fast break opportunities, to the front of the rim. Sadly, even Horford wasn’t always doing that in the recent past (when he was playing of course). This team, almost to a man, has devolved into a jump-shooting team. Even fast break opps are considered a chance to hoist a jumper. Shame.
Geemack
February 23rd, 2012
12:32 pm
Teague is 23, Josh 25, Al 25, Joe 29, and Marvin is 25….why are they not running the ball more, instead of walking it up the court.
Astro Joe
February 23rd, 2012
12:35 pm
So when Josh does make it to the All-Star game, I wonder if folk will credit his political savvy or his on-court production?
Najeh Davenpoop
February 23rd, 2012
12:38 pm
Also funny that they compared Josh to Love. Josh isn’t as good as the best PF in the game, so he shouldn’t be an All Star. Give me a break. Maybe if they made a similar comparison of Luol Deng to LeBron James, they would figure out that he doesn’t belong there either.
And whoever that Eastern Conference coach is who thinks Josh would score 50 if he was on the block should be fired. You need ball skills to be able to score, not just athleticism.
STRETCH
February 23rd, 2012
12:42 pm
You also need “brain skills” to realize that you CAN NOT always shoot from 20 feet while knowing that is NOT your shot either.
Astro Joe
February 23rd, 2012
12:42 pm
Yesterday, Ra’mon suggested that LD should be as masterful at using his key players as Phil Jackson or Popovich. If LD’s is being measured against the two best head coaches in the past 20 years, surely we can measure Josh against the best PF in the past 2 years.
Bulldawg
February 23rd, 2012
12:44 pm
Michael Gearon and the rest of the owners,
The reason Atlanta Hawks fans don’t believe you really want to win is because you continue to accept mediocrity (if we can even call this team mediocre). If you really want to convince us that you want to win, then make some changes that really matter. Blow up this group. They are boring and painful to watch.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 23rd, 2012
12:48 pm
For the record, Kevin Love takes 4.4 3s a game and hits them at a 34.8% clip. So much for him staying on the blocks all the time.
Ra'mon
February 23rd, 2012
12:48 pm
AJ, I tell you Josh measures a lot better against Love, than LD measures against even Rick Adelman, lol. I wasn’t measuring LD against them. What I was saying, he could’ve taken a page out of their book. In the world of coaching, nothing you do is innovative now. Every play you have, every strategy you have, has already been used before. Its about putting them together to what best suit your team.
If LD can’t get Josh to do what he wants him to do, bench him. If LD can’t get Joe to do what he wants him to do, bench him. The only problem is, just as soon as you bench Josh for taking jumpers, Ivan comes in and shoots two jumpers within the first 5 minutes, lol. Or Vlad comes in, and gets out rebounded. All of LD’s shortcomings only point fingers back to ASG for hiring him.
Grandad
February 23rd, 2012
12:50 pm
Najeh
You missed the point.
-again-
‘`that quote about Josh being hard to coach essentially proves him right`’
DREMAC
February 23rd, 2012
12:52 pm
Atlanta just needs to play faster and if a trade has to b made dont be shy go and get the big fish give up joe, marvin, and zaza for dwight and him josh, and al will be the best frontline in the NBA
Ra'mon
February 23rd, 2012
12:54 pm
Najeh, Love is just a naturally better shooter than Josh. Josh was drafted as a raw athlete who could dunk and jump. And he has developed into a top 20 player despite having below coaching surrounding him his entire career. Love went to UCLA and played for one of the most underrated coaches in NCAA (Howland). People say Josh is uncoachable, but they forget that Jordan got Collins fired, Wade got Stan Van Gundy fired, Kidd got Scott fired, and more. I guess those guys weren’t coachable either to their coaches. Or was it, they just realized that coach wouldn’t bring out the best in the team, similar to what Josh realized seasons ago with Woody, and now with LD.
Grandad
February 23rd, 2012
12:56 pm
doc
I found ‘`osh’s`’ J
It’s between the Na & eh.
Ra'mon
February 23rd, 2012
12:56 pm
Geemack, they’re not running more because their starters are young, but the Hawks has the oldest bench in the league. Even their ‘rookie’ is 27 years old. When you have Vlad, Stack, T-Mack, Eddie Green, Dampier, Collins you have too many players who’ve seen their best days go by long ago on the court.
Just Joe
February 23rd, 2012
12:57 pm
I don’t have a problem with Teague being taken out with the 3 minutes left in the 1st (because we have comparable players on the bench), but I do have a problem with LD playing “small ball” from that point until 5 minutes left in the half. In that 10 minute period when ZaZa & Damp were on the bench, we gave up 7 offensive rebounds. That’s half the total for the whole game in a 10 minute stretch. Who on the Knicks besides Chandler wants to have ZaZa & Damp leaning on them all game? The Knicks don’t have any depth up front, and while Pachulia & Dampier aren’t world-beaters, they are physical players that love to make things uncomfortable for the other team. Instead, we sent out a front line of Ivan & Vlad, and then when that didn’t work, we tried Josh & Vlad, and then Josh & Marvin.
SteveW
February 23rd, 2012
12:58 pm
GeeMack – Josh is 26 and jj is 30. Slight difference, but a difference nonetheless.
But I get your point
STRETCH
February 23rd, 2012
12:58 pm
We can go on and on about Josh, but the realization of it is…HE WILL BE SITTING AT HOME this weekend WHERE HE BELONGS…LOL!
prison mike
February 23rd, 2012
12:59 pm
Rod, the line was down at -2.5 and I missed it. You snooze, you lose. But…. I caught Miss St. +10 vs. Kentucky caught some RACKS.
Grandad
February 23rd, 2012
1:04 pm
Just Joe
How can the Hawks play anything `cept for small ball.
We been playin` small ball since Deke retired.
Hawks ain’t got no size.
We put our Biggest line-up on the floor; shoot-fire; we still little.
____________________________________________
addendum:
No longer defending LD
doc
February 23rd, 2012
1:06 pm
stevew have you seen the doc lately? you have gone in less than 18 hours from blowing it up to maybe there is a chance based on schedule to make it to the playoffs. for lack of a better way to put it i’ll can go mora on you … PLAYOFFS, YOU MEAN PLAYOFFS!!!!!
dude why? also you have not looked close enough at our schedule as only 15 games are in the winnable to even steven category at this juncture of play. also the home games are weighted to the end of our schedule so we are road warriors until then with one triple back and many games back to back with the 6 game in nine road trip and we just came back from this one 1-4?
as far as me, selfishly, i am leaning toward not getting into the playoffs so i can bow out gracefully and not have to think about not renewing my tickets prematurely to get playoff tickets then see what they will come up with this summer to indicate whether to keep throwing more money at this entertainment product.
doc
February 23rd, 2012
1:07 pm
@gdad, rofl. bravo!
O'Brien
February 23rd, 2012
1:13 pm
Najeh,
Although Kevin is taking 4 threes per game, at least he is shooting them at 35%, and making his FTs (83%). And despite not being on the block, he still averages 14 rpb (12 for his career).
If Josh shot 35% from 3, 83% at the line, and averaged 14 rpg, I don’t think people would give him such a hard time. But Josh’s career 3pt % is 28%, and he is shooting .265% behind the arc this year.
Baller4Life
February 23rd, 2012
1:13 pm
“It’s definitely tough,” Smith said of missing the six-time All-Star and the team’s leading scorer. “You are taking away 18 points a game.
Yeah but JJ should be averaging 30 ppg since he’s getting paid $24 mill/year.
Unless Hawks trade for a center (Chris Kaman preferably) its freaking over !
Ra'mon
February 23rd, 2012
1:20 pm
O’brien he’s shooting 40% beyond the arc this month (Josh).
Ra'mon
February 23rd, 2012
1:21 pm
And he’s averaging over 10 rebounds a game this month.
O'Brien
February 23rd, 2012
1:22 pm
Ra’mon,
Or was it, they just realized that coach wouldn’t bring out the best in the team, similar to what Josh realized seasons ago with Woody, and now with LD..
After spending 5 years with LD as the assistant coach, what made Josh endorse LD before he got the job if he didnt think he could get the best out of him?
I think Josh liked LD because they got along well (LD was the go between for Josh and Woody).
STRETCH
February 23rd, 2012
1:22 pm
Since 1980 there have been only 8 teams to win the NBA Championship. (8)thats right, EIGHT!
2010-11 Dallas Mavericks
2009-10 Los Angeles Lakers
2008-09 Los Angeles Lakers
2007-08 Boston Celtics
2006-07 San Antonio Spurs
2005-06 Miami Heat
2004-05 San Antonio Spurs
2003-04 Detroit Pistons
2002-03 San Antonio Spurs
2001-02 Los Angeles Lakers
2000-01 Los Angeles Lakers
1999-00 Los Angeles Lakers
1998-99 San Antonio Spurs
1997-98 Chicago Bulls
1996-97 Chicago Bulls
1995-96 Chicago Bulls
1994-95 Houston Rockets
1993-94 Houston Rockets
1992-93 Chicago Bulls
1991-92 Chicago Bulls
1990-91 Chicago Bulls
1989-90 Detroit Pistons
1988-89 Detroit Pistons
1987-88 Los Angeles Lakers (Hawks should have made it that year)
1986-87 Los Angeles Lakers
1985-86 Boston Celtics
1984-85 Los Angeles Lakers
1983-84 Boston Celtics
1982-83 Philadelphia 76ers
1981-82 Los Angeles Lakers
1980-81 Boston Celtics
1979-80 Los Angeles Lakers
As we can see there, almost all of those teams won multiple championships with the exception of Philadelphia, Miami, and Dallas being the only teams not to win it multiple times. (Let us remember Dallas was up 2-0 after taking the 1st 2 games in Miami)
So that tells you that those teams were put together by and coached by people who know what they were doing. And Atlanta has stood pat way too long with this bunch of quitters if they thought they had a shot at winning a championship. But i forgot, Sund wants to go “deep” into the playoffs!
At the rate Atlanta is going, they should win it all by 2036.
Ra'mon
February 23rd, 2012
1:29 pm
O’Brien, just because he endorse him, didn’t mean that Josh had it right either. But remember Josh was the FIRST player to learn the offense that LD said he wanted to run. When LD came in with the system, he said it wasn’t an offense that was design to run plays for specific players. But now just last week, LD says when he runs plays for Josh, Josh declines. LD is the one who’s changed so much. Why isn’t he running motion still? And when he does run motion, why does he turn to ISO offense after the motion has been working the entire game?
Najeh Davenpoop
February 23rd, 2012
1:29 pm
“Although Kevin is taking 4 threes per game, at least he is shooting them at 35%, and making his FTs (83%). And despite not being on the block, he still averages 14 rpb (12 for his career).”
I know. I have no problem with Love shooting 3s. I am just pointing out that coaches and executives’ perceptions are not always based in reality.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 23rd, 2012
1:29 pm
“You missed the point.
-again-”
What point is that exactly?
Fireld!
February 23rd, 2012
1:32 pm
JT has to be one of the fastest pgs in the league. Just imagine if the lion share of our offense was pick and rolls. Teague would average at least nine assist a game with about 7 to 8 more free throws by attacking basket in space. Rondo, Tony parker, Cp3, are not faster than Teague but play in offenses that cater to thier strengths, speed of the pick. While Teague may not be on thier level yet he is really in his rookie year, 23 years old, and has not been coached.
Nash’s 3rd year in the league 7.9 pts, 5.5 assist
Rondo 2nd year in the league 10.6 pts, 5.1 assist
Tony Parker 2nd year in league 15.2 pts, 5.3 assist
Teague 3rd year with 2 horrible coaches 1st two years 12.2 pts, 4 assists
Not much desparity.
doc
February 23rd, 2012
1:37 pm
sund has his stamp on this team, without a doubt. it cant be bk’s team any longer.
one year contracts may come back to haunt if this team goes selfish trying to make mine next year. not many top fifties at their positions is my guess and a problem with the bench though it is said ti be our best depth in years. that is truly sad.
al is needed folks as are all the starters on this team as misaligned and unbalanced as it is. as it is. summer of sameness i suggested to try and find a big for josh to no avail.