Atlanta Hawks at Knicks: Game Thread
NEW YORK — Much of the news of the day was reported earlier with the news that Joe Johnson is out of the All-Star Game because of his ailing left knee and Marvin Williams response to a report he wants out.
As the game thread, here is coach Larry Drew’s take on the adversity affecting the Hawks as the limp home from another 10-day, five-game road trip and the loss, at least temporarily, of their second all-star.
* “I want to see us respond to the fact that we have two all-stars who won’t be here. … I want to see our guys respond in a positive way and that means playing consistently from start to finish, four solid quarters.”
* “I just personally feel that this is a true test to see what our team is made of, where we are at this point. We said all along in bringing in help off the bench, veteran guys, can come in and help us in these types of situations. You lose key guys and it opens up opportunities for other guys to play. It’s a matter of us responding to the challenge.”
* “We can’t allow any adversity to step in to the fact where we fragment when the situations are what they are, given our schedule, that we have key players out. We have to keep putting one foot in front of the other and keep marching on.”
Also:
Drew said his team will not get caught up in the Jeremy Lin hype that is sweeping New York. In the Knicks’ last 10 games – nine with Lin as a starter – the guard has averaged 24.6 points, 4.1 rebounds, 9.2 assists, 2.9 steals and 5.6 turnovers.
“The one thing that I won’t allow to happen as we prepare for New York, or any team, we don’t focus on just one guy,” Drew said. “Too much focus, too much attention on one guy and then you leave these other guys open. Our approach to the game tonight will not be to stop Jeremy Lin. It will not be that. We know what we have to do against him. We know what we have to do against the rest of their team but we will not just focus on one guy.”
As a final note, former Hawk Mike Bibby paid a pre-game visit to his old team’s locker room before the game.
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ATLien 4 Life
February 22nd, 2012
8:47 pm
Once again Hawks are being out rebounded…. Can we get a legit Big Man????? Then we can finally move Al to PF
Tootsi
February 22nd, 2012
8:48 pm
More Gearon:
But you go back and say what did Denver do with Carmelo Anthony? They made it past the first round once. What did New Orleans do with Chris Paul? Go past the first round once. What did the Hawks do with Joe Johnson? They’ve gotten past the first round three years in a row. Joe deserves some credit for that. Does he a have a big contract? Absolutely. But I think for a fanbase, they should say, ‘I’m glad those owners stepped up to pay him instead of let him go for nothing.’
The Monger
February 22nd, 2012
8:48 pm
See fans like Hawksfancents95…are everything WRONG with Atlanta sports. Mr. Sunny-side up doesnt even realize how bad the Hawks are playing the sport of basketball, and how bad they are embarrassing themselves and the city. Its not only that they have been blown out 6 times in the past 2 weeks (which this guy must have seemed to forgotten), its not just that they cant play offense or defense to save their lives, its not that they turnover the ball 30 times a game, its not just that they have the worst coach in the league with the worst playcalling. Any terribly bad team can accomplish these feats, although it takes a special type of horrible to be blown out as much as these Hawks are on a routine basis. Its all that horrible play combined with the heartless, gutless, no hustle, no teamwork, and a no-show coach that really makes this the worst organization in the NBA…One capable of screwing up almost every draft pick, every coaching decision, every player personnel decision and then act like they arent that bad off. And you want to not only support this garbage with your hard-earned money, but also brush off this game as an isolated incident?? You have to realize their are people like me who laugh at people like yourself on a daily basis, and you are partly responsible for the phrase “a sucker is born every day”….You “suckers” are providing 99 percent of ASG’s income right now….thats real talk from a real fan…
LIL FAWKERS
February 22nd, 2012
8:48 pm
Nique….
HOF PLAYER
HORRIBLE ANNOUNCER
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
February 22nd, 2012
8:49 pm
I guess Marvin doesn’t feel it’s appropriate to step up and lead this team for one game in the season.
0 points
LMFAO
Hawkfan
February 22nd, 2012
8:49 pm
Worst effort of the year. LD is horrible and must go. How do you just sit there and watch Hinrich suck it up and not do anything till we’re down 15. Hate to waste good type but Marvin is playing so bad lately. Not sure I am watching these guys for a while and damn sure not buying a ticket. LD must go.
smh
February 22nd, 2012
8:49 pm
like i said on page 1 we would come out flat no heart and be scared of the spotlight and run with our tails tucked
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2012
8:50 pm
“I guess Marvin doesn’t feel it’s appropriate to step up and lead this team for one game in the season.
0 points”
I guess northcyde is going to lose his bet.
crazy_88
February 22nd, 2012
8:50 pm
I had to burn some funny smoke to calm down after seeing the Hawks first half…I thought after the Bulls game that they couldn’t play any worse. At least the Bulls are well…The Bulls…But to be losing by 30 pts to the ” KNICKS” is wayyyyy too offensive.
Maybe the Hawks are smarter than us all and what they really want is to drop down in the playoff seeding and play a team like Boston..Knicks..or Magic again….NOT!
I challenge someone to name a team that won big in the postseason with a lame duck coach…..Its obvious that the Hawks didn’t really beat the Magic last yr…The Magic lost that game because they played like crap and couldn’t hit any 3’s…
I rather beat a team when they bring their A game..then beat a team because they hit a dry spell…
I doubt the Hawks will be as lucky again this post season…If they make the post season..
Rod from College Park
February 22nd, 2012
8:50 pm
“Rod from College Park
February 22nd, 2012
5:15 pm
If you would like to make a little money this would be the game to do it. Knicks by 7 is the line. Put whatever you have on the Knicks. The two gunners (Melo and JR Smith) might outscore us by themselves. Landry Fields is listed as 6′7 and Willie Green is 6′3. So our wonderful coach who knows we will already be outmatched on the boards, will start Wille Green at the 2 which will help make us more undersized. After we lose hw will again talk about effort and energy. LOL”
One thing my blog friends can never say is that I have never tried to help them make some money. Lets just say, I be taking a nice long vacation off this game.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2012
8:50 pm
Haha Big Ray I didn’t see your post before I submitted mine…
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
February 22nd, 2012
8:51 pm
Najeh what was the bet?
smh
February 22nd, 2012
8:51 pm
Dear God why do you make us suffer as hawks fans? what did we do to upset you
TMACfan
February 22nd, 2012
8:52 pm
I was going to buy a ticket to the Orlando game… Now having second thoughts…
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
February 22nd, 2012
8:52 pm
After the comments Smoove made about the league/coaches after his All Star “snubbing,” he will never ever be chosen for an All Star Game
Guaranteed
Rod from College Park
February 22nd, 2012
8:52 pm
I’ll
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2012
8:53 pm
Y’all still think Melo is just a selfish ball hog who can’t play on a winning team? Still wouldn’t trade Josh for him?
Stars rule the NBA. The more you have, the better your chances of winning.
I’m as big a Josh fan as anyone here, but I’d trade him for Melo in a heartbeat.
I’ll also go on the record as saying the Knicks go farther than the Nuggets in the playoffs this year.
IceColdATLien
February 22nd, 2012
8:53 pm
Rusty, it’s just sad that you’re too ignorant to say anything worthwhile than “shut up.” Try to make a point… other than the extent of your own stupidity. We can argue actual points, but people like you took six years to get out of high school, so I expect nothing less.
I agree with Najeh on many things, but his strange hatred of Kirk and fealty to a guy like Teague is something that doesn’t make a lot of sense to either the “eye test” or the statistics test. Fact is that neither is really starting PG material, so the question is who would be a better fit with the starting unit vs the bench.
With the immature and leaderless Hawks, it’s better for a veteran “been-there-done-that” guy than someone still trying to define himself as a legit starting PG in the League.
Either way, ain’t no need for you to demonstrate your ignorance by cursing rather than using a logical argument.
TMACfan
February 22nd, 2012
8:53 pm
LOL MC already gave up on the Hawks game, he posted some draft stuff on twitter LOLOL
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2012
8:53 pm
“Najeh what was the bet?”
Northcyde bet Rod that Marvin would score 18 points in this game.
Hawks Fan Down Under
February 22nd, 2012
8:54 pm
This team is such garbage right now. It goes beyond coaching now….the whole team is flat and pretty much dont care, they argue with each other, dont help out…etc, etc.
Marvin has nothing but a jump shot. If you dont run plays for him he wont be effective. Does Drew know this?
Teague is trying hard and doing reasonably well….Kirk is doing nothing.
We could lose by 60 tonight LOL!
Matt the Brave
February 22nd, 2012
8:54 pm
Wow, just got done putting my sons down and turned on the game. This looks ugly. Dang.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2012
8:55 pm
Mike Glenn doing his best to make the second half of this game seem somewhat compelling.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
February 22nd, 2012
8:55 pm
Down by 15 in EVERY 2nd quarter
NO REBOUNDERS
SCREW YOU ASG, SUND
Jase
February 22nd, 2012
8:56 pm
We’re is this team proud.
soullrenaissance
February 22nd, 2012
8:56 pm
Dayum shame up on the big stage in MSG – better make a serious run in the 2nd half or else its (8) corner pocket for LD.
The Monger
February 22nd, 2012
8:57 pm
ASG sources of revenue….
65 percent….delusional fans who believe anything and everything told to them by anyone. These people think the Hawks are among the East Elite and Joe Johnson will take them to the promised land before his jersey in hung in the rafters forever. They also believe everything said by George Bush, Bill O’Reilly, and every policeman ever. Some also hold season tickets to the Braves and Falcons….who are “championship-caliber” teams to these guys…yeah you know the type.
25 percent….People who are new to the city and looking for some exciting proffesional sports to watch. They crowd in the minivan and bring their family to Phillips for the first…….and last time. Unfortunately for ASG, these are not repeat customers.
10 percent….People held at gunpoint by ASG hired gunman and Rick Sund to improve attendance figures…whoops i dont think i should have opened up the can on that issue…
REAL TRUTH… -The Monger
DISASTER
February 22nd, 2012
8:57 pm
What a disaster. Hinrich, Pargo, and Marvin should not see the court again. Play Teague, T-Mac, Smith, Ivam, Dampier for the rest of the game.
Rod from College Park
February 22nd, 2012
8:57 pm
“Northcyde bet Rod that Marvin would score 18 points in this game”
No it was 15. I did not take the bet. I bet real money, don’t have time to play fantasy games. I live in the real world Not that it is anything wrong with it.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
February 22nd, 2012
8:57 pm
Multiple choice question:
Marvin says he would never request a trade because he knows:
1) he sucks
2) he is stealing money from this franchise
3) he doesn’t care enough
4) All of the above
TMACfan
February 22nd, 2012
8:57 pm
TMAC, please rewind the clock 6 years and get these guys back in the game
cp
February 22nd, 2012
8:57 pm
The game was over once LD went with the bench. They absolutely stunk it up and instead of pulling them once the Knicks got going, he just left them in there. I have absolutely no idea how anyone can defend Kirk at this point. He looks terrible out there. Nobody is saying Teague is the savior but he is clearly playing better than Kirk. And please stop the B.S. about Kirk not allowing guys like Josh to do as he pleases. Even when Kirk is in the game Josh still handles the ball and takes whatever shot he wants. Kirk doesn’t demand any more respect from these guys than Teague. If you dont like Teague just say you dont and stfu. All these excuses you’re using just dont fly.
Willie Green is just too small to defend Fields. T-Mac should start the 3rd quarter but that would mean our coach would have to make an adjustment and he doesn’t seem to know what an adjustment is. Fire LD and hire a real coach.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2012
8:58 pm
The Chicago game was lost because of rebounding. The Hawks did other things pretty well in that game. This game is just a flat out ass kicking. The Hawks are shooting 36%, have 7 assists to 12 turnovers, haven’t hit a 3, and have shot 10 fewer free throws than the Knicks.
Marcus
February 22nd, 2012
8:58 pm
a few more games like this and Boss and LD might pass each other (going in different directions) at the front door of the Hawks office complex at the end of the season.
Man, I was hoping we would buck up through the injuries like the ‘10 GB Packers … but instead looks like the injuries and malaise is sinking our battleship.
Jase
February 22nd, 2012
8:58 pm
Ohhhhhhhh!!!!!!! Stackhouse.
ATLien 4 Life
February 22nd, 2012
8:58 pm
“Play Teague, T-Mac, Smith, Ivam, Dampier for the rest of the game.”
Disaster – that would require LD to make a coaching decision that really makes sense… He is incapable of going that…
Section 303
February 22nd, 2012
8:59 pm
This is awful.
Come on…don’t ever bet on Marvin. Northcyde, you know better than that!
I think the end of this season could get very ugly. Hawks look like they have decided to play every game like they played the final 5 games of last season’s regular season.
smh
February 22nd, 2012
8:59 pm
wow 39 year old stackhouse
Section 303
February 22nd, 2012
8:59 pm
Stack!
Joe Tess Fish House
February 22nd, 2012
9:00 pm
No 1 care about baseketball
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2012
9:00 pm
Wait, what? Stackhouse?
smh
February 22nd, 2012
9:00 pm
can you say 30
Najeh Davenpoop
February 22nd, 2012
9:00 pm
LD is starting Stackhouse at SG instead of T-Mac. This sh-t is personal.
crazy_88
February 22nd, 2012
9:01 pm
LD’s big coaching change for the second half is to START FREAKING STACKHOUSE !!!
Talk about freaking DESPERATE !!!
He is an IDIOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
Jase
February 22nd, 2012
9:01 pm
I hope we lose by 50.
Luke Cage
February 22nd, 2012
9:01 pm
Going to watch Big Bang Theory!
hawksfancents95
February 22nd, 2012
9:02 pm
@monger
im whats wrong with atl fans?? all i said that was “sunny side up” was i hope the hawks beat the magic tomorrow night, ya im going to the game but its the 1st hawks game ive been to since 09-10 season. i am not standing up for the hawks, their lack of effort, or there actual team concept of basketball but im not gona harp on how they havent been as good as they should be and try to point a finger at a loyal Atlanta sports fan and demand something unrealistic like the dismay of a whole team. i dont like this anymore than you do i just deal with it in a different way.
smh
February 22nd, 2012
9:03 pm
LD will start being a better coach when he stops buying those cheap suits
MattP
February 22nd, 2012
9:03 pm
Stack is showing the hawks how to shoot. lol
smh
February 22nd, 2012
9:03 pm
at least stackhouse is making shots