Atlanta Hawks: Lakers 86, Hawks 78

Los Angeles–The Hawks held the Lakers to 86 points on 84 shots, had 11 turnovers to L.A’s 13, shot 14 free throws (.16 rate) to the Lakers’ nine (.11 rate) and collected 17 of the Lakers’ 47 misses. They lost because they shot 34.4 percent while missing 12 of 20 shots at the rim and botching at least six transition chances; couldn’t stop Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol in the paint early, and saw the Lakers scored 15 points off those 11 turnovers.

  • “I don’t know how many layups we missed,” Larry Drew said. “We missed a ton of point-blank shots. We turned the ball over at crucial times, too. Defensively I thought we were pretty much right there on the money but we just couldn’t buy a shot.”
  • The Hawks scored just 10 points in the second quarter but it wasn’t just because they were settling for Js. Yes, they missed all seven 3-point attempts in the period but they also missed seven consecutive layup attempts. “We got to the rim,” Jeff Teague said. “That’s what we wanted to do. But we couldn’t finish.”
  • No doubt the Lakers’ length had something to do with Atlanta missing so many at close range. The Hawks had seven shots blocked, including two of the layup attempts, and you could see them peeking for defenders when they drove to the basket. “We just have to have more focus when we are going to the rim,” Drew said. “You can’t be concerned about them blocking the shots or changing them.”
  • I said the Hawks should shoot more 3s and of course they go out and miss 20 of 27 attempts, including 13 of 16 tries after the first quarter. Still, that’s an effective field-goal percentage of 38.3 compared to 38 percent on 2s (40 percent at the rim) and 64 percent on free throws. The Hawks couldn’t make anything.
  • “It wasn’t a great shooting night,” Joe Johnson said. “But you can make up for that with effort and defense. I think our defense was pretty good tonight but we missed a lot of easy shots.”
  • The Hawks trailed just 59-51 entering the fourth. The Lakers got some separation behind Steve Blake, Matt Barnes and Andrew Goudelock. Drew waited until the official timeout at 8:04 to put Johnson and Josh Smith back in with Atlanta down 69-57.
  • “I was thinking about the back-to-back,” Drew said. “I wanted to go back with the starters and still make a push but I can’t drive them into the ground when we have a back-to-back. I thought the bench guys gave us some good minutes.”
  • Vladimir Radmanovic’s 3 got the Hawks within 69-60 but Smith threw the ball away. After the Lakers scored on a second chance, Joe made a J but Blake shook free from Teague for a 3, Joe carried the ball for a turnover, and Gasol made a J. That was the last gasp for the Hawks.
  • After Zaza Pachulia couldn’t keep Bynum from deep post position, Drew went to Erick Dampier. Except Drew said that’s not why he did it. “I was told [Zaza] had two fouls,” Drew said. “But they gave the foul to Joe. They said they changed it.”
  • As it turned out, Dampier was pretty effective at making forcing Bynum to catch the ball away from the basket. Considering his lack of conditioning and mobility, he did well to play 16 minutes and get four rebounds. But his teammates should know that they can’t whip passes to those hands. “He did pretty good,” Josh said. “He played pretty good defense on Bynum. He missed a couple of chip tip ins. We was in a drought.”
  • Zaza said he knew he only had one foul but it ended up working out for him, too. “I watched what [Dampier] did to [Bynun] and so in the second half I went out and did the same,” he said. Bynum overpowered Zaza a couple times but Zaza effectively pushed, cajoled and harassed him after halftime.
  • In 15 second-half minutes, Josh was 1 for 7 with four rebounds and three assists. In the first half, he was 6 for 11 with five rebounds in 17 minutes. The problems were familiar: missed jumpers (3 of 9 outside of the paint) and untimely turnovers. There came a point where it looked as if he was no longer interested in venturing inside against the Lakers’ timber.
  • Josh did a pretty good job bothering Gasol’s attempts around the basket. It’s no coincidence that the Lakers’ perimeter players started attacking the paint after he went to the bench in the third quarter.
  • Joe never did assert himself as a scorer when the Hawks needed it. This wasn’t Milwaukee or Detroit. He did have five of the team’s 14 assists against two turnovers. “I got to where I wanted to get on the floor,” Joe said. “I missed a lot of easy shots for myself. I feel I could have made a lot more plays getting guys wide open shots.”
  • Joe became the seventh player in Hawks franchise history to score at least 10,000 points. “It is what it is,” he said. “Maybe if we could have got a win it would feel a lot better. My main focus right now is for us to try to get the rest of these games on the road.”
  • Zaza and Josh (nine rebounds each) got some help on the boards: Marvin Williams, Tracy McGrady and Vlad Rad had six each.
  • Vlad Rad, back in his old building, made three 3-pointers for the first time since Jan. 9, which also is the last time he had as many as six attempts. T-Mac was driving to score, missing and looking for calls. Marvin missed a few good looks.
  • With Dampier getting minutes at center and Vlad Rad at the four, Ivan Johnson got a DNP-CD.
  • Teague’s 6-for-16 shooting included five misses at the rim and also a couple botched runners. He never got out of scoring mode and finished with two assists. The Hawks’ starting point guard wasn’t leading them on a night the offense was often aimless.
  • Kobe Bryant scored 10 points on 18 shots with Joe plus help keeping him in check save for a burst in the third quarter.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

360 comments Add your comment

Rusty

February 15th, 2012
2:57 am

Just fire LD.

High-sider

February 15th, 2012
3:01 am

Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde

February 15th, 2012
3:10 am

“I don’t know how many layups we missed,” Larry Drew said. “We missed a ton of point-blank shots. We turned the ball over at crucial times, too. Defensively I thought we were pretty much right there on the money but we just couldn’t buy a shot.” LD

Another loss another excuse.

Reggie

February 15th, 2012
3:33 am

Once again Marvin did nothing and once again Marvin will start. What ever happen to that guy IT WAS NOT A BAD PICK? He said with Jamal being gone that Marvin would show his true colors. At this point LD is in love with Kirk so i would rather he start Kirk at the two move Joe to the 3,bench Marvin and use Pargo as the backup to Teague again. Trade Marvin for a second round pick then trade the pick for cash….addition by subtraction.

2 Chainz

February 15th, 2012
3:59 am

UNDASTATEMENT.

Yawn

February 15th, 2012
4:07 am

Make the playoffs, get bounced in the first or second round, lather, rinse, repeat.

prison mike

February 15th, 2012
4:19 am

I’m ready for a whole new coaching staff. Tyrone Hill as a coach is laughable. David Joerger, lead assistant with the Grizzlies. It’s no coincidence Tony Allen turned to first team all NBA defender once he got to Memphis.

Mike Malone and Brian Shaw round out the short list.

Buddy Grizzard

February 15th, 2012
4:25 am

“It’s no coincidence that the Lakers’ perimeter players started attacking the paint after he went to the bench in the third quarter.”

How bout we talk specifically about how teams go up by 10 whenever Vlad plays during key stretches of a game. Ivan Johnson was having some monster games before LD decided to take him out of the rotation (starting with the game against Orlando I believe). How many more games do the Hawks need to lose to realize that Vlad is a poor man’s Jamal Crawford… those made 3’s are tantalizing until you realize that he can’t score enough to make up for the fact that HE CAN’T GUARD ANYBODY IN THE NATIONAL BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION.

Michael Cunningham

February 15th, 2012
5:09 am

@ Buddy: “How bout we talk specifically about how teams go up by 10 whenever Vlad plays during key stretches of a game those made 3’s are tantalizing until you realize that he can’t score enough to make up for the fact that HE CAN’T GUARD ANYBODY IN THE NATIONAL BASKETBALL ASSOCIATION.”

The Hawks have been 2.12 points per 100 possessions better defensively with Vlad Rad on the court. His opponent PER as a PF is 10.5 and as a SF it’s 9.2 (15 is average). His Synergy defensive number is .85 points per possession allowed, which is about middle of the pack in the league, and his isolation points per possession allowed is .75, which is good.

Big Daddy

February 15th, 2012
5:32 am

I have been complaining about them not attacking the rim. Well, even if you do attack you have got to finish. If you attack the rim and are too worried about getting hit or blocked, you will miss an easy layup, floater or dunk. I understand the concern about getting injured but, you have got to put some pressure on who is coming after you. Then of course, to make it all worth while you have got to make your free throws.

Josh seems to be the only one willing to go in and try to dunk over someone. I don’t blame Jeff. At 6′2″ it is difficult for him to do that. However, Marvin, Joe, Tracy, Ivan should be getting 4-6 free throws a game for heading to the basket. The catalyst for that is setting up plays that allow them to do that. This gets back to the coaching.

Senator Blutarski

February 15th, 2012
5:49 am

Ivan Johnson should have played some. Was glad to see Dampier do some good defensively. I watched the game and it was frustrating to see the “barely misses” on so many shots close to the basket. If the Hawks were “on” shooting-wise just a tiny bit, it would have been a road win over L.A. But as Don Meredith once said: “If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we’d all have a Merry Christmas.”

HawkEye

February 15th, 2012
5:54 am

Seems to me, the best way for the Hawks to improve on Off is to run pick-n-rolls. “I may be wrong, but I doubt it,” (Sir Charles).

vava74

February 15th, 2012
5:56 am

MC,

Nice stats which actually corroborate two things: V-Rad is not useless BUT he has also been reasonably well used by LD.

Buddy,

I actually don’t think that V-Rad has been stinking up the joint as you say.

When he comes in blow outs he simply does not make that much of an effort, but when properly deployed with starters on the floor, he has been active with his hands, rebounding a bit and doing far more than I though he would (even blocking shots here and there).

There will be games in which he will not be good on the floor due to match up problems but heck, Marvin is not giving us anything most games.

HawkEye

February 15th, 2012
6:01 am

For being out of shape, Dampier did a good job against Bynum. He deserves another 10 day contract.

The Great Pretender

February 15th, 2012
6:23 am

No one really thinks this team is gonna make it out of the first round this year after their schedule catches up with them. Lets hope the Braves start hot so we can turn our attention away from the ATL embarrassment knows as the Hawks.

STRETCH

February 15th, 2012
6:40 am

“Teague’s 6-for-16 shooting included five misses at the rim and also a couple botched runners. He never got out of scoring mode and finished with two assists. The Hawks’ starting point guard wasn’t leading them on a night the offense was often aimless”

Teague had got to learn how to finish!

HawkEye

February 15th, 2012
6:41 am

Just my personal opinion, but I believe the Hawks start to struggle when their Offense if off (which has been a lot lately). It seems when things aren’t going well Offensively, their Defense starts to suffer, and the end result is a loss and/or blowout.

All of those long jumpers feel like turnovers, especially to teams that get out in transition. Not much of a stat guy, but my guess is that a great amount of there post-ups and iso plays result in long jumpers more often than not. It isn’t just Josh taking them, but when the whole team becomes enamored with the jumper, is when things seemingly fall apart. I’m not saying they should give up the jumper completely, but it just seems that when all else fails, they go into overdrive go-go-jumper-mode.

Again, this is why I believe they should run pick-n-rolls. Joe, Jeff, Kirk, T-Mac, Josh, and even Zaza (if he learns how to set a screen properly) can all benefit from this. Joe running picks can reduce the amount of doubles he faces and give Joe more freedom to create for others and himself. Teague’s most noticeable strength (speed) can help further break down interior defenses and he will have more passing options as well. Josh is probably the one who would benefit the most, as pick-n-rolls will put him closer to the basket for a better post game and better offensive rebound/put-back position.

I understand that the Hawks are a jump shooting team, but I believe the Hawks have the tools to be a good and possible great pick-n-roll team.

rk

February 15th, 2012
6:53 am

Josh just does not get it. Neither does Drew. No other team allows the power foward to continue to bring the ball up the court. Let the point guards do their job. The offense keeps Josh on the outside mainly because he has no post moves. He really thinks he is a jump shooter. No development in 8 years. He is as good as he ever will be. At this point he is uncoachable.

vava74

February 15th, 2012
6:58 am

By the way, another idiot on the bench:

McMillan is now using Jamal as the back up PG.

Result: ± of – 26 for Jamal in 23 minutes.

Crack indeed.

Astro Joe

February 15th, 2012
7:15 am

In the last 10 games, Teague is avergaing ~11 points and ~3 assists in 28 minutes. If your starting PG is averaging ~3 assists, he probably needs to be closer to 18 points per game and a real scoring threat. Likewise, at only 11 points per game, he’d ideally be closer to 7+ assists/game and providing better facilitation. How pedestrian has Teague been in the past 10 games? Marvin is averaging only 1 less point than Teague is 2.5 fewer minutes. So Teague is approaching that same middling territory as the blog’s favorite whipping boy.

Ra'mon

February 15th, 2012
7:30 am

AJ, I’ve been saying that for a while. The Hawks would be better off finding a facilitator at the PG position, and starting Teague at the 2, with Joe sliding to the 3. Even if it was someone like Andre Miller getting 7 assists, or Felton. I would actually consider seeing if Portland would take Kirk for Felton’s contract. The fact is there are only 4-5 productive centers in the league, so there are a lot more ways to get better (most involve the subtraction of Marvin’s playing time).

Also, I think LD needs to recognize that Pargo has been playing better than Kirk. Maybe he should make Kirk EARN his playing time, instead of just giving it to him because he’s healthy.

Ra'mon

February 15th, 2012
7:38 am

AJ, I’m trying to go in the archives and see if they go back to 2005. Want to see who on the board (which was about 85% of us) said the Hawks should draft Williams. Because so many keep talking about BK. You think about it, Marvin Williams was understandable. Chills was understandable. The only draft pick he totally screwed was Sheldon.

Ra'mon

February 15th, 2012
7:41 am

Nevermind you have to pay for those archives, lol. Imagine that ajc.com charging someone, lol.

Section 303

February 15th, 2012
7:48 am

Michael, no offense, but your idea of having the Hawks shoot more 3’s was a bad one. I think sometimes you fall in the same trap many who cover the league fall into, you get too focused on stats from the “Statscube” Just watch the games, and stop trying to make basketball rocket science. It isn’t. Hawks shoot well from 3 because they normally take good shots from that distance. Just shooting them because a stupid stat says they should is not smart.

I can’t believe I stayed up and watched last night. What a frustrating game. I agree with Michael, the Hawks were fearful when they got to the rim. Perfect example was early in the game. Teague, being chased by Barnes, had a chance to attack the rim and dunk. Instead, he tried a stupid behind the back pass to another Hawk (can’t remember who). The pass went off Barnes, off Teague, and out of bounds. Total candya$$ play by Teague. He should have taken that chance to dunk the ball and Barnes through the rim.

Not looking forward to this Phoenix game tonight. I’ve seen the Hawks try to keep up with Nash. It’s not pretty. This one will be ugly tonight. Hawks blew a huge chance last night, That game was there for the taking.

Buddy Grizzard

February 15th, 2012
7:51 am

LOL MC didn’t you use Synergy numbers to try to claim that Jamal Crawford played good defense in the playoffs? Try this statistic on for size:

In the month of February, if Vladimir Radmanovic plays more than 10 minutes, the Hawks lose. If he plays fewer than 10 minutes, the Hawks win.

honest_abe

February 15th, 2012
7:54 am

i’d love to check those archives. i was never on the marvin bandwagon.

vava74

February 15th, 2012
7:55 am

AJ,

This Teague’s funk and Hinrich’s return as just about as old.

You know that this is true, so stop messing up, OK?

LD has been doing a piss poor work managing the return of Hinrich and has caused us some losses with that and is the direct responsible for Teague’s decaying numbers.

NONETHELESS, Teague has been playing reasonably good D when he is on the floor.

RB

February 15th, 2012
7:56 am

Willie Green should start but it will never happen. Larry Drew has to start JJ because of the max contract (that JJ will never truly earn). I can’t invest time watching this team because it will end in disappointment. Atlanta sports really suck!

O'Brien

February 15th, 2012
7:59 am

AJ,

In the last 10 games, Teague is averaging ~11 points and ~3 assists in 28 minutes..

I think it’s a combination of 3 things. 1) Tougher schedule 2) Hinrich’s return 3) Jeff Teague.

The tougher schedule speaks for itself. As for Kirk, he came back 11 games ago, and since that time, Teague’s minutes have been cut. In January, Teague was averaging 34 mpg. This month, it’s down to 29 mpg. With Kirk back, LD has a pattern for handling Teague’s minutes, and the game flow does not dictate it. I think that is throwing Jeff off.

That being said, we need Jeff to play better (he has to finish at the rim too), and get back to averaging 13 and 5 at least.

Marvin is averaging only 1 less point than Teague is 2.5 fewer minutes. So Teague is approaching that same middling territory as the blog’s favorite whipping boy..

I agree that Teague needs to step his game up, but I would not put him in the same sentence with Marvin.

Marvin – #2 pick, 5 years, $38 mil contract, 6 years as a starter, playing SF. Teague – #19 pick, $1.6 mil rookie contract, 1st year as a starter, playing arguably the toughest position on the court. Not even close AJ.

Dawg

February 15th, 2012
8:03 am

$19 million dollars for a non assertive 15 ppg. Can you imagine how bad it will be in 4 years?

Section 303

February 15th, 2012
8:05 am

F’ing Blog Monster…..

O'Brien

February 15th, 2012
8:18 am

Ra’mon,
You think about it, Marvin Williams was understandable. Chills was understandable. The only draft pick he totally screwed was Sheldon...

How is the Marvin pick understandable? We had just drafted Chills and Josh (both listed at SF at the time), and we still had Al Harrington (plus Donta Smith), all wing players.

Our PGs at the time? Tony Delk, Anthony Grundy, and Tyron Lue. But yet we draft another wing, instead of arguably a franchise PG, one of the most important positions on the court? Not understandable.

Chills was understandable. But as it turns out, Deng or Iggy would have bene better picks. Drafting Shelden was understandable, because we desperately needed a big, and he was the highest rated big.

The bigger mistake was not trading back to draft the Landlord in the 10-20 range, not #5. What made it worse was the rumor that BK had already promised Shelden that he would draft him at 5, so nobody wanted to trade with BK.

brigadierjerry

February 15th, 2012
8:19 am

how many point blank layupsps hawks blew. hawks need a playmaker that can facilitate for easy baskets. i like teague he needs to be more aggressive

Bulldawg

February 15th, 2012
8:25 am

“I said the Hawks should shoot more 3s and of course they go out and miss 20 of 27 attempts, including 13 of 16 tries after the first quarter. Still, that’s an effective field-goal percentage of 38.3 compared to 38 percent on 2s (40 percent at the rim) and 64 percent on free throws.”

Michael, if my math serves me correct, 7 threes out of 27 tries equals out to only 26%. I don’t think threes are the answer for this team.

Dawg

February 15th, 2012
8:38 am

No team needs to take more jump shots.

Dawg

February 15th, 2012
8:40 am

BK was an idiot for a GM. Chills had and still has the worst looking shot in the NBA. The landlord would have been available late in the 1st. Horrible management.

O'Brien

February 15th, 2012
8:43 am

As for the game last night, once again, JJ fails to score 20 points against a good team, and he has little impact on offense (1-8 from 3). I didn’t see the game, but he might have played good defensively. However, for the amount of money we are paying him, we need him to do more. But at times, he looks so disinterested.

Decent overall game from Josh, but 3-9 on jumpers outside the paint. When will he learn? And whenever some people (northcyde, MC among others) give Marvin props for playing better this year (which he has), he goes out and has one of his “Marvin-esque” flashbacks.

And Teague needs to step his game up too. Also, I still don’t understand LD (his play calling, or his substitutions). I know you want to save your guys, but they may have been able to keep the game closer last night. And if they end up losing tonight, then what’s the point.

That being said, the Suns dominated us in ATL, and it will be the second of a back to back for us. But I think we win tonight, because that’s what the Hawks do. Predictably unpredictable.

rollow lawson

February 15th, 2012
9:00 am

Time to make a move. Marvin, Zaza, and Hinrich for Kaman. I’m convinced now. Pargo is good enough to handle the backup PG duties. TMac, Josh, and Joe can all play SF. Kaman, Dampier, and Collins are more than adequate at center. Just image our lineup once Horford gets back.

Astro Joe

February 15th, 2012
9:09 am

Ob, you can’t compare Marvin and Teague from a contractual bases because they are at different points in their career. What do you think Teague would earn if he weren’t on a rookie contract? Likely around $7-8M is my guess. Draft status is as relevant for a 6 year vet as your college GPA 6 years into the professional world.

The reason I made the comparison is because they are both starters playing comparable minutes. You may choose to view Marvin as someone who has reached his peak vs. Teague who has plenty of room to grow, but when comparing the last 10 games, they have been producing roughly at the same rate.

Oh, and Marvin has the same “minutes played-substitution issue with a bench player problem as Teague. And, IMO, they also share some passive-aggressive-don’t-know-what-role-I-play issues as well.

Ra’mon, I think teague is a natural scorer and more like a Lou WIlliams type than he is a lead guard. I’ve long thought that if he were the designated scorer off the bench, that he would excel (again, much like Lou). And yes, he could still get 28-32 minutes, he would be the Flip/Jamal player but would be far more efficient because he would be attacking the rim and NOT hoisting jumpers from all over the floor. Plus he is a far superior defender than those previous bench scorers.

vava74

February 15th, 2012
9:12 am

Ra'mon

February 15th, 2012
9:12 am

O’B, the reason I say Marvin was understandable was because he was compared to most scouts as the next Grant Hill, and Harrington was going into the last year of his deal, in which they knew they weren’t going to re-sign him. At the time, Chris Paul was an undersized PG who had character issues (remember the ACC Tourney incident that went viral immediately), and Deron Williams was a player who was said to be lazy and hard to motivate during workouts and practices in college. In fact, on draft night, Dick Vitale was the ONLY national analyst who stated that the Hawks should’ve taken Chris Paul. The fact remains til this day, the PG is a nice position. But the last team to win a title with an all star point guard the same season was the Pistons with Thomas (Spurs may have done it one season, but I don’t think so) and Magic’s Lakers. If Marvin had become 75-80% of the player that Grant was, the Hawks would’ve been elite. Hindsight is twenty twenty. But on draft night, the selection of Marvin was the least questionable selection the Hawks made out of the BK picks (because Horford’s was controversial because some wanted Noah, Conley, and some wanted to trade it for Stoudemire).

Strengths: Elite level athlete, very quick and agile for a player of his size… Can play any position on the floor effectively.. Never out-worked or out-hustled… Doesn’t take plays off… Gives you everything he has whether it’s a high school playoff game or an AAU event… Excellent form on jumper… NBA range… Very effective when facing the hoop as he has a quick first step and utilizes his jabs and fakes to perfection… Court awareness is that of a vet… Finds teammates from anywhere on the court…An excellent passer from any spot on the floor who possesses great knowledge of the game…. At 6-9 he handles like a guard and has excellent touch out to 17 feet…. Great rebounder because of his size and ability to get off the ground quickly… Big game player… Plays his best in the clutch… A quick leaper who plays well above the rim. Has tremendous potential.

Weaknesses: More of a wing/forward at this point… Doesn’t play well with his back to the basket as he hasn’t developed a go-to post move… Must improve strength as he won’t always be able to rely on his athletic ability at the next level… Is a shot blocker but has trouble defending smaller quicker players…As with all young guys not named LeBron or Carmelo, he struggles with consistency….

That was Marvin’s draft profile. If the Hawks would’ve gotten THAT player stated in the profile, they would’ve gone to at least one title game by now.

Ra'mon

February 15th, 2012
9:15 am

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/draft/2005-06-28-marvin-williams_x.htm

I would’ve drafted THAT player before a fragile point guard and a lazy, overweight point guard.

Ra'mon

February 15th, 2012
9:22 am

Random thought, Can you guys think about the Portland Trailblazers having Pippen, Steve Smith, Rasheed Wallace, Dale Davis, Bonzi Wells, Shawn Kemp, Jermaine O’Neal, and Zach Randolph all on the SAME team? Whomever was their GM at the time (was it Pritchard?) should be the Hawks GM starting tomorrow! The only thing broke up that team was handcuffs and alcohol.

Astro Joe

February 15th, 2012
9:38 am

Ra’mon, some folk don’t want to even acknowledge that before the 2005 draft class, there were very, very, very few scoring PGs in the league in the mode of Deron or CP3. They ushered in a new era, one that several GMs weren’t ready to accept. Jason Kidd was the elite PG at that time and no one was thinking those guys had the combination of size, court vision and leadership of Kidd. Deron was clearly the closet one (and the PG I preferred for the Hawks). IMO, we’ll see a team more like BK envisioned win the championship before we’ll see a team with a dominant “lead guard” (e.g., Deron, the current version of Rondo, CP3, Rose, Westbrook, etc.) win the championship. The kind of team that has similar sized players from 2-4 who are able to defend multiple positions and have “role players” at the 1&5.

Slimjr

February 15th, 2012
9:40 am

#24 is lost out there……..

Josh J is like rolling dice, when he make one its pure luck!!!

Wheres Pargo..He’s playing better than captain Kirk!! Get him in the game Larry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wheres Ivan Larry???????????????????????????????

1-4, 0-5 road trip..The real Hawks!

23rd easiest schedule sure hood winked a bunch of cool-aid drinking Hawks Fans including me…

Slimjr

February 15th, 2012
9:43 am

Billy “GTFO” Knight botched four straight Lottery picks!

His incompetence will resonant for at least 10 years to come…..

And Sund with two trades in 4 years? wow…

GO KNICKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Slimjr

February 15th, 2012
9:44 am

2-5 half way into February….

3-10 would be Catastrophic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Slimjr

February 15th, 2012
9:45 am

6 games left in the month!

0-6, 1-5, 2-4…………….Just GARBAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Just Joe

February 15th, 2012
9:47 am

One thing Marvin is doing well this season, is rebounding. At one point, he was leading the league in rebounds/48 at the SF position (better than Lebron & G. Wallace & Melo & Deng & Pierce, etc…). Marvin off the bench works for me, its just too bad that we need his salary for another (or other) player(s).

Slimjr

February 15th, 2012
9:47 am

#24 looks lost like his coach….