Heat at Atlanta Hawks Game Thread

Vivlamore filling in for tonight’s game against the Heat.

Here is your report from the morning shoot-around.

Josh Smith insists he is not playing with a chip on his shoulder.

However, in the past two games the forward has put up impressive numbers – despite again being snubbed from the NBA All-Star team

In wins over the Pacers and Magic, Smith is averaging 25.5 points, 10 rebounds, four assists, three blocks and 2.5 steals. They are all above his season averages, especially his 15.9 points per game.

“I’ve just been playing,” Smith said Sunday morning before taking on the Heat in a nationally televised game. “I’ve been playing like this since the season started. It’s really not a chip on my shoulder. I’ve been blessed to be able to step in in Al [Horford’s] absence and just been playing some good basketball.”

Smith is averaging 15.9 points and 9.8 rebounds in the 16 games since Horford was lost to a torn left pectoral muscle. The Hawks are 11-5 without Horford.

“I’ve always stated that he is a guy who can impact the game on both ends of the court, which he clearly did in our last game against Orlando,” coach Larry Drew said. Smith had 23 points and 19 rebounds in the overtime win over the Magic Friday.

* With the Heat in town, the million dollar question is how do you go about guarding LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh.

Here is Drew’s take: “They lead the league in fast-break points so the first thing you have to do is get back on defense. How do you do that? That is going to be controlled by your shot selection and that you are not turning the basketball over. Secondly, obviously in a half-court game, you are taking about LeBron [James], you are talking about Wade, you are talking about Bosh. All three guys are very capable of having huge nights. You just set your defense where you don’t put yourself at a disadvantage. Going into a game like this, playing against a team like Miami, you have to play solid on both ends of the floor. You have to do a good job of taking away easy transition points but on the other hand you have to do a good job of moving the basketball.”

* Horford attended the team’s morning shoot-around Sunday as a spectator. The center had his left arm in a sling.

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Rob

February 12th, 2012
5:00 pm

Rob

February 12th, 2012
5:00 pm

Horford attended the team’s morning shoot-around Sunday as a spector. The center had his left arm in a sling.

How long before anything happens with Horford as far as rehab, getting that arm out of a sling?

hawkfan

February 12th, 2012
5:04 pm

soullrenaissance

February 12th, 2012
5:18 pm

This will be a good one. If the J Smash of Magic gam shows up – we win. If npt then who knows. Hawks go as Smith goes.

Tin Man and Scarecrow

February 12th, 2012
5:22 pm

It depends on when Al has had his fill of humping ms camel toe..

Lon Stotts

February 12th, 2012
5:25 pm

Let’s not sell Smoov short- he’s averaging 15.5 boards in the last 2 games.

Horf’s a “spector”??? Yikes!

Hope Bosh brought an extra pair of spandex for tonight. Just looking at Ivan should make him pi$$ himself.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 12th, 2012
5:28 pm

“Horford attended the team’s morning shoot-around Sunday as a spector. ”

Is he dead?

Najeh Davenpoop

February 12th, 2012
5:31 pm

Don’t turn it over, move the ball on offense, switch screens, and limit their dribble penetration. Hawks can win this game, especially if D-Wade doesn’t play.

MO

February 12th, 2012
5:39 pm

specter not spector. Like ND and LS said…
I hope you meant spectator.

northcyde

February 12th, 2012
5:45 pm

From the last blog @ Tmabry:

The Hawks have to make money from those marquee games, so tix prices will be much higher. I guess my mentality is different because I’m a die hard, but I get enjoyment watching the Hawks play anybody. Doesn’t matter if its against the Heat or the Hornets.

LOL @ upper level seats being almost $80, when just last weekend I bought a 100 level club seat off the street for $40 for the Philly game. Hawk fans just have to go to watch the Hawks more, not just watch the Hawks play a marquee team.

northcyde

February 12th, 2012
5:47 pm

D-Wade may not play?

That would help the Hawks and Northcyde United, my fantasy team.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 12th, 2012
5:48 pm

“Hawk fans just have to go to watch the Hawks more, not just watch the Hawks play a marquee team.”

I don’t think there’s a single NBA city where ticket prices don’t go up on the secondary market when the Heat, Clippers, and Lakers come to town.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 12th, 2012
5:48 pm

I saw some Heat fans on some message board discussing what might happen in this game if Wade doesn’t play, so I assumed there’s some truth to that, but I couldn’t find anything anywhere else to corroborate that. My guess is the Heat are at full strength.

Chris Vivlamore

February 12th, 2012
5:49 pm

Thanks for catching the typo. I shall fix. I’m hoping to get a few minutes with him tonight to update.

Grandad

February 12th, 2012
5:49 pm

1st of all the Hawks will / should primarily zone Miami.
2nd; We match up with the Heat better than most
due to their lack of size – much like us.
*[not talent]

northcyde

February 12th, 2012
5:53 pm

Chicago never panicked when they were down 10. Anybody’s game now.

northcyde

February 12th, 2012
5:56 pm

I wonder why the Hawks don’t run pick and roll with JJ and Smith, like Boston just did with Pierce and Garnett.

northcyde

February 12th, 2012
6:02 pm

Lil. Who does CJ Watson think he is? Derrick Rose?

CJ, you’re not running the Vols, you’re running the Bulls. He think he’s back in college.

Bigtime

February 12th, 2012
6:09 pm

Drew should be in the running for coach of the year…

Grandad

February 12th, 2012
6:10 pm

Hatter; I think this post has earned you a new moniker:

‘`Ditch~Weed`’ … yeah; I like that … !!

Sorry to ruin your time-line;
HS & College = done that; scouting and player development
is my calling card now.
I will appreciate you recommendation though.
With permissision, may I add you to my resume ?
Seriously – your endorsement means more to me than others.
Happy to have you on board.
When the opportunity presents;
we can get together and discuss basketball,
perhaps at a Hawks game.
____________________________________________

I look forward to mtg you.
____________________________________________

‘`After reading Grandads logic over the past years
and particularly his most recent posts.
I see why he is a blogger and not a coach.”

‘`Grandad is your garden variety arm chair coach.
Its further clear that he is not a professional manager
in employment and that his understanding of the game
and players ability is equal to Ouija Board Coaching”

‘`Drew may not call all the shots Id wish he would call
bet he’s running his offense, successfully,
and utilizing the talent and talent levels presented to him.
Talent by the way, he did not developed but Woodson did.”

‘`Grandad why dont you start with pee wee leagues
and run your offense. If its anything like your mouth it will be popping.
Then work your way up to the pros.
If you game is that strong you will probably do like Josh
and make the Jump right out of high school.
Let me know when you coach on the high school level
then I’ll lobby for you to get some college experience
and then finally a pro shot.
That should put us around 2056 AD.”
________ ________ ________ ________ ________

‘`Grandad;
is undoubtedly the largest consumer of marijuana in the state of Ga”
- Ditch~Weed – ….. formerly known as ‘`the Hatter”

Tin Man and Scarecrow

February 12th, 2012
6:13 pm

Ok so Al Horford is a spector, We all know that, Now lets talk about the guys that are focused on winning.

Pierce and Garnett are old, Josh is a young man and JJ is just in his prime. Im not basing this on age but declining skills. Garnett and Pierce can no longer create the shots the could in their youth so they must rely on tricks to get free. Both JJ and Josh can take you off the dribble and don’t need a crutch.

Grandad

February 12th, 2012
6:14 pm

I will appreciate you recommendation though

* should have been – typo / mispelled

I will appreciate *you[r] recommendation though

Tin Man and Scarecrow

February 12th, 2012
6:14 pm

Grandad. Cyber fist bump your way.

Tin Man and Scarecrow

February 12th, 2012
6:22 pm

Well Grandad I merely stated my opinion of your opinion and did so with out calling you out of your name(moniker). But hey, I can do that.

In a war of wit, many are unarmed and must result to name calling,

Its nice to know that gutter name calling is beneath such an excellent offensive co-coordinator as yourself Grandad.

What college do you coach for?

Tin Man and Scarecrow

February 12th, 2012
6:23 pm

*…can no longer create the shots they could in their youth so they must rely on tricks to get free.

Tin Man and Scarecrow

February 12th, 2012
6:24 pm

offensive co-ordinator

northcyde

February 12th, 2012
6:27 pm

I wish that JJ learned some of Pierce’s tricks. Especially when it comes to drawing fouls off of midrange jumpers. He’d be a much better player if he did.

And God knows if Smith had some of Garnett’s post moves and midrange game, Smith would be the best PF in the game.

Spyro

February 12th, 2012
6:29 pm

I wonder why the Hawks don’t run pick and roll with JJ and Smith, like Boston just did with Pierce and Garnett.

Because our coach isn’t that smart?

northcyde

February 12th, 2012
6:31 pm

Grandad, what do you think of the Hawks scouting dept and player development?

Sautee

February 12th, 2012
6:32 pm

“specter not spector. Like ND and LS said…
I hope you meant spectator.”

T-s thought he meant sphincter. After all, it was Al. ;-)

Heat Fan

February 12th, 2012
6:32 pm

Yes, a nationally televised game for the Hawks, I’m pretty sure you guys like your chances.

W. R. Terrell

February 12th, 2012
6:32 pm

Scary game tonight, we could see a 2 for 20 night out of the snubbed “ALLSTAR”. Hopefully we won’t and maybe, just maybe a 15 – 18 rebound night and no boggin or slowing the offense down by not giving the ball to the point guard and playing near the rim will help the snubbed ALLSTARS credibility. LMAO…Like Aretha once said, “Ain’t No Way!”. Oh yehhhh, Joe can move the ball a lil quicker too.

Agnew

February 12th, 2012
6:33 pm

Or it’s a unnecessary tool for old men…

Tin Man and Scarecrow

February 12th, 2012
6:35 pm

Sautee you sure he didnt mean Al is a spectacle?

Sautee

February 12th, 2012
6:37 pm

T-s,

I “see” what you just did.

Heat Fan

February 12th, 2012
6:40 pm

Dwyane Tyrone Wade averaging over 27 ppg the last 5 games, looks like he is back to form.

Grandad

February 12th, 2012
6:40 pm

Ditch~Weed

My teams ran motion offense [princeton style] for 30 yrs
my teams were running motion / princeton
while LD was still in college.

Not to mention – I’ve been LD’s biggest advocate on this board;
This Year !! (last yr, not so much)

This [princeton] offense is LD’s
or more accurately [Byron Scott's] offense.
-not Woody’s offense-
Even more authentic would be to credit
Pete Carril (the old Princeton Coach);
however, it may have been originated by
Cappy Cappon another former Princeton Coach from the 1930s.
Or; perhaps, Red Sarachek who coached at Yeshiva Univ for 40 yrs
beginning also in the 1930s.
_____________________________________________

Just the facts, ma’am.

Hawkfan

February 12th, 2012
6:40 pm

C’mon Hawks. Gotta hate the Heat.

doc

February 12th, 2012
6:45 pm

rob, no movement at all for 6 weeks was the report. nothing in rehab until then, so sling it is.

soullrenaissance

February 12th, 2012
6:45 pm

http://www.nba.com/rookie-ladder/

Ivan Johnson is garnering more national love!

northcyde

February 12th, 2012
6:52 pm

Perhaps the saddest thing about Whitney’s death, is the fact that we can’t celebrate her as she grew into old age. It’s incredible to think that other living legends like Aretha Franklin, Patti Labelle, Chaka Khan, and even her aunt Dionne Warrick all outlived her.

Whitney was supposed to be a part of a legendary cast of senior singers 20 years from now that would’ve included her, Janet Jackson, Anita Baker, Toni Braxton, Mariah Carey, possibly a singing group like En Vogue, and an about to turn 50 Beyonce ( playing a Tina Turner-esque role )

It’s sad that she didn’t live to be part of that group.

IceColdATLien

February 12th, 2012
7:00 pm

I think Ivan can be a secret weapon against Bosh. Bosh is kinda weak-minded and gets intimidated by certain guys… namely dudes who look like Ivan! Get Bosh off his game and let Smoove roam a bit to help on the Other Two.

Big Lou

February 12th, 2012
7:00 pm

“Because our coach isn’t that smart?” -Spyro

AMEN, SIR. AMEN!

Heat Fan

February 12th, 2012
7:01 pm

Can’t wait to see Bosh and Smith go at it.

IceColdATLien

February 12th, 2012
7:01 pm

SoulRen, thanks for the link.

Big Lou

February 12th, 2012
7:03 pm

“Can’t wait to see Bosh and Smith go at it.” Heat Fan

Agreed. Josh won’t admit it, but he is pissed he got snubbed again. Expect him to play Bosh like a man possessed.

vava74

February 12th, 2012
7:04 pm

What p:ssies me off about the Hawks – as a franchise – is that we are never rewarded by luck.

Yes, good management bring luck and makes good things materialise but why on earth we are never the beneficiaries of one of those transmutations that every once in a while happen in other ball clubs?

How food wouldn’t it be if one or two of our guys ended up maturing and getting it.

Like Josh finally starting to play to his strengths and become a bona fide 20/10 guy and Zaza finally becoming a guy whose effort level became constantly high – like Varejao, for instance – and became, now at 28 a bona fide post defender (not saying shot blocker – strictly man to man).

These thing seem so close yet they never materialise with Hawks. There is never a truly remarkable feel good story surrounding this team.

Ivan is the first thing remotely close that I can remember …

vava74

February 12th, 2012
7:05 pm

Apologies for the iPhone typos.

IceColdATLien

February 12th, 2012
7:06 pm

Hey Heat Fan, what’s up with your PG situation?

IceColdATLien

February 12th, 2012
7:06 pm

Dude just used the word “transmutation” on a Hawks blog.

Awesome.