Updated: Pacers at Atlanta Hawks Game Thread

Coach Larry Drew said there will be lineup changes for tonight’s game against the Pacers. Drew said Tuesday he was considering ways, including lineup changes, to get his team to play with more energy. He wants the Hawks to get their ‘mojo’ and ’swagger’ back as they have lost the past three at home.

The Hawks have lost three straight, all at home. They haven’t lost four straight home games since 2007, part of a seven straight losses.

Wednesday morning, Drew was still concerned with the Hawks lack of response to offensive runs by the opposition. The Suns used a runs between the first and second quarters and to end the third to build a 22-point lead Monday.

“The way we have responded to runs,” Drew said of his biggest disappointment during the current three-game skid. “I’ve told the guys we have to get past the point of when teams do make runs at us feeling like the game is over, particularly when there is so much basketball to be played. I gave them the example of [Tuesday] Indiana’s game with Utah. Utah went down by 22 in the third quarter and came back to take the lead in the fourth quarter. The game is never over until the final horn blows. You have to, hopefully, withstand runs but you can’t get discouraged when teams make runs. …

“Under no circumstances can you hang your head when a team makes a run. You have to respond like a professional.”

Big man update: According to Drew, he expects a signing at center in the next few days.

“I think in the next few days we will have another player who we can add to give us some help at the five position,” Drew said.

Drew confirmed that the team worked out Kenyon Martin before the free agent signed with the Clippers. Drew also said the team has not decided at the direction they will go with a signee.

“We’ve talked about both scenarios as far as a 10-day [contract] and bringing someone in for the year,” Drew said. “We haven’t made a decision on it yet. We just talked about the pros and cons of both. It’s just a matter of going through the list of names.”

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Buddy Grizzard

February 8th, 2012
5:37 pm

POST OF THE YEAR

northcyde

February 7th, 2012
7:14 pmLineup change? Easy.

Keep the starters as is.

Ivan will be 6th man and sub in for either Zaza or Marvin. T-Mac and Green are nex off the bench. Kirk or Pargo plays the point in spot minutes.

End of rotation.

8 guys should be getting the vast majority of the minutes. All starters should be playing 30+ minutes nightly. Ivan should be getting 26 – 32 minutes nightly. Teague should get no less than 35 minutes. Marvin should get more minutes at the 4 with the 2nd unit.

Drew simply has to shorten the rotation and keep his most talented 8 guys on the floor as much as possible. And if you have to play JJ or Smith 40+ minutes, so be it.

It’s time we stop losing games all because Drew is giving unproductive bench players waaaay too many minutes.

drmaryb.[*_*].

February 8th, 2012
5:40 pm

Buddy Grizzard

February 8th, 2012
5:42 pm

In the re-match with the Sixers, the Hawks starters were on the floor when the run was made. The 76ers are just a better team than the Hawks. In the other two games, Hawks opponents have made runs in large part due to Drew’s lineups. Watch what happens when Zaza and Ivan are both on the bench. Watch teams go on runs as soon as Vlad steps on the floor.

drmaryb.[*_*].

February 8th, 2012
5:45 pm

Looks like the coach read NortyCyde’s recommendations, now let’s hope he follows through with the rotations laid out here and play 8 deep as well.

Looks like Mr. Drew was not in a very talkative mood either, as he only gave a rewind of his last comment. Not much beef to chew on here. Basically, Mr. Drew gave Chris V. nothing new to write about.

Where is MC? He typically gives the Hungry Man a five course meal.

Dawg

February 8th, 2012
5:52 pm

LD should shorten the bench at least until this downward spiral is stopped. Does Sund have an internet connection yet?

STRETCH

February 8th, 2012
6:05 pm

ANOTHER BEAT DOWN COMING!

Old Man Peabody

February 8th, 2012
6:13 pm

Lets see how many pts Collison Put up on Teague, coming off of a season high last night 25-4-5, Teague’s defense has to get better to stop teams from getting easy buckets because his man blows by him.

Ray

February 8th, 2012
6:21 pm

I don’t think Teague’s real problem is Teague it’s Larry Drew being harsher on him than say a Kirk or Josh or Joe.

Those three guys no matter how you slice it had something to do with each of the three losses that occurred.

Everyone can blame Vlad all day and night, but he’s a bench player shouldn’t have to rely on him to help us get back a lead we should have never lost in the first place.

The core

February 8th, 2012
6:32 pm

Pacers are long, physical team, playing well = bad matchup

NCBravesFan

February 8th, 2012
6:33 pm

So Buddy, just yesterday you questioned my assertion that Kirk was getting too many minutes and that his primary value as a trade chip lies in his expiring contract.

You even asked if I watched basketball.

So now you say Kirk should get “spot minutes” in a shortened rotation.

Do you watch what you post from day to day??

Jcard120

February 8th, 2012
6:34 pm

I want to see Teague playing for at least 40 minutes tonight. I think the team has better on court chemistry and energy with him on the floor as oppose to Hinrich. Teague is the youngest player on the team last time I checked so he has the legs. We were on a hot streak prior to Kirk coming back so what is LDrew doing taking away his minutes.

SqawkFan

February 8th, 2012
6:37 pm

Solo on a 10 day? why not he knows the team and knows the Pacers. we need him yesterday.

The very poor

February 8th, 2012
6:38 pm

Knock knock

Who’s there?

Ivan Johnson

Ivan Johnson who?

Ivan Johnson (6-8) trying to guard 7-2 hibbert and 7-0 admundson !

Buddy Grizzard

February 8th, 2012
6:41 pm

Headed to Tool at Gwinett Center Arena Hawks fans…

Let’s go Hawks! Let’s quit on LD before the All-Star Break like LD II quit on Roy Williams mid-ACC championship run! Pacers by 20!

Najeh Davenpoop

February 8th, 2012
6:43 pm

Whoever stole my name on the previous blog did a pretty good job with those Josh Smith/Chuck Norris facts.

I don’t think I have felt this pessimistic about a Hawks game all season. It would surprise the hell out of me if the Hawks actually won this game. I expect the Pacers to outrebound the Hawks by about 20, and for the Hawks to stop taking the ball inside after the first couple of Roy Hibbert blocked shots.

Buddy Grizzard

February 8th, 2012
6:47 pm

“So now you say Kirk should get “spot minutes” in a shortened rotation.

Do you watch what you post from day to day??”

I didn’t say that… northcyde said that… that was a re-post of northcyde’s POST OF THE YEAR from yesterday. northcyde’s post is primarily concerned with turning the Hawks around and winning games right now. I know that playing Kirk heavy minutes right now is not in the Hawks’ best interest if the goal is to win games. But if the goal is to get Kirk playing like he did in the Orlando series last year to increase his trade value, he can’t do that if you don’t play him.

Rusty

February 8th, 2012
6:48 pm

Only a stupid coach would limit JT’ minutes or someone hating Teague,so you know he will even tho ugh you know he wll.

11 day contract

February 8th, 2012
6:48 pm

I agree Davenpoop, Hawks could find a way to win tonight. It just seems unlikely considering huge size disadvantage

Rusty

February 8th, 2012
6:49 pm

He wii even if hurting the team

ag

February 8th, 2012
6:51 pm

Since KH has returned, the Hawks are 3-4. Teague has played over 30 minutes in one game during that strech – the loss at home to Philly. Prior to KH, Teague played less than 30 minutes 3 times, two in blowout wins. KH has been garbage since his return and I say play Pargo – who was playing decent ball. KH needs to get traded ASAP!

Rusty

February 8th, 2012
6:51 pm

No one will give the hawks much for KH.

northcyde

February 8th, 2012
6:52 pm

Thanks for the props Buddy. I personally do not want to see Vlad enter this game unless there is a blowout or we’re in some serious foul trouble. Increase the minutes of guys who are balling, or at the very least not killing the chemistry.

Drew needs to stop feeling like he owes playing time to people. Just play the people who will win you a damn game. Durant and Westbrook both had to go 40+ minutes to overcome a red hot Monta. Ellis. Woody wouldn’t hesitate leaning on his main guys to pull out wins. But Drew feels like 11 people should play every night, with JJ or Smith getting less minutes because of it.

Play your main guys Drew. Stop relying on bustas that nobody wanted, to help you win games.

EmirS.

February 8th, 2012
6:54 pm

Najeh Davenpoop

February 8th, 2012
6:56 pm

Unfortunately the love for Ivan is coming a little too late, since he was not picked for the Rising Stars Challenge (formerly the Rookie-Sophomore game).

ntrigue

February 8th, 2012
6:59 pm

TTeague will be on bench wouldn’t be surprised with our coach

Rusty

February 8th, 2012
6:59 pm

LD please stop with your two foul nonsense,if the team is playing goo go with the flow.

EmirS.

February 8th, 2012
7:02 pm

“Unfortunately the love for Ivan is coming a little too late, since he was not picked for the Rising Stars Challenge (formerly the Rookie-Sophomore game).”

He broke out a bit late tho, don’t you think? Not saying its his fault but…..you have to look somewhere else for that…no?

NCBravesFan

February 8th, 2012
7:04 pm

Buddy: thanks for the reply. My thought on Kirk goes back to winning now – and a fear that Kirk kinda is what he is at this point – injury prone and not to be relied upon in any huge way. But I could definitely be wrong about that and sincerely hope I am. Let’s go Hawks!

Hawks Fan Down Under

February 8th, 2012
7:10 pm

Ivan is averaging 11points and 9 rebs in 23 mins over the last 3 games. I mean cant Drew see this guy NEEDS to be on the floor more? Sure dont play him 40+ mins but seriously….the guys hot AND he brings energy and intensity every game. Against a physical team like Indy Ivan is just what we need.

There’s an article on him here:

http://www.nba.com/rookie-ladder/?ls=iref:nbahpt1

terrell

February 8th, 2012
7:12 pm

Teague/Joe/TMac/Josh/Ivan

terrell

February 8th, 2012
7:13 pm

Bring those two clumsy, fumbling guys off the bench.(Marv/Zaza)

BIG DOG

February 8th, 2012
7:16 pm

Josh practicing jump shots during pregame warm up, just dam another long night.

BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE

terrell

February 8th, 2012
7:16 pm

Give up the jumper Josh. SMDH

Hawks Fan Down Under

February 8th, 2012
7:17 pm

Oopps didnt see that link posted earlier.

I think Ivan deserved a spot on the rookie team. Doing more with less that a few of those guys on the list. Oh well…lets just hope he starts to get more minutes and see if he can continue his good play.

If Ivan starts tonight he’ll go for 20 and 20 beating up on Hibbert with the Hawks winning…..well maybe….

terrell

February 8th, 2012
7:17 pm

Need to practicing post moves.

MattP

February 8th, 2012
7:18 pm

LD screwed Ivan just like he screwed Teague.

terrell

February 8th, 2012
7:18 pm

“Need to be practicing post moves”.

terrell

February 8th, 2012
7:19 pm

Marvin getting some TV time. lol

Luke Cage

February 8th, 2012
7:19 pm

SWEET CHRISTMAS!!!

terrell

February 8th, 2012
7:20 pm

How about LD changing his coaching rotation, by sliding over and letting Van Exel or Hill caoch the team?? lol. Couldnt hurt.

Rusty

February 8th, 2012
7:21 pm

LD says same starting lineup.

terrell

February 8th, 2012
7:22 pm

Rusty, Kirk’s contract is expiring.

terrell

February 8th, 2012
7:22 pm

Same starting lineup???? Smmfgdh

terrell

February 8th, 2012
7:24 pm

A see an early time out called in LD’s future.

KBB

February 8th, 2012
7:26 pm

Was MC fired or suspended?

Luke Cage

February 8th, 2012
7:28 pm

Expecting a hard fought competitive victory for the Hawks!!

11 day contract

February 8th, 2012
7:32 pm

Nique cant hardly speak. What the???

Runner-

February 8th, 2012
7:33 pm

nique still sick i see lol

Luke Cage

February 8th, 2012
7:34 pm

Nique suckin it up for the team

ClassicHawks

February 8th, 2012
7:35 pm

We will be alright as long as we play with energy. Pacers played last night.