Suns at Atlanta Hawks Game Thread
Vivlamore filling in for Cunningham. Here is your report from this morning’s shootaround in preparation for tonight’s game against the Suns.
The key to snapping a two-game losing streak is the Hawks’ defensive energy, according to coach Larry Drew.
As the Hawks host the Suns tonight, Drew emphasized defense to his team during the morning shootaround and with the media following the session.
“We can’t be a team with low energy,” Drew said. “If you are going to be small [with injuries to centers Al Horford and Jason Collins] you have to be a team that plays with a lot of energy. You have to be quick. Because you are a little smaller you have to do some things differently, particularly with us. Not having Al or Twin it limits us in a certain area as far as what our defensive schemes have been. Offensively nothing much changes there. It’s more on the defensive end. We’ll have to make some adjustments.”
Drew did say the Hawks needed to share the ball offensively, but his efforts were concentrated on the defensive side of the ball Monday.
While Josh Smith agrees that defense is a priority he is clearly more concerned with the offensive issues during the past two games.
“Everybody has their opinions,” said Smith when told of Drew’s comments about the defensive energy. “I think that defense is definitely the key to winning basketball games but if we don’t have any continuity on the offensive end it really definitely hurts us. When the ball sticks on one floor we get baited into playing one-on-one basketball. That’s what hurts this basketball team because when we are sharing the basketball, moving it from side to side, everybody is benefitting off goods shots, I think we help each other that much more on the defensive end.”
To clarify his remarks, I asked Smith if he was referring to ‘the notion of one person trying to do it all?’
“Iso … it’s pretty much self explanatory,” Smith answered.
Iso-Joe? Perhaps. The Hawks have had issues the past two games with several players trying to do too much in losses to the Grizzlies and 76ers.
“Definitely,” Joe Johnson said when asked if he agreed with Smith’s assessment. “I think we do get a little selfish at times out there. It’s part of it. You have a lot of guys that come out and try to do it on their own that hurts you even more. We have to get some ball movement, get everybody involved, get back to playing loose and having some fun.”
* Monday was the first day NBA teams were able to sign players to 10-day contracts. However, the Hawks had no immediate plans to do so in light of being without Collins for the next two weeks.
“Not a whole lot of news,” Drew said of the team’s pursuit of a big man. “Right now we are going as we are. We are a little small but we’ll just have to play the hand that’s dealt to us.”
* With the Suns in town, it marks the return of former Hawks draft pick Josh Childress. The former No. 6 overall pick is averaging 3.5 points per game for the Suns in 11 games, all off the bench.
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Mac-Town (#maconchevyrider)
February 6th, 2012
2:59 pm
“Monday was the first day NBA teams were able to sign players to 10-day contracts. However, the Hawks had no immediate plans to do so in light of being without Collins for the next two weeks.
“Not a whole lot of news,” Drew said of the team’s pursuit of a big man. “Right now we are going as we are. We are a little small but we’ll just have to play the hand that’s dealt to us.”
No changes needed, just more “defensive energy”
It all makes sense to me now
Mac-Town (#maconchevyrider)
February 6th, 2012
3:00 pm
“we’ll just have to play the hand that’s dealt to us.”
LMFAO.
mountain_jim
February 6th, 2012
3:08 pm
dealt by the frickin owners.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
3:11 pm
FTPB
“Hawks get Tyson Chandler, Markieff Morris, Grant Hill
Knicks get Steve Nash, Robin Lopez
Suns get Josh Smith, Marvin Williams, Iman Shumpert”
This is not a bad trade at all. Chandler is four years older than Josh, but his production probably isn’t going to drop for another two or three years, at least. And Markieff Morris has shown some promise. Ideally, since the Hawks are giving up the best player in that deal (ranking Josh over Nash due to age), they would also get a draft pick in that trade.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
3:13 pm
I liked Josh Childress as a Hawk, but we wouldn’t be our duty as fans if we didn’t boo the sh-t out of him.
mountain_jim
February 6th, 2012
3:17 pm
So MC just works occasional home weekends now?
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
3:17 pm
With respect to the last two games, against the Grizzlies and the Sixers, I think Josh’s assessment is closer to the point than LD’s. The half court defense in both games was not that bad. What killed the Hawks was poor ball movement on offense, resulting in either turnovers or bad shots, which in turn resulted in transition opportunities for the other team. The field goal percentage and points in the paint allowed looks bad because of these transition baskets.
Teams like the Grizzlies and Sixers who don’t always have a real go-to scorer on the floor are at their best when they get those kind of easy buckets. Make them convert in the half court and they will struggle. But if you don’t take care of the ball and use possessions efficiently, you play right into their hands.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
3:20 pm
That said, the Grizzlies game would have probably been closer if Josh had been more selfish and taken advantage of his matchup instead of forcing passes.
Astro Joe
February 6th, 2012
3:22 pm
Najeh, chances are, the Greek Afro won’t play.
Methinks that while Josh may begrudingly accept that Joe is going to take his fair number of shots, I suspect that he has little use for a PG who has as many FGAs as he does (especially a younger PG). Pure speculation on my part, I just think that the whole “move the ball” thing is a dog-whistle for “there is a pecking order and I’m the second option on this here team”.
Blodus
February 6th, 2012
3:23 pm
“The key to snapping the losing streak is a new coach” After today’s loss, I will do this team and the fans a favor and will resign.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
February 6th, 2012
3:23 pm
Childress played here last year and was pretty bad.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
February 6th, 2012
3:25 pm
Ivan, a 6″8 unknown rookie, looks forward to playing Center.
Horford is 6″10 and shrinks away from it
vajeje johnson
February 6th, 2012
3:25 pm
all off the bench- you’re kidding. I hate to think he was averaging 3.5 ppg starting.
SteveW
February 6th, 2012
3:26 pm
Najeh – thoughts about the All Star game:
I say travel to the All Star game with just two C’s on the East, Howard and Bosh. That’s all you need. Amare can play some spot C also.
Put Josh, and Peirce as backup F’s
JJ backup SG
DeRon at reserve PG.
Still have 2 spots open – I say Rondo and Iggy. The East would be small, but very athletic, and with great D. You could make arguments for Deng and Jennings, but I say stick with Rondo and Iggy.
Stein wants to put a Pacer player on there. Shaft Rondo, and stick Hibbert on there if needed.
But I’m a homer, and I’m really pushing for two All Stars from the Hawks, so it is what it is.
Shaft DeRon since he’s on a losing squad, and record plays a large role on the selections, and throw Jennings in there if you want. I’m just not sold that Jennings is as good as people are saying. I prefer DeRon at the Point.
Jody
February 6th, 2012
3:28 pm
Lol at somebody suggesting too much selfish play when he’s one of the top two main culprits.
Astro Joe
February 6th, 2012
3:29 pm
Najeh, cross-court passes are also lethal against teams like the 76ers and Grizzlies. I think in both cases, the opposing teams came ready to attack and immediately put the Hawks on their heels and they couldn’t recover. We’ve seen it with the T’Wolves and Pistons in the past few weeks, also. We just had the ability to roar back against the lesser teams.
It is interesting that Josh is emphasizing offensive excution in the above statement. That seems a little out of character.
SteveW
February 6th, 2012
3:34 pm
Interesting reading Josh’s comments. “While Josh Smith agrees that defense is a priority he is clearly more concerned with the offensive issues during the past two games.
“Everybody has their opinions,” said Smith when told of Drew’s comments about the defensive energy. “I think that defense is definitely the key to winning basketball games but if we don’t have any continuity on the offensive end it really definitely hurts us. When the ball sticks on one floor we get baited into playing one-on-one basketball. That’s what hurts this basketball team because when we are sharing the basketball, moving it from side to side, everybody is benefitting off goods shots, I think we help each other that much more on the defensive end.”
So Josh says LD’s thoughts are everybody having their own opinions. Hilarious! Hey Grandad, how would you like one of your players saying, everybody has their own opinions, talking about the Coach?
The other thing I’ve noticed Josh say, not just here but another time also, is that offensive touches affect his defense. You gotta grow beyond that. He includes everyone in this quote, but if you never see the ball on O – you still have to play stellar D. The one should not affect the other. Gotta grow mentally here.
ejay
February 6th, 2012
3:36 pm
Josh Smith: Field Goal Percentage By Location
From Hoopdata, through last night’s game:
Location FGA/G eFG%
At the rim 4.8 69.6
Everywhere else 8.7 33.7
STRETCH
February 6th, 2012
3:36 pm
Love Just Joe’s trade! Chandlers a tough guy that hits the boards and G Hill still has something in the tank. Dont know much about Morris but either way they get rid of Marvin and the crybaby Josh.
I mean seriously, how much more can one organization tolerate from a 7th year stubborn PF who constantly kills team chemistry? Oh, i forgot, we are talking about the Atlanta Hawks.
The only organization who in the league who still thinks they will be a 3 or 4 seed with Pachulia starting. The only organization in the league who thinks Al will come back 100% and lead them to the promised land!
And they wonder why other teams come to ATL and their fans own the place?
KevinM
February 6th, 2012
3:40 pm
Steve, Josh isn’t going to be an all-star…he has been too inconsistent lately and IMO he should be averaging a double double with Al being out. That hasn’t been the case and he needs to be a 20/10 guy for us. I know he’s not Zach Randolph, but he has to be our Zach Randolph. His minutes should be the only thing we should be worried about.
Don’t be surprised if its Mikki Moore from the NBDL that gets a call. Another guy who needs to learn from Collins about how to keep a job more than a year. Somehow, Collins can keep coming back year after year.
Say we get the same results as last year, do we seriously have justification to keep Sund and LD?
Dawg
February 6th, 2012
3:40 pm
The is nothing in this article that would make a Hawk’s fan feel good.
Rod from College Park
February 6th, 2012
3:41 pm
Buddy Grizzard,
Playing Marvin more minutes won’t result in his numbers increasing. He will just turn invisible for those remaining minutes. I have no idea where some here are getting the Marvin is having a career year nonsense from. He is averaging 10.4ppg, 5.6rpg, 44%FG, and 49%3pt. Same numbers as last year, with the exception of his 3pt % which is up. No team will trade for him, unless they are trying to get rid of some garbage. They guy can’t post up Jodie Meeks or Jrue Holiday.
I am not sure what your problem with Pargo is, but he is just as good as Kirk at this point. Pargo was an extremely good backup point guard behind CP3 two years ago, and had serious knee problems which forced him to have 2 knee surgeries. He seems to be just getting back to old form, and was doing a good job of running the second unit, not giving up leads, and knocking down shots before Kirk came back. Kirk is not a point guard anymore, and if his shot is not falling, he is useless. I have not been impressed with his defense either, as quick pg’s blow by him as well. I hope Kirk is only being played to showcase him for a trade, because the team has been much worse since he came back.
drmaryb.[*_*].
February 6th, 2012
3:45 pm
Seeing as how others prefer posting under my user I D, coupled with I have nothing new to say here, I’ll just enjoy reading my favorite blogger’s comments. At least until we get a big man hopefully, he will bring more than a pulse and and visible signs of respiration.
Until then, I look forward to seeing Zaza and, Ivan doing his work in the paint.
Astro Joe
February 6th, 2012
3:48 pm
Kevin, despite the comments of several bloggers, the lost of Al will likely result in Sund and LD coming back next season, especially if they are able to replicate the team’s outcome while missing their All-Star center (I know that offends many around here, but the fact remains that he is a two-time All-Star center).
Ra'mon
February 6th, 2012
3:49 pm
AJ, I haven’t commented much, because I haven’t really seen the last three games. But I think Josh doesn’t mind a PG who has that many FGAs. However, I think what Josh minds is a PG who looks to score FIRST before passing. In other words, if Teague gets his points after the ball swings, or is going from side to side, that is cool. But if Teague chooses to penetrate more often than swinging first, you’re not getting the defense off balance BEFORE attacking. This leads to harder offensive rebounds, and tougher fga in the lane. The other day when Josh was benched for the 3rd, I did see the last play he was in. And that turnover had as much to do with Teague inability to know when to come and get the ball, when a teammate is in distress than Josh’s bad pass. With 4-5 seconds left on the clock, and Josh is on the baseline (also Josh picked up his dribble AFTER Zaza didn’t clear out after missing his shot attempt), Teague has to know, he can’t stay at the top of the key, instead he has to move to the side so he can give Josh a better passing lane. On that sequence, Josh ended up mad at Zaza and Teague (can’t say I blame him for that one).
People are saying Josh are taking way too many bad shots. However, against Memphis, he only attempted two jumpers OUTSIDE of the lane. And three turnovers isn’t great, but it certainly isn’t enough to bench a player over.
Against Philadelphia, Josh that simply had a bad shooting night, that wasn’t basketball IQ. He only took 5 jumpers (going 1 for 5), but he also went 1 for 6 around the basket, that’s not basketball IQ, that’s simply having a bad night. If anything, Josh seems like he may be exhausted physically, and is losing his legs a little, causing bad shooting. Josh hustles so much on defense, and even more with the injuries. I truly think he is fatigued more than anything, but could be wrong.
And for those who say Josh needs to use the shot selection of Ivan Johnson, need to back up from the television. Ivan shoots a higher percentage of his shots from outside the lane than Josh does. And in only 15 minutes per game (less than half of Josh’s playing time), he is committing half the amount of turnovers Josh commits in 33.5 minutes per game, at a much higher usage. So its easy to assume that if Ivan was to receive more playing time, his turnover would be even greater (evident by the fact of 5 of the last 7 games, Ivan has committed 2 turnovers in less than 29 minutes of play).
drmaryb.[*_*].
February 6th, 2012
3:50 pm
I cant wait until my baby daddy G-dad post !
Whew Chile!
Baby I can be your motivation ! (and I’m not talking about Viagra !)
STRETCH
February 6th, 2012
3:50 pm
This is what ESPN had to say about the Hawks:
“Sorry, Hawks. Can’t give you two All-Stars when you have four wins in 12 tries against .500-or-better teams. The consolation: Atlanta is a tidy 12-0 against teams with losing records to rank as the only unbeaten team in that category even after losing Horford. And it’s 10-1 when Joe Johnson scores 20-plus.”
They ranked them 14th, while the Timberwoves,(while i like their core(no pun intended), are ranked 12th behind Portland at 11. The Celtics come in at 13.
Get a big Sund!
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
3:52 pm
“It is interesting that Josh is emphasizing offensive excution in the above statement. That seems a little out of character.”
This isn’t the first time he’s emphasized sharing the ball. I wish he would share the ball with Teague after getting defensive rebounds, though.
honest_abe
February 6th, 2012
3:56 pm
Methinks that while Josh may begrudingly accept that Joe is going to take his fair number of shots, I suspect that he has little use for a PG who has as many FGAs as he does (especially a younger PG). Pure speculation on my part, I just think that the whole “move the ball” thing is a dog-whistle for “there is a pecking order and I’m the second option on this here team”.
i concur. josh should be the 4th or 5th offensive option but he wants to be the guy that the offense runs through. it’s asinine. josh is hurting the development of teague. there are way too many instances of teague becoming a bystander, passively watching others throw up bricks and turning the ball over. everyone on this blog knows about my disgust for josh because he’s a selfish loser.
doc: too bad we couldn’t meet up. i left early for the game so i didn’t have access to the blogs. got there and left at halftime as i felt like going to that game was the biggest waste of time. awful.
Ra'mon
February 6th, 2012
3:56 pm
SteveW, show me where Josh ever stated that offensive touches affects HIS defense? It doesn’t. He’s saying lack of ball moving and getting everyone involved, affects the TEAM defense. And I don’t know one analyst (Hubie Brown, JVG, any of them) who doesn’t agree with this same statement. If you look at majority of Josh’s turnovers, they come from passes attempting to get teammates involved, not from dribbling mistakes (like are over exaggerated on this blog). Josh’s assist rate dropped when Horford went down, not because he stopped passing as much, but because Horford’s hands (who was normally on the other end of the passes under the basket) are much better than Zaza’s catching a pass or finishing at the rim. I’m not a drinking man, but if you took two shots of Jack Daniels every time Zaza dropped a pass, or missed a point blank layup, you’d be drunk by half time.
Spanish Speaking Sicilian
February 6th, 2012
3:57 pm
I love Mr. Davenpoop’s insightful comments. My hat off to you, sir.
O'Brien
February 6th, 2012
3:57 pm
I’m with AJ. Look for LD’s 3rd year contract option to be picked up, and look for Sund to take another one year deal (after all, who is going to hire him).
Even if the Hawks lose in the 1st round, the justification will be “we did not have Al”.
beone
February 6th, 2012
3:58 pm
Everyone has their opinions. I wonder if Josh thinks his are more important than the Coach’s. Even if Josh is correct and LD is wrong, that is an issue.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
3:59 pm
“I have no idea where some here are getting the Marvin is having a career year nonsense from. He is averaging 10.4ppg, 5.6rpg, 44%FG, and 49%3pt. Same numbers as last year, with the exception of his 3pt % which is up.”
His rebound rate, assist rate, 3 point percentage, and true shooting percentage are at career highs, while his turnover rate is at a career low. He is definitely having a career year from a per-minute standpoint.
Of course, the fact that this is the best he has played in his career only highlights what a disappointment his career has been. But at least he has become a pretty efficient role player, which is what he frustratingly failed to be consistently for the last six years.
Ra'mon
February 6th, 2012
4:02 pm
Najeh, AJ, O’B, Here’s the solution for it all. Marvin can’t handle the ball, Zaza can’t handle the ball. Joe is normally doubled. So out of the starters, Josh is the 2nd best player to handle the ball in the half court offense. So this is how you change this. Start McGrady over Marvin! McGrady will be able to have the ball in his hands more, and run the offense through him at the top of the key, on majority of your plays. This will also cut down on the inability to score on defenses in the beginning of the 3rd quarter! Let McGrady be the general at the beginning of the first and third quarters, and at the end of the fourth quarter. He still will average the same amount of minutes, but give you more options on who to possess the ball more.
Teague – Joe- McGrady – Josh – Zaza
Kirk – Willie Green – Marvin – Ivan (go to a 9 man rotation on majority of the nights, Vlad is a liability).
Rod from College Park
February 6th, 2012
4:04 pm
LD has been taking shots at Josh in the media this year, and Josh has taken a few shots back at LD. Not sure what that relationship really is, but it’s something to keep and eye on. I have to side with Josh on his comments though. Defense was not the problem in the Philly or Memphis game. Especially not from Josh’s perspective. It was offesive execution. Iso’s, dumb passes, and jumpshots caused many fastbreak baskets for both teams, which has nothing to do with defense. We should not be running iso’s at all without Jamal Crawford, as was the most effective iso player on the team. Joe is not an Iso guy unless he gets hot. I don’t understand why they don’t post him on the block more, as he can shoot over his man, and he also is deadly with that floater. That top of the key tricky dribble jump shot is terrible offense. TMac has to look to score. If he can’t score consistently, we are in serious trouble. I llok for us to get a win tonight, as Pheonix plays no defense, but when we play solid defensive teams, with this bad offense, we will continue to loose by double digits.
LT
February 6th, 2012
4:09 pm
“There is nothing in this article that would make a Hawk’s fan feel good.”
Agree…. smh
Rod from College Park
February 6th, 2012
4:10 pm
Ra’mon
“Start McGrady over Marvin! McGrady will be able to have the ball in his hands more, and run the offense through him at the top of the key, on majority of your plays.”
It’s really not that difficult. It’s actually very obvious. Marvin does not handle the ball longer than 2 seconds at any time, so he poses no threat. That is why his turnovers are so low. You don’t want to overuse Mcgrady, but that one move alone would make our starting unit 10 times better. Marvin is not sarting material. He is a standstill jumpshooter, and that it it.
Big Lou
February 6th, 2012
4:11 pm
With respect to the last two games, against the Grizzlies and the Sixers, I think Josh’s assessment is closer to the point than LD’s. The half court defense in both games was not that bad. What killed the Hawks was poor ball movement on offense, resulting in either turnovers or bad shots, which in turn resulted in transition opportunities for the other team. The field goal percentage and points in the paint allowed looks bad because of these transition baskets.
Agreed. Yet, LD is a complete idiot; he will not address the issues of his poor offensive schemes, horrid ability to utilize mismatches, and players’ ability to make free throws/drive to the basket. Even if the Hawks land a big man, they will continue to lose against good teams because of these reasons. It’s pretty pathetic that Jeff Teague(always hated on by LD, which screws him up), and Ivan Johnson are the only players on the team who have a clue. We need a coach that demands discipline from his players.
Ra'mon
February 6th, 2012
4:11 pm
Beone, Not only did Josh say this, but Joe echoed it. Its ASG fault. Stop getting these first term coaches who the players see no credibility in, so they can command respect. In the NBA, an assistant coach is almost like an employee to the PLAYERS not head coach. But you go and promote him. Go get Mike Fratello, JVG, Hubie Brown, and so on. Josh Smith’s entire career, you can not point to one season where he’s EVER been coached by someone in the top 10 in coaching abilities. And in actuality, this is his 2nd season ever with a coach who had offensive plays. Al had Donovan (a mastermind on offense) in college, Joe had D’Antoni, Kirk had Roy Williams and Flip Saunders. Josh came from high school where the play was ‘Get Josh the ball and move back’. That’s the problem. As an organization, don’t draft a PROSPECT (which Josh was) if you’re not committed to putting people who KNOW what they’re talking about around the guy. There’s no way, I’d take a high IQ’d 18 year old kid and stick him the mail room to ‘learn’ how to run the company. Josh failures speak more of this organization than anything if you TRULY think about it. Because no matter how you look at it. Josh and Al are the only players drafted (Teague still in early stages) by the Hawks to even be close to successful in the NBA in the last 10 seasons. That’s an organizational problem more than the players. What other team in the league can say they’ve only drafted or developed 2 considerably productive players. Memphis has more, OKC has more, Washington has more, Orlando, the CLIPPERS, Philly, Indiana.
Ole Hawks's Fan
February 6th, 2012
4:13 pm
Imagine Josh(with the turn over, out of control PG and Jump Shooting(With the crowd hollering Nooooooooooooo) talking about sharing the ball. That is so stupid. He doesn’t hustle back down the court on defense, he always argueing the call as the opposing team is bring the ball back down the court, make a statement in this BLOG nor ISO JJ(Is Woody still the coach?) letting the shot close run down as he attempts a fade away Jumper. Phoenix will blow this team out tonight. These guys(core) has tuned LD out and will not do as he suggest. I’m tired of Josh statements after a LOST and he isn’t looking in the mirrow. He needs to be moved out of his home town and go with a coach who want take his Me first baskeball and will make him ride the pine until the Light Bulb(If there is one) comes on upstairs. This is a dysfunctional core group that will never advance to the ECF as constructed. Blow the DAMN TEAM UP. Fire LD, ASG and SUND!
Ra'mon
February 6th, 2012
4:14 pm
Rod, Marvin is a Pole that can make jump shots, nothing else, nothing more. Right now teams are playing 5 on 3 against the Hawks on offense, and they wonder why Joe is doubled, and Josh making turnovers.
LT
February 6th, 2012
4:19 pm
“Everyone has their opinions. I wonder if Josh thinks his are more important than the Coach’s. Even if Josh is correct and LD is wrong, that is an issue.”
Agree…
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
February 6th, 2012
4:20 pm
Again I ask the question.
Why is Marvin Williams starting?
LT
February 6th, 2012
4:21 pm
No accountability on this team… From NOBODY!
Astro Joe
February 6th, 2012
4:22 pm
Yeah, we’ve all read Josh talk about moving the ball, just never quite like ‘dam the defense, we need to move the ball”. That entire sentiment is what I consider to be out of character.
Ra’mon, I’ve seen Teague make some “young PG mistajes” too. But there are times when his quickness provides the team’s greatest mismatch. So if he can get to the rim easily, that isn’t a bad offensive play for the team.
Now, I do recall in the memphis game, Gasol rotated on a pick and roll and was stuck on the perimeter. Teague easily penetrated for a basket with no shotblocker in sight. In the very next possession, they ran the same play but this time Gasol stayed in the paint. Teague opted to penetrate again and his shot was sent in the other direction.
Hopefully, they will “all just get along”.
Rod from College Park
February 6th, 2012
4:26 pm
“Rod, Marvin is a Pole that can make jump shots, nothing else, nothing more. Right now teams are playing 5 on 3 against the Hawks on offense, and they wonder why Joe is doubled, and Josh making turnovers.”
I have been making this point for 3 years. It does not look as bad with Horford, but now with bad hands Zaza, there is no way Marvin should start. McGrady seems to know how to get Zaza the ball in scoring position, as well, as I am almost positive that he is responsible for most of Zaza’s assist this year. If this lineup with Marvin is trotted out in the playoffs, I would be willing to bet anyone, that we will get beat worse than ever.
Ra'mon
February 6th, 2012
4:30 pm
Simple question, if you’re in a car, and the driver is leading you down the wrong road, are you going to say anything, or just ride? You’re on the plane, and the pilot is leading you into the trees, are you going to stop him, or just ride? You’re an NBA player watching your prime years go by with no postseason success, and the coach(es) continue trying to do the same thing that caused you to lose before, are you going to say something or just ride?
There are only 2 coaches in the NBA that would have Marvin Williams starting the last 3-4 seasons, and the Hawks hired both of them. There are only 2 coaches in the NBA who would’ve started Bibby the last 3-4 seasons, and the Hawks hired both of them. There’s been no recent coach in the last 15 seasons to win a title with a motion offense. But the Hawks hired the coach who think it can happen. There’s been only one team who won a title with no offensive game plan in the last 20 seasons, and the Hawks hired the one who thought he could do it annually.
Until its new management, new coaches, new owners, I’m going to think the best things for Joe and Josh career’s is to be traded or amnestied. Because this team in suits, isn’t bringing any banners to this arena, unless its David Banner or the Hulk.
O'Brien
February 6th, 2012
4:30 pm
Rod,
The one play call that makes no sense to me is the Iso-JJ at the end of quarters. He hardly ever scores on those isos.
I’m with Najeh. They need to let Teague handle the ball at the end of the quarter, because the JJ iso leads to the other 4 players standing around, while JJ goes 1 on 2, and most of the time, he is unsuccessful.
Rod from College Park
February 6th, 2012
4:31 pm
Ole Hawks’s Fan
“He doesn’t hustle back down the court on defense, he always argueing the call as the opposing team is bring the ball back down the court, make a statement in this BLOG nor ISO JJ(Is Woody still the coach?) letting the shot close run down as he attempts a fade away Jumper.”
Wow. He did all those things and still had 7 blocks in one game (LOL). Never seen a guy who never hustles, and argues all the time do that. If he was not hustling, then what were Marvin and Joe doing?
Ra'mon
February 6th, 2012
4:31 pm
AJ, I think what’s happening with Teague, is what happens anytime any PG
Ra'mon
February 6th, 2012
4:33 pm
AJ, I think what’s happening with Teague, is what happens anytime any PG takes over a team, and there name isn’t Nash. Speaking of Nash, I would trade Kirk, Marvin, and Zaza for Nash and Lopez. And after this, I would put Teague as my two guard, with Joe playing the 3.
Rod from College Park
February 6th, 2012
4:35 pm
O’Brien,
“The one play call that makes no sense to me is the Iso-JJ at the end of quarters. He hardly ever scores on those isos.”
Could not agree more. I cringe every time I see it. I seriously can only remember 1 time this year when he scored on that play. Joe is not Jamal. I don’t understand how many more times that play needs to fail before LD realizes to stop running it. I would much rather let Teague penetrate and kick on those end of the quarter plays.
O'Brien
February 6th, 2012
4:39 pm
From MC’s blog dated August 11, 2010. “Inside Camp Drew”.
“There was lots of motion and ball movement, yes, but what stood out was how much of the action had players cutting to the basket. It seemed there always was an option for the next man in the sequence to either accept the ball while moving to his position or reverse field and look for a cut to the basket. Not everything happens on the strong side, either, so ball-watching and inattentiveness by defenders can mean backdoor baskets.
“It’s very difficult to guard,” Conner said. “You have to be precise in your defensive schemes. You can be beat at any spot on the floor at any time. NBA teams don’t like to guard a lot of movement and screens. I’ve heard the guys [Hawks players] are all for it and are excited about it.”
For weeks L.D. has said his system would “force the ball to move” and I get that now. Things happen so fast there’s not much opportunity for holding the ball. The screens and cuts happen quickly and if the first option is not there then the ball quickly swings the other way, leading to move movement.
Not much possession time is spent on the one- or even two-man game. Each guy gets a chance to touch the ball at different spots on the floor. Decisions must be made quickly for things to flow correctly.
L.D. has some work to do with that. Woody had a lot of stuff he wanted to run too but he never could coax guys to do it consistently. Things got tough and the Hawks freelanced.
Drew is going to have to break the Hawks out of their iso offense, sometime-y defense mold. It will be interesting to see how he manages it and how the players take to it once it’s time to do the work.
Drew is going to have to break the Hawks out of their iso offense, sometime-y defense mold.”.MC.
So much for that
Ra'mon
February 6th, 2012
4:40 pm
Is LD, the only coach who is not committed to running pick and roll with his PG? Or why not try a pick and pop with Vlad when he’s in the game?
Rod from College Park
February 6th, 2012
4:41 pm
Worldwide Clyde,
“Again I ask the question.
Why is Marvin Williams starting?”
That my friend, is the 10 million dollar question. I am convinced he walked in on somebody in the organization doing something that they don’t want to get out. There is no other explantion. Philly guarded Marvin with Jodie Meeks, and Jrue Holiday. That is the amount of respect they give him.
newkid
February 6th, 2012
4:41 pm
“Everybody has their opinions.” Not sure how fruitful it is for a ‘player’ (one of 13) to characterize the head coach’s position as one among many, if in fact that’s what Josh is doing.
In the NBA veteran players either allow themselves to be managed, or they don’t. When they don’t they become a cancer, and for the health of the patient, cancers need to be removed or purged. Josh, both by deeds and words, seems to have made it crystal clear over time that he will not be managed here in Atlanta, PERIOD.
If there is any hope for Josh to come close to approaching his on-court potential, he badly needs the combination of attributes offered only by the Boston Celtics. No other organization has the unique combination of organizational culture and history, no nonsense head coach, a cadre of accomplished veteran leaders who’ll put you in your place, and a demanding point guard required to force an arrogant talented youth like Josh that team goals are primary and you play the role defined by the coach or you don’t play at all. This cat has consistently shown that he’ll eat coaches like Drew for lunch, squash organizations like the Hawks, and obliterate meek captains like Joe. “Can’t win with him, can’t coach with him, can’t do it…”
Rod from College Park
February 6th, 2012
4:44 pm
I think it is pretty scary when your starting PF can diagnose the problem with the team correctly, and the head coach is way off base. Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
honest_abe
February 6th, 2012
4:49 pm
amen newkid. amen.
Astro Joe
February 6th, 2012
4:54 pm
I think who finishes the game is infinitely more important than who starts the game.
Ra’mon, I agree, there is an adjustment anytime a new PG takes over the reigns. I’m just of the opinion that Josh isn’t looking to be one of the first guys to “buy-in”. We saw some of this last year after the Hinrich trade, Kirk would stand there waiting for Josh to pass him the ball and Josh would dribble by him like he was a referee. Josh don’t need no stinkin’ PG, Josh just needs the ball. The excuse makers claimed “he only trusts a PG who can actually lead a fast break”. Those guys have been remarkably quiet as Josh ignores Teague a few times each and every game.
Hollywould
February 6th, 2012
4:56 pm
Teague should eat up Nash tonite. Let’s see if the rest of the team and the coach will let him run the show.
Rod from College Park
February 6th, 2012
4:56 pm
newkid,
While I agree with you somewhat, Josh would thrive in a number of situations. San Antonio, LA. Pheonix, Philly come to mind. He simply needs a point guard who is a leader, and runs a offense, or a head coach who knows basketball and is well respected. A coach who tells Josh to shoot the open jumper when it is there all season, but then turns on him in the playoffs and says I’ve told him many times to not shoot it in the media, will tend to not earn respect. A head coach who takes jabs at him all the time in the media, but won’t call out Joe Johnson, Horford, or Marvin Williams will not command your respect. If Josh played with Paul, Rondo, Nash, Kobe, Derron Williams, he would be all star material. No diss to Teague, but he has not become a floor General yet. Hell, if LD put Josh on the floor with TMac more, I am convinced his shot selection would improve.
Luke Cage
February 6th, 2012
4:57 pm
SWEET CHRISTMAS!!!
Luke Cage
February 6th, 2012
5:03 pm
How many game has Teague started in the NBA?? hard to become that floor general when your still somewhat finding your way on this team, give dude time and he will become just that, I love his play thus far despite being held back with shotty coaching from Woody & LD.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
5:03 pm
The only reservation I have about T-Mac starting is that if he is given starters’ minutes he is likely to get injured again.
Ra'mon
February 6th, 2012
5:03 pm
AJ, question, how often do you see Teague PASS on a fast break, that’s the concern, lol. That’s why Josh doesn’t pass it to him. And if you remember, before he got hurt, Al wouldn’t pass it to Teague on fast breaks either also, because he knew he wouldn’t get it back. I’m actually thinking, it wouldn’t be bad to have Teague as a two guard, and another facilitator at the point. Teague doesn’t seem interested in averaging 10 assists in his career, lol. He reminds me of Terry, but with better defense, and less of a jumper.
Rod from College Park
February 6th, 2012
5:04 pm
“We saw some of this last year after the Hinrich trade, Kirk would stand there waiting for Josh to pass him the ball and Josh would dribble by him like he was a referee. Josh don’t need no stinkin’ PG, Josh just needs the ball. The excuse makers claimed “he only trusts a PG who can actually lead a fast break”. Those guys have been remarkably quiet as Josh ignores Teague a few times each and every game.”
Have you seen Hinrich play? I would dribble by him also, he is horrible. Not to mention he is no longer a decent point guard. Teague is not a pass first point guard, he is a scoring point guard. He surely is not a floor general yet and is only averaging 5 assists a game while playing heavy minutes. I like Teague by the way.
Luke Cage
February 6th, 2012
5:12 pm
Hey lets bring Bibby back, at least he’ll pass. He’ll also stand around, play zero defense, be a liability on both ends, skip down the court, avg no more assists than Teague, no on ball D, no quickness, but hey he will pass the ball!
I rather give the guy time to grow before I start making changes, we have a gem in our PG, started what, under 35 games in his career??
newkid
February 6th, 2012
5:13 pm
Rod, if a coach like Pop had the essential supporting cast, he might very well be willing to take on a cat like Josh. But Pop can’t – and won’t – attempt to integrate that kind of cancer with soft spoken Duncan, and laid back Parker. No, Josh needs a VERY strong and demanding village in which to be integrated. He needs to have cats like Russell, Hondo, Heinsohn, Cornbread, and other past greats with multiple rings coming around to consistently cajole and support the messages of the likes of KG, Paul, Doc, Ray, etc. In my opinion that village only exists in Boston. He – and others (probably including his pop) – will dispute it, but Josh needs Boston in the worst way.
Ra'mon
February 6th, 2012
5:16 pm
Luke Cage, its about a certain court vision where you see the entire court, or tunnel vision where you see the basket. Its not a negative, just different. Rubio, Nash, Lebron, and others they have that vision. No one is saying Teague isn’t good (although I don’t think he’s a pg). Just saying could use a facilitator on offense.
ntrigue
February 6th, 2012
5:17 pm
Key is ball movement and take care of the ball (minimize turnovers) and substitutions made in accordance of the game flow!
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
5:20 pm
” how often do you see Teague PASS on a fast break, that’s the concern, lol. That’s why Josh doesn’t pass it to him.”
Not a good enough reason in my opinion. Teague still handles the ball better on the break than Josh, and still pushes the ball to the rim better than anyone else on this team. Josh is smart enough to realize that Teague is still a work in progress as a distributor, and to know that he’s only going to get better by getting more opportunities.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
5:21 pm
Pargo>Kirk @ the point right now…
C’mon Larry wake the freak up man….Pargo should back up Da Blur!
Kirk back up Joe…Lost two steps…..Rust I hope?
You lose your third game in a row because your offense is horrendous its time to shake it up.. Huh?
Does Josh know how to give and go? He could make a good living with that technique?
Stop standing around and watching Teague and ISO.. Motion offense please……Move!!!!!!!!!!!
Its panic time if this squad gets kicked around tonight?
Gearon’s puppet just blowing smoke in the house……..It stinks too! lol
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
5:22 pm
Tony Parker is a “true” point guard and he averages 5.8 assists per game for his career. To me he is the most accurate comparison for Teague, and I’m pretty sure Teague can beat 5.8 assists per game as he continues improving. He’s at 5.2 right now.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
5:23 pm
Kirk is a two guard trying to play the 1 and getting blown by on the defensive end….Looks extra slow right now…….Rust I hope?
Rod from College Park
February 6th, 2012
5:25 pm
newkid,
I think you are a little off in your assesment. Hell, TMac has only been here for a couple of months, and has already commented on Josh’s high basketball IQ. He does not need a village, He needs a coach he repects, that knows how to design plays to take advantage of mismatches, and runs some sort of offense. If you continuously have Josh spotted up behind the 3 point line, with Joe running iso plays and a scared to shoot Marvin on the wing, then either Joe or Marvin will continue to pass to a wide open Josh Smith on the perimeter, and the jump shots will continue. Or, he needs a pass first point guard like Rondo, Kidd, Paul, Rubio. I think Teague will develop into a great pg, but now he is a shoot first pg.
ntrigue
February 6th, 2012
5:27 pm
A lot of the plays Josh makes no one else on team can make ….true sometimes Josh needs to understand that he needs to give the ball up especially after he’s had a couple of turnovers or if were fighting our way back into the game. I would never pass to Kirk either cause he doesn’t like to run he will stop at the top of the key and try to setup the offense because he knows he’s not a threat to finish that’s not his game!
Ra'mon
February 6th, 2012
5:28 pm
Tony Parker is a scorer more than a pure point guard. Parker has routinely been the 2nd high scorer on the Spurs. That’s why his career average is higher than Ginobili’s. For the last 7 seasons, in the playoffs, its been about stopping Parker, more than stopping Duncan (evident by his Finals’ MVP).
ntrigue
February 6th, 2012
5:30 pm
Kirk should be used as two guard against quicker guards! Not hard to see come on coach wake up!
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
5:30 pm
The guards have got to be in attack mode tonight..Layup line…Three man weave.If your tired sit down and watch….
Rod from College Park
February 6th, 2012
5:31 pm
“Not a good enough reason in my opinion. Teague still handles the ball better on the break than Josh, and still pushes the ball to the rim better than anyone else on this team. Josh is smart enough to realize that Teague is still a work in progress as a distributor, and to know that he’s only going to get better by getting more opportunities.”
I do agree that Josh should give the ball up after defensive rebounds, but Teague, right now is not a great facilitator. McGrady is the best on the team, that is why he should be in with the starters. Teague is a one man fast break at this point.
Ray
February 6th, 2012
5:33 pm
Tick Tock Tick Tock the clock is winding down on this core group.
Next up Phoneix Suns who will look to out shoot the hawks out of their own gym lol.
Anyone got some latest news on our C search like can we please get a Benson in here?
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
5:34 pm
” Parker has routinely been the 2nd high scorer on the Spurs. That’s why his career average is higher than Ginobili’s. For the last 7 seasons, in the playoffs, its been about stopping Parker, more than stopping Duncan (evident by his Finals’ MVP).”
All true, but it still doesn’t mean Duncan brings the ball up on fast breaks.
I don’t think Josh is an idiot or a cancer or whatever. I think he has a very good understanding of the game. He just doesn’t have a very good understanding of his own abilities and limitations. Yeah, he handles the ball better than most big men, but that still doesn’t mean he handles it well, and it certainly doesn’t mean he handles it better than Teague. He needs to give the ball up, because in the long run as Teague becomes a better passer it will only benefit him.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
5:34 pm
I cant stand Marvin’s demeanor..He always looks and play f______king scared out there!
Imagine if he had the heart of say Rudy Gay????????????
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
5:36 pm
The Core is one and done more than likely…They peaked 3 years ago……
Grandad
February 6th, 2012
5:37 pm
(1) “Everybody has their opinions,”
(2) “When the ball sticks on one floor
we get baited into playing one-on-one basketball.
That’s what hurts this basketball team
because when we are sharing the basketball,
moving it from side to side, everybody is benefitting off goods shots”
(2b) To clarify his remarks:
“Iso … it’s pretty much self explanatory,” Smith answered.
____________________________________________
1st of all ** ** for SteveW
(1) Were Josh at a lower level [college or below] I would have *kicked his ass;
*figuratively.
Seriously, It would have been unacceptable.
As a professional, he’s a grown man,
we would have sat down in my office for a closed door mtg.
____________________________________________
(2) & (2b) or not 2b that is the question ? *(for Sautee)
____________________________________________
(2) & (2b) In all seriousness;
I was very proud of Josh, as these were mature thoughtful remarks.
[not at all directed at Teaguer, but at Joe, I think]
Joe has, in the last two game reverted to old habits,
as I stated in a previous blog.
However, TO’s have been a plague to which Josh has contributed mightily.
Had he further taken “shared responsibility” for the TO’s
it would have carried much more weight.
___________________________________________
-editors note-
My apologies for the above ^^ word-play ^^ on ‘`Hamlet’s Soliloquy`’
Ra'mon
February 6th, 2012
5:41 pm
Najeh, who would you rather have FINISHING a fast break? Josh or Teague? Who’s more likely to kick out to Joe for a wide open 3 Josh or Teague? If Teague would pass more on the break, then I’d be all for it. But as I said Al does it too. So it must be a universal feeling that Teague doesn’t routinely make the best plays on the court in the full court. If you think about it. Josh always look up court when he gets the ball to make sure nothing is there, before finally giving it to Teague. Can’t say that is wrong or right, depends on the situation.
Luke Cage
February 6th, 2012
5:49 pm
It took time for Parker, Paul, D. Williams, Nash, Rondo, or any other PG you guys wish we had and won’t get for them to get the level they are at, again, Teague hasn’t started many games, he will grow into his role sooner than later.
Starting T-Mac would hurt in the long run because of his age and his knees, playing him with the 2nd unit has helped us and has helped his career.
Are we packing it in on Teague already??
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
5:51 pm
“Who’s more likely to kick out to Joe for a wide open 3 Josh or Teague?”
Josh is much more likely to kick out to Joe for a wide open 3, which is partly why I don’t want him leading fast breaks. I am tired of fast breaks ending in jump shots. I’d much rather Teague take it coast to coast and make a layup. Over time he’ll get better at finding teammates on the break.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
5:54 pm
As for Josh finishing fast breaks, of course I’d rather see him finish them. The problem is that too often when he takes it coast to coast, he doesn’t even get himself a good look. Which shot is more likely to go in — a Josh dunk attempt set up by Teague, or the acrobatic and often contested layups that Josh often has to make when he tries to create his own attempt?
Josh needs to take his own advice. Share the ball with the point guard. If the point guard isn’t rewarding you on the break, yell at him if you want, but keep feeding him so he’ll learn. It does Teague no good to stand around watching Josh leading the break, just like it did him no good sitting on the bench watching Bibby play point guard.
Rod from College Park
February 6th, 2012
5:58 pm
Luke Cage,
Nobody is saying that Teague won’t improve, we are talking about right now. TMac can still play the same amount of minutes, he just needs to be on the floor with the starters to handle the ball more, and keep it out of Josh’s hands. He also won’t feel like he has to defer to Josh like Teague and Marvin do. He will also take some of that pressure off of Joe, as teams will not leave him, like they do Marvin.
KevinM
February 6th, 2012
5:59 pm
The coach is in charge, should be in charge, and the PF, while a captain, needs to be a supporter of the regime. If he isn’t he shouldn’t be a captain.
Going forward, if our PF would use all his energy on his game and not getting to know the backside of a ref, we might get better results.
Again, this guy should be good for 20/10 every night, especially with Al out.
And our PG needs to be propped up, not attacked by a captain or a coach.
Luke Cage
February 6th, 2012
6:02 pm
I give up lol.
Jase
February 6th, 2012
6:03 pm
Let’s get a big man here!!!! Start Ivan at PF
terrell
February 6th, 2012
6:04 pm
Energy, energy, energy. So tired of that damm word.
terrell
February 6th, 2012
6:05 pm
$100 Josh takes the 1st shot??
Luke Cage
February 6th, 2012
6:10 pm
LOL@starting Ivan
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
February 6th, 2012
6:12 pm
Cosign every single Rod post.
Marvin has done jackshy7 this yar vs undersized guys like Ridnour and Korver who are awful defenders.
Hell, put any player in the league on Marvin and I guaranteehe will still fall down, get stripped, and NOT FINISH THE PLAY
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
February 6th, 2012
6:13 pm
Guarantee he
yodaddybrother
February 6th, 2012
6:14 pm
Ivan Johnson is on NBA2k12 now…..rated a 67
pointguardslim
February 6th, 2012
6:17 pm
“That said, the Grizzlies game would have probably been closer if Josh had been more selfish and taken advantage of his matchup instead of forcing passes.”
No you need to take advantage of movement and the defensive 3 second rule. Smith 1 on 1 over bigger players = airball. Hes not Iverson. He needs Movement.
LD’s got guys running into each other. Just run the Pick and roll. We used to run it with Horford (He would just fade) and Josh all the time (dunks). What happened? Can we get an answer?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3abug9frGOY
prison mike
February 6th, 2012
6:18 pm
Should be a win, Vegas has hawks by 7.5. Joe doesn’t have a counterpart like Iggy or Allen to outplay and out hustle him.
Another thing, Josh needs the ball on LEFT block NOT the right block. He’s a fish outta water on the right.
Mr Fix-It
February 6th, 2012
6:20 pm
Share the ball? Uhh NO. How about you do whatever you can to help the team win? Everyone doesn’t HAVE to score. Plenty of guys have made careers on the defensive end. So tired of the whining out of this lockerroom, that’s why no one shows up!
W. R. Terrell
February 6th, 2012
6:24 pm
Anyone looking for a blowout over the suns tonight?…Here’s a clue, if fantasy superstar in his own mind Josh Smith becomes a launching pad and do his 2 for 11, 3 for 15 kinda thang, then, the team will fold and we will get beaten by 20.
pointguardslim
February 6th, 2012
6:26 pm
whoa. Why does Blake Griffin push the ball in transition. He has Chris Paul?
Why no one ever makes excuses when we had Horford and Josh both pushing the ball?
Smith/Blake could wait to find the PG but then halfcourt defense is set. It confuses the defense if you can rebound and not wait for the offense.
It’s called early offense. Blake Griffin did it, Magic Johnson did it, Barkley did it, Jordan did it, Lebron does it. Heck even Duncan did it when he played PF with David Robinson. And these guys have better halfcourt post games than Josh and Horford.
Its called early offense and creates mismatches. If you want Smith in transition you should play him at the wing instead of Marvin. I still remember Marvin bricked a fast break dunk.
Hes bigger, slower and a worst ball handler yet we play him as a wing because hes too soft to play inside and rebound where Smith plays (PF/C).
IN THEORY If we switched Josh to the wing for transition points then Marvin would never get rebounds, get embarassed or throw out his back.
But Marvin is 245 and he cant guard Lavoy Allen or Thaddeus Young while Josh goes HAM on Iguodala? I know Coach Collins went with Hawes at PF for a few plays but he started a rookie.
Come on Coach. come on Sund. Got to get Smith to that small forward/wing position.
Sautee
February 6th, 2012
6:31 pm
Ramon,
“Its ASG fault. Stop getting these first term coaches who the players see no credibility in, so they can command respect.”
Far be it from me to defend the ASG, but isn’t the story out there that the players ASKED for Uncle Larry, and Sund wanted Casey, but deferred to the owners who wanted to keep the players happy? To me, that’s NO reason to hire a coach, but…
vava74
February 6th, 2012
6:32 pm
Great posts in general by Rod and Ra’mon.
Don’t agree 100% but close.
Josh never had any decent coaching so he plays with fire but without discipline.
Without any good teachers you can’t expect miracles.
Also agreed that with Al, Marvin’s inability to affect the game beyond spot shooting is channeling defences towards JJ and resulting in worse shots and possessions by Josh.
Don’t necessarily agree that Hinrich is buried yet but he his getting way too many minutes given his current form. Pargo was doing fine and being aggressive on both ends. Not perfect but improving game to game IMO.
On JJ’s ISO – agree that he goes too much into that but I think he suffers from poor officiating like no other player in the league.
On Teague, he should be getting the rock always on fast breaks. Josh needs to understand that and go back to the basics: 3 lanes and a trailer is how you play a fast break.
On T-Mac starting: I would do it and on his absence I would split minutes between Green and Hinrich at the SG slot and start JJ at the SF.
Marvin could still get his 25 minutes backing up JJ and Josh and greeting his shots with the second unit.
vava74
February 6th, 2012
6:36 pm
“without Al”
yodaddybrother
February 6th, 2012
6:38 pm
@ RaMon
Teague at the 2 and Nash at the 1??? yeah that’s real smart….a 6 ft SG and a non defensive PG.
bruh…this aint 2k12
Another GM
February 6th, 2012
6:40 pm
If not looking to pick up a player to replace Collins on a 10 day is not cheap, I would shudder to wonder what is on behalf of ownership!
Sautee
February 6th, 2012
6:51 pm
Grandad,
“Brevity is the soul of wit.” Well done.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
6:54 pm
“No you need to take advantage of movement and the defensive 3 second rule. Smith 1 on 1 over bigger players = airball.”
He was being guarded by small players (Cunningham, Gay, Conley on one possession) that entire game. The only bigger player who guarded him was Speights, who is an awful defender and got burned by Josh a couple of times in the first half.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
6:57 pm
Early offensive? Interesting term, PGSlim….
BTW, all those forwards you named have better handles than Josh Smith…Hmmmmm?
His handles and his jumpshot are broke….Never learned the fundamentals 10 years ago..Too late now…Four years of college would have helped him big time.
So he can do other things to contribute like so many other guys do….Stop trying to be a hero….Shessh……
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
7:01 pm
Somebody should have handed Josh that Magic Johnson Basketball DVD a long time ago..
Which shows you how to practice the offensive skills to make yourself a new and improved basketball player..
His old man or High school coaches should have taught this dude how to shoot the rock for starters!
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
7:03 pm
“all those forwards you named have better handles than Josh Smith”
Co-sign.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
7:04 pm
The Suns will throw 3 seven footers at the Hawks tonight! Wow…..
Suns by double digits……..
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
February 6th, 2012
7:06 pm
LOL this front office actually thinks Twin should be a regular rotational player
Rod from College Park
February 6th, 2012
7:07 pm
pointguardslim is right. the pick and roll has become non existent is this offense. It really makes no sense at all.
Blast
February 6th, 2012
7:09 pm
Everybody talking about offense, deffence, what about turnovers? I think this is killing Hawks more than anything else.
ryan
February 6th, 2012
7:10 pm
We passed on Chris Paul for Marvin Williams remember ASG is the Forest Gump of the NBA stupid is as stupid does .
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
7:12 pm
If Josh could dribble drive to his right and pullup(Stop and pop) left for that midrange jumper( 8-13 feet), he would be UN-guardable!! We left hand’ers have a huge advantage, especially scoring the ball…
Throw in the glass. Allstar for years to come….lol
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
7:17 pm
You will never compete in an ECF or Championship with Marvina as your featured starting #3!
That spot is reserved for STARSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! Not sissies…….
MattP
February 6th, 2012
7:17 pm
I am afraid to watch this game, no telling if LD or “the core” decides to play or give up. We should have won that Sixers game but LD screwed it up.
Reached its ceiling
February 6th, 2012
7:19 pm
Bad matchup tonight. Phoenix is loaded with 7 footers.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
7:19 pm
12-17 point loss…It’s going to be ugly…
Gonna pull up the lakers/philly game….
Hawks Fan Down Under
February 6th, 2012
7:20 pm
The key to snapping this 2 game skid is sacking the coach.
Also I like how Josh and Joe took responsibility for their selfish and poor play over the last 2 games….oh wait ….what?
Hawks will win tonight, its a below 500 team. Next loss coming against over 500 Indy.
Isaiah Rider
February 6th, 2012
7:20 pm
The Hawks are pretenders. The have minimal talent and will fold like they always do in the playoffs.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
7:21 pm
Yea but they struggle against just about any Western conference team it seems…..A trap game?
steven a smith
February 6th, 2012
7:24 pm
Best scenario for the Atlanta Hawks is to go on a 10-15 game losing streak that would force them to “FIRE” Larry Drew and Trade away Josh and Marvin.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
7:26 pm
The Hawks in 06 passed on rondo and rudy for “SHELLHEAD”! What?
That was the worst pick of the last decade for the Hawks by far because of the talent available..
If Billy had Rick Sund’s connection he’d be somewhere else screwing up too…
MattP
February 6th, 2012
7:27 pm
Isaiah Rider,
The Hawks have the talent, just the coach does not know what to do with it. Sixer game was a good example of it, why was Ivan only out there for 25 minutes when he came out strong and continued the whole game?
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
7:28 pm
Not a big fan of that Josh-Frye matchup. Josh’s weakness on D is chasing people around the perimeter.
terrell
February 6th, 2012
7:29 pm
Marvin just happy to get some dap on a missed or made free throw. lol.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
7:29 pm
Yea its a givin that Larry struggles knowing how to utilize his bench, rotations…
He maybe a decent x and o guy, but 3-8 against the winners says it aint working….Bottom line..
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
7:31 pm
With no Nique and no working scoreboards, how are Hawks fans supposed to get accurate info about the nimbers?
Adolf Hitler
February 6th, 2012
7:38 pm
Isaiah Rider has a lot of damn gall coming on this blog after dogging it to the max while with the Hawks.
Big Lou
February 6th, 2012
7:39 pm
“Not a big fan of that Josh-Frye matchup. Josh’s weakness on D is chasing people around the perimeter.” – Najeh
Not to mention he tries to block anyone who drives to the basket, which leads the guy to be open.
Big Lou
February 6th, 2012
7:40 pm
LOL @ Larry Drew saying their defense needs to be better? What about this crappy offense?
ntrigue
February 6th, 2012
7:41 pm
There go Drew always calling out Jeff Teague! Never says anything about Joe never!
O'Brien
February 6th, 2012
7:41 pm
One of the coaches said they need Teague to be more aggressive, and that too many times he defers to JJ.
Well, LD makes JJ out as untouchable (takes whatever shot he wants, never gets called out), so what do they expect the young PG to do?
And I’m glad we have the Stinger calling the game. We get to hear some actual analysis
Old Man Peabody
February 6th, 2012
7:41 pm
I don’t know what’s funnier, Hawks record against above .500 teams or the fans thinking it takes 7 years for Josh to reach his potential. Josh is what he is and average player that can go on 5-8 games spurts were he is a beast. Out of the 24 games played, he’s only topped 20 pts 5 times. That’s not an Allstar
steven a smith
February 6th, 2012
7:41 pm
2 “Moves” the Atlanta Hawks must make to get better. Start Kurt Hinrich at the 2/Joe 3. Find a trade partner for Josh Smith.
aldog
February 6th, 2012
7:42 pm
Bottom line is Josh needs to keep his mouth shut. If not then maybe LD should take his place and let Josh be the coach. My biggest problem with J Smooth is he thinks he’s a point guard. For crying out loud I can’t understand for the life of me why this guy can’t get a rebound, give the ball to his point guard and run the floor. I am sick and tired of him dribbling the ball up the floor. If he doesn’t want to listen to you LD sit his but down and if that doesn’t work ship him out the door with his arrogant butt.
MattP
February 6th, 2012
7:42 pm
airball is our first shot… going to be a long night.
Big Lou
February 6th, 2012
7:42 pm
First offensive possession, pass to Josh Smith for a brick J. FIRE LD!
terrell
February 6th, 2012
7:42 pm
I WANT MY $100! Josh with the airball.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
7:43 pm
So much for better ball movement on offense and more intensity on defense. Not seeing either one so far.
O'Brien
February 6th, 2012
7:43 pm
And will people stop making excuses for Josh. Its been 7 years in the league, and we’re still making excuses.
- If only he had a respected coach
- If only his coach knew how to use him
- If only he had gone to college
- If only he played with a pass first PG.
Stop it.
Big Lou
February 6th, 2012
7:43 pm
Josh gets burned on the three. Fry is going to have a big game.
steven a smith
February 6th, 2012
7:44 pm
Marvin is untradeable. However, he should be comming off the bench PERMANENTLY; allow him to play out his horrible contract….
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
7:44 pm
Teague missed Josh for an alley oop on that last possession.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
7:44 pm
steven a smith
February 6th, 2012
7:41 pm
“2 “Moves” the Atlanta Hawks must make to get better. Start Kurt Hinrich at the 2/Joe 3. Find a trade partner for Josh Smith.”
Shake it up if they lose by double digits tonight!
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
7:45 pm
Can’t go under screens against Nash.
Big Lou
February 6th, 2012
7:45 pm
Wow. Are we taking advantage of a mismatch? Am I dead?
Where’s the defense?
Big Lou
February 6th, 2012
7:46 pm
Pacers are going to destroy this team.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
7:47 pm
Every possession, the Suns run a pick for Nash, the Hawks inexplicably switch, they post up Teague, someone comes down to help, and they rotate the ball for an open 3.
STOP SWITCHIN’
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
7:48 pm
TEAGUE
High-Tech Lynching
February 6th, 2012
7:48 pm
Teague with the baseline dunk!
steven a smith
February 6th, 2012
7:48 pm
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
7:44 pm
Shake it up if they lose by double digits tonight!
Agree..Time to Blow up this TRAIN wreck. When Al gets healthy, Trade his sorry butt to.
Luke Cage
February 6th, 2012
7:48 pm
Maybe Jeff shoulda passed instead of dunked lol
Blast
February 6th, 2012
7:48 pm
Monster slam, Teague! He must be aggressive!
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
7:48 pm
Even more amazing than that Teague dunk, Marvin finishes a fast break.
Big Lou
February 6th, 2012
7:48 pm
“Every possession, the Suns run a pick for Nash, the Hawks inexplicably switch, they post up Teague, someone comes down to help, and they rotate the ball for an open 3.
STOP SWITCHIN’” – Najeh
You would think they learned from Dwight Howard and the Magic. Play them one on one.
steven a smith
February 6th, 2012
7:50 pm
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
7:44 pm
steven a smith
February 6th, 2012
7:41 pm
“2 “Moves” the Atlanta Hawks must make to get better. Start Kurt Hinrich at the 2/Joe 3. Find a trade partner for Josh Smith.”
Shake it up if they lose by double digits tonight!
Ditto.
Big Lou
February 6th, 2012
7:50 pm
Teague…. WOW!
O'Brien
February 6th, 2012
7:50 pm
Wow. Another great move from Jeff.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
7:50 pm
Iso-Teague looked pretty nice on that possession.
Ray
February 6th, 2012
7:50 pm
Jeff Teague GOING TO WORK YEAH BOY!
High-Tech Lynching
February 6th, 2012
7:50 pm
Teague with the shake-and-bake make. Criss-cross applesauce.
MattP
February 6th, 2012
7:50 pm
That was fun to watch. lol
O'Brien
February 6th, 2012
7:50 pm
And why do we keep switching!
Sautee
February 6th, 2012
7:51 pm
Hot Sauce Teague?
yodaddybrother
February 6th, 2012
7:51 pm
Stinger > Nique
Big Lou
February 6th, 2012
7:51 pm
Watch LD put in Kirk. That’s how stupid he is.
drmaryb.[*_*].
February 6th, 2012
7:52 pm
Nice to see Teague initiating all the plays on offense and Josh filling the lanes. That is fundamental. Why does this team insists on doing everything the hard way?
Just give the damn ball to Teague!!!!!!!!!!!! (Good Josh tonight?)
Big Lou
February 6th, 2012
7:53 pm
“And why do we keep switching!”
Bad Coaching.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
7:53 pm
Nice pass Josh
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
7:54 pm
3 on 1 fast break and they can’t score.
Big Lou
February 6th, 2012
7:54 pm
Josh keeps screwing up on defense.
Sautee
February 6th, 2012
7:54 pm
“And why do we keep switching!”
Stop it!
O’brein with the Ditka impression, lol.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
7:55 pm
Keep putting in work Zaza.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
7:56 pm
Here comes the Teague for Kirk substitution for no reason.
Big Lou
February 6th, 2012
7:56 pm
LD puts in Kirk. What an idiot.
MattP
February 6th, 2012
7:57 pm
Why take out Teague!
ntrigue
February 6th, 2012
7:57 pm
See this is that dumb stuff why is Teague out?
Bigman needed
February 6th, 2012
7:57 pm
Zaza doing a nice job
Big Lou
February 6th, 2012
7:57 pm
Bullsh!t defense.
J.J.M.
February 6th, 2012
7:57 pm
lol josh is weak!
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
7:57 pm
That 69.6% at the rim is coming down tonight.
Brad
February 6th, 2012
7:58 pm
Najeh/All,
Do you guys know where to stream this game now that firstrowsports is shut down?
O'Brien
February 6th, 2012
7:58 pm
But Najeh,
Kirk defends Steve as well as anyone
MattP
February 6th, 2012
7:59 pm
Josh should have been on of the first subbed out….
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
7:59 pm
“Do you guys know where to stream this game now that firstrowsports is shut down?”
Firstrowsports still exists, it just moved. It’s firstrowsports dot eu now. You can also try chanfeed dot com, lshunter dot tv, or forum dot wiziwig dot eu.
High-Tech Lynching
February 6th, 2012
8:00 pm
I sense bad chemistry between Kirk and Josh. I don’t think Josh likes Kirk; another sign of Josh’s immaturity. Teammates need to keep professional and should never let it get personal on the court.
ntrigue
February 6th, 2012
8:00 pm
2 no calls from ref on Josh! Coach should keep Teague in as long as Steve is in Teague is the youngest player on the team he can play the extra mins he always takes him out when he’s hot makes no sense!
Bigman needed
February 6th, 2012
8:00 pm
Get in on the wizard firesale. Blatche and mcgee would look nice patrolling the paint for the hawks
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
8:00 pm
“Kirk defends Steve as well as anyone”
Haha as soon as he said that, Kirk lost Nash on screens on two consecutive defensive possessions.
Brad
February 6th, 2012
8:00 pm
Thanks, much appreciated
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
8:01 pm
Nash gets a wide open jumper as Kirk gets lost on a screen AGAIN.
Big Lou
February 6th, 2012
8:01 pm
Kirk gets burned again. I swear to God, LD is retarded.
O'Brien
February 6th, 2012
8:01 pm
And Kirk gave Nash too much space
Sautee
February 6th, 2012
8:02 pm
This Kirk is not yet close to the Kirk from the Magic series.
Not even close. Use Pargo a little more.
ntrigue
February 6th, 2012
8:02 pm
Soon as Teague goes out Steve starts killing
High-Tech Lynching
February 6th, 2012
8:02 pm
Zaza’s wack; his offense is more luck than skill.
Big Lou
February 6th, 2012
8:02 pm
LD kills the Hawks flow of the game. I’m thinking this will be a loss.
Blast
February 6th, 2012
8:02 pm
Shot clock violation is = to a turnover.
O'Brien
February 6th, 2012
8:02 pm
Ok Hawks GM bloggers. What’s the trade we can make for Robin Lopez?
He doesnt get much PT for Phoenix, and I think he is better than Twin
Runner-
February 6th, 2012
8:03 pm
What the hell are they doing out there?
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
8:03 pm
Teague +1, Kirk -5.
Joe Mama
February 6th, 2012
8:03 pm
This is the new Bill Lambeer. He may not have all the talent but he is dirty and shows the type of fighting under the boards that makes Al Horford chit in his diapers.
Runner-
February 6th, 2012
8:03 pm
“and I think he is better than Twin”
That’s an understatement
Big Lou
February 6th, 2012
8:04 pm
Why would you sit Teague? The guy was ballin’ his butt off.
Joe Mama
February 6th, 2012
8:04 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/video-kevin-love-no-mincing-words-stomped-luis-164915189.html
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
8:04 pm
T-Mac is consistently short on these jumpers.
terrell
February 6th, 2012
8:04 pm
Old azz Nash can play the whole qtr, but Uncle Larry pulls a hot Jeff Teague? Fire his sorry butt!
Isaiah Rider
February 6th, 2012
8:05 pm
You have to be smoking something if you think the Hawks have a prayer of winning a title.
Admiral Ackbar
February 6th, 2012
8:06 pm
Is there anyway we could somehow pry Marcin Gortat?
ITS A TRAP!!!!
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
8:06 pm
The ball just never goes inside when Kirk is running the point. This is the same offense the Hawks ran when Bibby was here. Pass it around the perimeter, no penetration, jumpshot.
Runner-
February 6th, 2012
8:06 pm
“Old azz Nash can play the whole qtr, but Uncle Larry pulls a hot Jeff Teague? Fire his sorry butt!”
and that’s why the Hawks have a superior record to the Suns? Maybe Alvin should coach more like Drew, not the other way around..
ntrigue
February 6th, 2012
8:06 pm
You see how there coach does he let’s Steve play whole qtr cause he’s playing well he just doesn’t take him out just because. Drew makes a lot of our games harder than they should. I can’t wait till I’m sitting behind the bench I’m going to let Drew know everytime he does a dumb substitution since none of his coaches say anything!
Big Lou
February 6th, 2012
8:07 pm
“Old azz Nash can play the whole qtr, but Uncle Larry pulls a hot Jeff Teague? Fire his sorry butt!”
Agreed. USE YOUR POINT GUARD!
Adolf Hitler
February 6th, 2012
8:07 pm
And if anyone knows about smoking something, it would be Isaiah.
im a black man
February 6th, 2012
8:07 pm
teague needs to sit the _____ down. Hes a ball hog and doesnt no how to run the team and get the most out of the players. He should not be leading. When ever hes in he should just out run every body, use his athleticism, score as much as he can, then go sit down because teague is the most unintelligent guy on the team.
KevinM
February 6th, 2012
8:08 pm
Jump shot after jump shot….that’s all we’ve got!
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
8:08 pm
Bob loves that play by Kirk, conveniently ignoring that he has been horrible on D every other possession of this game.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
8:09 pm
J-Chill getting offensive boards like he so often did here.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
8:09 pm
“Jump shot after jump shot….that’s all we’ve got!”
As long as they play someone at PG who can’t penetrate defenses, yese.
J.J.M.
February 6th, 2012
8:10 pm
lol another blowout in making
KevinM
February 6th, 2012
8:10 pm
Stinger says the Suns are stretching us out…oh boy.
Our interior defense is on the inactive list.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
8:10 pm
YEP THE SUNS ARE STARTING TO PULL AWAY!!! ALREADY…..
Runner-
February 6th, 2012
8:11 pm
man if we cant beat these Suns tonight this month is gonna be a looooooooong month
KevinM
February 6th, 2012
8:11 pm
Spot on Najeh..our only savior is JT.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
8:12 pm
Larry aint got a clue what a sorry coach!
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
8:12 pm
Down 10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mr Fix-It
February 6th, 2012
8:13 pm
Blow it up. Best team in Atlanta, right? LMAO
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
8:13 pm
Uh oh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Joe Mama
February 6th, 2012
8:13 pm
“Not having Al or Twin it limits us in a certain area as far as what our defensive schemes have been. Offensively nothing much changes there. It’s more on the defensive end. We’ll have to make some adjustments.”
LOLOLOLO
Offensively nothings changed….LOL
We not much has change defensively because we cant put enough big bodies out there. We know Al is frightened of the rough and tumble of the low post which is why he is always on the perimeter guarding and getting beat by itty bitty guards. But he doesnt mind. Better that than having to man up at the rim. .
Drew may be the worst coach since the coach who coached the last Hawks game….who was that …oh. thats right that was Drew.
Drew may be the worst coach sense Drew.
Please dont let Teague run this offensive.. the team will be discombobulated.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
8:13 pm
Larry=Cox…Clueless……………
Luke Cage
February 6th, 2012
8:14 pm
this is sad to watch
Runner-
February 6th, 2012
8:14 pm
maybe Ivan should start watching basketball some more, you can’t just drive it in on Lopez like that!!
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
8:14 pm
Down 12!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tb hawk fan i think
February 6th, 2012
8:14 pm
come on get way behind
Joe Mama
February 6th, 2012
8:14 pm
Woodson keep his starters out there because he did not have a bench. He had no choice.
ntrigue
February 6th, 2012
8:15 pm
We have a terrible coach that’s why were losing sad!
Runner-
February 6th, 2012
8:15 pm
Ivan should watch b ball more often, you can’t drive it in on Lopez like that!!
Mac-Town (#maconchevyrider)
February 6th, 2012
8:15 pm
Waitin’ on that “energy” and “sense of urgency, like its April and you need to win just to make the playoffs”
High-Tech Lynching
February 6th, 2012
8:16 pm
Anybody miss Jamal Crawford?
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
8:16 pm
The Blowout has begun midway through the 2nd Quarter! Wow!
Down 14!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
8:17 pm
Down 16, a train wreck!
Luke Cage
February 6th, 2012
8:17 pm
I’ve been noticing a trend of other team’s SCRUBS just getting any and hitting any shot they want?!?!!?
tb hawk fan i think
February 6th, 2012
8:17 pm
we have forgot how tol play
JaeEvolution
February 6th, 2012
8:17 pm
Telfair has some sort of personal grudge against Teague, what a clown.
Mac-Town (#maconchevyrider)
February 6th, 2012
8:17 pm
Guess we’re just gonna “play with the hand we’ve been dealt”
Luke Cage
February 6th, 2012
8:17 pm
TIME OUT!!!
KevinM
February 6th, 2012
8:18 pm
OB, their bench is outplaying our starters!
Slim, you predicted it and I thought no way!
This is bad, really bad.
Melvin
February 6th, 2012
8:18 pm
What the heck is going on with this team?
Sautee
February 6th, 2012
8:18 pm
What’s up with the blog? 3 posts listed as 8:42 and now hung up?
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
8:19 pm
Game is over before the half.
can the Hawks beat any Western Conference team??????????????????????????????????????
jcwfalcon
February 6th, 2012
8:19 pm
How did the Hawks get so bad so quickly?
Joe Mama
February 6th, 2012
8:20 pm
Well Drew, since the loss of All NBA Al Horford. How his your team suffered.
“Offensively nothing much changes there.”
Are you saying that Al brought nothing to the table offensively? Arent you missing his 12pts 9 rebounds?
Like I said before, “Offensively nothing much changes there.”
ntrigue
February 6th, 2012
8:20 pm
We would’ve still been if it was not for the stupid substitutions I don’t blame the players for bad coaching he messed up the whole rhythm of the game I hate coach Drew!
tb hawk fan i think
February 6th, 2012
8:20 pm
now let’s bragg on the suns
Sautee
February 6th, 2012
8:21 pm
very strange. computer malfunction?
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
8:21 pm
getting beatdown by a 9 win squad..So sad!
Mr.E
February 6th, 2012
8:21 pm
How is Larry Drew coaching in the NBA?
MattP
February 6th, 2012
8:21 pm
Well, game is already over. Thank you LD for ruining the flow that the starters had. Now our starters can’t even close the gap against their bench.
keepinitreal
February 6th, 2012
8:21 pm
Same stuff the Hawks pulled last year. They have an alarming number of games where they simply choose not to show up.
KevinM
February 6th, 2012
8:21 pm
The old pro coming out in Redd….Teague is in trouble.
Luke Cage
February 6th, 2012
8:21 pm
The Suns will let the Hawks back in the game, trust me!!
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
8:22 pm
Teague has 3 fouls…
The flood gates are opening up now…..
im a black man
February 6th, 2012
8:22 pm
“Everybody has their opinions,” said Smith when told of Drew’s comments about the defensive energy. “I think that defense is definitely the key to winning basketball games but if we don’t have any continuity on the offensive end it really definitely hurts us. When the ball sticks on one floor we get baited into playing one-on-one basketball. That’s what hurts this basketball team because when we are sharing the basketball, moving it from side to side, everybody is benefiting off goods shots,”
That makes sense to me too, thats why we dont want Jeff teague running the offense
ntrigue
February 6th, 2012
8:22 pm
WWe shouldn’t have to play zone against this team either! Just dumb!
Mr Fix-It
February 6th, 2012
8:23 pm
Well Drew, since the loss of All NBA Al Horford. How his your team suffered.
“Offensively nothing much changes there.”
Are you saying that Al brought nothing to the table offensively? Arent you missing his 12pts 9 rebounds?
Like I said before, “Offensively nothing much changes there.”
Co-sign !!
Mac-Town (#maconchevyrider)
February 6th, 2012
8:23 pm
no plans, just going with what we’ve got lol
Luke Cage
February 6th, 2012
8:24 pm
Whats our record since Kirk was forced down our throats and Pargo has been nailed to the bench??
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
8:24 pm
KevinM
February 6th, 2012
8:18 pm
“OB, their bench is outplaying our starters!
Slim, you predicted it and I thought no way!
This is bad, really bad.”
So sad KEVINM,
This is in Gearon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bigman needed
February 6th, 2012
8:24 pm
We are being dominated by brook lopez, phx backup center
High-Tech Lynching
February 6th, 2012
8:24 pm
Zaza tips ball into his own basket.
Sautee
February 6th, 2012
8:24 pm
lol @ t-s. No Al to beat down so now he’s on Teague. Too bad no one is responding.
T-s, you need some better bait.
tb hawk fan i think
February 6th, 2012
8:24 pm
no rebounds no defence no scoring no nothing
jcwfalcon
February 6th, 2012
8:25 pm
Josh needs to be traded. He gets so lazy the first time things dont go his way…and it gets exponentially worse.
TMACfan
February 6th, 2012
8:25 pm
Just a Question, What shoes does Joe Johnson wear? I know they’re Air Jordan but what model?
Mac-Town (#maconchevyrider)
February 6th, 2012
8:26 pm
just get it to 10 or below
keepinitreal
February 6th, 2012
8:26 pm
The Difference between Woodson and Drew’s management is Drew has a high quality bench and Woodson Had no bench.
But actually Drew could coach worse if he plays teague to much. We need to start Hinrich.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
8:27 pm
Gearon,Sund, and Larry have got to go!asap!
Luke Cage
February 6th, 2012
8:28 pm
HELP????
Wabe
February 6th, 2012
8:29 pm
A lot of folks were quick to say how the Hawks were ‘better off’ minus Al Horford…
I know bashing the dude’s toughness became the popular attack on this blog…
But, at this point, I think it’s safe to say that there’s no way this team is going anywhere without Al Horford.
Spyro
February 6th, 2012
8:29 pm
Come on Josh, make your free throws!!
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
8:29 pm
No, the Hawks apparently cant beat a Western Conference Team….
Al Horford
February 6th, 2012
8:29 pm
Either play me or trade me baby.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
8:33 pm
will somebody reset the blog server?
bigdave
February 6th, 2012
8:34 pm
nice finish in traffic Marvin
jcwfalcon
February 6th, 2012
8:34 pm
Where Amazing Happened 10 Years Ago
Grant Hill and Steve Nash vs Tracy McGrady and Jerry Stackhouse
ntrigue
February 6th, 2012
8:35 pm
All drew is good for is whistling!
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
8:37 pm
Nash is destroying Kirk…17pt half
High-Tech Lynching
February 6th, 2012
8:37 pm
Steve Nash is killin’ the Hawks.
Spyro
February 6th, 2012
8:37 pm
Of course Nash gets the three back at the buzzer.
jcwfalcon
February 6th, 2012
8:37 pm
Where Amazing Happened 10 Years Ago
Grant Hill and Steve Nash vs
Tracy McGrady and Jerry Stackhouse
Who wants to buy a ticket like its 1999?
Luke Cage
February 6th, 2012
8:37 pm
This Blog is straight Garbage at times
Sautee
February 6th, 2012
8:38 pm
Blog will blow up at 8:42
Harpie
February 6th, 2012
8:39 pm
Larry Drew is a disease….
Bigman needed
February 6th, 2012
8:39 pm
I hate to say it but phx physical bigs could wear on us as this game goes on
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
8:40 pm
sixers up 4 on the lakers with about 2mins left in the 3rd!
Runner-
February 6th, 2012
8:42 pm
Suns were going to Robin almost every play that half, smart coaching to go after our undersized “centers”. Can’t believe Hawks are still in this thing after that awful quarter
terrell
February 6th, 2012
8:42 pm
Stick with the bench while the lead grows why dontcha LD??? Clown!
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
8:42 pm
No rim protector on the second unit. Nobody who can drive inside on the second unit. Just a bunch of jump shooters and Ivan.
Big Lou
February 6th, 2012
8:42 pm
Woodson kept his starters out too long, and LD doesn’t keep them out enough.
GG Hawks. Let the spiral begin. They are down by 8 against a CRAPPY Suns team. This should have been an easy win.
O'Brien
February 6th, 2012
8:42 pm
Their bench is outplaying our bench.
Where is to tell us how much we needed Jamal.
But one thing is clear when it comes to Kirk. he does not penetrate. Dude has 0 FTA in his 6 games back, and most of his shots are jumpers
Mr Fix-It
February 6th, 2012
8:42 pm
Didn’t Josh complain about the offense pre-game? He’s taken more shots than anyone! 1 rebound! WTF
Al can’t save you now. EXPOSED.
LT
February 6th, 2012
8:42 pm
Fire LD!!!!
ntrigue
February 6th, 2012
8:42 pm
Larry the whistle man drew!
Smith
February 6th, 2012
8:43 pm
@Najeh Teague:-6 Hinrich: -1 Any words?
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
8:43 pm
Am I banned?
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
8:44 pm
It kept telling me “You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down.” for the last half an hour. WTF happened to this blog?
Dept. of Unintended Irony
February 6th, 2012
8:44 pm
“Am I banned?”
Unfortunately, no.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
8:45 pm
“Teague:-6 Hinrich: -1 Any words?”
Good for Kirk, he played well in the second quarter and almost made up for his horrendous first stint on the floor.
Sautee
February 6th, 2012
8:45 pm
Maybe now that 8:42 has passed the blog will free itself up.
Mr Fix-It
February 6th, 2012
8:46 pm
I cant wait till we trade Al
TMACfan
February 6th, 2012
8:46 pm
Hell yeah jcwfalcon
jcwfalcon
February 6th, 2012
8:46 pm
Steve Nash and Grant Hill against Tracy McGrady and Jerry Stackhouse.
Exciting if I had a time machine.
Big Lou
February 6th, 2012
8:46 pm
Well, Kirk allowed the three at the end with his ‘Brilliant’ defense.
Dept. Of Unintended Irony
February 6th, 2012
8:46 pm
I hope Najeh realizes the imposter. Besides, there was nothing ironic about that post.
Dept. of Unintended Irony
February 6th, 2012
8:47 pm
“I hope Najeh realizes the imposter. Besides, there was nothing ironic about that post.”
The fact that he asked “Am I banned?” expecting no post is, in essence, ironic.
Walt Frazier
February 6th, 2012
8:48 pm
Larry Drew is destroying this team. He has put in Kirk Hinrich in and taken Jeff Teague out and again, like last year, treating Teague like a step-child. I say again, I don’t like it, and the Hawks will continue to get embarrassed at home and as long as Drew makes these kinds of changes. Once upon a time, early in the season-they were on a roll. But as Hinrich’s injured shoulder healed, Larry thought it not robbery to focus on Teague’s mistakes-and then bench him-and then insert a chomping at the bit-Hinrich, who probably resented Teague’s success while he sat in street clothes-on the bench. Teague may be under contract, but he will never fully develop into the player he can be fooling around with these hapless Hawks. We got too many teams with birds anyway. ASG-sell the team and get out of the sports entertainment business.
Sautee
February 6th, 2012
8:49 pm
Najeh,
For some reason, about 8:20, several posts, including one of yours were listed at being posted at 8:42. The post order was screwy then until 8:43.
Computer gremlins, I reckon.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
8:51 pm
Yeah, looks like the blog had some Mongolians in the system.
MarchItUp
February 6th, 2012
8:51 pm
“For some reason, about 8:20, several posts, including one of yours were listed at being posted at 8:42. The post order was screwy then until 8:43.
Computer gremlins, I reckon.”
Cool story, bro.
Dept. Of Unintended Irony
February 6th, 2012
8:52 pm
Some “handle thief” needs to look up the meaning of ironic.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
8:52 pm
DUI, I could tell.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
8:54 pm
Again, the Hawks start the 3rd quarter with no ball movement and no defensive pressure.
Runner-
February 6th, 2012
8:55 pm
Najeh Davenpoop
8:51 pm
hahahahaha, classic
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
8:56 pm
Box the f-ck out Zaza
Big Lou
February 6th, 2012
8:56 pm
It this a surprise? LD is a horrible coach, and it’s starting to show.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
8:56 pm
ZAZA THIS ISN’T F-CKING VOLLEYBALL
bigdave
February 6th, 2012
8:57 pm
Josh keeps leaving Frye
Jase
February 6th, 2012
8:58 pm
We need a center bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bigdave
February 6th, 2012
8:58 pm
Vlad instead of Ivan?
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
8:59 pm
0-3 in Feb, standby….cant stop em….
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
8:59 pm
Why is Vlad in for Zaza instead of Ivan? LD is trying his hardest to lose this game.
Mr Fix-It
February 6th, 2012
9:00 pm
Damn its the Josh and JJ show. but teague is not doing his part
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:00 pm
LD is CLUELESS!
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
9:00 pm
That’s gotta be a clear path foul, right?
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:01 pm
6 days into Feb.. 0-3 coming up… Larry is a major contributor,,Way ta go Coach Smith,,,I mean Drew….They both suck….
Big Lou
February 6th, 2012
9:02 pm
Damn its the Josh and JJ show. but teague is not doing his part – Mr Fit-nothing
You sir, have no freaking clue.
tb hawk fan i think
February 6th, 2012
9:03 pm
we can’t hit abig fat bull in the but tonight
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
9:04 pm
You would think LD would have learned after going with the Josh at center lineup the other day.
Mr Fix-It
February 6th, 2012
9:04 pm
Really?
Marvin Williams
#24 21:59 6 3 2 2
Josh Smith
#5 24:08 18 5 2 0
Joe Johnson
#2 26:26 17 2 3 0
Jeff Teague
#0 18:59 6 1 0 3
Vladimir Radmanovic
#77 09:58 0 3 1 0
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
9:05 pm
A Vlad post up? This is getting ugly.
bigdave
February 6th, 2012
9:05 pm
oh my.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:05 pm
Hawks 0- for whatever against the Western Conference!!!
They are a pretender.. They have been exposed!
TMACfan
February 6th, 2012
9:05 pm
That is why Radman is available for the Veterans minimum.
Mr Fix-It
February 6th, 2012
9:06 pm
“think LD would have learned after going with the Josh at center lineup the other day.”
That Josh is a small forward/ power forward ?
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:06 pm
I predicted a 12-20 pt loss!
Rusty
February 6th, 2012
9:06 pm
What happens to the hawks is this idiot of a coach.first he always taking out jt & then keeping the second team in until we are down 10. When he puts the regs in we down & the whole team is out of syc . Is he planning for his retirement by betting against us. Nothing else explains it,no one could possibly be that dumb,or could he.
drmaryb.[*_*].
February 6th, 2012
9:06 pm
For a lot less money Vlad Rad impersonating Dan Uggla with that FUGLY shot. Hopefully Vlad will go on a tear after the AS break and start a new streak of consecutive games with a hit … I mean a shot.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
9:06 pm
Teague didn’t make that floater, but that’s what he needs to be doing. Running this “give it up and pass it around the perimeter while Teague stands around” offense is pointless, literally.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:07 pm
No shot in the 2012 playoffs.One and done….
bigdave
February 6th, 2012
9:07 pm
make LD look like a fool Ivan.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
9:07 pm
Ivan should have been on the floor five minutes ago.
Spyro
February 6th, 2012
9:07 pm
Drew, Radmanovic is -15 and is 0-4…Get him off the floor.
Spyro
February 6th, 2012
9:08 pm
And, on cue, he does.
Blast
February 6th, 2012
9:08 pm
Hawks have gone cold?
Hawks are in freezerville!
Are they throwing this game and the last two on purpose just to force management to spend more money on players?
bigdave
February 6th, 2012
9:08 pm
Josh pouts for not getting the ball on offense, while Ivan crashes the glass.
drmaryb.[*_*].
February 6th, 2012
9:08 pm
Ivan just hit that jump shot, but the floor spacing was horrendous.
Big Lou
February 6th, 2012
9:08 pm
This team isn’t even worth watching anymore. Seeya in the playoffs.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:09 pm
LD is CLUELESS….
Mr Fix-It
February 6th, 2012
9:09 pm
Teague is not doing his part?
A point frck guard with no Assist! what the fck is that ?
pt rb ast pr
6 1 0 3
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
9:09 pm
The obvious weakness of any zone defense is that it’s easy to give up offensive rebounds. So when the Suns switch to zone, why the f-ck wouldn’t you put your best offensive rebounder on the floor?
This is one of LD’s worst games of the season without a doubt.
Spyro
February 6th, 2012
9:09 pm
@Slim: Portland and Minny are Western conference teams…
tb hawk fan i think
February 6th, 2012
9:09 pm
were shooting like little girls
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:10 pm
2-12 slump..
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
9:10 pm
Can’t get a whole lot of assists when you are giving the ball up and standing around on every possession.
They need to be setting picks for Teague and letting him drive into the lane.
brigadierjerry
February 6th, 2012
9:10 pm
This game is starting to get ugly, real ugly. LD has never been good on making adjustments
Melvin
February 6th, 2012
9:10 pm
The Hawks offense looks terrible. This Princeton style offense do not work on the pro level….
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:10 pm
Okay 2- whatever……
Winner
February 6th, 2012
9:11 pm
Marvin Williams has more assist than dumb as teague. Teague is fcking this offense up. He should be packaged with Al.
Rusty
February 6th, 2012
9:11 pm
Mr fix it you couldn’t fix your own azz.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:11 pm
Dream Weaver? How bout nightmare on Peachtree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Spyro
February 6th, 2012
9:11 pm
And New Orleans…
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
9:12 pm
Wow, what a heady, veteran turnover there by Kirk.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:12 pm
Coach they quit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Spyro
February 6th, 2012
9:12 pm
Jesus, Hinrich.
Rusty
February 6th, 2012
9:12 pm
Winner your a loser
drmaryb.[*_*].
February 6th, 2012
9:12 pm
Marvin drives like an old blue haired lady from Sarasota, FL. He can drive just fine from point A to point B, but he can’t park a yugo in a handicapped parking space.
What was all the mustard on that shot for? Dunk the damned ball, or just pass it to someone who can finish a play!
Winner
February 6th, 2012
9:13 pm
“They need to be setting picks for Teague and letting him drive into the lane”.
Isnt teague suppose to be “da blur’? the fastest man on the court? Why would he need a pick to lose his man.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:13 pm
Down 20!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bigman needed
February 6th, 2012
9:13 pm
APB on willie green!
bigdave
February 6th, 2012
9:13 pm
smh.
Rusty
February 6th, 2012
9:13 pm
Like LD
High-Tech Lynching
February 6th, 2012
9:13 pm
The Hawks are playing with bad body language; they’ve given up.
Al Horford
February 6th, 2012
9:13 pm
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!
Jase
February 6th, 2012
9:13 pm
This team suck ass!!!!!
John Drew
February 6th, 2012
9:14 pm
The Hawks basketball IQ is so low that they probably lose to the Kentucky Wildcats.
Luke Cage
February 6th, 2012
9:14 pm
Wow bet you clowns wish we had All NBA in there playing instead Zsa Zsa huh?
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
9:14 pm
The Suns outscored the Hawks 24-6 to end that quarter, playing zone almost the entire time.
The Hawks have two major assets they can use to combat a zone. They have a quick point guard who can get in the lane and force the zone to collapse, and they have two big men who are good at offensive rebounding.
Instead, they spend the majority of that time with the quick point guard giving it up and standing around, and the two big men on the bench.
What a pathetic coaching job by LD.
HawkFan
February 6th, 2012
9:14 pm
no way I’d go to a game, I can’t even watch on tv.
back to cajun pawn stars for me.
time to bust this team up with a trade.
drmaryb.[*_*].
February 6th, 2012
9:15 pm
Rachel Maddow on MSNBC has more game than Marvin. Down 20 points so, I’m flipping channels for entertainment value.
Al Horford
February 6th, 2012
9:15 pm
Offense and defense unchanged without me eh? But suddenly you can’t beat good teams?????!?!?!?!?
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Lon Stotts
February 6th, 2012
9:15 pm
One thing the Hawks have been consistent at is ensuring their opponent has its largest lead of the game at the end of the quarter
Jase
February 6th, 2012
9:15 pm
We are not going to win with Zaza at center
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:15 pm
Spyro
February 6th, 2012
9:11 pm
“And New Orleans”…
Im too tired to look it up..
9th seed out West if they played out there permanently! SAD..My prediction is coming true….
O'Brien
February 6th, 2012
9:15 pm
Its one thing to lose to a team above .500. Its one thing to lose on the road. But its another thing to lose to a team below .500, in your own building.
High-Tech Lynching
February 6th, 2012
9:15 pm
Hawks are taking another beatdown at home.
ntrigue
February 6th, 2012
9:15 pm
Teague needs ISO ran everytime they zone us
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
9:16 pm
Honestly, if they had kept Zaza and Ivan both in the game and just let Teague drive and throw up floaters every play, even if Teague didn’t hit a single floater, they would have come up with offensive rebounds just about every possession and would have scored more than 6 f-cking points against the zone.
Winner
February 6th, 2012
9:16 pm
stupid as teague has O assist, that ball hogging mother fcker.
Greg
February 6th, 2012
9:16 pm
Now THIS is what I thought would happen when Horford got hurt. Can you say 0-4 homestand? FRAUDS.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
9:16 pm
And now they have Kirk’s non-penetrating ass going against the zone accomplishing nothing.
Spyro
February 6th, 2012
9:16 pm
LD, Teague barely played in the first half because of foul trouble… WHY THE F*CK IS HINRICH ON THE FLOOR OVER HIM AT ALL THIS HALF?!?!
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:16 pm
I love men.
Jase
February 6th, 2012
9:17 pm
Something has to change!!!!!!
ntrigue
February 6th, 2012
9:17 pm
Hinrich terrible
Winner
February 6th, 2012
9:17 pm
Fck teague he should be able to create his own shots. Bitch.
Crybaby Hawk Fans
February 6th, 2012
9:17 pm
The Marvin comments are getting rather repetitious and boring, we know he won’t be much so why waste time talking about it. Face it he’s untradable, and he’s going to start until they get a young SF via draft, sadly just deal with it. Insults obviously ain’t making this guy play any better
tb hawk fan i think
February 6th, 2012
9:17 pm
what has gone wrong with our offence
O'Brien
February 6th, 2012
9:17 pm
Come on hawks. Win or lose, lets make a run and finish strong.
Meanwhile, our offense looks terrible. Pass the ball around, until somebody shoots it.
And Josh talked about the offense, which is true. but our last 3 home games (including tonight) have seen the opponent shoot over 51% from the field.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
9:17 pm
“Its one thing to lose to a team above .500. Its one thing to lose on the road. But its another thing to lose to a team below .500, in your own building.”
By 20+ points at that.
Spyro
February 6th, 2012
9:17 pm
Good God, Hinrich, what the hell are you doing?
Melvin
February 6th, 2012
9:17 pm
Hinrich looks untradeable…
Spyro
February 6th, 2012
9:18 pm
FIRE TEAGUE NOW!!
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
9:18 pm
Kirk lets his man get an offensive board.
Jase
February 6th, 2012
9:18 pm
Zaza suck
Blast
February 6th, 2012
9:18 pm
Here we go again…
Another blowout loss….
At home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
O'Brien
February 6th, 2012
9:18 pm
Wow. Did they just take the rebound away from Zaza? And the Hawks fdront office think we are ok with just Zaza?
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:18 pm
Jase
February 6th, 2012
9:17 pm
Something has to change
Where do u start?
Peter
February 6th, 2012
9:19 pm
Please remember when playing a plus 500 team they are bad, and now also at home against sub 500 team……..this is sad !
Al Horford
February 6th, 2012
9:19 pm
HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Spyro
February 6th, 2012
9:19 pm
Spyro
February 6th, 2012
9:18 pm
FIRE TEAGUE NOW!!
——–
This was not me.
Jase
February 6th, 2012
9:19 pm
CO-SIGN SPYRO
FIRE TEAGUE NOW!!!
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:19 pm
SLB loves himself!
Crazy_88
February 6th, 2012
9:19 pm
Larry Drew is a lame duck coach ! I absolutely hate the way he rotates players in and out of the lineup…What’s the point of having Tracy on the team If he’s going to play him 8 minutes and give him 2 shots…what’s the point in pointing in your bench when you’re down 20 freaking points!
I’m convinced that Joe Johnson and Josh Smith purposely break plays or that the only play LD calls are Isolation plays for Joe & Josh.
The Suns are 9-14…and the Hawks are getting embarrassed…
TEAM MEETING !
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
9:19 pm
The Pacers are going to murder this team if they play like this.
atlchris77
February 6th, 2012
9:20 pm
I have been watching this team for18 yrs since i moved from NY. We have a solid group of guys. We mirror image of the sixers. I.e. no top ten star. But we are solid. I am convinced our players are not being coached up. They are getting by on talent alone. We need a better coach. That is one of the reasons no one takes th Hawksserious as contenders. I would also suggest to Mr. Gearon that is why they have a hard time seloing tickets.
Fire LD and spend moneyon coach.
J.J.M.
February 6th, 2012
9:20 pm
This team is done..no heart whatsoever and its now a mental thing
High-Tech Lynching
February 6th, 2012
9:20 pm
Why is Mr. Monica [Shannon Brown] buried on the bench? Is something wrong with him?
tb hawk fan i think
February 6th, 2012
9:20 pm
come on braves please
Crybaby Hawk Fans
February 6th, 2012
9:20 pm
Bet if this team was up 20 you guys would still find something to whine about or a player to bash…(And they wonder why NBA Stars overlook the SUCK ATL), glad I live in Florida LOL!!
Peter
February 6th, 2012
9:20 pm
Spyro,Jase
FIRE TEAGUE NOW!!
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
9:21 pm
I would gladly trade Kirk for Kenneth Faried straight up, let alone for Faried and Jordan Crawford.
Al Horford
February 6th, 2012
9:21 pm
I’m easily replacable right?! HOW BOUT THEM HAWKS?!
I thought Josh was going to breakout and be a leader?!?! Didn’t he lose a bunch of weight and show up early?????????????
LMAO
Bigman needed
February 6th, 2012
9:21 pm
Suns centers gortat: 14 pts & 13 rebs with 9 minutes left
Also nash did hateer he wanted to
ntrigue
February 6th, 2012
9:22 pm
Starters should play rest of qtr what is LD waiting for? Just dumb!
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:22 pm
Where’s Pargo?????????????????????????
doc said he was going down to Philips to watch this train wreck!
He should have left at halftime…
Lon Stotts
February 6th, 2012
9:22 pm
Peter
February 6th, 2012
9:20 pm
Spyro,Jase
FIRE TEAGUE NOW!!FIRE TEAGUE NOW!!FIRE TEAGUE NOW!!
Crybaby Hawk Fans
February 6th, 2012
9:22 pm
THE BRAVES LOL!!! Another CHOKE TEAM LOL!!
Spyro
February 6th, 2012
9:22 pm
@High-Tech Lynching
Shannon Brown is probably on the bench because he is terrible?
bigdave
February 6th, 2012
9:22 pm
“And Josh talked about the offense, which is true. but our last 3 home games (including tonight) have seen the opponent shoot over 51% from the field.”
a direct result of our “offense”.. these guys arent the bulls who regardless what the O is doing, the bread is buttered by D. totally different mindset. especially when a defensive player is talking bout offense.. smh.
coaching.
TGT
February 6th, 2012
9:22 pm
Return from one of their best road trips ever, to this???!!! WHAT AN EMBARRASSING DISPLAY!!! NO EXCUSE FOR SUCH A LAME A$$ EFFORT!!!—-3 GAMES IN A ROW!!!—-IT FEELS LIKE THE ORLANDO PLAYOFF SERIES FROM A COUPLE YEARS AGO!!!
Al Horford
February 6th, 2012
9:23 pm
Best team in Atlanta!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
9:23 pm
What do you know, someone drives inside against the zone and gets a layup.
keepinitreal
February 6th, 2012
9:23 pm
Wow, we suck. Even bad teams rarely get blown out in three straight games at home.
Lon Stotts
February 6th, 2012
9:23 pm
TEAGUE BY THE NUMBERS.
MIN PTS RB A F
25:31 6 1 0 3
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
9:23 pm
“Best team in Atlanta!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT”
Until the Falcons or Braves knock someone out of the playoffs, yes, they are.
Wabe
February 6th, 2012
9:24 pm
Spyro,
That’s some clown impersonating you whose infactuated and has a man-crush on Kirk Hinrich…
Anybody who mentions even a hint of bad bout that dude is bound to get his name jacked and impersonated.
Thus, with this post, I will go ahead and say, I’m probably bout to get my name jacked…
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
February 6th, 2012
9:25 pm
Lose 3 straight home games to non-elite teams after 4-1 road trip. What a bunch of heartless losers.
Only move our FO is considerinf is signing some scrub big to ten day deal.
LOL
Peter
February 6th, 2012
9:25 pm
Sad part is they have yet to win a single quarter in this game, and only scored 16 in the 3rd.
TGT
February 6th, 2012
9:25 pm
LEAVE THE STARTERS IN TO SUFFER THIS!!! (Where are the boos??!!)
Al Horford
February 6th, 2012
9:25 pm
HAHAHAHAHA!
Crybaby Hawk Fans
February 6th, 2012
9:25 pm
You mean that mighty Falcon offense that put up 2 pts in the playoffs, oh my bad, the defense got the 2 pts
Spyro
February 6th, 2012
9:25 pm
Thanks for the heads up, Wabe.
terrell
February 6th, 2012
9:25 pm
The Bad News Bears.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
9:25 pm
I don’t think Telfair shot this well even when he was at Lincoln High School.
bigdave
February 6th, 2012
9:26 pm
aight carrot top, you dont want it sir.
High-Tech Lynching
February 6th, 2012
9:26 pm
Telfair abusing Hinrich.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
February 6th, 2012
9:26 pm
Marvin 8 & 5 in 31 minutes.
Northcyde, those are superb numbers!!!!!
Spyro
February 6th, 2012
9:26 pm
Yeah, when Sebastian Telfair is making shots, you’re just not going to win.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:26 pm
Pacers by 35-40!
Crybaby Hawk Fans
February 6th, 2012
9:26 pm
On a serious note, Sund probably would make trades to better the team but Upper Mgmt just won’t budge and go over that luxury tax.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
February 6th, 2012
9:27 pm
Can we please suspend Marvin for sucking? Why is this guy still starting??????
terrell
February 6th, 2012
9:27 pm
Best team in Atlanta is the Dream.
High-Tech Lynching
February 6th, 2012
9:27 pm
Robin Lopez is wack.
Jase
February 6th, 2012
9:28 pm
MC I wonder what LD is going to say postgame!!!!
Sautee
February 6th, 2012
9:28 pm
Mrs. Sautee just asked: “when do you think they will win again?”
Ouch.
drmaryb.[*_*].
February 6th, 2012
9:29 pm
Lopez looks like he and Varejeo got left on Gilligan’s Island. For a decade. Cave Man scary.
Al Horford
February 6th, 2012
9:29 pm
Josh Smith is trash. It’s time the rest of you GED earners realized it!
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:29 pm
1.Dream
2.Hawks
3.Braves
4.Fa-cons are by far the worst……………in Atlanta,,,
High-Tech Lynching
February 6th, 2012
9:30 pm
terrell,
“Best team in Atlanta is the Dream.”
I’m with you on that. I wish the AJC would start up a[n Atlanta] Dream blog.
Spyro
February 6th, 2012
9:30 pm
For as much as LD has talked about 3rd quarter let-downs from the players, I hope he realizes that the 3rd quarter let-down in this one is all on him…
He probably won’t.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:30 pm
Sautee
February 6th, 2012
9:28 pm
“Mrs. Sautee just asked: “when do you think they will win again?”
Ouch.”
tell her sometime in March! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
terrell
February 6th, 2012
9:31 pm
LD is getting what he deserves for playing an out of shape Hinrich over a playing well Pargo. Clown! 8th seed at best. The “core” has peaked!
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
9:31 pm
Suns showing the Hawks how easy it is to attack a zone.
ntrigue
February 6th, 2012
9:31 pm
MC you have to ask Coach what’s up with his substitutions?
bigdave
February 6th, 2012
9:31 pm
Marvin doesnt have that move..
O'Brien
February 6th, 2012
9:31 pm
Why is Vlad still in the game?
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
9:31 pm
That is true. I forgot about the Dream.
1. Dream
2. Hawks
3. Falcons
4. Braves
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
February 6th, 2012
9:31 pm
Cosign terrell.
Hinrich is awful. Pargo was playing fine
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:32 pm
LD went smallball at about the 8min mark..He quit too……
Crybaby Hawk Fans
February 6th, 2012
9:32 pm
Well can’t blame Horford on this one, I remember hearing how we are such a better team with Al not playing?? Oh be ready because more BEATDOWNS to come, Pacers, Magic, Heat just to name a few.
ntrigue
February 6th, 2012
9:32 pm
1st time saying this Fire Coach Drew!
Bigman needed
February 6th, 2012
9:32 pm
High-Tech Lynching
February 6th, 2012
9:27 pm
Robin Lopez is wack.
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Huh? He’s a man among boys.
Sautee
February 6th, 2012
9:32 pm
I predicted 5-8 for Feb. and they are gonna have to pick it up or I’ll have do downgrade my prediction.
I thought I was shooting low, lol.
John Drew
February 6th, 2012
9:33 pm
Josh Smith is so concern about making the All star team. The Hawks need to make a change either at head coach, players or both. We don’t need Dwight Howard particularly, but we do need to acquire a collection of players with a high basketball IQ and fighting spirit. This team wasn’t assembled correctly. At this point I would break up this team and build it around Jeff Teague. Don’t kid yourself people this team won’t make it pass the first round of the playoffs. I would try to gain as many first round picks as possible.
bigdave
February 6th, 2012
9:33 pm
stack? 2 will cut it to 14.. what you doing??
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:33 pm
Finally see a Pargo sighting!
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
9:33 pm
After this game, the Hawks will be 3-4 with Kirk, 13-5 without him.
Wabe
February 6th, 2012
9:33 pm
Man Hinrich should be dealt ASAP.
It was obvious before he even returned that Pargo can be the guy that can spare Teague.
Move Hinrich.
Crybaby Hawk Fans
February 6th, 2012
9:33 pm
Like Brand Nubian used to rap back in the day “PUNKS JUMP UP TO GET BEATDOWN”
cybo
February 6th, 2012
9:34 pm
Didn’t pay my cable bill. Whats the score?
Donte
February 6th, 2012
9:34 pm
lol about half of the teams in the damn league make the playoffs in the NBA. Plenty of average and in the East’s case below average teams can make the playoffs. A slightly better than average to average team in the Hawks can look “good” as a 4 or 5 in the east. You cant compare making it to the playoffs in the NBA to making it in the NFL and MLB. The Falcons and Braves are chokers too, but still better than the Hawks.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
9:34 pm
Now LD will put the starters back in and they will blow it.
Leave the bench in Popovich style.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:35 pm
Kirk goes out and now they make a run? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
Bench Kirk………………Hes very rusty……
Crazy_88
February 6th, 2012
9:35 pm
LD is not a head coach in this league he’s just another over his head assistant coach who only got the job because Hawks management is too cheap or broke to seriously spend $$$ on a legitimate head coach. I’m sure LD is a nice guy but he doesn’t command the respect of his core players (Josh Smith, Joe Johnson)
At least Mike Woodson had the balls to call out his star players and didn’t care If they pouted on the bench. LD is like a bad parent who knows his child needs discipline but continues to do nothing to correct the behavior.
LD doesn’t have the coaching acumen to maximize this roster…Guys are lost and they don’t have any confidence in the offense schemes which is why you’re seeing all this ISO crap..guys don’t know when they are going to play or not play because LD doesn’t have a set rotation.
Again…dude subs players in and out like he’s playing 2k12…
Wabe
February 6th, 2012
9:35 pm
Watch Drew do the exact opposite of what should be done here…
Thinking we still have a shot, he’ll plug the starters back in, when they don’t deserve to be in there.
He better let the guys who cut into this lead close this thing out.
Spyro
February 6th, 2012
9:35 pm
Why are people still attacking Josh? Dude played fine tonight.
tb hawk fan i think
February 6th, 2012
9:35 pm
Dream could beat the hawks
Garbage
February 6th, 2012
9:35 pm
When Josh get traded, Hawks fans are gonna get mad and turn on their team just like Vick apologists did lmao
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
9:35 pm
A slightly better than average to average team like the Falcons can look “good” as a 5 seed too.
The only reason the disparity in playoff format comes into play is if a team makes it as a 7 or 8 seed, since 7 and 8 seeds don’t exist in the NFL.
THAD YOING & ALL US 76ERS
February 6th, 2012
9:36 pm
ITS A FINAL
76ERS 95 LAKERS 90 YEAH
Crybaby Hawk Fans
February 6th, 2012
9:36 pm
Man ATL sucks as a city and fanbase, just read 90% of these posts???!?!?!?!?!
ntrigue
February 6th, 2012
9:36 pm
The core is straight its the coach is everybody watching the same game I’m watching this Drews last year trust me!
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
9:36 pm
Josh is nowhere near as good or as popular as Vick. It’s not even close.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:36 pm
YOur QB gets shut out bt the 27th ranked f_______________king worst defense in the Playoffs???
Naw the Fal-cons are the worst by a mlie………….
Garbage
February 6th, 2012
9:37 pm
You idiots replaced an assistant (Woodson) with an assistant (Drew)!!!!
What a joke. City of LOSERS.
Sautee
February 6th, 2012
9:37 pm
Najeh,
Not defending Hinrich (you are right, he’s played too many minutes) but the schedule DID get tougher around his return (at San Antonio). But I’d have to say that the second unit seemed more cohesive without him.
O'Brien
February 6th, 2012
9:37 pm
Pargo needs more PT. Trade Kirk for a big
bigdave
February 6th, 2012
9:37 pm
pargo> Kirk
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
9:37 pm
IVAN JOHNSON
Wabe
February 6th, 2012
9:37 pm
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:37 pm
PARGO IS IMPRESSIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IVAN with da JAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Donte
February 6th, 2012
9:37 pm
Bench out performing the starters again? Even with 2 “all-stars” Josh and Joe?
bigdave
February 6th, 2012
9:37 pm
just bout my Ivan tee.
Crybaby Hawk Fans
February 6th, 2012
9:38 pm
gee, pargo is better than kirk
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
February 6th, 2012
9:38 pm
Since Joe and Pargo apparently live together, I wonder what they will talk a out in the ride home tonight.
“dude Kirk sucks. lemme talk to LD. I got you Pargs”
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:38 pm
Larry u suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
terrell
February 6th, 2012
9:38 pm
Yeah, Josh is pretty bad offensively. Just think, a sf(Marv) who can shoot free throws and that’s about it, a pf(Josh) with no offensive game whatsoever, and a center with no offensive game whatsoever(Al Zaza, Twin. Take your pick.). Getting blowed out should be expected. No??. lol. I mean seriously, we’re flawed as hell. Not to mention Uncle Larry’s dumba..
Donte
February 6th, 2012
9:38 pm
Hinrich out performing Pargo?
Wabe
February 6th, 2012
9:38 pm
This what you call heart…
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:38 pm
Larry sucks!
Kirk sucks!
THAD YOING & ALL US 76ERS
February 6th, 2012
9:38 pm
76ERS LAST 5 GAMES
1- ORLANDO WIN
2- BULLS WIN
3- MIAMI LOSS
4- AT ATLANTA WIN
5- LAKERS WIN
HOW YOU LIKE US NOW
Garbage
February 6th, 2012
9:38 pm
You losers are still crying about Vick HAHAHAHAHA he sh*t on your whole city and you still love him! HAHAHAHAHA
Ryan is trash, the Falcons are trash, and you’re all on welfare.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
February 6th, 2012
9:39 pm
Matt Freije, Cedric Bozeman, Thomas Garnder, Dan Dickau >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marvin Williams
Add swingman depth
February 6th, 2012
9:39 pm
We dont have enough 6-7 combo guards and that killed us tonight
JaeEvolution
February 6th, 2012
9:40 pm
Ivan has had more posters this year than Josh.
Crybaby Hawk Fans
February 6th, 2012
9:40 pm
Hawks are doomed since they traded Nique for Manning, one of the dumbest moves in sports history, gotta love da ATL,
AtlFlavor
February 6th, 2012
9:40 pm
Ivan the terrible. Lol …. That’s one scary dude!!
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:40 pm
Yeah Ryan sucks too..In the playoffs….
ntrigue
February 6th, 2012
9:40 pm
Pargo can at least attack hinrich can’t!
THAD YOING & ALL US 76ERS
February 6th, 2012
9:40 pm
NEXT UP SAN ANTONIO. BRING IT
O'Brien
February 6th, 2012
9:41 pm
Heat check lol
LT
February 6th, 2012
9:41 pm
The Replacements!!!!
Crybaby Hawk Fans
February 6th, 2012
9:41 pm
start coming here more and calling you guys HATL, (Haters of Atlanta)
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:41 pm
We need about 3 more Forwards…Not enough……Yawn…..
ntrigue
February 6th, 2012
9:41 pm
Mc also ask drew why pargo is not playing over hinrich?
phil
February 6th, 2012
9:42 pm
Sad.
Maybe the dumber here can give up now on the notion that we’re pretty good.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
9:42 pm
Pargo may or may not actually be better than Kirk, but he’s certainly no worse. At least not this year.
O'Brien
February 6th, 2012
9:42 pm
Kirk makes $8 mil. pargo makes $854K.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:42 pm
Up next 0-4!
LT
February 6th, 2012
9:42 pm
Oh, fire LD!!!!!!!
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
February 6th, 2012
9:42 pm
Like I said, we will probably win 2 games is month
tb hawk fan i think
February 6th, 2012
9:43 pm
boy dem hawks is bad
Spyro
February 6th, 2012
9:43 pm
So what you are saying is that we should have let Pargo keep playing while we waiting for Kirk to get into appropriate game shape? SHOCKING!
Lon Stotts
February 6th, 2012
9:43 pm
We cant trade teague and Al fast enough. They are like a cancer on this team. Thank goodness for Josh and JJ who once again were the leading scorers
We need to get rid of Al horford and Jeff Teague.
WHO EVER HEARD OF A POINT GUARD WITH 1 ASSIST AND 1 REBOUND
FIRE TEAGUE AND AL NOW!!!
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:43 pm
Left Kirk in they would have lost by 25…
O'Brien
February 6th, 2012
9:43 pm
Alright guys. What do you think LD will talk about in his post game with the media?
Energy? Defense? Effort? Offense? Something else?
LT
February 6th, 2012
9:43 pm
LD should be able to see how Hinrich messes up the flow of the 2nd unit (The Replacements)
Crazy_88
February 6th, 2012
9:43 pm
Absolutely embarrassing….Change starts with the coach…LD needs to take some ownership for why this team is struggling because he’s the one that is suppose to prepare this team to play against whoever.
I’m convinced that majority of the core players on this team really don’t have any confidence or respect for Larry Drew’s coaching ability…
Crybaby Hawk Fans
February 6th, 2012
9:43 pm
Magic bout to catch and pass dat A$$ in the standings, BELIEVE DAT!!!
Jase
February 6th, 2012
9:43 pm
Green need to start.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
9:44 pm
“Energy? Defense? Effort? Offense? Something else?”
Definitely not his highly idiotic substitution patterns.
Add swingman depth
February 6th, 2012
9:44 pm
This team is a 6-8 slasher type away from competing for the east! Good effort tonight!
tb hawk fan i think
February 6th, 2012
9:44 pm
je je why will they win 2
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:45 pm
LD quit at the 8min mark and his replacements started to make a run in spite of him….
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
9:45 pm
I guess the Magic should celebrate whatever they can, since they will be back in lotteryland a year from now.
Donte
February 6th, 2012
9:45 pm
If the NBA was like other major sports and didnt allow half of the teams to make the playoffs, then the only year during this “stretch of years as a playoff team” that they would have made it is the year they won over 50.
Crybaby Hawk Fans
February 6th, 2012
9:45 pm
Typical HATL fans, whine & complain no matter win or lose!!
Just Joe
February 6th, 2012
9:45 pm
LD’s catch phrase will again be “physicality”.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:46 pm
need 3 more 6 6 forwards……Got a shot at an ECF! LOL
cybo
February 6th, 2012
9:46 pm
The Curse of Dominique
Garbage
February 6th, 2012
9:46 pm
Why would anyone want to live in that dirty city of losers?
Vick the Herpes Passer is your hero, Melt is your QB, and your fans are trash. NO THANKS.
atlchris77
February 6th, 2012
9:46 pm
Najeh
Interesting point about our record with Kirk. I knew something seemed off the last few games. It reaffirms my earlier comment. LD is not a good enough coach for a contender. They looi outcoached. How do the owners not see it!
phil
February 6th, 2012
9:46 pm
Fire everyone!!
Bilbo Baggin
February 6th, 2012
9:47 pm
yea its time to get rid of this Al/teague virus thats going around. Teague will never be about to co ordinate an offense and Al will never play defense. His own coach says we are missing much with Al out. Just have to make minor adjustment. Its time to trade Al and teague to get a center who likes to play center.
FIRE TEAGUE NOW. !!!
Crybaby Hawk Fans
February 6th, 2012
9:47 pm
Magic & Hawks will both be in lotteryland, only thing is our ping pong ball will net us a better pick, you clowns will screw it up again and then whine & complain about how he sucks, but wait, thats what you clowns do now.
phil
February 6th, 2012
9:47 pm
Release someone!
BILLY KNIGHT
February 6th, 2012
9:47 pm
Man we need a center bad.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
9:47 pm
“If the NBA was like other major sports and didnt allow half of the teams to make the playoffs, then the only year during this “stretch of years as a playoff team” that they would have made it is the year they won over 50.”
No, they would have made it every year they were a top 6 seed, which is each of the last 3 years. The NFL lets 6 teams in from each conference. If the NBA switched to the NFL format, the Hawks would have still made it each of the last three years.
Al Horford
February 6th, 2012
9:48 pm
ANOTHER LOSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who’s fault is it now yo clowns?
All-Star Josh Nowitzki? What a joke.
Just Joe
February 6th, 2012
9:48 pm
It’s just has to be disheartening to be the smallest team in the league and know that your GM isn’t even bringing free agent centers in for workouts.
Hollywould
February 6th, 2012
9:48 pm
I told you 3 out of 4 losses this week but I thought they might have this game. Now it will be a shut out. No heart at all Hell let the GO team play/ at least they are happy to be playing. Oh yeah, I keep forgetting TIRED LEGS/ keep drinking the kool-aid Can’t wait to hear the post game comments Josh after last game was ” Just a 2 game losing streak” Let’s see how this plays out with some excuses. NO HEART!!!!
phil
February 6th, 2012
9:48 pm
Bring back Mike Fratello!!
Sautee
February 6th, 2012
9:48 pm
Out rebounded by 10, but we’ll stand pat and go with the bigs we have.
I hate to say this, but I hope they lose every game until Sund is FORCED to do something. Absurd.
High-Tech Lynching
February 6th, 2012
9:49 pm
This [Hawks] team needs Jamal [Crawford] and Al [Horford] in a big mutha freakin’ way.
Crybaby Hawk Fans
February 6th, 2012
9:49 pm
Whine & Complain about Marvin, Whine & Complain about Smith, about AL, about Joe, about Teague, about Kirk……Come to think of it you guys Whine & Complain about your STARTING 5, what other fanbase does that????
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
9:49 pm
It’s not so much Kirk’s fault as it is LD’s fault. LD should have eased Kirk back into the rotation instead of just handing him Pargo’s minutes. In fact he handed Kirk more minutes than Pargo by screwing up his substitution pattern to get Kirk in the game too early every game.
phil
February 6th, 2012
9:49 pm
Hire Bobby Knight!!
Bilbo Baggin
February 6th, 2012
9:49 pm
*Teague will never be able to co ordinate an offense and Al will never play defense. His own coach says **we arent missing much with Al out. Just have to make minor adjustment.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:50 pm
cut it to two then the Suns go on a 24-4 run is unacceptable!!!
Larry is clueless!
Play Pargo dude at the 1 for Teague not Kirk!!!!!!!!!!
BILLY KNIGHT
February 6th, 2012
9:50 pm
Rick Sund i respect you as GM but why have not drafted a center yet ?
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
9:50 pm
“Magic & Hawks will both be in lotteryland, only thing is our ping pong ball will net us a better pick, you clowns will screw it up again and then whine & complain about how he sucks, but wait, thats what you clowns do now.”
Still mad about losing to the Hawks in the first round?
Dwight is gone after this year and the Magic will be screwed again. Pretty sad when the Hawks have a brighter future than your team. Maybe Mickey Mouse can play center for y’all.
phil
February 6th, 2012
9:50 pm
Fire Crybaby Hawks Fans!!
Isaiah Rider
February 6th, 2012
9:51 pm
Dang- You folks were in love with the Hawks a week ago….funny how being an Atlanta fan ( pick a sport ) is so futile. Please find another hobby !! This is Loserville USA !
Spyro
February 6th, 2012
9:51 pm
Why won’t these so called “analysts” tear LD a new one? Bob, I love you as an announcer, but you just can’t blame this game on “energy.”
Sammy Davis Jr.
February 6th, 2012
9:51 pm
get rid of this bum Al horford and his hoe jeff teague.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:51 pm
Ld has lost 4 in a row after Indiana pounds his club on Wed night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Should lose by 20-30
phil
February 6th, 2012
9:52 pm
I don’t really see that bright future here, Najeh….i wish i did but…
Al Horford
February 6th, 2012
9:52 pm
“This [Hawks] team needs Jamal [Crawford] and Al [Horford] in a big mutha freakin’ way.”
They said it was my fault so I fake this injury to let them see how OVERRATED All-Star Josh Nowitzki really is. Can’t even win win at home! LMAO
Add swingman depth
February 6th, 2012
9:52 pm
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:46 pm
need 3 more 6 6 forwards……Got a shot at an ECF! LOL
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Yep should have signed at least ONE 6-7 guy to a 10 day contract to fill the void. We are SO thin at the forward position.
We got anyone in d league?
Mac-Town (#maconchevyrider)
February 6th, 2012
9:52 pm
Bob Rathbun “Lets get back to doing the things that made you a good ball club”
playing cellar dwellers??? Cant do that til after this month, Bob.
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
February 6th, 2012
9:52 pm
The Core is Crumbling
LT
February 6th, 2012
9:52 pm
“Alright guys. What do you think LD will talk about in his post game with the media?”
Something else… Somebody need to take responsibility for this lost!
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
9:52 pm
“I don’t really see that bright future here, Najeh….i wish i did but…”
Only said it was brighter than the Magic’s future.
O'Brien
February 6th, 2012
9:53 pm
As somebody else pointed out, Kirk came back when the schedule got tough (beginning with the Spurs game).
But he is not head and shoulders above Pargo right now. And we need a big. Seems obvious to me. However, is there a good trade out there for Kirk?
O'Brien
February 6th, 2012
9:53 pm
I think once again, LD will put this loss squarely on the players
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
9:53 pm
Meanwhile, LMAO @ JaVale McGee (may take a minute to load)
Rusty
February 6th, 2012
9:54 pm
Kurt hasn’t played on the first team in years, never will again but if he stays with LD he has a chance.
Crybaby Hawk Fans
February 6th, 2012
9:54 pm
Yeah you guys beat us last yr in the playoffs, no doubt, but OWNAGE is still on our side, whats the record for the most points beat down is a series??? Thinkin that was dem lil birdies that got embarrassed.
Al Horford
February 6th, 2012
9:54 pm
This guy is bragging about a first round series. The Magic have been to the Finals recently! Stay in your place LOL
DawgNole
February 6th, 2012
9:54 pm
Add swingman depth says “Good effort tonight!” This after the team loses by double digits at home to a team with a losing record.
Good effort?! Are you stupid?
ATL fans are absolutely astounding in their acceptance of mediocrity. Their attitudes of being satisfied with less than a championship for nearly a half-century have played a significant role in earning the city its label of “Losersville.”
Crazy_88
February 6th, 2012
9:54 pm
I think its time for LD to shake things up…..I think they should start Tracy at the 3 and let him play a ” point forward ” type of a role. The ball moves better when Tracy is involved in the offense, he’s the Hawks best playmaker but LD is playing him totally wrong. Jeff Teague is not a passer..neither is Joe & josh…
The Hawks need more easy buckets early on instead of tough jumpshots..
phil
February 6th, 2012
9:54 pm
Being an Atlanta fan really is an exercise in futility….
If not for Tom Glavine and Wohlers, thank the lord, having those great Game 6 efforts, I shudder to think how much worse it would feel.
It’s embarassing, sad and pathetic and yet, we keep coming back for more and more!
tb hawk fan i think
February 6th, 2012
9:54 pm
see yall at our next loss
Rusty
February 6th, 2012
9:54 pm
Larry don’t have a fling clue.
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
February 6th, 2012
9:55 pm
Who’s accountable for tonight’s loss? Who will man up and take responsibility? I know it won’t be Joe Johnson or Josh Smith.
Crybaby Hawk Fans
February 6th, 2012
9:55 pm
Magic have been to ECF in the brief history, HATL have been to how many, not counting in STL?
Sammy Davis Jr.
February 6th, 2012
9:55 pm
How do you analyze it when your ball hoggin point guard has 1 assist and 1 rebound ? What the fck is that ?
Crybaby Hawk Fans
February 6th, 2012
9:57 pm
Hawks have a bright future??? WHERE, HOW and most importantly WHO????
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:57 pm
LD says Runs RUNS RUNS?
Run away……………..
phil
February 6th, 2012
9:57 pm
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
9:52 pm
“I don’t really see that bright future here, Najeh….i wish i did but…”
Only said it was brighter than the Magic’s future.
********
true.
How is it a team like the 76ers, as awful as they’ve been, can suddenly be so good while we can never seem to pull it together like that in any sport?
Same with packers last year and giants this year. Cardinals in baseball.
It’s just maddening.
BIG DOG
February 6th, 2012
9:57 pm
MARVIN AND CAPTAIN KIRK WHOM EVERYBODY LOVE ARE SORRY.
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
Spyro
February 6th, 2012
9:58 pm
Yeah, either LD is dumb or just doesn’t want to publicly acknowledge his own short-comings.
Dept. Of Unintended Irony
February 6th, 2012
9:58 pm
“Kurt hasn’t played on the first team in years, never will again but if he stays with LD he has a chance.”
Ironically Kurt doesn’t play for the Hawks.
Kirk however, does, but sometimes he plays like he’s retarted (sic).
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:58 pm
PACERS BY 30 WED…BE THERE!
Michael Vick
February 6th, 2012
9:58 pm
I like men even more now!
phil
February 6th, 2012
9:58 pm
Tonight’s loss is on Tree Rollins….
The bum.
Carl
February 6th, 2012
9:59 pm
Look at England, look at Haiti
Look at Finland, look at The Congo
Look at the Lakers with Phil, look at them with Brown
Look at the Bulls with less talent and Coach Thibodeau and look at the Hawks with Drew.
Lets face it, they cant lead anything, always fail. Low IQ.
The Hawks need a white coach.
Hollywould
February 6th, 2012
9:59 pm
Crybaby, keep reaching/nobody cares about your team/ Pacers will destroy the Hawks;/listenin to LD now/ Basically saying that “We quit playing when they made a run” NO kiddin sherlock/ this team has NO HEART Bunch of atheletes who do not know how to play. Anybody can shoot/ not everybody can play… Candy Asses
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
9:59 pm
LD is on KIRK’S JOCK!!
BIG DOG
February 6th, 2012
10:00 pm
phil You wonder about the sports in Atlanta well continue to watch for another 20years.
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
Sautee
February 6th, 2012
10:00 pm
“Magic have been to ECF in the brief history”
Must make it hurt just that much more that Superman is leaving. LMFAO.
phil
February 6th, 2012
10:00 pm
Fire FG!!
Carl
February 6th, 2012
10:00 pm
Steve Nash, smartest player on the court tonight. Shocker?
Jase
February 6th, 2012
10:01 pm
Ld is clueless you get out rebound by 10 and say size is not a factor. Lol.
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
February 6th, 2012
10:01 pm
Its hard out here for a Hawks fan. Get our hopes up with a good road trip them come home and get ya a** whipped. Can blame the fans for tonights performance.
phil
February 6th, 2012
10:01 pm
Carl – racist by chance?
Spyro
February 6th, 2012
10:02 pm
@Carl: Actually, it might be Grant Hill, but please continue being a racist ass.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
10:02 pm
Hawks= 0-46 ECF’s visits .0000%
Crybaby Hawk Fans
February 6th, 2012
10:02 pm
Reaching, just stating facts, and funny part about it is all I have to do is read these blogs, man they are the most comical of most teams in all sports.
John Drew
February 6th, 2012
10:02 pm
The Hawks need to hire someone in their front office with a championship pedigree. This team and organization needs a general manager who can build a championship contender. We need to draft skill over athleticism. We need tough physical players with high basketball IQ. I would entertain trading Josh Smith, Marvin Williams, Joe Johnson and Al Horford at least two of the four. I absolutely hate this team chemistry, toughness and IQ.
Carl
February 6th, 2012
10:03 pm
Just a realist phil. Sometimes the truth isnt PC. Truth Hurts.
phil
February 6th, 2012
10:03 pm
NEVER get your hopes up in Atlanta!!
NEVER!
Melvin
February 6th, 2012
10:03 pm
at least the Magic lost tonight
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
10:03 pm
Sautee, it will take the Hawks going0-13 in Feb for Gearon to make a move…..Pathetic!
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
February 6th, 2012
10:04 pm
LD needs to send a message and shake up the starting lineup. If you ain’t playing hard you don’t deserve to start.
Crybaby Hawk Fans
February 6th, 2012
10:04 pm
Yeah it hurts to see Dwight leave but “It Is What It Is”, at least I got some moments to cheer and appreciate him in a Magic Uni, what moments do you guys have, beating us last year, is that it, oh yeah back in the 80’s with Bird vs Nique, so far in between.
Sautee
February 6th, 2012
10:04 pm
“all I have to do is read these blogs, man they are the most comical of most teams in all sports.”
Funnier than the Magic losing not one, but TWO superstar big men? Believe me that’s a lot funnier than these blogs. LMFAO
Harpie
February 6th, 2012
10:05 pm
Hey, Carl – aren’t you late for your KKK meeting?
Spyro
February 6th, 2012
10:05 pm
Crybaby has never been to a Lakers, Celtics, Bulls, or Knicks blog if he thinks ours is comical.
BIG DOG
February 6th, 2012
10:05 pm
Folks in Georgia still talking about Herschel Walkers after 32 years SMH.
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
High-Tech Lynching
February 6th, 2012
10:05 pm
With no Amar’e Stoudemire and Carmelo Anthony playing only 5:49 and tallying only 2pts., 1reb. and 1ast., the Knicks tune up the Jazz 99-88. Jeremy Lin has his first career start and scores 28pts. and dishes out 8asts.
Sautee
February 6th, 2012
10:05 pm
“Sautee, it will take the Hawks going0-13 in Feb for Gearon to make a move…..Pathetic!”
Whatever it takes, Slim.
THAD YOING & ALL US 76ERS
February 6th, 2012
10:06 pm
76ERS LAST 5 GAMES
1- ORLANDO WIN
2- BULLS WIN
3- MIAMI LOSS
4- AT ATLANTA WIN
5- LAKERS WIN
THATS 5-1 ROUGH STRETCH ALMOST OVER, NEXT SAN ANTIONIO
TRADE JOSH
February 6th, 2012
10:06 pm
PLEASE TRADE JOSH. Nothing but a worthless dunker. Get him out!
phil
February 6th, 2012
10:06 pm
The Hawks have never been worth a toot except in 1988 in Atlanta.
We could hire the Zen master and bring in the 2001 Lakers and I guarantee we lose in the conference finals 4-2….
We just don’t have IT.
But then, neither do most other cities.
Crybaby Hawk Fans
February 6th, 2012
10:06 pm
Sad thing is you guys are so blind to appreciate what you DO have, it wasn’t long ago this team won only 13 games or something like that, but hey, this is HATL, but if Jordan was on this team in his prime you guys would still Whine & Complain
AtlFlavor
February 6th, 2012
10:06 pm
No need for stress. Hawks will make playoffs and get booted in 1st round. Sund will give Drew the ax and Gearon will give Sund the ax. Hawks will use amnesty clause on JJ and trade Josh and Hinnie. Team will lose about 36 mil. Owners will default by mid August NBA will take ownership by training camp.
phil
February 6th, 2012
10:07 pm
Sign Shaq!!
LT
February 6th, 2012
10:07 pm
“Ld is clueless you get out rebound by 10 and say size is not a factor. Lol.”
Exactly!!!!
Fire LD!!!
Add swingman depth
February 6th, 2012
10:07 pm
Good work tonight. We just need to add a oouple guys that can work the wings, 6-6 swingmen on 10 day contract and we’ll right the ship.
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
February 6th, 2012
10:08 pm
Crybaby Hawk Fans you didn’t show up until I called Horford a Crybaby at the end of the last blog. Be original and quit jockin’ my style.
FIRE SUND
Carl
February 6th, 2012
10:08 pm
Harpie, I guess stating facts make me racist? I dont hate anyone.
Al Horford
February 6th, 2012
10:08 pm
Sitkc a fork in ‘em! They’re DONE!
Not my fault though!
phil
February 6th, 2012
10:08 pm
Jordan stunk….bum
LT
February 6th, 2012
10:09 pm
“No need for stress. Hawks will make playoffs and get booted in 1st round. Sund will give Drew the ax and Gearon will give Sund the ax. Hawks will use amnesty clause on JJ and trade Josh and Hinnie. Team will lose about 36 mil. Owners will default by mid August NBA will take ownership by training camp”
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
10:09 pm
THIS HOMESTAND IS A DISASTER SO FAR..IT WILL CONTINUE ON WED!
THAT WILL BE SURREAL..THE BEATDOWN THATS COMIN……
Carl
February 6th, 2012
10:09 pm
“Ld is clueless you get out rebound by 10 and say size is not a factor. Lol.”
Exactly!!!!
Fire LD!!!
____________________
Low IQ
phil
February 6th, 2012
10:10 pm
LD has a very small brain, like my cat.
Al Horford
February 6th, 2012
10:10 pm
I went to University of Florida, a great school and got my dgree.
Josh went to some joke high school in Georgia, some of the WORST test scores in the country. You surprised he’s too dumb to lead? LOL
BIG DOG
February 6th, 2012
10:11 pm
MARVIN WILLIAM 7YEARS OF FRUSTRATION
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
Crybaby Hawk Fans
February 6th, 2012
10:11 pm
Clyde
Reading these blogs it seems to me everyone is jockin each other’s style because 90% of you clowns say the same thing just phrase it differently, look at how many “FIRE” someone post are on here, look at how many bashings of your opening day starting 5. Yeah I’m jockin’, but so is everyone else. I’m just calling it like I see it, you cats Whine & Complain win or lose!!
High-Tech Lynching
February 6th, 2012
10:12 pm
@Carl
“Look at England, look at Haiti
Look at Finland, look at The Congo
Look at the Lakers with Phil, look at them with Brown
Look at the Bulls with less talent and Coach Thibodeau and look at the Hawks with Drew.
Lets face it, they cant lead anything, always fail. Low IQ.
The Hawks need a white coach.”
Man, you need “Kumbaya” moment. Sing it with me,
“Ebony and Ivory,
live together in perfect harmony,
side by side on my piano, keyboard, oh lord why don’t we….”
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
10:12 pm
GET TWO 6 6 AND ONE 6 5 1/2 FORWARDS AND THEY ARE GOING TO THE DANCE…..YAWN…
DONT FORGET THE 6 3 SMALL FORWARD….
MORE FORWARDS!!!!!
Carl
February 6th, 2012
10:12 pm
I went to University of Florida, a great school and got my dgree.
Josh went to some joke high school in Georgia, some of the WORST test scores in the country. You surprised he’s too dumb to lead? LOL
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What’s the demographics of Georgia? Third highest % of those people you say?
Carl
February 6th, 2012
10:13 pm
I guess it’s all coincidence
phil
February 6th, 2012
10:13 pm
Fire someone else!!
Spyro
February 6th, 2012
10:13 pm
No Crybaby, we probably “whine and complain” because we see the potential that our team has, but never see anything come to fruition. In 94, poised to meet with Houston in the Finals, we trade our star in Dominique for Danny Manning. Obviously, we get booted from the playoffs (as the #1 seed) in the 2nd round. We were able to survive for a while, but then mediocrity finally got its grips on the franchise. About 7-8 years ago, in desperate need of a PG and a C, we used all of our high draft picks on forwards. Now, still in desperate need of a C, our front office refuses to get one. We may complain in your perspective, but the team never drafted Dwight and Shaq, instead choosing Marvin, Shelden, and Childress over the likes of SEVERAL all-stars. That’s why we are mad that we have never won a championship. (like Orlando, BTW)
Crybaby Hawk Fans
February 6th, 2012
10:14 pm
If you guys can prove I’m lying about you guys Whining & Complaining then I will leave!!!
morehouse man
February 6th, 2012
10:14 pm
the hawks were in the until marvin was taken out;iso joe is killing the hawks now and since has come back,the hawks has gone south
DawgNole
February 6th, 2012
10:14 pm
There’s old “Add swingman depth” again–still praising the Hawks’ effort tonight.
What a dingbat.
Hollywould
February 6th, 2012
10:15 pm
Atlflavor, I almost spit out my drink. FUNNY one. I am walking back downstairs and I hear one of the announcers say ” We did’nt have a sense of urgencey” Let’s see how many time have I heard that” Wait a minute, HAWKS 360 just came on. Maybe Jurenevich can explain. The Hawks can’t. I am out NO FRIGGIN HEART
The core
February 6th, 2012
10:15 pm
Tonight the season ended. Mark my words, the hawks may not win before all star break looking at sched all winning teams
brian pleus
February 6th, 2012
10:15 pm
RICK SUND go sign Earl Baron right now!!!!!!!!!!!!! He was just waived by the g-state warriors. This guy is by far best available center with upside and cheap. He averaged a double double with the Knicks a couple years ago in seven starts. He is 7ft 250lb get him now!!!!!!
Al Horford
February 6th, 2012
10:15 pm
Carl
*shrugs shoulders* I’m not from here! LOL
John Drew
February 6th, 2012
10:15 pm
Carl you are absolutely correct about your Steve Nash comment. The game of basketball is so easy when you have a point guard with Steve Nash basketball IQ, and that’s what I’ve blogged about all night. People this is not about race, because if the Hawks had Steve Nash on their team, they win this game by twenty.
FACTS
February 6th, 2012
10:16 pm
Crybaby Hawk Fans,
This blog is full of people who type 2 essays worth of font in a post to make 1, sometimes 2, opinionated points, as if it means something.
Grandmaster JeJe (GM)
February 6th, 2012
10:16 pm
Steve Nash, at age 57, still owns us.
STOP STARTING MARVIN
phil
February 6th, 2012
10:16 pm
We aren’t whining and complaining.
Just disgruntled.
Al Horford
February 6th, 2012
10:16 pm
Blow it up! Get Dropout Josh off this team!
DawgNole
February 6th, 2012
10:17 pm
phil: “We could hire the Zen master and bring in the 2001 Lakers and I guarantee we lose in the conference finals 4-2….”
Actually, phil, we don’t even make it to the conference finals–even with Zen and the Lakers. Don’t forget, 40-plus years of NEVER making it past the second round.
David Duke
February 6th, 2012
10:17 pm
Carl,
Thanks for coming by the blog. As promised, keep it up and I’ll be sure you get a new hood.
phil
February 6th, 2012
10:18 pm
Bring back Hubie Brown!!
Carl
February 6th, 2012
10:18 pm
Regarding Josh Smith.
You can take the thug out of South Fulton/Clayton Co. but you cant…..well you know the rest.
LT
February 6th, 2012
10:19 pm
@Crybaby Hawk Fans
Are you on this blog often?? Because we are Hawk fans… we venting to each other about our frustrations. Even when we were on winnining streaks, you would have seen the same post. We have been saying, not saying, SCREAMING we need a BIG!!!!
Spyro
February 6th, 2012
10:19 pm
You know, Crybaby, it’s unfortunate the Magic have never won a title. At least Orlando has its other franchises to fall back on!
Oh wait…
High-Tech Lynching
February 6th, 2012
10:19 pm
Jamal Crawford starting at point guard for the Portland in place of the injured Raymond Felton. Crawford hasn’t started [an NBA] in over two years. OKC vs. Portland on NBA TV.
phil
February 6th, 2012
10:19 pm
I haven’t forgotten, dawgnole…i was trying to give us SOME credit if we had that roster.
phil
February 6th, 2012
10:21 pm
David Duke
February 6th, 2012
10:17 pm
Carl,
Thanks for coming by the blog. As promised, keep it up and I’ll be sure you get a new hood.
********
This is just wrong. But it is funny.
ntrigue
February 6th, 2012
10:21 pm
Coach Drew has to be replaced!….untimely substitutions killing us!
phil
February 6th, 2012
10:22 pm
I can’t stand Josh Smith. He really drives me nuts.
Carl
February 6th, 2012
10:22 pm
Watching Nash out there tonight was like watching a trainer at work before the big show at Seaworld or the Circus.
drebaby
February 6th, 2012
10:22 pm
The Hawks should be ashamed for making Hilary Swanks twin sister look like a stud tonight.The he/she is 38 years old.Not to mention Telfair looking like his cousin Starbury.When hes making long jumpers,u will lose every time.Atlanta teams are cursed,we have the worst luck.I guess our owners should join the Illuminati.
phil
February 6th, 2012
10:22 pm
Fire Bob Rathbun!
Hire Brent Musburger!!
DawgNole
February 6th, 2012
10:23 pm
Hey, no problem, phil; I just think you’re giving us way too much credit–based on the team’s miserable playoff history since moving to ATL in the 60s.
Crybaby Hawk Fans
February 6th, 2012
10:23 pm
Throw the insults but your correct, I can take it, yeah only 1 franchise to 3, but only the Braves can stake claim to anything, Falcons & Hawks may have well not even to exsist.
doc
February 6th, 2012
10:25 pm
slimj, trap game lost.
steve nash can still ball
we couldnt out physical the suns
we are falling fast and in front of home crowds is even worse
Crybaby Hawk Fans
February 6th, 2012
10:25 pm
Enter your comments here
Spyro
February 6th, 2012
10:25 pm
Throw the insults but your correct, I can take it, yeah only 1 franchise to 3, but only the Braves can stake claim to anything, Falcons & Hawks may have well not even to exsist.
If the English language were to be personified, it would have just face-palmed.
Crybaby Hawk Fans
February 6th, 2012
10:26 pm
I’m out ppl, its been fun, next time Hawks are winning I will log on just to see what is said.
FACTS
February 6th, 2012
10:26 pm
This type of stuff is why Atlanta is cursed
http://i.mediatakeout.com/photo/13284418768de5d02c9c.jpg
Rod from College Park
February 6th, 2012
10:26 pm
DON”T START MARVIN!!!!!!!!!!!
doc
February 6th, 2012
10:26 pm
it was not pretty at the phil tonight
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
10:27 pm
1-4 Friday night..They should beat up the Magic but it is a road game that Larry will try and screw up with his rotations
FACTS
February 6th, 2012
10:27 pm
That’s what 3 out 5 Hawks bloggers look like and condone.
Rusty
February 6th, 2012
10:27 pm
The stinger is either real stupid or is the biggest azz kisser of all time. It was hard listening to LT talking about how good KH played Nash
Crybaby Hawk Fans
February 6th, 2012
10:27 pm
Gee, we are all scholars on this blog I take it LOL!! Man you guys are alright LOL
FACTS
February 6th, 2012
10:28 pm
Las Vegas Hawks
2014
Rod from College Park
February 6th, 2012
10:29 pm
SInce Kirk has returned, less minutes for Willie Green, and no minutes for Pargo. Results=losses.
Spyro
February 6th, 2012
10:29 pm
@FACTS:
Fun fact:The Hawks are bonded to the city until at least 2028…
Prophet Eddie Long
February 6th, 2012
10:30 pm
For a small donation, I can lay my healing hands on this team and get them on a winning streak again, but only on the players under 30.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
10:30 pm
doc
February 6th, 2012
10:25 pm
“slimj, trap game lost.
steve nash can still ball
we couldnt out physical the suns
we are falling fast and in front of home crowds is even worse”
Yes doc, but you aint seen nothing yet. Wait till they meet up with the Pacers on this Wed!
Did you leave in the 3rd quarter or did you hang around till the end?
Sautee
February 6th, 2012
10:30 pm
doc,
Thanks again for the invite. Looks like I picked a good one to miss. I told Slim, that as much as I hate to say it, I hope the Hawks lose every game until Sund is forced to act.
I said 5-8 for Feb. but even that is looking dim. Oh well, at least we know that these guys always play better when we give up on them. Well, usually, not always, lol.
BIG DOG
February 6th, 2012
10:31 pm
FACTS just nasty bro
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
John Drew
February 6th, 2012
10:32 pm
I would love for Bobby Knight to coach the Hawks.
Al Horford
February 6th, 2012
10:32 pm
What’s the excuse now, chumps?!
FACTS
February 6th, 2012
10:33 pm
At Home With Marvin Williams SUCKS ASS
BIG DOG
February 6th, 2012
10:34 pm
Spyro Hawks are here until 2028, thats to late 2012 is here end times bro.
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
drebaby
February 6th, 2012
10:36 pm
Facts if you want to post facts,dont use mediatakeout as a source.They are just as bogus as the elite media,Atlanta teams are cursed,because we are a predominately black city.The Elite ILLUMANATI funded NBA dont want black cities to have winning teams.Thats a fact.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
10:38 pm
Wow Facts ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Nasty!
BIG DOG
February 6th, 2012
10:38 pm
WOW thats deep drebaby.
BIG DOG IN THE HOUSE
John Drew
February 6th, 2012
10:39 pm
@drebaby. Why the race card bro?
The core
February 6th, 2012
10:41 pm
Enter your comments here
Glenn Beck
February 6th, 2012
10:42 pm
drebaby,
Good job on the illuminati thing. But you need to use the word “conspiracy” in every post if you really want to stir things up. Read my book. Keep up the good work.
Add swingman depth
February 6th, 2012
10:42 pm
Josh childress KILLED us tonight! We should never have let this guy go! Chill has never lost to us
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
10:42 pm
NewsFlash: The pale skinned and dark skinned Elites will be in for a big surprise when they cross over and meet with their maker..They will answer for their crimes for sure……
John Drew
February 6th, 2012
10:44 pm
I thought that this was a basketball blog.
Add swingman depth
February 6th, 2012
10:45 pm
Espn reports ramon sessions is on trade block for a draft pick. Let’s get him! Go hawks!
The REAL Problem
February 6th, 2012
10:45 pm
The value of Meruelo’s original deal to buy the team was estimated by sports-business experts in August at $300 million-plus Ð an amount based largely on the debt he was to assume or pay off.
Based on prior reports or court records, those debts included the approximately $120 million the Hawks borrowed last year from the NBA’s league-wide credit facility and the $40 million-plus owed to Turner Broadcasting/Time Warner, which financed part of its 2004 sale of the Hawks and Thrashers to Atlanta Spirit.
The debt to the NBA credit facility would transfer with the franchise to a new owner, while the debt to Turner/Time Warner, backed by Levenson and Peskowitz, likely would have to be paid off or renegotiated by a new owner.
Also, the Hawks remain responsible for debt payments on bonds that paid for the construction of Philips Arena. The $124 million left on those bonds was refinanced in August 2010, with the Spirit pledging Hawks and arena revenues, up to the maximum annual lease payment, as collateral.
In addition, the $300 million-plus price included the value of the minority stake that, under terms of the August agreement, was to be retained by Atlanta Spirit.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
10:46 pm
“I thought that this was a basketball blog.”
Gets old talkin bout these meltdowns sorta like them Fal-con meltdowns…..Yawn…..
drebaby
February 6th, 2012
10:47 pm
I agree Slimjr and thanks Glenn Beck,are you that radio host that comes on on the morning,or am i tripping.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
10:48 pm
All that Debt? Shoot no wonder why the score board is broke….
John Drew
February 6th, 2012
10:48 pm
Why would the Hawks give up a draft pick for another guard? Hell we already have too many of them right now lol.
Glenn Beck
February 6th, 2012
10:49 pm
I am a morning radio host, and yes, you are tripping. But so are the Illuminati.
drebaby
February 6th, 2012
10:49 pm
@ John Drew i am a sis not a bro and i don’t play the race card,i just state facts as i see them .
David Duke
February 6th, 2012
10:52 pm
“i don’t play the race card,i just state facts as i see them .”
Excellent, just like Carl.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
10:52 pm
Glen Beck’s he got more sense than all of those so called radio personalities combined!
including Rush Limbug….pun intended!
Build around Hinrich
February 6th, 2012
10:53 pm
One thing is clear, the hawks need to build around kirk. Hawks never given him the supporting cast. Get rid of everyone and start over with capn kirk please
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
10:53 pm
NEED MORE GUARDS AND FORWARDS!!!
drebaby
February 6th, 2012
10:54 pm
Lol Glenn Beck,i like your show,keep up the good work,and f the Illuminati.I will check out your book,i am doing lots of research on that type of stuff.
Sautee
February 6th, 2012
10:54 pm
Build Around Hinrich is the funniest post of the night. ROFL.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 6th, 2012
10:57 pm
New blog up for the Hawks fans. For the racists, you seem to be a little lost. The Falcons Blog is here.
Slimjr
February 6th, 2012
10:59 pm
drebaby, get this book called ” The Creature From Jekyll Island”..It will help in your research!
The rabbit hole goes real deep…….
drebaby
February 6th, 2012
11:03 pm
Thanks Slim Jr,and Najeh i am not a racist,i am just feed up with injustices,and i happen to love the hawks,been a fan since 86.
John Drew
February 6th, 2012
11:06 pm
@drebaby I’m sorry about that sis, but the bottom line is, the Hawks core players ceiling is the second round playoff exit, because they don’t have a player who can post up and give the team easy baskets, when they need it. So when you make statements about all these non-factors, the facts are this team isn’t that good. That’s all I’m trying to say.
drmaryb.[*_*].
February 6th, 2012
11:08 pm
OFFENCE?
“what has gone wrong with our offence?”
-tb hawk fan i think-
___________
I guess this guy kicked Rosetta Stone to the curb and went to Pictionary School instead.
I imagine what’s wrong with our “off-ence” is, someone sat it on top “of (a) fence” and left it there. Like my Grandma always said, “If you see a turtle sitting on a fence … You know someone had to put it there.”
Maybe, “Your Baby Can Read” but can it spell without those flash cards?
LT
February 6th, 2012
11:11 pm
“Build Around Hinrich is the funniest post of the night. ROFL”
YES!!! Very funny!!!
yodaddybrother
February 6th, 2012
11:14 pm
Didn’t see the game tonight but looks like they put up anohter clunker.
The silver lining to this is that the team could tank it (as we all hope they will) and get a higher draft pick. Fire Larry Drew and bring in a coach that is not depressing every time he talks and knows what he’s doing. A Coach with some pedigree.
Draft a young SF/Power Forward (like Anthony Davis). Let Hinrich come off the books, look to trade at least one of the three Horford/Smith/Marvin and then Amnesty Joe Johnson. Trade Zaza. Resign T-Mac for one final year.
Teague, JJ, draft pick, Josh Smith, Free Agent Center/draft pick from trade/player from trade/ Ivan Johnson.
The fact is that the team has to be broken up. Can’t even beat the Suns at home. No pride, no heart. Al Horford and Joe Johnson for Dwight Howard rental. If he doesn’t sign long term….let him come off the books and have money available in free agency to get someone. If you can’t get anyone hold on to the money until next year.
John Drew
February 6th, 2012
11:20 pm
@yodaddybrother well said and I agree with you 100%.
drebaby
February 6th, 2012
11:29 pm
I agree John Drew,the hawks could use a player like yourself.What happened to Larry Drew’s motion offense?