Atlanta Hawks: Sixers 98, Hawks 87

  • No doubt the Hawks’ vulnerability in the middle was on display again (especially since the perimeter D was shaky, too). Spencer Hawes found the perfect opponent for his return from an Achilles injury, Nicola Vucevic and Thaddeus Young got theirs and Philly’s guards found lots of space in which to operate once they made it past the first level–all they had to do was account for Josh Smith from there.
  • But if the Hawks had taken care of the ball and taken better shots (or made more open ones) they still would have had a chance to beat a quality opponent in spite of all of that. Instead, they got sloppy with the ball and loose with their shot selection in the second quarter and the Sixers were off and running to 37 points.
  • The Hawks, meanwhile, spent a lot of time in Iso and looking to officials for help. “Against physical teams, we have a tendency to allow that to affect us,” Larry Drew said. “We have to move past that. We are a veteran team now.”
  • Weird, then, that rookie Ivan Johnson was the best thing they had going during their best spurts of the game. What Ivan lacks in height and experience he makes up for in sheer tenaciousness. He’s always attacking the glass, always moving on defense, always looking to get to the basket. “I told them in my first interview that’s what I bring every game and that’s what I’m going to keep doing,” Ivan said.
  • Ivan split time with Zaza Pachulia and was the more effective center of the two despite giving up a lot of height. He was, as always, not impressed with himself. “It’s not too much of a challenge,” Ivan said of playing center. “It’s just another person. I think I’m physical and strong enough to hold it down.”
  • As bad as things look for the Hawks with just one true center they’d be a lot worse without Ivan (and it feels really weird to say that about an obscure 27-year old rookie). Drew replaced Zaza with Ivan to begin the second half and Ivan gave the Hawks a lift same as he did in the first.
  • “When he’s in the game, you know he’s in the game,” Drew said. “He throws his body around. He’s on the offensive glass, he gets to the basket. We just have to go with energy guys when we need energy. He’s one of the high-energy guys on our team. If he keeps providing what he’s been doing he’s going to be playing more minutes.”
  • Zaza usually is a high-energy guy, too, but he looked out of sorts tonight. He didn’t give much int he way of boards or drawing fouls, which is where he makes his mark. Even Vladimir Radmanovic offered more than Zaza in those areas.
  • Andre Iguodola made things tough again for Joe Johnson, who kept trying to go right at him instead of letting the offense flow. Joe didn’t make many of the open shots he did manage.
  • Jeff Teague snapped out his slumber in the fourth quarter, when he had 10 points on six shots and two assists against no turnovers. Josh got to the line in the fourth quarter, too, but a dude named Lavoy Allen gave him a bit of trouble.
  • Marvin Williams was solid in 20 minutes (eight points on five shots, four rebounds) but stayed on the bench in the fourth quarter as Vlad Rad didn’t leave the court.
  • Tracy McGrady can’t find his shot–it seems they’ve been short a lot–but still makes plays and rebounds. Kirk Hinrich couldn’t make shots, either, and looked a step slow against Philly’s quick guards.
  • Don’t get it twisted: The Sixers are a good team. “Tonight was one of those games where somebody was going to lose two in a row and it wasn’t going to be us,” Louis Williams said.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

179 comments Add your comment

Najeh Davenpoop

February 4th, 2012
11:04 pm

If everyone else on the Hawks cut to the basket as often as Ivan, the Hawks’ offense would be so much more consistent.

GET A DAMN BIG MAN SUND

HawkZ

February 4th, 2012
11:04 pm

FIRST SONNY~!~!~!~! GOOOOOO HAWKZ SIC EM PRRRRRRRRR

Slimjr

February 4th, 2012
11:04 pm

2nd!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Slimjr

February 4th, 2012
11:05 pm

The melt down has apparently begun..So sad Hawks fans……

Slimjr

February 4th, 2012
11:06 pm

Larry Drew for COY?

Not in this timeline! Maybe the adjacent one? LOL!

Slimjr

February 4th, 2012
11:07 pm

Up next Phoenix by 17…..

MattP

February 4th, 2012
11:07 pm

“When he’s in the game, you know he’s in the game,” Drew said

Funny thing is, Drew did not know he was in the game. He only played 25 minutes on a great night for him. He should have had 35+ minutes because he was not into foul trouble. No matter how old they are, Drew refuses to play rookies.

Slimjr

February 4th, 2012
11:08 pm

Larry aint got a clue….

Slimjr

February 4th, 2012
11:11 pm

Down 3 bigs and Gearon’s puppet is shopping for another 6′8″ forward……Wow…

Hmmm

February 4th, 2012
11:13 pm

SO LARRY, DID THEY QUIT?

Slimjr

February 4th, 2012
11:14 pm

Will Josh Childress contest against Marvin? That should be an entertaining match up..Two stiffs going at it..Both being Hawk lottery picks……..!@#$%^&*

Hmmm

February 4th, 2012
11:15 pm

“Weird, then, that rookie Ivan Johnson was the best thing they had going during their best spurts of the game. What Ivan lacks in height and experience he makes up for in sheer tenaciousness. He’s always attacking the glass, always moving on defense, always looking to get to the basket. “I told them in my first interview that’s what I bring every game and that’s what I’m going to keep doing,” Ivan said. …”

I KNOW EVERYTHING I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT YOU IVAN, YOU DID YOUR JOB. IT’S THE REST OF THESE CLOWNS I WANT ANSWERS FROM.

Draft history

February 4th, 2012
11:17 pm

Ok city also have bigman problem. Kendrick perkins and ibaka is just giving up too much size and talent to pau and bynum

Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde

February 4th, 2012
11:19 pm

I told yall we should have signed Sean Williams when we had a chance

Hmmm

February 4th, 2012
11:19 pm

““Tonight was one of those games where somebody was going to lose two in a row and it wasn’t going to be us,” Louis Williams said. …”

DAMN, LOU GAVE THE OPEN HAND SLAP TO THESE DUDES.

SIXERS HAVE A NEVER SAY DIE ATTITUDE, HAWKS HAVE THE 20 FOOT JUMPSHOT, GIVE UP IN THE 3RD QUARTER ATTITUDE.

Slimjr

February 4th, 2012
11:22 pm

this ship in trouble now..

Hmmm

February 4th, 2012
11:22 pm

“Ok city also have bigman problem. Kendrick perkins and ibaka is just giving up too much size and talent to pau and bynum”

I TRIED TO TELL THESE PEOPLE THAT. NAME THE LAST TIME A TEAM WON THE WEST WITHOUT A DOMINANT BIG. THE 92 BLAZERS?

Slimjr

February 4th, 2012
11:25 pm

Guess December-January was just a mirage?

doc

February 4th, 2012
11:26 pm

who are we kidding are we making excuses for this team? collins is not a legit big in this league but a anchor only. he would not have had any effect on the game and less f an impact ivan had. werent the sixers withoout their own important big guy in elton? we just got beat by a team playing better basketball forcing us to throw up shots from the outside hoping they would go in. sometimes we resemble the magic without the ig guy to suck up all the misses or defend the rim.

slinj said 6-7 possibly 4-9 if things went sour and it depends on how much orlando pulls together as pros.

that also brings up that it could be ugly if the magic and dwight are in a contentious mood when the all star game gets there. could be embarassing if they decide to air out their disgust and boo the big boy.

our guys are not acting like all stars here lately especially josh. he might have cost himself a chance the way he has played the last ten days to make the squad.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 4th, 2012
11:27 pm

Billy Knight drafted Marvin over CP3 and Salim Stoudamire over Lou Williams IN THE SAME DRAFT.

doc

February 4th, 2012
11:28 pm

osh smith, the man without a j was alive and well tonight was he not?

UGA

February 4th, 2012
11:29 pm

People, Marvin has helped win games this season. He should have played more tonight AND been more assertive.

To get a big, they are going to have to look at trading Hinrich and/or Smoove. Josh Smith is simply not good on offense.

Slimjr

February 4th, 2012
11:30 pm

Billy Knight= Self proclaimed “Basketball Expert” !@#$%^&*()

Rev in Tampa

February 4th, 2012
11:31 pm

“We just have to give more,” Hawks coach Larry Drew said. “We have to do more. We have to have more commitment.”

Larry, this routine is getting old. Makes me wish that Stan Van Gundy was the coach. At least we’d get some comments that actually make MC’s interviews necessary. If MC is not allowed to make a road trip again he can just make something up depending on if the Hawks win or lose.

Hmmm

February 4th, 2012
11:31 pm

OH YEAH WHAT DID I TELL YALL ABOUT THE UTAH JAZZ? JUST BEAT THE LAKERS. TY CORBIN MIGHT HURT SOME FEELINGS COME PLAYOFF TIME. CAN SUND TRADE DREW FOR HIM? LOL

STRETCH

February 4th, 2012
11:32 pm

Iguadua had 8 points and they still won by 11? These guys have clocked out. And they quit cause they know thay the front office is not going to get them any help.

These guys have been asking for help for 4 years now, and they have been getting screwed over every year. thanks to management they will get knocked out in the second round again this year!

Rev in Tampa

February 4th, 2012
11:33 pm

“We just have to give more,” Hawks coach Larry Drew said. “We have to do more. We have to have more commitment.”

This is not from the blog but from the AJC article.

Hollywould

February 4th, 2012
11:33 pm

No leaders on this team. Got no one with some energy. JJ sucks the wind out of them. Sick of it!!

Slimjr

February 4th, 2012
11:33 pm

Larry you need to do more: QUIT!

Hmmm

February 4th, 2012
11:35 pm

“Marvin has helped win games this season. He should have… been more assertive.”

YOU TRYING TO SQUEEZE BLOOD OUT OF A ROCK. IT AIN’T HAPPENING. MARVIN ISN’T A TOUGH PLAYER AND CAN’T GO STRONG LIKE THAT. THE HAWKS PROBLEM IS THEY NEED A GUY LIKE IGUODALA ON THE WING WH OWILL GIVE 110% EFFORT ON DEFENSE EVERY NIGHT BECAUSE THAT ENERGY WILL CARRY OVER. BUT NO THEY’RE STUCK WITH JOSH TRYING TO FIND HIS 3-PT STROKE LOL

Buddy Grizzard

February 4th, 2012
11:35 pm

Salim Stoudamire over Lou Williams AND Monta Ellis in the same draft.

Slimjr

February 4th, 2012
11:35 pm

Read between the Line with Larry’s words:

“we have to have more commitment” interpretation, I have lost this team….

Slimjr

February 4th, 2012
11:38 pm

The Hawks could get knocked out of the first rd?

Hollywould

February 4th, 2012
11:40 pm

Joe Johnson acts like he would rather being doing anything but playing ball. Yeah, he can play but he is such a downer it makes me sick!!! 20 friggin mill for a downer

Najeh Davenpoop

February 4th, 2012
11:41 pm

Oh yeah, damn, forgot that Monta Ellis was in that same draft.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 4th, 2012
11:42 pm

This, of course, one year after picking Josh Childress instead of Andre Iguodala.

Hollywould

February 4th, 2012
11:42 pm

Yeah, Johnson avgd. 30 against the lighweights. Last 2 games where did he go? Oh, I know it is tired legs

Najeh Davenpoop

February 4th, 2012
11:42 pm

Paul-Johnson-Iguodala-Smith-(insert any halfway decent center here)

Sh-t, that lineup might get to the ECF with Zaza at center.

Hmmm

February 4th, 2012
11:44 pm

““It’s nothing but a two-game skid,” Smith said. “You are going to have little losing streaks like this, but it’s what you make out of it.” …”

LOSER’S MENTALITY. CAN YOU IMAGINE DERRICK ROSE SAYING SOME CRAP LIKE THIS AFTER GETTING SLAPPED IN BACK TO BACK GAMES AT HOME? THIS TEAM NEEDS A CULTURE CHANGEIN THE WORST WAY.

Hmmm

February 4th, 2012
11:49 pm

WHEN THE PACERS BEAT THE BULLS A FEW DAYS AGO, ROSE SAID HE WON’T FORGET IT AND ACTED LIKE IT WAS PERSONAL LOL WTF THAT’S THE KIND OF LEADER YOU WANT. NOT “UMMM WELL IT’S JUST ANOTHER LOSS”

ATTENTION JOSH AND JOE, THAT AIN’T THE WAY TO GET THE FANS BUYING UP TICKETS. OH I FORGOT JOE DOESN’T CARE IF WE SHOW UP LOL

Najeh Davenpoop

February 4th, 2012
11:51 pm

Interviews with Ivan are hilarious.

Draft history

February 4th, 2012
11:54 pm

Root of the problem. We never draft bigs and miss on what we draft:

E2011 2 48 Keith Benson Oakland University
2009 1 17 Jeff Teague Wake Forest University
2007 1 3 Al Horford University of Florida
2007 1 11 Acie Law Texas A&M University
2006 2 33 Solomon Jones University of South Florida
2006 1 5 Shelden Williams Duke University
2005 1 2 Marvin Williams University of North Carolina
2005 2 31 Salim Stoudamire University of Arizona
2005 2 59 Cenk Akyol
2004 1 6 Josh Childress Stanford University
2004 2 42 Viktor Sanikidze
2004 2 37 Royal Ivey University of Texas at Austin
2004 2 34 Donta Smith Southeastern Illinois College
2004 1 17 Josh Smith
2003 1 21 Boris Diaw
2003 2 37 Travis Hansen Brigham Young University
2002 2 36 David Andersen
2001 1 3 Pau Gasol
2001 2 33 Terence Morris University of Maryland
2000 1 6 DerMarr Johnson University of Cincinnati
2000 2 57 Scoonie Penn Ohio State University
2000 2 40 Hanno Möttölä University of Utah
1999 1 17 Cal Bowdler Old Dominion University
1999 1 27 Jumaine Jones University of Georgia
1999 1 10 Jason Terry University of Arizona
1999 1 20 Dion Glover Georgia Institute of Technology
1998 2 49 Cory Carr Texas Tech University
1998 1 20 Roshown McLeod Duke University
1997 2 50 Chris Crawford Marquette University
1997 2 49 Alain Digbeu
1997 1 22 Ed Gray University of California
1996 1 28 Priest Lauderdale Central State University
1995 2 42 Donnie Boyce University of Colorado
1995 2 45 Troy Brown Providence College
1995 1 16 Alan Henderson Indiana University
1995 2 57 Cuonzo Martin Purdue University
1994 2 34 Gaylon Nickerson Northwestern Oklahoma State University
1993 2 40 Rich Manning University of Washington
1993 1 15 Doug Edwards Florida State University
1992 2 38 Elmer Bennett University of Notre Dame
1992 1 10 Adam Keefe Stanford University
1991 1 15 Anthony Avent Seton Hall University
1991 2 30 Rodney Monroe North Carolina State University
1991 1 9 Stacey Augmon University of Nevada, Las Vegas
1990 2 41 Steve Bardo University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
1990 1 10 Rumeal Robinson University of Michigan
1990 2 36 Trevor Wilson University of California, Los Angeles
1989 2 49 Haywoode Workman Oral Roberts University

Rusty

February 4th, 2012
11:57 pm

Sorry team,stupid coach

doc

February 4th, 2012
11:59 pm

denver looking bad tonight at portland.

Draft history

February 4th, 2012
11:59 pm

You have to go back to 1996 to find the hawks taking a flier on a 7 footer and kepping that player ( so not pau in 01)

Phx START 2 legit 7 footers ( gortat and frye) and bring another serviceable’7 footer off the bench (lopez). On paper the hawks cannot win the game

Hmmm

February 5th, 2012
12:02 am

IT’S NOT ALWAYS THE BIG YOU DRAFT. THE RIGHT COACH WWILL PUT THE WORST PLAYERS IN A POSITION TO SUCCEED AND GET THE MOST OUT OF THEM. PROBLEM IS, THE HAWKS HAVEN’T HAD A DECENT COACH SINCE LENNY WILKENS. AND THAT’S THE TRUTH RUTH LOL

Najeh Davenpoop

February 5th, 2012
12:02 am

“denver looking bad tonight at portland.”

Portland is 13/29 from 3 point land tonight. They are a totally different team at home. That NBA TV game the Hawks play at Portland in a couple of weeks is not going to be easy.

Draft history

February 5th, 2012
12:03 am

Note: adam keefe 10th overalll over spreewell, horry, pj brown

Draft history

February 5th, 2012
12:07 am

Note: trading pau gasol for raheem. Set the franchise back 10 years but just follows the company philosophy of shunning anyone 7 feet and over

Draft history

February 5th, 2012
12:19 am

Note: childress (stanford again like keefe) over al jefferson, biedrins, varejao, luol deng, iguodala.

Never pass on a nice guy from stanford