Hawks meet with rep for Kenyon Martin
The Hawks met Thursday with a representative for center Kenyon Martin, according to a person with knowledge of the team’s thinking.
Martin, 34, averaged 8.6 points and 6.2 rebounds in 48 games for the Nuggets last season. The 11-year veteran signed a one-year deal to play in China with Xinjiang during the NBA lockout last summer. He is eligible to return to the NBA following the Chinese season in several weeks.
Martin has reportedly been offered a contract by the Heat. ESPN recently reported that he is also interested in signing with the Clippers, Spurs and Knicks, along with the Hawks and Heat.
Martin could make a decision by the end of the week. According to reports FIBA has cleared Martin, allowing him to sign with an NBA team.
The Hawks have used a combination of Zaza Pachulia, Jason Collins and Ivan Johnson at center since the loss of Al Horford last month to a torn pectoral muscle. While the Hawks are 9-2 in the 11 games without Horford, teams with dominant big men can present problems. Martin (6-foot-9, 240) could help in that regard.
The Hawks could probably only offer Martin the veteran minimum in salary. They do offer a team that has made the playoffs the past four seasons, including three straight trips to the Eastern Conference semifinals. They are currently tied for third in the conference behind the Bulls and Sixers.
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Adil
February 2nd, 2012
2:31 pm
firstttttttttttttttttttttttttt
CONservative Johnson
February 2nd, 2012
2:31 pm
Good news. I remember asking about him a while back . . .
Najeh Davenpoop
February 2nd, 2012
2:32 pm
K-Mart is a good player, but he is not going to solve the Hawks’ depth problems at center.
They need to be bringing in Rasheed Wallace and Joel Przybilla for workouts.
Chico1
February 2nd, 2012
2:32 pm
Sign him!!! First!!!
Terrance
February 2nd, 2012
2:33 pm
While he would be an welcomed addition, I would prefer a center with length who can defend and rebound.
mike
February 2nd, 2012
2:37 pm
I believe (from what I’ve read) that the Clippers can offer him the most money. I think the Hawks can give him the most playing time however. If he needs money, look for him to head to LA
CONservative Johnson
February 2nd, 2012
2:37 pm
I’d prefer Michael Jordan in his prime. We gotta take what we can get. How do we know these other bums can play any meaningful minutes? At least K-Mart has played more recently; and at a much higher level than Joel Przybilla . . .
LT
February 2nd, 2012
2:41 pm
He is not BIG enough!!!!
lil Neek
February 2nd, 2012
2:41 pm
if he couldn’t hack it in China, how is he gonna do us any good here in the NBA? besides we tried to sign him years ago and he turned us down then, I doubt he would jump at the chance to play for the Hawks now.
Najah Poopenport
February 2nd, 2012
2:46 pm
If anyone has a choice, welp that means the #Hawks are out.
tophawk1
February 2nd, 2012
2:51 pm
With the team we have….Atlanta can still beat the pathetic Heat. The best team in the league is the Clippers.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 2nd, 2012
2:52 pm
This Wojnarowski tweet makes K-Mart to the Hawks sound much more likely.
Melvin
February 2nd, 2012
2:55 pm
I would take K-Mart but I would prefer and player with more size like Rasheed.
strick
February 2nd, 2012
2:56 pm
Woj tweet says martin is “intrigued w/ significant role he could play w/ hawks”.
strick
February 2nd, 2012
2:59 pm
if he chose the hawks over the heat and the clips, then I think it shows that although the national media may not give us our due, that the actual players see the Hawks as legit players in the East and in the NBA.
tckr83
February 2nd, 2012
3:00 pm
I was against this, but Martin would: add another veteran, add depth, be productive and be on his best behavior as this would be his last chance in the league should he mess it up. Why not with Horford out for a long time and a contract that would be one of the smallest on the team to boot.
Slimjr
February 2nd, 2012
3:03 pm
K Martin= an aged Josh 2.0= redundant!
rollow lawson
February 2nd, 2012
3:04 pm
Rick Sund sees what us true fans see as well. After last night, it is evident that the Eastern Conference is up for grabs. With Martin and the return of Horford, we would match up well against Chicago and Miami. Hell, we should be 4-0 against those clowns already. Pull the trigger on Martin or Rasheed. Do something!!
strick
February 2nd, 2012
3:04 pm
Marc Stein from ESPN tweeted that he has heard that teams in the west have the edge on Martin becuase role/minutes is most important to him, and that there are so many good 4’s in the west.
If he is interested in role and minutes, then Atlanta seems like it would be at the top of his list. Even when/if Horford comes back he will have an extensive role with the Hawks.
Slimjr
February 2nd, 2012
3:04 pm
Wow another 6′8″ interchangeable forward…Hey Billy K., the Hawks wont give up on your failed blue print…huh? lol!
Slimjr
February 2nd, 2012
3:07 pm
Lets sign 5 6′8″ forwards as our starting 5 and win the whole enchilada!!!! LMAO!
Section 303
February 2nd, 2012
3:07 pm
I would love this addition. Not only would Martin help, but would make the national talking heads look stupid. I’ve seen none of them even mention the Hawks as a contender for Martin’s services. Would further prove my point that most of the national writers/talking heads know jack sh#t about any innerworkings of the NBA. Just talk and speculation.
i_am_soulstar
February 2nd, 2012
3:09 pm
We’ve been getting away with murder by facing teams who don’t bang as much. We’re gonna need another banger, even if it’s a power forward playing center. Zaza and Collins won’t cut it in the playoffs. I hope to God that Al comes back before the end of the regular season, but bring on K-Mart!
Slimjr
February 2nd, 2012
3:10 pm
His jumper maybe a slight improvement over Josh but his d is less than Josh…..Huh?
strick
February 2nd, 2012
3:10 pm
isnt our length on the perimeter one of our strengths defensivley?
Section 303
February 2nd, 2012
3:11 pm
I agree with Najeh, though….I would rather have Pryzbilla, if he is healthy. But, Martin can play. Brings more toughness to the team.
My only question is….do we need Martin. We already have Ivan Johnson. He is proving to be pretty good. And, he does basically the samething Martin would. Would bringing in Martin kill Ivan’s minutes?
I would rather have Martin, than not. But, give me Pryzbilla (a healthy Pryzbilla) first.
Slimjr
February 2nd, 2012
3:12 pm
C’mon Sund let go of BK’s blue print man! This guy is not big enough Sir!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tckr83
February 2nd, 2012
3:13 pm
It doesn’t matter his size, it’s about being productive… he’s big enough until Horford gets back and then it’s more depth. I’d venture to guess that Martin would be more productive than Joel Pryzbilla (always injured) or Rasheed Wallace (who isn’t exactly known to be under the basket). One guy can still jump out of the gym, the other two you can barely slip a penny underneath their vertical… Martin listed at 6′9″ 240lbs, Wallace at 6′11″ 235lbs and Pryzbilla at 7′1″ 240lbs… not a deal breaker IMO in a league that has very few good centers anymore.
strick
February 2nd, 2012
3:14 pm
i just feel like Pryzbilla will get hurt.
PMC
February 2nd, 2012
3:16 pm
Really? The Knicks huh…. good luck with that.
PMC
February 2nd, 2012
3:16 pm
Personally, I like Ivan.
strick
February 2nd, 2012
3:17 pm
“They are currently third in the conference behind the Bulls and Heat”
This is not true actually. The Hawks are third behind Chicago and Philly (Same record, win tiebreaker over Hawks). The Hawks are third followed by Miami who is fourth (Same record, Hawks win tiebreaker).
Section 303
February 2nd, 2012
3:17 pm
Slimjr, not sure I understand your points on Martin. Are you saying he is better than Josh? Or, the same player as Josh? Or, did somebody post something saying Martin is better than Josh and you are mocking it?
I have been one of Josh’s biggest critics. But, there is no way Martin is in Josh’s league. Josh Smith has been playing like an All Star (not counting the Detroit game on Friday). Martin is not at that level.
Slimjr
February 2nd, 2012
3:19 pm
Im saying we dont need another FORWARD…We need a BIG….
Slimjr
February 2nd, 2012
3:20 pm
Rim changer, a banger, a rebounder….
Section 303
February 2nd, 2012
3:20 pm
By the way…am I the only one excited about this stretch of upcoming home games? Memphis tonight, Philly Saturday, the Suns Monday, and Indy Wednesday….those are some great, not good, great f’ing games!
Let’s get a roll call…who will be in Philips tonight? Gotta start getting crowds. I’m not talking about packed to the rafters. Just a solid crowd that is into the game. Not holding my breath that happens, but will hope.
Section 303
February 2nd, 2012
3:21 pm
Slimjr, got it. And, I sort of agree. I think Martin would help. Hawks should not get into the luxary tax over Kenyon Martin. But, if he can be had at a decent price, go get him.
Slimjr
February 2nd, 2012
3:22 pm
We need a DeAndre Jordan type in the middle!
strick
February 2nd, 2012
3:23 pm
slim, DeAndre Jordan’s dont just grow on trees! for what is avaliable (Martin, Pryzbilla, Rasheed), Martin is the best player in that group.
Just Joe
February 2nd, 2012
3:24 pm
Slimjr…now you know a “DeAndre Jordan type” is not available.
tckr83
February 2nd, 2012
3:24 pm
Kenyon Martin over his career averages more rebounds a game than either rasheed wallace or joel pryzbilla. You get the best player available at this point in the season for the playoffs, the Hawks will make the playoffs and right now… beggars can’t be choosers.
tckr83
February 2nd, 2012
3:27 pm
Kenyon Martin playing in China means he’s in game shape… the other two have barely played at all over the past two-three seasons. Martin will be ready, the other two hopefully hopefully be in game shape BY the playoffs…
strick
February 2nd, 2012
3:28 pm
rasheed and pryzbilla are washed up…….martin still has something left in the tank and can contribute to this team a la TMAC.
not to mention the toughness and attitude he will bring to the team. The only person I have ever seen stand up to anybody on this team is ZAZA unless you count Josh and Boozer’s little scuffle in the playoffs. lol
Marcus
February 2nd, 2012
3:28 pm
‘12 Boss = ‘95 Rod Woodson …. see you in the finals!
Rob
February 2nd, 2012
3:28 pm
I could see Kenyon as the first off the bench for Zaza. A motiviated Kenyon Martin with an increased role would be a plus and added toughness to boot. Add Ivan off the bench and you got some tough MF’s out there for the Hawks.
ILL-Logical
February 2nd, 2012
3:29 pm
“center Kenyon Martin”
Nice try but no cigar. K-mart is not a center nor has he ever had significant time at the position during his profesional career. Additionally, he is 6′8′; it pains me to say this but I don’t believe that this proposed move is a valid exercise in building on the current momentum of the team and improving their chances to build for the future.
strick
February 2nd, 2012
3:30 pm
Rob,
I agree which IMO has been one of the problems with previous Hawks teams. a little to finesse. Zaza, Ivan, and Martin off the bench would change that.
Rob
February 2nd, 2012
3:30 pm
I do not think Hawks are interested in Joel or Rasheed, they could have been had already, I hope they can get Kenyon in here for a minimum salary deal.
strick
February 2nd, 2012
3:32 pm
for a half a year rental, i think it is worth the risk. you are not blowing up the core, and also getting a player that could really help you in a wide open Eastern Conference. Not to mention if he actually chooses to come here, that will keep him away from other teams in the East as well.
Joe Piskepo
February 2nd, 2012
3:34 pm
What really intrigues Martin is the atl lifestyle……….come on what kind of man walks around with lips tattooed on his neck.
kwooden
February 2nd, 2012
3:36 pm
I would take Martin over Pryz or Wallace for sure. Martin can still play and is in shape. He just made a slight mistake by signing with the Chinese club, thinking the NBA would be out of business for the year. Since most of the stuff I read says Kaman is an impossibility for us right now, I would definitely take Martin. If he’s our second center, the bench will just have to play a lot faster.
Slimjr
February 2nd, 2012
3:40 pm
Magic City would treat him like a King….
Hmmm
February 2nd, 2012
3:41 pm
DO IT, SUND. THIS TEAM CAN ALWAYS USE MORE TOUGHNES AND MORE GOONS. LIKE KG SAID THE PLAYOFFS ARE A BAR FIGHT LOL.
tckr83
February 2nd, 2012
3:42 pm
You don’t have to be a big guy to get rebounds… ask Chuck Hayes. It’s about positioning and I don’t think, check that… i know that k-mart has ever been one to shy away from contact. Who even said the Hawks would play him against opponents centers? Martin would be another matchup luxury for when an opponent employs a smaller lineup. Even if he was against a body that resembles an nba “center”, it would only be for a minute or two here or there.
Hmmm
February 2nd, 2012
3:43 pm
“Magic City would treat him like a King….”
ROLL OUT THE RED CARPET FOR HIM LOL
Section 303
February 2nd, 2012
3:43 pm
Guys, do yourself a favor and read this article I linked below. Grantland, which is Bill Simmons’ website, has been running “The Ivan Johnson Chronicles”. The one linked is the 3rd installment. An interview with Ivan. The things he says about his mother are touching, to say the least. Check it out…
http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/15724/ivan-johnson-on-ivan-johnson
Slimjr
February 2nd, 2012
3:47 pm
Chuck Hayes has great Basketball IQ, instincts, and a very strong base! Thats why hes so effective at 6′6″..
He’s special….
Rob
February 2nd, 2012
3:48 pm
Nice piece on Ivan Section 303, I think its funny when Bob Rathbun and Nique call him 9 to 5 because its true. On the Kenyon thing, it isnt about height, cuz if it was Collins would be beastin with the boards. Lets get some toughness in here to go along with Ivan.
Slimjr
February 2nd, 2012
3:49 pm
Magic City would probably bus in some Girls from south Beach for the King to make it rain….lol
Hmmm
February 2nd, 2012
3:49 pm
TO THOSE OF YOU WHO OPPOSE THIS MOVE, ASK YOURSELF WHO ARE THE EAST POWER FORWARDS THAT K-MART WILL GO AGAINST
BOOZER?
BOSH?
FADING KG?
HANSBROUGH?
BRAND?
RYAN ANDERSON?
SO UMMM WHICH OF THOSE DUDES IS GONNA INTIMIDATE K-MART?
Blodus
February 2nd, 2012
3:51 pm
Trade Marvin for Kaman you stupid GM
Slimjr
February 2nd, 2012
3:51 pm
Kaman,Kaman Kaman
leedsatlanta
February 2nd, 2012
3:52 pm
If the Hawks had 5 players with hearts as big as Ivan’s, they would be world champions!
Grandad
February 2nd, 2012
3:52 pm
Anyone who comes in;
needs to understand;
the Hawks are 16 & 6 as they stand.
Message to newcomer:
the Hawks are not calling in the Cavalry.
Neither are they calling in the Calvary.
The Team needs neither a Horse Soldier nor a Savior !
The Hawks need only a gifted Player who will ‘`mesh`’ with his Team !
tckr83
February 2nd, 2012
3:54 pm
If the Hornets traded Kaman for Marvin… I doubt Sound would be the one everyone is calling stupid, that would be the GM of the Hornets new title. Salaries don’t match anyway.
DS
February 2nd, 2012
3:55 pm
Slimjr are you SLB?
Rob
February 2nd, 2012
3:55 pm
Slimjr, I agree that Kaman would be a great addition. I just do not know if we could when we trade Marvin unless Joe slides to small forward and starting Kirk at the 2. but im sure we would have to give up Kirk in the same trade.
Blodus
February 2nd, 2012
3:58 pm
Marvin, Jason Collins, + 2nd round pick. Hawks don’t know how to utilize their 2nd round picks, so it wont matter.
C: Kaman
PF: Josh
SF: Joe
SG: Kirk
G: Jeff
a complete line up. Good offense and defense at every position.
Hmmm
February 2nd, 2012
3:59 pm
NO WHAT THE HAWKS NEED IS A MENTALITY TO PUSH BACK WHEN ANOTHER PLAYOFF TEAM TRIES TO PUSH THEM. SO FAR I SEE TWO CURRENT PLAYERS WHO AIN’T PUTTIN’ UP WITH THE BS — ZAZA AND IVAN. EVERYBODY ELSE IS EITHER QUESTIONABLE OR UNTESTED. ADD KMART AND YOU’RE DAMN NEAR THE 90s KNICKS. ALL WE’D NEED IS FOR DREW TO INSTITUTE A NO PLAYUP RULE LIKE RILEY LOL
strick
February 2nd, 2012
4:00 pm
would Kaman stay healthy? giving away Marvin or kirk for a player with past health concerns, isnt something that interests me.
Melvin
February 2nd, 2012
4:00 pm
If K-Mart leaves ATL today without signing a contract or at least a verbal committment then we can hang it up. He’s next return to ATL will be with another team jersey on.
Hmmm
February 2nd, 2012
4:01 pm
OH AND STACKHOUSE. HE’S CERTIFIED TOO. LOL
Blodus
February 2nd, 2012
4:03 pm
If this team gets kicked out of first round, then its rebuilding time all over. They have no cap space to do anything major.
Ra'mon
February 2nd, 2012
4:03 pm
Anyone who says adding K’Mart to the roster for the veteran’s minimum isn’t a good idea, is seriously on something good. Right now at the moment, Vlad is the backup PF to Josh, because Ivan is backing up Zaza. If Vlad comes in, and his shot isn’t falling, you have no one else to goto to get rebounds or defend the post. Kenyon Martin only averaged 6.2 rebounds last season because his minutes dropped by 9 minutes compared to the season before when he averaged 9.4 rebounds. So if K’Mart is able to come in the game and give 6-7 rebounds in a reserve role every game, that will be huge. And this move is even more about the playoffs. In the playoffs, you now have Josh, Al, Zaza, K’Mart, Ivan, and Vlad to add the most depth the Hawks have had since the 80s, to go along with the most depth in the back court the Hawks have had since the 80s as well.
New Birth
February 2nd, 2012
4:04 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTA7ARNx8xs
This is what will bring Martin to ATL
tckr83
February 2nd, 2012
4:04 pm
What are the Hornets going to do with Ariza and the young Al-Farouq Aminu (a top 10 pick) that they’re trying to develop if Marvin comes in?
The Hawks don’t have the pieces to trade for Kaman without blowing up a portion of the team if not more than that. Half of the Hawks team isn’t even tradable until some time in March as they were just signed before the season started. The Hawks would have to trade other players (starters) as New Orleans just doesn’t need a small forward.
Rufus1
February 2nd, 2012
4:06 pm
PPL who want to trade Marvin, need to remember…
The East is about BIG, PHYSICAL wing players…Granger, Iggy, Deng, Wade and Lebron. If you don’t want your MAIN scoring option(Joe) to have to guard them every night…We need to keep Marvin, because I don’t think Green or Pargo can Handle them.
Blodus
February 2nd, 2012
4:06 pm
They can than trade Marvin to another team for draft picks if they dont need him.
tony
February 2nd, 2012
4:09 pm
Where did JJ found that killer instinct? The guy has been playing like a superstar of late. Keep it JJ…..I might become a fan of yours if you keep playing that way. Tough challenge tonight. Bring K.Martin to GA Sund.
honest_abe
February 2nd, 2012
4:10 pm
anbody else going to be at the game tonight? watch the hawks get wicked on the grizz.
tckr83
February 2nd, 2012
4:10 pm
It’s not that easy… they’ve been shopping marvin for years. No bites with his contract.
Ra'mon
February 2nd, 2012
4:11 pm
You guys know its funny though. Seven seasons ago, K’Mart, T Mac, Stack, and Collins would’ve won a title if they all played on the same team, lol.
Stack = Iguodala.
strick
February 2nd, 2012
4:12 pm
if the Hawks do not advance further in the playoffs then sure dumping Marvin, Josh, Al, or Joe to rebuild is totally justfied, but If you trade Marvin this year i nthe middle of the season for a washed up injury prone big man, it will be a huge mistake.
I like the makeup of this current team, with Al we are legit contenders, Adding a big would be great and help make this team even better but not at the expense of giving up players that have helped u get out to this great start
Rob
February 2nd, 2012
4:18 pm
I agree that you dont blow up the team unless the team fails in the playoffs again, ala la getting pushed out in 1st round, 2nd round withoutt taking it to 7 games or winning it. I think if the Hawks go 7 in the 2nd round, they will still blow the team up, or at least make “core” changing trades. I just dont want it to be another Isiah Rider Jim Jackson kind of trade.
Ken Strickland
February 2nd, 2012
4:30 pm
Rasheed Wallace was too lazy to get into gm shape when he was active with the Celtics. That’s why, as bad as they need frontline size and depth, they won’t give him a 2nd thought. Why would anyone think he’s in any kind of gm shape now? He certainly wouldn’t be in good enough shape to help anyone with this schedule, which is why he’s still LOOKING FOR A HOME. Can anyone give a reason why no team has bothered to offer Pryzbilla a contract at this point in the season?
As difficult as it might be for some of you to believe, the Hawks aren’t the only NBA team in need of Big man help/depth. So there has to be a reason for there unwillingness to offer RWallace or JPryzbilla a contract.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 2nd, 2012
4:31 pm
I have some sad news. The most reliable sports streaming site on the Internet, firstrow dot tv, has been shut down by the feds.
For those of you who live out of the area and stream Hawks games — or stream anything else — you can still use chanfeed dot com, lshunter dot tv, or forum dot wiziwig dot eu.
Jewish King of Israel, Eddie Long
February 2nd, 2012
4:33 pm
I hope we can contain Gasol
Crazy_88
February 2nd, 2012
4:36 pm
My gut feeling is that he’s going to the Clippers…all for the following reasons:
1. $$$$
2. They are a legit contender in the West.
3. He will play significant minutes backing up Blake Griffin
4. Chris Paul ( Big men love playing with him and he makes them look soooo good)
5. Chauncey Billups ( good friends and referrals go a long way these days it seems)
6. He owns a house in L.A.
7. Hollywood ( The Clippers are the hottest ticket in L.A.)
The Hawks can offer him a significant role backing up Josh Smith but that’s it…
doc
February 2nd, 2012
4:38 pm
glad to see someone made it back from puppy heaven to real professional ball talk than trying to pizz on little yeller jackets. dont know who is more psychotic tech or dog fans after visiting the schultz blog on the tech signing day they dont rival vol fans though. i had to live amidst them for 10 years. that is the only unattractive thing in east tn. only thing missing were fear the dear and phiily fan.
yup 303, been talking this game up on the blog for days, in fact the whole home stand. should be good. wish more folks were going, well, until i try to get a parking space or to it for that matter, wings at taco mac or a heiny inside.
doc
February 2nd, 2012
4:42 pm
yeah honest ill be there with myson, buy you a beer?
Ken Strickland
February 2nd, 2012
4:43 pm
I think it would be a gross mistake to think we need to break up our core and start rebuilding after the season. Our core is still young, considering the amount of experience they have, especially playoff experience. How long do you really thing it would take to rebuild a team with the individual talent of a PF like JSmith, an Allstar center like AHorford, and a 5 time Allstar like JJ. There’s nothing wrong with this team that another functional DEF minded center couldn’t fix.
Think of how much better the Celtics would be this yr if they still had Big Baby and the starting center GM Danny Ainge traded away.
honest_abe
February 2nd, 2012
4:43 pm
doc: sometimes i can’t resist. i have a lot of tech friends and we have the same arguments a million times a year. fun times.
if you see/more like hear a loud obnoxious korean guy that’s me… don’t forget to say whats up.
honest_abe
February 2nd, 2012
4:44 pm
not sure where i’m sitting sis got my tickets but me and buddy will be there.. i’d be down to grab a beer.
Slimjr
February 2nd, 2012
4:47 pm
Keep voting in these same Clowns and soon they will be telling you when to take a piss and pick your big azz hairy nose!
Kross24
February 2nd, 2012
4:49 pm
Forget K-mart. Let’s see if we can get Vitaly Potapenko, Vin Baker, or George Muresan in this b word
Slimjr
February 2nd, 2012
4:51 pm
DS, SLB is in a class all by himself! But nice try…..
Buddy Grizzard
February 2nd, 2012
4:51 pm
“They need to be bringing in Rasheed Wallace and Joel Przybilla for workouts.” – Najeh
Przybilla’s agent has already said he will choose between the Heat and Bulls. The Hawks are not in the running for Przybilla:
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-02-01/sports/chi-bulls-remain-in-mix-for-przybilla-20120201_1_twitter-kcjhoop-veteran-big-man-joel-przybilla
“Zaza and Collins won’t cut it in the playoffs.” – i_am_soulstar
Zaza is in the top 10 in playoff rebounding rate in two of the last three postseasons. That’s all players at all positions. Only 5 players have made the top 10 in two out of the last three postseasons. Zaza Pachulia is one of them.
On the other hand, given that Dwight can now face the basket and finish with either hand, I no longer think Jason Collins has a role on an NBA team, playoffs or otherwise.
“…his d is less than Josh” – Slimjr
Come on Slimjr… you can say the same thing about more than 90% of the league.
“Would bringing in Martin kill Ivan’s minutes?” – Section 303
It would decrease them, but more importantly it would help Ivan’s development by allowing him to get back to being a natural combo forward. He’s not a center, and playing him out of position at center is hurting his development.
“I don’t believe that this proposed move is a valid exercise in building on the current momentum” – ILL-Logical
Disagree. Yes, K-Mart is undersized for a center. But keep in mind we’re not asking him to be our starting center. We already have Zaza as our starting center. We recently watched him completely outplay Andrew Bogut, who is considered one of the top centers in the league. Watch how he plays tonight against Marc Gasol, also considered one of the top centers in the league.
But who would you rather have playing backup center… Kenyon Martin who can still rebound, or Jason Collins who can’t move his feet fast enough to box anybody out or jump high enough to outrebound a 6-0 point guard?
Rod from College Park
February 2nd, 2012
4:51 pm
strick,
“would Kaman stay healthy? giving away Marvin or kirk for a player with past health concerns, isnt something that interests me.”
You do realize that Marvin and Kirk are both coming off of offseason surgery, and can’t stay healthy either. Try another reason.
Slimjr
February 2nd, 2012
4:52 pm
K-mart’s got a better shot with the Clippers…He aint comin……
LT
February 2nd, 2012
4:55 pm
I will be in Philips tonight!
O'Brien
February 2nd, 2012
4:56 pm
Would Kenyon Martin help the Hawks? Definitely. And I would be thrilled to get K-Mart. However, he would help us as a backup PF (behind Josh), allowing us to play Vlad at backup SF.
But the fact is the Hawks biggest weakness is not backup PF. It is backup Center. We need a center. So if K-Mart means no backup center, then I would pass.
And for those mentioning Pryz, it is being reported he will choose between the Heat and the Bulls. So say what you want about media heads, but even players (who have a choice) are picking the Heat and Bulls (although knowing Rick, he probably didnt even call Pryz).
DS
February 2nd, 2012
5:03 pm
Missing some SLB
Admiral Ackbar
February 2nd, 2012
5:05 pm
http://wagesofwins.com/2012/01/30/the-hawks-are-still-soaring-thanks-to-some-amazing-wings/
Rufus1
February 2nd, 2012
5:07 pm
I will take Benson or the best BIG in the D-league.
Slimjr
February 2nd, 2012
5:07 pm
“But the fact is the Hawks biggest weakness is not backup PF. It is backup Center. We need a center. So if K-Mart means no backup center, then I would pass.”
O’Brien…..Bingo Fuel! Bingo Fuel! Bingo Fuel…RTB(Return to Base)
He’s using the Hawks as leverage..He aint coming here…..So no worry…..
Najeh Davenpoop
February 2nd, 2012
5:08 pm
Can’t decide whether I should click that link or not… who knows, it could be a trap.
doc
February 2nd, 2012
5:13 pm
be close to the pretzel area on marta side that serves heineken and bud lite, i guess, if that suits you at half time. if you want newcastle we have to move a little. ill be there with my son. i’m 6′3 or so, white stach and goatee, son bearded a little shorter.
Slimjr
February 2nd, 2012
5:13 pm
I already blew up my desktop last week…Sucks…Goodluck! LOL….
Thank goodness I got back up machines….
Wyatt Earp
February 2nd, 2012
5:14 pm
Gee, just what the hawks need, another low budget powerforward masquerading as a center averaging 9-12 pts an 7-9 rebounds. Another Al horford. Fck Hawks management just isnt serious about winning. I guess, Im Just shaking my head. What A waste…..
Slimjr
February 2nd, 2012
5:16 pm
Hey doc thinking about buying those height extenders and walk into work at about 6′7″…LOL!
tckr83
February 2nd, 2012
5:16 pm
What else do you want them to do? Trade starters? Who are you going to trade and for what center? *A realistic trade that both teams would actually do*
There aren’t any unless you want to blow up a team that could realistically win the East this year… get the best available.
Grandad
February 2nd, 2012
5:17 pm
doc
I had to live amongst those orange clad southern wannabes
for 17 years.
You do realize those folks from north of our border;
don’t even serve grits for breakfast.
With apologies to northcyde, who also lives in River City.
I spent most of yesterday in “puppy heaven” ;;;
and yes I am back.
Not that you were talkin’ about me.
Later tonight I will wax nostalgic as did you last eve:
Rich Yunkus was my 1st college basketball exemplar.
Alas, I was neither left handed, nor did I grow to 6-9,
and thankfully was never a Techie.
[instead I became a a Peayon]
- pun intended -
Wyatt Earp
February 2nd, 2012
5:21 pm
“But the fact is the Hawks biggest weakness is not backup PF. It is backup Center. We need a center.”
The hawks biggest problem is not a back up center. Zaza does that just fine. Our biggest problem is a STARTING CENTER. 12pts 9 rebounds 1blk and 1blk against is not going to get you out of the second round. We got tons of power forwards. We got tons of guys who can give you 10 -15 minutes at the center post. but we have 0 (zero) guys who will man the low post, defend the rim and enforce lane control full time. As ive been saying the last 3 years HAWKS NEED A CENTER NOT NAME AL HORFORD if you expect to get out of the second round.
Insanity is repeating the same thing over and over and over and over, expecting a fcking different result.
You know the drill.
Slimjr
February 2nd, 2012
5:23 pm
All NBA playoff avg= 9.7pts and 7.4 rb, not enough from an ALLSTAR…..
tckr83
February 2nd, 2012
5:23 pm
How many centers are better than al horford?
Not many… I really can’t count that as a “problem”. Everybody wants a dwight howard on their team when he’s not whining, but there is only one of him to go around.
Troll Patrol
February 2nd, 2012
5:24 pm
Troll alert
Admiral Ackbar = grandad
tckr83 =grandad
DS = grandad
FreshmakerGT
February 2nd, 2012
5:27 pm
And Wyatt Earp = idiot
ya boy JC
February 2nd, 2012
5:30 pm
Quite frankly, I don’t think we really need to change this roster. Errrrbody say we need a bigger center, but what series has it cost us?!?! we got past the dominant big man D12!! people complain bout AL stats for blocks but u dont always have to get a block just alternate the shot!! ALSO, if u really look at the past playoffs our MAIN problem is having an stagnant offense and the team checking which is pretty much the cause of the losses this year….. #imjustsaying if our team play consistent at a high lvl in the playoffs the sky is the LIMIT!!!
CrαZy
February 2nd, 2012
5:31 pm
Who gets cut if this happens??
ya boy JC
February 2nd, 2012
5:31 pm
*team checking out early
Chris Vivlamore
February 2nd, 2012
5:32 pm
Thanks for catching the standings error! I have corrected.
ntrigue
February 2nd, 2012
5:34 pm
Yall are just looking at his height he has a center wingspan and is tough and would be the most athletic big man we have behind Josh. He also adds another shot blocker to the team what we definitly need now! He is the perfect fit forget everybody else he is the missing link!
Rufus1
February 2nd, 2012
5:34 pm
Al is better than any player you can bring in(Except D12)…
That is why Fans and players(D12) shouldn’t make roster decisions….emotions cloud sound decision making. D12, wanted the Magic to bring in certain players and IT FAILED BADLY….Some of you bloggers would prefer a BROKEN A$$ Chris Kamen(because he is 6′11) to AL….THAT IS COMEDY.
Wyatt Earp
February 2nd, 2012
5:37 pm
“How many centers are better than al horford?” Offensively or Defensively. If the quest is defensively then most of them are… but Heres a quick glance and you do the math.
Bynum
Brook Lopez
2011 Stats: 19.5 ppg, 5.7 rpg and 1.5 bpg in 34.1 minutes per night
Andrea Bargnani
2011 Stats: 21.4 ppg, 5.6 rpg and 0.9 bpg in 35 minutes per night.
Bogut’s 2011 Stats:
13.3 ppg, 11.7 rpg and 2.8 bpg in 35.8 minutes per night.
Dwight Howard , ORL
22 37.6 82 3.7 257 11.7 339 15.4 19.7 2
Kevin Love , MIN
22 39.4 91 4.1 209 9.5 300 13.6 16.6 3
Andrew Bynum , LAL
18 34.3 57 3.2 161 8.9 218 12.1 17.0
6
DeMarcus Cousins , SAC
20 29.1 87 4.4 134 6.7 221 11.1 18.2 7
Subtlety
February 2nd, 2012
5:37 pm
“Insanity is repeating the same thing over and over and over and over, expecting a fcking different result.”
And yet, you will post the same thing over and over? Something to think about. Have you yet gotten a different result in three years of whining about Horford? Over and over, and…etc.
Face it, Horford is not nearly good enough to trade for the kind of center you’d like to have. He’s just not. It ain’t happenin’. bro’. Unless you want to trade Al AND Josh. But you’d never do that, so why keep b!tchin? I guess some folks just like to b!tch. If you were a true Hawks fan, you’d just be happy that they are playing well, and STFU about something not only well beyond your control, but something that obviously upsets you greatly. Lil’ advice, pal, the Al hate ain’t worth the energy you are giving it. Unless….. see your earlier quote.
Troll Alert
February 2nd, 2012
5:38 pm
Troll alert
Admiral Ackbar = grandad
tckr83 =grandad
DS = grandad
ya boy JC
CrαZy
Chris Vivlamore
KevinM
February 2nd, 2012
5:38 pm
Hawks still using their standard ways of negotiating. Offer the min contract and state plenty of playing time.
If you were Martin, where would you go? MIA? LAC? ATL?
I would think the leader would be MIA simply for their potential at a Finals alone….Joel Anthony and Udonis Haslem are in your way of as much PT as you can handle?
Same money as ATL? MIA for me fellas. And Sund allows another one to get away to a rival.
I still say Kaman is the best fit and rid us of some long term contracts. Worry about next year’s signees this summer.
Its time to get rid of the limitations: waive Stack and Pargo and get us a BIG man!
BK lives on with this franchise! Are we still getting consulation from him?
KevinM
February 2nd, 2012
5:39 pm
consultation that is…..
Eric
February 2nd, 2012
5:39 pm
Damn, where all these new guys come from? And all on the same day on the same page. Damn, Its it troll season or what?
Eric
February 2nd, 2012
5:40 pm
Troll alert
Admiral Ackbar = grandad
tckr83 =grandad
DS = grandad
ya boy JC
CrαZy
Chris Vivlamore
Subtlety = Grandad
KBB
February 2nd, 2012
5:40 pm
I would love to have Pryz, that being said, Im not against Kenyon signing if we cant get him. One thing is for sure, a frontline of Martin, Ivan Johnson and ZaZa aint taking crap off of anyone. We would finally have some formidable goons for once.
Eric
February 2nd, 2012
5:41 pm
What you trolls can go haunt a house or something?
Subtlety
February 2nd, 2012
5:46 pm
All this whining and complaining about Al’s lack of defense and his limited play wont help us get out of the first round and more than A good power forward like Al who is doing the best he can. Hes my favorite player so I take it personally when you complain about Al. Stop it now or I will sic my trolls on you.
Save the fcking Whales
Save Al Horford!
Azhole
Subtlety
February 2nd, 2012
5:47 pm
Enter your comments here
Slimjr
February 2nd, 2012
5:49 pm
TROLL ALERT= ATLANTA BLOGGERS…Me included! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Slimjr
February 2nd, 2012
5:50 pm
Dont call me late for Dinner!
Eric
February 2nd, 2012
5:50 pm
Its so many damn troll on this site, Its probably only 2 or 3 legitimate posters and 2 or 3 guys toggling 3 or 4 names on the same damn page.
One guy wants A better center than Al and the other guy doesnt want to see his favorite player go. So they both toggle back and forth under different names.
I say trade the sorry m f and lets up grade. The dude aint cutting what it takes to get to the next level
ya boy JC
February 2nd, 2012
5:54 pm
Thats true Eric.. The dude aint cutting it, doesnt like his job and wants to play another position. His attitude is as such that hes not willing to put his heart into the position and thats what it takes to be a champion. His take it easy attitude doesnt sit well with his team mates and thats the main reason they play better with out him.
CrαZy
February 2nd, 2012
5:54 pm
Who would the Hawks cut Jerry Stackhouse if they got Kenyon?
ya boy JC
February 2nd, 2012
5:57 pm
The hawks biggest problem is not a back up center. Zaza does that just fine. Our biggest problem is a STARTING CENTER. 12pts 9 rebounds 1blk and 1blk against is not going to get you out of the second round. We got tons of power forwards. We got tons of guys who can give you 10 -15 minutes at the center post. but we have 0 (zero) guys who will man the low post, defend the rim and enforce lane control full time. As ive been saying the last 3 years HAWKS NEED A CENTER NOT NAME AL HORFORD if you expect to get out of the second round.
Insanity is repeating the same thing over and over and over and over, expecting a fcking different result.
Co-sign
Subtlety
February 2nd, 2012
6:04 pm
“I say trade the sorry m f and lets up grade. The dude aint cutting what it takes to get to the next level”
Your forgetting that he’s not worth shnizel. Who do you think you could trade him for?
No one wants an injured, bad attitude, locker room bustin’, chemistry destroyer. What GM in his right mind would trade for Horford right now? You are fighting a losing battle, and tilting at windmills again (and again, and…) Makes no sense unless you are as insane as the quote you keep regurgitating.
yodaddybrother
February 2nd, 2012
6:12 pm
I just flat out don’t understand the fascination with Chris Kaman….the guy is a flat out bum.
The Hornets (worst team in the NBA) chose to tell him to stay at home rather than give him minutes. He makes 14 million.
Yall want to blow up the team for a guy that can’t even earn minutes playing for the Hornets??? Just because he’s a “center”??? A soft one at that.
K-Mart is heads, shoulders and shoes above Chris Kaman in every single facet of the game. K-Mart was #1 overall…that would be an absolute steal to bring him in at the vet minimum and add to that he would play significant minutes which is what he would be looking for. K-Mart on this team is the equivalent of T-Mac on this team except at the power forward position.
Josh and K-Mart protecting the rim would be absolutely deadly not to mention he can knock down shots and rebound. Simply put, he fits into the scheme seamlessly.
Subtlety
February 2nd, 2012
6:13 pm
So please stop criticism my Horffy so I can stop defending him. This gets old after awhile.
Subtlety
February 2nd, 2012
6:13 pm
Once again, troll boy, have you gotten a single different result in 3 yrs. of b!tchin about Horford?
Once?
Not even one?
Hmmmm… makes one wonder. What was that quote again?
CrαZy
February 2nd, 2012
6:15 pm
yodaddybrother I know that trick Bitch. You trying to get the pressure of Al by selling these other bum like Kmart. When dont need another power forward we need a center bitch.
Subtlety
February 2nd, 2012
6:17 pm
CraZy please done help the guys trying to get Al traded. Hes my favorite player and I call him Horffy. Please dont get my Horffy traded.
Save the Whales.
Save AL Horford
Subtlety
February 2nd, 2012
6:19 pm
Defend Horford? Not from this corner. Dude is a decent player, but not worth all the hoo-ha. Better than Zaza but not nearly All-Nba. And you cannot get schnizel for him in a trade. Take that to the bank.
Sorry to interrupt your D12 fantasy. Dwight ain’t comin’ here, and if he did, it would take Josh being part of the package. And even that would be strictly a rental. So, troll, do you think D12, Teague and Joe could win a title? If not, bye-bye D12. Sorry to rain on your fantasy.
Troll Alert
February 2nd, 2012
6:21 pm
And the beat goes on…. ladi dadi dee ladi dadi da.
KBB
Troll alert
Admiral Ackbar = grandad
tckr83 =grandad
DS = grandad
ya boy JC
CrαZy
Chris Vivlamore
Subtlety = Grandad
Subtlety
February 2nd, 2012
6:24 pm
Grandad has the greatest respect for Big Al, and would never criticize him the way I do. Grandad is a good ‘ol boy, who knows the game, but he’s not subtle. Guess again.
Subtlety
February 2nd, 2012
6:25 pm
6:19 pm is not my post, I know there are many centers better than Al and Im not going to say only D12 can help us. He would be nice, no doubt but like the earlier list and others. We DO need to upgrade the center position.
And Yes, im am a Hoffy fan.
Subtlety
February 2nd, 2012
6:26 pm
and im not grandad for real.
yodaddybrother
February 2nd, 2012
6:26 pm
hey bruh…Josh Smith has always been better than Al Horford but Josh always gets the snub on the All Star vote.
Al Horford is a good player but what he does is replaceable. That’s why you see the Hawks able to insert Zaza into the starting lineup and keep on rolling. Only fantasy land and NBA2K12 wanna be managers want to trade him though. That’s just dumb
Eric.
February 2nd, 2012
6:27 pm
Damn Trolls are having a thriller night. OK grandad thats enough.
Subtlety
February 2nd, 2012
6:32 pm
Boy, I must have really gotten the troll’s goat for him to try and steal my handle in a vain attempt to draw attention away from this:
The troll posts over and over about how awful Horford is, and yet tries to use Einstein’s quote about insanity never realizing that it fits his three year rampage to a T. Where is Department of Unintended Irony when you need him?
Big Crimson 75
February 2nd, 2012
6:38 pm
Do it baby, Do it!!!
This guy would be perfect for us!!
K-Mart can play plus the attitude he brings!!
Perfect for this team.
Plus, he & Al can play together when Al gets back!!
You go Atl Spirit!!
Pimptabulously
February 2nd, 2012
6:46 pm
Yo, troll, I dont know wtf you talking bout Josh got over 100k more votes than Al. The only way Al gets on the All star team is as a coaches add on reserve.
Grandad, subtlety what ever the f@ck your name is you boy Al is why the Hawks cant get to the second round.
Idiot Watch
February 2nd, 2012
6:48 pm
Subtlety “Boy, I must have really gotten the troll’s goat”
In other news the Pot called the kettle black.
Buddy Grizzard
February 2nd, 2012
6:48 pm
Smith.Leur.Bogut soooo mad… you mad bro? Troll much?
Buddy Grizzard
February 2nd, 2012
6:49 pm
Zaza took it to your boy Bogut… Leur barely played… Ilyasova better than both of them… what’s the Philly score? So mad…
Pimptabulously
February 2nd, 2012
6:49 pm
Check that Subtlety Grandad thats why they cant get out of the second round.
Grandad
February 2nd, 2012
6:49 pm
Im am not me.
Grandad
February 2nd, 2012
6:50 pm
* I am not Subtlety
Buddy Grizzard
February 2nd, 2012
6:51 pm
You gonna cry Smith.Leur.Bogut? Here’s a tissue.
Subtlety
February 2nd, 2012
6:52 pm
No one here is disagreeing that Al held us back some. But even Al had the right idea. The Hawks still need a center. And here you are still b!tch!n about someone who’s not playing this year.
But tell me what your 3 years of railing against Horford has changed? Nada.
So do you fit the Einstein quote?
Little Crimson 75
February 2nd, 2012
6:53 pm
If you trade Al for Kmart you still have a power forward playing center. unless we get one of the 7 – 10 centers who are better than Al, then we should keep our non defensive power forward rather than trade for yours.
Eric.
February 2nd, 2012
6:55 pm
“No one here is disagreeing that Al held us back some. But even Al had the right idea. The Hawks still need a center.”
Damn, A troll with some sense.
Subtlety
February 2nd, 2012
6:57 pm
More sense than saying the same damn thing for 3 solid years.
CrαZy
February 2nd, 2012
6:59 pm
The CrαZy at 6:15 must have nothing better to do than act like a douchenozzle if he has to use other peoples monikers to get a rise out of people. Chris please block for using others monikers!!!
Eric.
February 2nd, 2012
6:59 pm
Well im out of here, I did not come to see the troll hour. I just wanted to see if there was any movement on the hawks getting a Center.
Both of you troll with the 1500 names have the fck at it and after you 2 bitches finish, we still need a starting center.
Later girls.
Chris
February 2nd, 2012
7:00 pm
Fck you troll.
tckr83
February 2nd, 2012
7:01 pm
I can assure you I am not grandad, I’ve disagreed with the guy more than a few times… I’m just a poster with common sense. You’re not going to get (save a few) anyone in here better than Horford unless you blow everything up on a 16-6 team that can legitimately win an wide-open East this year.
All those centers mentioned… stats don’t tell everything. The offenses run in those teams go more through them than the offense does Al Horford in Atlanta. With Teague in there now, Horford is the fourth option offensively… right in front of Marvin, the 5th option. The guy just isn’t going to score 20+ points a game unless he’s in the zone or has a favorable matchup that night. The shots just aren’t there. Horford plays tough and does his job better than most, not all, but most.
I really can’t say that Horford is a problem in Atlanta… Dwight Howard would be nice, but it’s just not reality.
Grandad
February 2nd, 2012
7:02 pm
I really dont like it when you guys attack my trolls and not the other guys trolls. That’s not fair.
Subtlety
February 2nd, 2012
7:02 pm
LOL @ Eric (troll) running away when his hypocrisy is exposed.
Figures.
tckr83
February 2nd, 2012
7:03 pm
and im not me either.
tckr83
February 2nd, 2012
7:05 pm
*Im mean im not Grandad
tckr83
February 2nd, 2012
7:07 pm
Funny guy. Grow up child.
CrαZy
February 2nd, 2012
7:07 pm
AJC really needs to have registered accounts… I can’t stand when people act like idiots!!
Pimptabulously
February 2nd, 2012
7:10 pm
Ok tckr83 you are the last troll standing with your sybil azz. CraZy b!tch.
tckr83
February 2nd, 2012
7:15 pm
^ If you say so… and yes, the AJC needs to have registered accounts.
Bobby Hebert.
February 2nd, 2012
7:41 pm
Have All the troll went home?
Troll Patrol.
February 2nd, 2012
7:55 pm
grandad broke the record with the most trolls use on one blog by one man today.
Subtlety
CrαZy
Yodaddybrother
KBB
ya boy JC
Hmmm
Rob
Blodus
Leedsatlanta
DS
tckr83
strick
New Birth
Jewish King of Israel, Eddie Long
Kross24
LT
Subtlety
February 2nd, 2012
8:10 pm
Troll your best hope is that I’m someone else’s figment. Grandad is too nice. He wouldn’t hold your feet to the fire over your hypocrisy. But I’ll be glad to.
Subtlety
February 2nd, 2012
8:11 pm
BTW, how much did that 3 years of ranting change? Nothing.
Insane.
Subtlety
February 2nd, 2012
8:42 pm
now im the king troll. Im your worst nightmare. Al horford for ever punks.
Subtlety
February 2nd, 2012
8:42 pm
Now rant on that.
Newson
February 2nd, 2012
8:59 pm
Teague needs to be trade,cut or bench. Another nasty performance tonight. Lets get hinrich back in the line up.
Larry
February 2nd, 2012
9:08 pm
I hope the news that Al horford has not been traded doesnt affect the teams moral. I know many of the players where hoping to get a full time starting center. But as of yet Al has not been traded. Well see how this news impacts Hawks play…..
Jimmy
February 2nd, 2012
9:13 pm
teague needs to be traded With Al. and Larry Drew should be traded Also. Has a NBA coach ever been traded?
Newson
February 2nd, 2012
9:15 pm
Jimmy I agree. Looks like the hawks are getting blown out tonight. The Grizzles backcourt is just too much for teague.
Newson
February 2nd, 2012
9:16 pm
Yea the grizzles have 5 players in double figures and 3 are guards.
Larry
February 2nd, 2012
9:17 pm
JJ and Josh are the only two players in double figures for atlanta. How sad. I think its starting to set in that they couldnt get any one to take Al in trade.
Larry
February 2nd, 2012
9:21 pm
I cant watch any more. Hawks need a center and need to start Hinrich
Larry
February 2nd, 2012
9:26 pm
Grizzles have 5 players in double figures hawks have 2.
Teague has 4 points and is no help.
Sundusky
February 2nd, 2012
9:27 pm
Grandad, send me youre number again.
Sundusky
February 2nd, 2012
9:30 pm
Jimmy Damn Grizzles have 3 guards in double figures. teague has 4 points.
Sundusky
February 2nd, 2012
9:32 pm
Grandad send me your number again.
Hawks have conceded the game and all the starters and key players on the bench. Its mop up with 8 minutes to play.
Larry
February 2nd, 2012
9:34 pm
Well I guess all the team moral is gone now that they know Al is not being accepting in any of the trade offers being made. Youd think some one would take 1 of the offers, we are talking All star Al right?
The Monger
February 2nd, 2012
9:35 pm
The idiocracy in here surrounding what consitutes a “big” man in the NBA is mindboggling. The stupid comments come in packs. As stated before there are VERY FEW legit 7 footers who can even contribute at all to an NBA team. I can think of only a few decent 7 footers in this league who can score, rebound, and arent injury prone. You guys on here would not want a 6′9 240 lb. dominant power forward who has been in the NBA for 11 years and is known for his aggressive, banging, hardnosed style because he is ONLY 6 foot 9??? Are you serious?? Like those 2 inches make that much of a difference?? You guys would rather have a 6′11 dude with a 10 inch vertical rather than the 6′9 guy with a 39 inch vertical? Its funny to hear comments like ‘we dont need Martin we need a “BIG”, a real banger and basher”… That is EXACTLY what Martin is..The hawks need rebounders, bangers, and shot blockers and Martin is ALL of that. He has a career rebounding average of 7.2 per game, including years of 10.0, 9.5, and 9.4 rebounds a game. (at 6′9). He has a career shot block average of 1.2 per game (at 6′9). Also as a bonus he has a career scoring average of 13.5 (at 6′9). AND YOU GUYS DONT WANT THIS GUY BECAUSE HE IS 6′9 and not 6′11??? REALLY???
The Monger
February 2nd, 2012
9:41 pm
By the way Al Horford is listed at 6′10 and Kenyon Martin at 6′9. Is this what you fools are really arguing about?? One inch?? Really?? Nevermind the fact that Kenyon Martin has a higher vertical, is much more tenacious around the rim, is a more aggressive defender, and has a fire and passion for the game that is on par with the elites of the league. But hey he is 6′9 right, so lets pass on him..yeah right fools…
hawks D
February 3rd, 2012
5:13 am
we are running out of guys Sund. Make a deal!!!!!!!!!!!! Zaza and Ivan cannot handle this by themselves……no way
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