Drew: Teague a ‘day-to-day decision’

NEW ORLEANS – C-Viv in the Big Easy filling in for MC.

Here are a couple of notes from today’s practice in preparation for Sunday’s game against the Hornets:

* Coach Larry Drew said starting point guard Jeff Teague is day-to-day with an ankle sprain suffered in Friday’s OT win in Detroit. Teague participated in practice Saturday. “He was out here getting some shots up,” Drew said. “He’s moving around on it pretty good. They are still treating it. It will be a day-to-day decision.”

*Drew played Kirk Hinrich, in his second game since returning from shoulder surgery, with 3:48 left in the third until the end of the game. Hinrich told MC that he was “gassed” following the effort. Drew said he was ready to play Jannero Pargo but that he decided to utilize his timeouts to rest Hinrich.  “I was prepared to play Pargo after Jeff gave me the nod that he couldn’t go again,” Drew said. “He came back after they taped him and said that it started to stiffen up a little bit. I threw Kirk in there. I saw he was getting a little winded so I was prepared to throw Pargo in there but I made the decision to use my timeouts where [Hinrich] could get some rest. I kept asking him every timeout, ‘How you feeling, how you feeling?’ He said ‘I’m OK.’”

*The Hawks have gotten off to slow starts the last several games. The travel could be an issue. The Hawks didn’t arrive in New Orleans until 4 a.m. Saturday. They had early-morning arrivals in San Antonio and Detroit. Drew is also concerned that his team doesn’t take an opponent lightly, as they may have in Detroit and can’t afford to do against New Orleans. “When we go back and look at game tape, we see obviously when you are not making shots that gets you off to a little bit of a slow start,” Drew said. “Sometimes you don’t look at an opponent how we would like at a Chicago versus how we look at a team like Detroit that has obviously struggled. Sometimes that factors into it. As a team we are going to have to figure it out, particularly our starters, when we get off to slow starts it takes a little bit of a wake-up call to get us going. Sometimes it’s going to be a situation where it’s going to be too late. We want to be a team that comes out and plays hard start to finish, whether it’s the first quarter or the third quarter. We’ve done that, but we haven’t done it on a consistent basis.”

* Drew rested Joe Johnson and Josh Smith from practice Saturday, calling each “a little tired and a little banged up.”

* Expect the same starting lineup (not including the question about Teague) Sunday against the Hornets with Zaza Pachulia starting at center. Drew said he expected to make in-game adjustments but that the starters would remain the same.

* Drew said he expects a hard-fought game from New Orleans, coming off Friday’s win over Orlando. “To me, it’s going to be a very similar game to the one we just played in Detroit,” Drew said. “It’s going to be a very hard-fought game. It’s a team playing with a sense of desperation. They had lost nine in a row prior to winning [Friday] night against Orlando, which they did very convincingly. It’s another team where we absolutely, positively can’t look at their record and say this is going to be a wash. That team, going back and looking at their last seven or eight ball games, they have been in every ball game to the end. They lost games at the end. It’s going to be a dogfight and we have to be prepared for that.”

* The Hawks will not hold a morning shoot-around Sunday prior to the Hornets game. Instead they will do a walk-through at the team hotel.

* There you go folks. I’m going to write a story for the Sunday paper before I make my first venture into New Orleans. If you’ve got suggestions please feel free to share.

208 comments Add your comment

Jerry West

January 29th, 2012
1:53 pm

Hinrich for McRoberts and Luke Walton. both Walton and McRoberts are under contract thru 2013, but I think Walton can be a contributor or at least trade bait next yr, and McRoberts is reasonably priced for a backup big (3 mil or so/ yr).

downside is it pretty much puts you at the cap threshold for 2012-13.

Grandad

January 29th, 2012
1:58 pm

Ken Strickland

It is very difficult to compare numbers from one team
then project them onto a different team.
Many times one has to look at what a player brings to his new team.
A legit 7 ftr on the Hawks would bring a presence that would not
necessarily show up in the stats.
Having a Big that has a low post game adds a dimension that the
Hawks currently do not have.
(Kamen for exp – has a nice low post game)
Also having a 7 ftr who has bulk 265 [Kamen] that can protect the rim
somewhat; w/o having to load up & jump, once again just his presence
makes him valuable. [kamen - career = good shot blkr]

I’m not promoting Kamen per se, only that we need a Legit Big …
with presence; i e, a 7 ftr who can add dimensions to our team
that currently are missing.
* a long rim defender
* a 7 ftr with bulk
* a legit low post threat
It is doubtful that we can get an all-star that can do all the above.
So, for the money or the trade commodity,
we must take what we can get.
Kamen perhaps comes closest – but at what price ? Kirk ?
Is he worth Kirk + Zaza ? No /// Kirk + Marv ? [?]

I’m not argueing with you;
only offering another perspective.

MattP

January 29th, 2012
2:04 pm

“Hinrich for McRoberts and Luke Walton.”-Jerry West

Sounds like we have a Lakers troll now. No one wants Walton and is contract. We do not need another backup PF in McRoberts, we need a backup center. Please tell me how you think Walton will be a contributor with Williams and McGrady playing major minutes? Drew said J. Johnson will even see minutes at 3 eventually.

Joe Mama

January 29th, 2012
2:04 pm

MattP Im on board with your analysis of Z but hes getting it done with consistent double doubles. Im not saying hes a fix at the 5, Im just saying hes doing a good job.

You are right about mismanagement and human resource errors from the hawks management.

Melo leading in assist is because the offense is run through him. The guards are left out of the offensive scheme pretty much and only get left overs from Melo and Amare. Melo is more a point forward than a true Power forward. The down side of Melo is he gets nothing much in rebounding and nothing in shot blocking which then puts pressure on the low block and leads to fast breaks the other way…

Melo is more a 2 guard in a power forwards body.

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

January 29th, 2012
2:06 pm

LOL @ northcyde trying to downplay my team.

My top 2 picks both have been underwhelming (Amar’e and Monta) yet I still win handily every week.

Your team is complete garbage and will stay at the bottom of the league. It’s even more laughable you claim to be the stats guy here but your team is an abomination.

Winning it all this year.

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

January 29th, 2012
2:08 pm

Your team has made 22 moves (24 is the max).

LMAO

KevinM

January 29th, 2012
2:09 pm

As I see it, the value from Kaman comes some this year, some going forward. Depending on who it takes to get him in a Hawks’ jersey, I would give up a Zaza and Marvin. That’s not going to be enough though because Sund isn’t going to do that, and the Hornets want picks.
Say this deal went through, it’s plain to see that Kaman alone could get close to both Marvin and Zaza’s numbers because we all know Marvin and Zaza do not produce enough against better teams.
And you’re not taking on 14M for one year: the worst is 60% of that number and you are free and clear of multi year deals
It’s a good move going forward and when Al comes back, better depth for the postseason

Eric

January 29th, 2012
2:10 pm

So I guess In some ways Kanter is better, some ways Al is better and in some ways Marvin is better? Marvin? Hes not a center.

What the hell kind of analogy is that ?

Oh I get it, players that disappoint.

All three kanter, marvin and Al are not putting up good number?

brigadierjerry

January 29th, 2012
2:13 pm

Strange year it has been so far although early.

Lakers woouldnt be in the playoffs if it started right now.Boston playing better of late but struggling. Knicks are a mess although I hear Philly as well as Orlando interested in Amare. Miami and Chicago no surprise there. This year if the Hawks play their cards right and get another big man they really have a chance to make some noise. I dont see Indiana and Philly even with their good records of beating Miami or Chicago in a playoff series. In the West looks like Okc conference to lose.

Also, I am always amazed although they arent championship contenders year in and year out Utah always does well doesnt matter even with Sloan gone they never seem to miss a beat. They always draft or get good players that fit their system. I am not sure Favors fits with that team. I was never really high on him in Georgia Tech. Seems unmotivated to me

Joe Mama

January 29th, 2012
2:49 pm

* Drew rested Joe Johnson and Josh Smith from practice Saturday, calling each “a little tired and a little banged up.” – MC

Good coaching. Take care of your horses.

Najeh Davenpoop

January 29th, 2012
3:09 pm

“Najeh wants to trade Zaza AND Marvin for Kaman.”

It was Kirk and Zaza for Kaman, actually.

I still think that’s a talent upgrade for the Hawks, but it doesn’t solve the main problem, which is depth. I’d prefer just trading Kirk for a big man and keeping Zaza.

drmaryb.[*_*].

January 29th, 2012
3:09 pm

Thanks Joe Mamma. We see things the same it seems, let’s stick together.
Thanks Nortycyde. I was confused about the Knicks, because I dont follow them to closely, but my Dad, (RIP) was from the Big Apple. I care about NY too.

Thanks RajaH. I forgot about Tibor Pleiss and OKC. Why sell a pick to OKC when we need size on this roster. I guess the ASKG needed jet fuel and a RED restaurant more. Aye ASKG! Get a big man and a scoreboard!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Najeh thanks, for the info on kito. So, based on that, we got nothing from that 2nd round pick this year, nor last. What a group of low life szeekers -ASKG. I hate this ownership group – just sell the team already. They jilted Alex Meruelo and, we will never know what really happened with that sale.

Najeh Davenpoop

January 29th, 2012
3:12 pm

“Why would anyone suggest we pay $14M for a 7′ 265lb center who’s slower, not as quick or athletic, and can’t out produce Horford, who HORFORD HATERS desperately want us to get rid of.”

Why are you comparing him to Horford? I never suggested that Kaman should replace Horford. I only brought up Kaman as a stopgap starter at center for the rest of this season, since he has an expiring contract.

Dawg

January 29th, 2012
3:20 pm

Benson (or any other center that needs development) would be more productive on our roster than Stackhouse (who I like alot). Hire Stackhouse as a coach but get SOMEONE to help at center.

Ken Strickland

January 29th, 2012
3:21 pm

GRANDAD-Understood. I’m not saying I wouldn’t want Kaman, because I’d be lying if I did. But I wouldn’t want him if we had to trade away any of our top 7-8 players just to match his enormous expiring salary. If we’re going to trade Horford, Josh, JJ and/or Marvin for a center, it should be for an impact center like DHoward or ABynum, rather than a none impact center like kaman. He would definitely help us, but he wouldn’t make us an instant title contender.

You can build about Dwight or Bynum, but no team would even think about building around Kaman.

Buddy Grizzard

January 29th, 2012
3:21 pm

Kaman has played more than 32 games once in the last 4 seasons:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kamanch01.html

Grandmaster JeJe (GM)

January 29th, 2012
3:23 pm

“This year if the Hawks play their cards right and get another big man they really have a chance to make some noise.”

LOL we have had the exact same core for 5-6 years and people still bank on us getting a big man.

Sund has made like 1 meaningful move as GM and will not make any moves before his contract [thankfully] expires in a few months.

Hopefully, LD, Sund, and ASG are all gone by August.

Najeh Davenpoop

January 29th, 2012
3:31 pm

“Kaman has played more than 32 games once in the last 4 seasons:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/k/kamanch01.html

That includes this season, which is only 17 games old. In the last 4 full seasons, he has played over 32 games twice.

SteveW

January 29th, 2012
3:35 pm

Since the Lakers need a PG, I was thinking more like Pargo and a 2nd pick or two, since we have 4 in the next 2 years for Troy Murphy. Vet. Min. for Vet Min. so your not adding payroll in the trade.

I like Pargo – he’s been better than I thought, but even if Teague or Hinrich went down, we could play Green, TMac, or even JJ as backup PG for a while. Not long term mind you, but for a few games.

And Murphy – yes, a PF, but he’s at least 6-11 245. Something tells me he would have guarded Monroe better than Collins did.

Then you can still sign Kenyon if possible, and release Stack.

I’m also for the Kito deal if the above doesn’t work out. No he’s not a C long term in the NBA I don’t think. But in the short term, he is athletic, a legit 6-10 w/o shoes, has a 36 inch vertical, 6.1% body fat, who can possibly put on 10-15 lbs, and you give you some short term energy in the post, at least on D. Let him stay in DLeague as long as possible, and then bring him in. Better than nothing.

SteveW

January 29th, 2012
3:36 pm

Troy hasn’t been playing much for the Lakers either – so he may be expendable. I remember a couple of years ago, he was beastin’ it for the Pacers. Even had a good game against the Hawks if I remember.

Ken Strickland

January 29th, 2012
3:41 pm

NAJEH-I wasn’t directing that at you specifically. Two yrs ago I made an issue of us trading for him. We’re not going to get the kind of center most of us want for what we’re willing to pay. And we’re not going to improve if we trade away any of our starters to acquire what’s available. What we need is another Big that’s quick, fast, tall, and athletic enough to guard other centers with those attributes.

With our new and vastly improved perimeter DEF, which does a very good job of limiting backcourt penetration, we can utilize a player like Benson. He should be able to hold his own against teams like the Heat, who utilizes smaller less physical centers. Having both he and Twin, along with Zaza, would give us more depth and versatility at center. Horford’s return would just give us that much more depth and versatility.

brigadierjerry

January 29th, 2012
3:48 pm

drmaryb,

What was the name of your dads barbershop in NY?

Since i live up north i see a lot of the knicks and just like northclyde said the problem isnt defense it is offense. What coach allows players to take 45 threes as a team especially to players who are not shooters but are slashers at the hoop. The pieces dont match to dantoni style. he much prefers the team the knicks had last year before the Melo trade. I do agree with northclyde when they get woodson they will be much better as well as baron davis but by them the knicks might be 10 games under .500 but as bad as the east is they will get in probably 7th or 8th seed.

drmaryb also i agree with you on the hawks taking a wait and see approach. It is like the old Janet song what have you done for me lately. Also by the way tomorrow on the show unsung is Full Force. I am sure you remember them

Grandmaster Jeje,

I didnt say they will get a big man i said if. we know what the hawks are they would rather get ramon noodles than steak

brigadierjerry

January 29th, 2012
3:51 pm

northclyde,

agree with you on your last post

drmaryb.[*_*].

January 29th, 2012
4:21 pm

Briggs

“Busy Bee” on Linden Blvd. In Jamacia Queens (Springfield Gardens) was the main hub, but Eddie had about 7 locations total. in the ’70’s to ’80’s.

Jerry West

January 29th, 2012
4:51 pm

@ MattP

Nah, not a Laker guy, just haven’t posted much (if at all) since last season. Just kicking around ideas to fortify the frontcourt depth. McBob would do that, and he could definitely give you minutes at the 5. 6′10″, will board and protect the rim, and has some offensive game. I’d like him there better than Drago or Twin (unless we need Twin to pester Dwight)

As for Walton contributing, not so much this year, but he may help out next yr. If not, he’s an expiring that you should be able to flip for some help for next year’s bench.

Oh yeah, why does this C-Viv dude fill in for MC so much?

brigadierjerry

January 29th, 2012
4:53 pm

drmaryb,

Yes have been there before in the 80’s. By the way shocked atlanta got some love on ESPN. Magic had them the 5th best team in the east and Chris Broussard and Jon Barry have them top thee for what it is worth

drmaryb.[*_*].

January 29th, 2012
4:58 pm

Magic’s Top 5 Picks!

Heat
Bulls
Pacers
Celtics
Hawks

Chris ? puts Hawks at #3 and Philly in Celtics spot. No one believe’s in the Magic, not even the Magic Man himself. Looks like our Hawks are earning some respect, with TMac and the bench.
C

drmaryb.[*_*].

January 29th, 2012
5:06 pm

Wonder if The Black Ninja can roll out there today? Probably not though.

Astro Joe

January 29th, 2012
5:18 pm

Kevin, you said Say this deal went through, it’s plain to see that Kaman alone could get close to both Marvin and Zaza’s numbers because we all know Marvin and Zaza do not produce enough against better teams.
.

So do you know that Kamen will be clutch against better teams?

drmaryb.[*_*].

January 29th, 2012
5:18 pm

najeh, for the price i want to keep zaza too. he nasty, young and fights dirty. that’s the only way to fight … head butts.

Joe Mama

January 29th, 2012
5:19 pm

No problem Mary, Ive noticed that your evaluation of our needs is on point. We do agree and I like your flavor. Stick together…hummm sounds great. In fact I’ll look forward to it. Thanks for the reach out.

The Circus continues…..

Big Lou
January 28th, 2012
6:44 pm

I expect another game of poor shot selection, but they won’t be lucky this time to steal the W. You heard it here first!

Really?

Al horford for Kaman? Really? Wheres the upgrade in that? That’s pretty much the same issue. Stop gap? The impact of having Kaman is minimum. Sure its some help because we are depleted, but not impact type help where we take it to their ass in the second round type help…

An Al for Kaman trade impacting result is not worth the administrative costs associated with the trade. Id rather go Development league and pull out the best low post enforcer available and keep Al or wait to near deadline and see what we can package and who’s available.

MattP

January 29th, 2012
5:24 pm

Jerry West,

Just because he is 6′10 doesn’t make him a Center. McRoberts is not a Rim protector, I don’t even think he can play post work with other centers. We do not need someone to play center a little, we need someone to play more then a little.I would rather give someone in the D League little minutes at center then having to give up Hinrich’s expiring contract for McRoberts and Walton.

As for Walton, He is not an expiring contract this season, he is still under contract next season. Why give up a big expiring contract in Hinrich for Walton that still goes through next season? If we want room for the bench we would just keep Hinrich and let him walk.

Not trying to argue with you, I am just saying it is pointless and stupid.

Joe Mama

January 29th, 2012
5:25 pm

Giving Marvin and Zaza for Kaman is about as smart as selling the printed yellow pages in an electronic era.

Does any body even use the yellow pages any more? Why do they still make and deliver them?

No thank you, We keep Marvin and Z money.the prize fighter. You keep the Kaveman.

drmaryb.[*_*].

January 29th, 2012
5:34 pm

Joe Mamma!

I just love that ID … that’s the funniest one on here, makes me LMAO every time. It’s brutal to see our Hawks get pushed around in the paint, we need some beef, man. We don’t need no mayonaise. LOL!

Joe Mama

January 29th, 2012
5:37 pm

As you know I got another one if you get tired of that one…

Just let me know..

Najeh Davenpoop

January 29th, 2012
5:38 pm

“Oh yeah, why does this C-Viv dude fill in for MC so much?”

The Thrashers are gone. C-Viv gotta eat too.

drmaryb.[*_*].

January 29th, 2012
5:40 pm

Yellow Pages!

“Giving Marvin and Zaza for Kaman is about as smart as selling the printed yellow pages in an electronic era.

Does any body even use the yellow pages any more? Why do they still make and deliver them?”
______________

LMAO! I use mine when I run out of toilet paper, like my Grandma used to do in the 40’s before my Mamma was born.

brigadierjerry

January 29th, 2012
5:40 pm

Watching this ABC game Heat vs Bulls, does anyone wish the NBA was back on NBA or CBS instead of ABC or ESPN?They put some of the most useless stats on there. They just put that James is shooting 55% this season and showed a graphic in the past 3 years he was shooting 50%. What a useless statistic.

Also, I try to avoid watching BSPN as much as possible only watch for games. I much prefer watching the individual sports networks such as NBATV MLB Network NFL network. I find them much more objective than BSPN

KevinM

January 29th, 2012
5:41 pm

AJ, Kaman can state the case being a former all-star….Zaza and Marvin cannot.

I say Kaman gives us a better option immediately…having Al back would be a bonus.

Let’s see what T-Mac has left at SF.

Buddy Grizzard

January 29th, 2012
5:45 pm

Stack also a former all star.. maybe start him at center?

Sautee

January 29th, 2012
5:46 pm

“As you know I got another one if you get tired of that one…”

“Just let me know..”

Made me laugh hard. Nice one, T-s.

KevinM

January 29th, 2012
5:48 pm

AJ, a couple more notes…

Kaman, 76 games in 09-10….18.5/9.3 per game in 34 min……75% FT

Not a lot to go on this year, but he sounds like he has been healthy.

But facts are facts, and I have zero faith in Sund/Gearon. They haven’t convinced me they want to win a championship.

Kaman / Josh / T-Mac / Joe / JT

Upgrade in starting lineup immediately

KevinM

January 29th, 2012
5:51 pm

Joe Mama, oh we’ll keep our guys, I believe that 100%, and we’ll continue to fight for a Top 4 seed if we can even shoot for that this year. Didnt you hear Al is out?

drmaryb.[*_*].

January 29th, 2012
5:52 pm

Sautee … T s is really a part of the blog family now and i got no beef with dude, until he starts hi-jacking everybody’s ID. LOL!

Buddy Grizzard

January 29th, 2012
5:59 pm

Please mark this down on your calendars. On Jan. 29th Buddy G. stated for the record:

1. The Hawks will not trade for Kaman

2. Whatever team trades for him, he will get injured before the season is over.

SoullRenaissance

January 29th, 2012
6:02 pm

It would behoove the ASG and Sund to roll the dice and bring Kaman to the squad. We are not asking for a BIG splash – a major ripple should suffice.

Teague
JJ
TMac
Smith
Kaman

sweet lineup – Vlad could platoon with TMAC.

SoullRenaissance

January 29th, 2012
6:03 pm

Buddy Grizzard – why do you figure Kaman would get injured?

SoullRenaissance

January 29th, 2012
6:04 pm

I good one winding down in Miami! Hopefully we gain a game on CHI and keep pace with Heat.

Buddy Grizzard

January 29th, 2012
6:07 pm

“Why do you figure Kaman would get injured?” – SoulRenaissance

2007-2008 56 games played
2008-2009 31 games played
2009-2010 76 games played
2010-2011 32 games played

Oh, just a hunch.

MattP

January 29th, 2012
6:11 pm

Refs like to ruin good games…