Atlanta Hawks: Hawks release rookie guard Donald Sloan

Rookie Donald Sloan ended up being the odd man out with Kirk Hinrich’s return from shoulder surgery.

The Hawks waived Sloan today, well in advance of the Feb. 10 deadline for all contracts to be come guaranteed. The Hawks now have 14 players on the roster and, by my accounting, releasing Sloan gets them comfortably below the luxury-tax line so they won’t need to waive anyone else for that reason. Signing a veteran free agent this season without releasing a player by Feb. 10 would push Atlanta’s payroll back above the tax line.

The Hawks opted to keep Jerry Stackhouse and Jannero Pargo, who both also are on non-guaranteed contracts. Pargo provides veteran insurance at point guard behind Jeff Teague and Hinrich, while Stackhouse has played a total of 38 minutes in seven games.

Clearly Sloan wasn’t going to earn a regular role for the Hawks this season. His salary for next season would have increased by about $280,000; under salary-cap rules, signing a veteran with three or more years experience would cost the Hawks roughly $90,000 more than a second-year player like Sloan.

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i_am_soulstar

January 26th, 2012
3:21 pm

Ra'mon

January 26th, 2012
3:25 pm

FTPB, O’Brien, the Hawks struggle when they play great interior defensive teams, similar to majority of the league who struggle against it. And those are the games, where Marvin’s number one goal should be to get 10 rebounds minimum.

Regular Joe

January 26th, 2012
3:31 pm

“Pargo provides veteran insurance at point guard behind Jeff Teague and Hinrich, while Stackhouse has played a total of 38 minutes in seven games.”

I don’t know why this was funny to me, but it was.

Melvin

January 26th, 2012
3:32 pm

Not surprising…. I would have preferred to keep Benson over Sloan any how…

Astro Joe

January 26th, 2012
3:33 pm

No brainer. MC, if they truly think they will sign a vet big man (e.g., Kenyon Martin), will they need to cut another player for luxury tax purposes, or will the prorated salary by that late date be low enough to keep them below the tax line?

Hawks4Eva

January 26th, 2012
3:37 pm

The right move.

Hawks4Eva

January 26th, 2012
3:39 pm

On second thought….just how important is Jerry Stackhouse? Not much from a practical stand point I would imagine. Turn the page already.

Rusty McBooger

January 26th, 2012
3:40 pm

WHO Cares….Sloan be Gone !!

drmaryb.[*_*].

January 26th, 2012
3:44 pm

Najeh already told us that Sloan was waived FTPB. Who’s the next low man on the totem pole? Better yet, when are we gonna’ get a real big man in here?

Marcus

January 26th, 2012
3:44 pm

Stack might be heart-broken for Valentines Day, esp. if we continue to come up small vs. the GOOD teams who have interior presence. J-Smoove can’t guard everybody.

O'Brien

January 26th, 2012
3:52 pm

I dont think anyone is surprised by this move.

AJ,

I dont think Rick is convinced that they “will” sign a vet big man. I will not be surprised if the team we have now is the team we have after the deadline.

And keep in mind too, that contracts become guaranteed weeks before the trade deadline, so it will be interesting to see how it plays out (depending on MC’s answer to your question of course).

drmaryb.[*_*].

January 26th, 2012
3:53 pm

Marcus is right, we can’t really ride Josh at all right now. Josh has really stepped up to the challenge of rbounding and defending but, he can’t do it all by himself. The owners need to wake up and spend wisely, let their lame duck GM do his job without “jerry jonesing” his every move. If Gearon,Jr wanna’ be like Blank, then give the GM some blank checks.

If Joel Anthony is our Horford, then we need a Udonis Haslem. kenyon Martin fits that bill. Just do something man.

Astro Joe

January 26th, 2012
3:55 pm

OB, that’s why I asked the question. Because they may need to juggle things based on timing. They could create the extra “tax cushion” and sign any one of the bigs we’ve been discussing for ther past few weeks if Kenyon doesn’t work out.

The Truth

January 26th, 2012
3:56 pm

Sloan had potential just needed seasoning and more PT. A victim of circumstance, he was in the right place but just at the wrong time. I wish am well.

SteveW

January 26th, 2012
3:58 pm

Najeh – About Marvin, you forgot falling down for no apparent reason as well – he’s got to be the best in the League at that.

Especially for a once in 10 year talent like Marvin.

Ra'mon

January 26th, 2012
3:58 pm

DMB, cosign 3:53. If Joel Anthony is our Horford, then we need a Udonis Haslem. kenyon Martin fits that bill. Just do something man.

By the way, Camby is healthy now. Won’t hurt to see if Kurt Thomas is available.

Sautee

January 26th, 2012
3:58 pm

Ramon,

FTPB:” By the way, Horford routinely shoots under 40% against the Spurs for his career. So please don’t say we lost because he wasn’t playing.”

How about those NINE offensive rebounds he got against them last year? Would THAT have helped in a game where we were out rebounded by 9?

Not saying Al would have made the difference, but I cannot believe that people don’t think we miss his rebounding. Not only that, but do you think Al fumbles those passes from Teague in the lane, a la Zaza? Possibly, but given my druthers, I’d have him uninjured, so we could see.

It is what it is, but we DO need another big. And we miss Horford’s rebounding, if nothing else.

SteveW

January 26th, 2012
4:00 pm

Kenyon Martin – Udonis Haslem analogy is a good one. If Martin can be anything close to a healthy Haslem, get him on this team

HoosierHawk

January 26th, 2012
4:03 pm

@MC with this talk about Kenyon Martin, would he be playing the 5 spot? I don’t ever recall him playing the 5 in Denver.

SteveW

January 26th, 2012
4:06 pm

Sloan and Ivan were teammates in Erie with the Bayhawks. I do wish Sloan well. I could see him being a 2nd or 3rd PG in this League like Royal Ivey or something.

Ra’mon – I’d take Kurt Thomas right now also. We’re not that far away from maybe truly contending this year. Maybe a piece away. I like ZaZa for what he is, but what he is not is a consistent starting C in the NBA – no hands, gets no calls, short arms so few blocks.

What he is is a great energy Big off the bench that can enforce and intimidate with the best of them currently. He’s no Rick Mahorn or Bill Lambeer however.

The Truth

January 26th, 2012
4:09 pm

What I see, Kenyon Martin and Ivan are redundant. That’s not really an upgrade for our needs. We really need more size. Exactly Ivan shoots better FT% anyway.

SteveW

January 26th, 2012
4:11 pm

Hoosier – I’m not MC, but I did follow the Nuggets a little bit, and I do think he played some 5 for them on occasion. They had so many injuries, it was difficult to keep up with who was playing where, but if I’m not mistaken, he’s played some 5 not just in Denver, but at other times in his career also.

But it’s not his natural position – he’s a 4 of course naturally.

drmaryb.[*_*].

January 26th, 2012
4:11 pm

Blog CON-Troll!

MC, It’s almost February and you indicated that the AJC is bringing their blogs into the 21st century. One user ID per email address is not leading edge technology, it’s almost extinct these days. By the time the AJC get up to speed, we’ll all be wearing space boots.

I know you have no super powers over the bosses, however your blog troll has been a menace to us all with his own 15 ID’s and hi-jacking all others. the troll’s comments are pornographic in nature, debasive, harassing, relentless and aggressive. At a minimum, could someone on the AJC staff moderate these comments and block/filter the blatant spelling of sexually explicit words?

Myself and others have shied away from blogging as of late in lieu of more productive past times. The entertainment value here is swiftly waning.

Please help us.

Melvin

January 26th, 2012
4:17 pm

Talks of signing Kenyon Martin is just a smoke screen by the ASG. We’ve been down this road with them before. They would mention signing a household name player and they know that player has no intentions of siging with the Hawks. After the fail attempt, they will throw their hands up, shrug their shoulders and said we tried. Remember talks of signing Big Z. KMart will sign with either the Heat or Knicks unless the ASG make him a much better offer than those teams (which history tells us that’s highly unlikely). Thats my two cents…

Ra'mon

January 26th, 2012
4:18 pm


Sautee, first Horford wouldn’t have been in the lane to receive the pass from Teague.

Secondly, Horford NEVER got 9 offensive rebounds against the Spurs last season. He got 1 offensive rebounds in one game, and four in another. And that game he got 4, he wasn’t even the starting center that night, because LD went with the big lineup.

The fact remains, the Hawks haven’t beat SAS in Texas with or without Al, so I don’t see where he would’ve made a huge difference.

And guess what, one of those games, Josh was injured and didn’t play. And Horford went 6 for 15, matched up against Duncan. And had a +/- of – 5, and that was with Kirk in the lineup, so no Bibby to blame. Last night Josh was 6 for 17, with a +/- of 0 . The only Hawk last night, without a negative +/-, hmmmm.

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=310405001

This is the other game they played last season, without Joe Johnson. And notice Al’s +/- of – 19, compared to Josh’s 0, although they played equal amount of minutes. And even in that game, you could say Al had 5 more rebounds than Josh. But Josh had 4 more assists, two blocks, and committed 0 fouls compared to Al’s 5.

Ra'mon

January 26th, 2012
4:19 pm

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=301210024 , Sautee, this was the second game last season.

Astro Joe

January 26th, 2012
4:20 pm

The Truth, Ivan is a 27 YO rookie who is still learning the pro game. That certainly is not the case with kenyon. In a perfect world, we’d get experience and size in a healthy body capable of holding up in this compressed schedule AND would be ready to play tomorrow in Detroit. From that ideal scenario, you start walking backwards and you get what you can. Zaza is our primary back-up at center. Soits not like we netered the season one player deep at that position.

Rufus1

January 26th, 2012
4:21 pm

I think Benson is in the D-league at the Hawks request, because he could make more money in Europe. I think he is the last resort Big Man, if Horford can’t return or no good trade offer are availible.

Ra'mon

January 26th, 2012
4:24 pm

Sautee, I agree we do miss his rebounding. But at the same time, I believe, there’s a better atmosphere on the court without Al. So if that’s the trade off, I don’t know. If Al was as physical as Zaza is (Zaza’s the same height as Al also), then even that would be better. I don’t remember the last game Al made another big complain to the ref that he was fouling him too much. But Zaza does that every other game. When Horford was at UF, he BULLIED Oden, because he guarded him, not Noah. When the Hawks drafted Horford, I thought they were getting a bully, not an usher, lol. That’s the only thing, I don’t see Horford FIGHT.

Buddy Grizzard

January 26th, 2012
4:25 pm

Alright listen up all you trade machine junkies… here is the serious question you all need to be pondering. Do we want Brendan Haywood’s long term contract (three more years with a team option for a fourth at $8-10m per season) or do we want Shawn Marion (two more years at $8-9m per) for Kirk Hinrich at the trade deadline?

Dallas will be looking to dump salary in the hopes of landing Dwight Howard AND Deron Williams. These players will be available. My answer is, I’m not interested in either player. They are both marginal players and, with Dirk unable to contribute and Tyson Chandler gone, they have not been able to elevate their team in the early going. I think if you plug in Haywood as the starting C in Atlanta for the next three years we head straight to the lottery. I think Kirk does more for this team than either player, although getting him to stay with a reduced salary will be tough.

I do think, however, that it’s time to part ways with Marvin. He started the season strong and it looked like he might be on his way to a career year but he has pulled his usual disappearing act. Teams have been interested in him in the past and I think the combination of T-Mac, Vlad and Ivan gives you enough at the small forward position that you can dump Marv’s salary and just move on.

I also think Stackhouse needs to be cut before his contract becomes guaranteed. We’ve got plenty of wing depth and are in desperate need of a big man. The Hawks need to keep a minimum salary slot open to sign either Kenyon Martin (much more likely to end up in Miami) or… drum roll please… Hilton Armstrong. We need big bodies and he will be available once the French league concludes.

tyger

January 26th, 2012
4:25 pm

D Sloan keep your head up…
U came, competed and won an NBA roster spot…
GO Play, your time will come…

Ivan the Terrible plays dumb…
As much as I like his scrappiness…
He’s getting away from his strengths…
He doesnt pick/roll, turnovers, bad shots…
Wondered why he hadn’t made a team before…

Kenyon Martin is a no brainer…
Kenyon is tough for real…
Only 6′9, plays like 7′0, all boards belong to him…
You want see him jacking crooked jumpers from the key…

Melvin

January 26th, 2012
4:27 pm

Astro,

Ivan is also a 27yr old rookie that doesn’t watch tape. Is it shocking that he seem to always be in foul trouble and out of place on defensive rotation.

Rufus1

January 26th, 2012
4:27 pm

All I see in that ESPN box score is, Teague DNP…I got mad and closed the link.

Ra'mon

January 26th, 2012
4:27 pm

KMart would have no reason to sign with Miami, and New York, may not be better than an 8th seed, if that this season. And even with Ronny Turiaf, he wouldn’t even be the first big off of the bench. I could see Martin signing with Atlanta, LAL, or Dallas. And maybe even the Clippers or Thunder.

Rufus1

January 26th, 2012
4:29 pm

available^^^

Melvin

January 26th, 2012
4:32 pm

Ramon,

It was rumored that his relationship with Melo and someone else on the Knicks (can’t remember who) would give them a good chance of signing him.

Rufus1

January 26th, 2012
4:34 pm

Hilton Armstrong….. I reapeat, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

drmaryb.[*_*].

January 26th, 2012
4:35 pm

Dollar Tree!

Briis baby! Let me grab your ankles before you fall too deep in that 2 for $1 bargain bin. Hilton Armstrong? Your’re really scraping the bottom now and, I don’t want you to scratch those pretty knuckles. LOL

We need something decent Briggs if, we’re going to be any type of contender.
9 tough, scrappy boards per night and someone who can finish at the rim would be a helpful upgrade. Is that too much to ask for, Sund? D-League should have something.

The Truth

January 26th, 2012
4:38 pm

“From that ideal scenario, you start walking backwards and you get what you can” AJ

This has been the typical pattern of Hawks management. “Get what you can” (cheaply) without addressing the problem. That’s how we ended up with players like Etan, Joe Smith and others. Frankly, at the end of the day, we need size and athleticism on our frontline. The closest thing we currently have to that is Collins and he gets little PT.

Melvin

January 26th, 2012
4:40 pm

Go get Rasheed. His size and skill set compliments our other bigs perfectly. He’s a guy that can defend the tall and athletic centers like Howard, Bynum and Jordan. He also could provide some scoring and good passing on offense. Get it done Sund….

rollow lawson

January 26th, 2012
4:42 pm

Sign Rasheed Wallace!!

Astro Joe

January 26th, 2012
4:46 pm

Buzzy, you kind of went two different ways. Dallas would gladly take Hnrich’s expiring contract for virtually anyone on their roster. But making a trade for an average (at best) center with 3 more years of escalating salary seems like a desperate move to me. Imagine making that move only to have another key player go down for extended time with an injury and then being stuck with Brendan. In fact, I think folk who have watched Brendan would say that he is a larger version of Marvin, one good game followed by 4 games where you’re not sure that he suited up. He is the starting center on the championship team and what has he done this season with that golden opportunity (while playing alongside Dirk)? Nada.

In Marvin’s case, some of his alledged disappearing act is because of how LD uses him. A few games ago, Marvin shot 4-5 (or 5-6) and barely played in the 2nd half. Regardless of what Marvin is doing, he will be pulled out around the 4:00 minute mark of the 1st and 3rd quarter. Last night, he was off to a nice stat in the 3rd quarter while Josh stayed in a funk (I’m talking about a very specific period of time, not evaluating careers here). LD could have tried Marvin at PF where he likely would have done a better job checking Bonner on the perimeter. Instead, he put in Vlad and TMac for his starting forwards. TMac is this great distributor but has Marvin been on the floor with him for more than a few token minutes?

I’ll trade anyone on this team but I’d be hard pressed to even trade Pargo for Brendan’s contract (ignoring CBA salary-matching trade rules of course).

SteveW

January 26th, 2012
4:48 pm

Unless Hilton has vastly improved, I say no to that – we could do better with Dampier or ‘Sheed or somebody.

Kenyon has Finals experience, and is a little longer and more explosive than Ivan. We’re talking about an All Star, All NBA Defense kind of guy with Finals experience as opposed to a 27 year old rookie who’s looking lost at times. And I like Ivan, but they definitely are not redundant.

I know the Blazers, Mavs, and New York are also interested in KMart as well as I would guess Denver. Not sure about that however.

Rufus1

January 26th, 2012
4:48 pm

I think cash and 2 2nd round picks could get Jason Thompson or JJ Hickson…The Bobcats DJ White…Hornets Jason Smith

SteveW

January 26th, 2012
4:53 pm

Funny reading the NYK blogs – some are convinced they are about to win a title. They better get to work, or they may miss the playoffs.

And Kenyon has had 2 microfracture surgeries – but your not wanting him to be the starter, just play the stretch run and the playoffs, and be used kinda like TMac.

Sign KMart, keep he and TMac healthy, get Horford back for a little extra push, and you’ve got a formidable team come postseason.

I’d stick Ivan and KMart on LeBron and tell them to do what they have to do, if you know what I mean – Just joking!!!

Astro Joe

January 26th, 2012
4:53 pm

Onemore piece of speculation. If the Magic are certain to move D12 in the next 6-7 weeks, wouldn’t you prefer to have all of your trade assets in case you could be a third or fourth team involved with a major shuffling of players? Some team may need Hinrich’s deal to facilitate a move and we could net something in return better than going solo. I think with D12, Deron and potentially one or more of the Celtic Big 3 in play, it may be wise to stand pat and see if you can steal something later than settle for chuck steak that expired two days earlier. And most of y’all would be all about the “why couldn’t we…” noise if we were sitting here with “Old Man River” while something big was going down around us.

Rufus1

January 26th, 2012
4:55 pm

Trade Kirk for Milsap

O'Brien

January 26th, 2012
4:56 pm

Ra’mon,

After seeing how Kurt Thomas gave Al all he could handle in the Milwaukee playoff series, I don’t know why Sund didn’t sign him when he was available. The Blazers signed him just last month. Last Month!

Reggie Evans was available too, for only $1.3 mil. And what did Rick do? Nothing. Sat on his hands with Benson and Rolle. …SMH.

O'Brien

January 26th, 2012
4:58 pm

AJ,

If the Magic are certain to move D12 in the next 6-7 weeks, wouldn’t you prefer to have all of your trade assets in case you could be a third or fourth team involved with a major shuffling of players?.

This is Rick Sund and the ASG we are talking about. What have they ever done that suggests creativity?

Rufus1

January 26th, 2012
4:58 pm

Cole Aldrich…give-up next years #1