Atlanta Hawks: Spurs 105, Hawks 83
- The Hawks are deeper than last season but the bench didn’t look so good against a team like the Spurs. This time Larry Drew decided not to ride ride his starters once it became clear the reserves had little to offer.
- Hawks starters other than Jeff Teague weren’t anything great offensively but at least they played some defense. The Spurs made 31 of their 50 twos and 11 of their 23 threes. It felt like 20 of those twos came off cuts to the basket or roll men.
- Matt Bonner is a good 3-point shooter. The Hawks allowed him to get off seven attempts (only one was challenged that I remember) and he made five.
- “We had some defensive breakdowns to allow them to get some good looks at the 3,” Larry Drew said in a postgame interview with SportSouth’s Jerome Jurenovich. “In most cases we do a pretty good job defending the 3. Time and time again we kept losing people. At the same time, you have to tip your hat to the Spurs for the things they ran and the things they exploited.”
- This was another game that highlighted Atlanta’s lack of length (Ivan Johnson) and athleticism (Zaza Pachulia) in the middle. Atlanta’s centers did their best to tangle with Tim DuncanTiago Splitter and DeJuan Blair but that’s a lot of size and skill.
- Duncan, Spliiter and Blair combined for 39 points and 22 rebounds in 73 minutes, shot 16 of 25 from the field and had 10 of San Antonio’s 15 free-throw attempts. The Atlanta trio of Zaza, Ivan and Josh Smith: 26 points and 13 rebounds in 68 minutes, 11 of 27 from the field and six of Atlanta’s 10 free-throw attempts.
- Zaza actually did a respectable job checking Duncan (after he also was good vs. Andrew Bogut) because he seemed to frustrate Duncan with his grappling. Ivan struggled to defend down low (but did get a couple blocks). Zaza and Josh Smithprovide the only resistance for Atlanta around the basket against opponents with any kind of skilled size.
- Teague was the catalyst during Atlanta’s comeback in the second quarter and not just because he had his floater working. He gave Tony Parker fits defensively with his quick hands, nicely set up Zaza (who got fouled) and Joe (who missed an open 3) and started the break that led to Josh’s and-1. Teague had no assists but it wasn’t for lack of trying to get guys good shots.
- “Jeff has really been playing well for us,” Drew said. “He was able to match speed-for-speed with [Tony] Parker.”
- The times Smith made up his mind to attack the basket he often spun right into Splitter/Duncan/San Antonio’s zone or fumbled the ball away. I’m not sure why he was arguing that charging call that led to a T.
- Joe Johnson missed some shots on clean catches, couldn’t get anything going Iso and then seemed to lay back in the second half. He did make some good passes off drives and out of doubles while earning seven assists.
- Kirk Hinrich made his season debut and looked surprisingly smooth at times (some nice catch-and-shoots) , a bit ragged at others (simply losing the ball for a turnover). “I was very encouraged by Kirk’s performance tonight,” Drew said. “I thought he would come back winded. He played with a nice rhythm and his shot looked good.”
- If tonight is an indication, and you never can tell sometimes with Drew, Hinrich will get most of his minutes at point guard. That would mean Jannero Pargo slides to the end of the rotation while Willie Green stays put.
- It was another “Tracy McGrady, Playmaker” night. You can see that his mind is way ahead of his body.
- Ivan Johnson shows hard off screens, which is good, but he tends to linger too long on the perimeter and fails to get back to his man in time. He’d be a much better pick-and-roll defender if he had more awareness in that situation because he’s certainly quick enough to cover a lot of ground after the show.
- Radmanovic’s minutes in the power rotation provided evidence of why he belongs on the wing. Then again, his defensive awareness and energy on the perimeter leaves him vulnerable to giving up unchallenged 3s (See Bonner, Matt). Vlad Rad now appears to be in some kind of funk.
- Word is the Hawks won’t practice tomorrow in Detroit. Hoping I can still find a way to catch up with them before Friday’s shootaround.
Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat
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truth
January 26th, 2012
7:41 am
lol it was 57-54 Spurs then i turn the channel for less than 2 minutes.. All of a sudden its 65-54..
vava74
January 26th, 2012
7:55 am
http://popcornmachine.net/cgi-bin/gameflow.cgi?date=20120125&game=ATLSAS
“Severely out-coached” summarizes what happened.
Even without watching the game one can see through that link that we made a push to start the 3rd and Pop made major adjustments pulling immediately a bunch of starters, leading to a major surge by SAS that broke the game open.
(When did LD ever pulled his starters ONE MINUTE into the third like Pop did???)
Pop went “inside-out” by swapping Blair for Bonner and Bonner stitched us from 3 point land.
There was no counter move by Drew when he saw Pop introduce a big who plays from outside and that lost us the game.
It’s not rocket science.
vava74
January 26th, 2012
8:01 am
Also, this is EXACTLY AS WE LOST IN SAN ANTONIO LAST YEAR.
EXACTLY: Pop went for the outside artillery and broke the game open last year just like this.
See last year’s game:
http://popcornmachine.net/cgi-bin/gameflow.cgi?date=20101210&game=ATLSAS
Pop takes Duncan out and puts in Bonner who although only scored one 3 pointer, was there to spread the defense allowing George Hill and Richard Jefferson to go 4/5 from 3 point land in the 4th quarter.
LD did not learn from his past mistakes.
Mike is Back
January 26th, 2012
8:08 am
What’s up MC, not much to say…you covered it all…gotta take this one with a grain of salt and move on. I was kind of surprise we didn’t go after Jefferson early and try to get him in foul trouble.
Doc, I know it wasn’t a Texas Two Step this time…But can a brotha get some dancing lesson.lol
WE STILL 500 on the road trip…KEEP GOING HAWKS…LET’S GO….LET’S GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ray
January 26th, 2012
8:09 am
Okay this game had some of the worse officiating ever that I’ve seen in my lifetime. Still even though that may be it doesn’t excuse the fact that people weren’t trying to attack to rim our mindset is weak we should have been going inside-out just like the spurs bait them into the foul calls you know.
Josh I know you hate being that guy that gets picked on more than any other person if you read this give us a reason not to do so. You and Jeff Teague are my favorite players on the team.
That said though I know one thing Joe Johnson needs to get called out the $120 million dollar man barely gets called on playing horrible, but when everything is okay he’s the best player on the floor which I beg to differ on.
Trojan
January 26th, 2012
8:15 am
Teague is the best player right now. JJ is off somehow. We need a real center. That position is killing us. Kirk should only backup Teague and should get some minutes at SG, slidding JJ to sf.
Sund needs to get a center on the roster.
Gerald
January 26th, 2012
8:19 am
This game pretty much went as I expected. The Spurs always seem to have our number, especially in San Antonio. The last time I remember the Hawks defeating the Spurs was in that overtime game where Horford dunked on Duncan. It’s been a long time since the Hawks have defeated the Spurs. They play very smart team basketball and Pop is by far the best coach in the league when it comes to getting the most out of his players and getting them to play to their strengths. Everyone on the floor for the Spurs seemed to do something positive.
I expected for the Spurs length inside to give us problems, and I expected for their frontcourt to win the game for them. I didn’t think we’d get blown out or that Matt Bonner would hit so many threes, but I expected this game to be a loss, anyway. This is the type of game where not having Horford really hurts. We are short on quality big men, and it was clear that the Hawks had nothing inside on either the offensive or defensive end against most of the Spurs bigs, other than maybe Blair. Horford and Smith have the mobility to not only chase around the stretch 4’s like Bonner, and Horford has the ability to defend guys like Duncan and Splitter. If we would have had a healthy roster, this probably would have been a closer game, but our lack of bigs was really exploited tonight. Ivan just didn’t have the length to contend with Duncan and Splitter, and Zaza is just too immobile to handle guys like Blair and Bonner. Not to mention, none of our bigs could really score inside against the Spurs front line.
If we continue to keep the team as is, while Horford is out, I think we are going to struggle against all teams that have decent size and mobile big men. Josh is the only healthy guy left on the roster to both defend inside and outside against mobile big men, and he often struggles to defend the more physical big men inside since they overpower him or shoot over him if they have enough length. Zaza can defend the slower big guys who like to bang inside, and Collins excels at defending power players in the post, but we don’t really have any versatile big men when it comes to defense on the roster other than Horford and Smith, and with Horford out, that leaves us with only Smith.
I really think we need to get another reliable big man, even after Horford returns, we could really use another quality rotation player that can play the 5. I worry about the Hawks against elite teams, especially now when we are even more shorthanded inside without Big Al. We have really only beated one winning team since Horford went down (portland), and that team that we beat had a losing record on the road. Look at whom we’ve beaten since Horford went down. We defeated Charlotte who now has the worst record in the eastern conference. We defeated (barely) Minnesota, who is a perennial lottery team. We beat Toronto, another losing team, which didn’t even have it’s best player at the time. We beat Cleveland, a team that the NBA TV analysts were calling “chicken soup”. We beat Milwaukee, a gritty team who has been playing better lately, but still, another losing team. Portland is the only team we have beaten without Horford that you could argue is a quality opponent, and they haven’t even been a good road team at all this season. Against the 2 winning teams we’ve played on the road (Philadelphia and San Antonio), we’ve been blown out. Luckily, there are a lot of subpar teams that we can feast on in order to make the players with a 6-8 seed, but how effective will we really be once we have to face a winning team in the playoffs?
This isn’t even all about the team being less effective without Horford, I feel like even with Horford, we may struggle to beat winning teams when it counts. We’d certainly have a better chance of doing that with Horford, but regardless, we need to make some adjustments to our personnel and upgrade the roster, and maybe even the coaching staff if there are any quality candidates out there.
Trojan
January 26th, 2012
8:22 am
Can you imagine how bad JJ’s contract will seem in a couple of years if he continues to age. His game is slipping.
Gerald
January 26th, 2012
8:24 am
Corrections on my last post: “beated” (lol) was supposed to be “beaten”
Also, I meant to say “there are a lot of subpar teams that we can feast on in order to make the *playoffs*…”
HoosierHawk
January 26th, 2012
8:33 am
Yikes…… look at the bench’s +/- in the game. Atrocious.
Sideline Dude
January 26th, 2012
9:13 am
Why won’t the NBA just go away. A bunch of overpaid thugs.
rollow lawson
January 26th, 2012
9:16 am
Sign Rasheed Wallace!! Sign somebody!!!
O'Brien
January 26th, 2012
9:21 am
Losing is one thing, but the way we lost is just terrible.
Bonner shot 60% from 3 last year, and the Spurs have attempted a lot of 3’s this year. But yet we didn’t do a good job of staying on them. Poor execution/effort on defense by our players, and there is no excuse. And our offense still gets off track at key moments. Not enough ball movement, too many jumpers etc.
I hope Rick is paying attention, because this team needs another decent big on the bench. I like the effort from ZaZa and Ivan, but they are just not good enough at times. Some suggest waiting until the trade deadline (March?), but March might be too late.
Our February schedule is brutal. 13 games in 29 days. Memphis, Philly, Phoenix, Pacers, @ Orlando, Miami, @ LAL, @ Phoenix, @ Portland, @ Chicago, @ Knicks, Orlando, GS.
Hawks could easily go 6-7 in those games. And what happens if there is not a good deal to be found at the deadline. Then what? We hope Kenyon Martin signs w/ us? That’s not enough.
O'Brien
January 26th, 2012
9:23 am
LD didn’t coach a good game either (imo). He rides the starters sometimes when he doesn’t have to (imo), and last night when he needed to ride the starters (especially Jeff), he decides to ride the bench despite the terrible results. On nights when we’re playing back to back, I understand, but today is an off day.
Or how about playing Teague, Kirk and JJ on the court at the same time? Try something different LD.
I’ve said this before. When a team is playing bad, a good coach knows how to adjust, or press the right buttons. But on this team, when the players are not executing, more often than not LD looks powerless (which is exactly how Woody used to be). I think LD has improved compared to last year, but he still has a looooong way to go (imo).
O'Brien
January 26th, 2012
9:26 am
I am not giving up on the Hawks, because they are a better team over last year. And last night, Nets beat the Sixers, and Detroit had a chance to tie Miami at the buzzer. So these things happen.
But last night was another opportunity to show some mental toughness, and they didn’t. LD had a chance to show how good a coach he can be, and he didn’t. Very disappointing all the way around.
cdog
January 26th, 2012
9:26 am
KIRK HINRICH IS DISRUPTING THE HAWKS CHEMISTRY.HE’S A LOSER. JANERO PARGO WAS PLAYING GOOD BUT FOR SOME REASON LARRY DREW HAS PUT HINRICH INTO THE LINEUP INSTEAD OF HIM.HINRICH IS A WASHINGTON WIZARD WHO HAS GOTTEN USE TO LOSING.IN THE FOURTH QUARTER WITH THE HAWKS GETTING BLOWN OUT, YOU WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THE HAWKS WERE WINNING WAS ON THE BENCH GRINNING AND HAVING A GOOD TIME.HE’S A LOSER AND A RICK SUND CLONE.FINALLY, SOMEONE PLEASE TELL JOSH SMITH NOT TO SHOOT THE BALL WHEN THE TEAM NEEDS BASKETS.HE’S TOO STUPID TO REALIZE HE’S NOT A SHOOTER.SITTING HIM DOWN WOULD CURE THIS.
PMC
January 26th, 2012
9:32 am
These kind of losses have happened to virtually every team this year. Not that big a deal, just a bad night. I just wish they could win out there sometime soon. 15 in a row now.
Astro Joe
January 26th, 2012
9:46 am
northcyde, please check your email messages BEFORE making another Fantasy League transaction.
The Truth
January 26th, 2012
10:06 am
“The Hawks aren’t enamored with the available free-agent centers and their trade options are limited. Look for them to make a run at Kenyon Martin when FIBA releases him from his Chinese contract once the Xinjiang Flying Tigers wrap up their season late next month.” – MC
Instead of pursuing Martin, I would rather see the Hawks pursue Jordan Hill from Houston since they didn’t pickup his option. He should be easily available in a trade. He’s longer (6′10″ vs 6′9″), younger (24 vs. 34), less injury prone, and overall, and a better “glue guy”.
Since Houston is trying to dump salary for a max player, we could offer an expiring Hinrich for Hill and Thabeet. After this season, the Hawks would then have the option to dump Thabeet if he doesn’t pan out. We throw in a 2nd rd pick for incentive, works on trade machine.
Pursue this option only if the Hawks can’t find a better upgrade than Kenyon Martin.
vava74
January 26th, 2012
10:07 am
O’Brien
January 26th, 2012
9:23 am
co-sign
vava74
January 26th, 2012
10:10 am
I also like Jordan Hill. He is the type of guy who will work his butt off doing dirty work down low and PROBABLY can be obtained for an acceptable cost.
Also, he is still a bit under the radar since his playing time has not been significant.
Note: don’t expect him to come in and be brilliant – there is a reason why HOU were below .500 with him and are above with Dalembert (who I don’t particularly like, but who is a vet).
Hill is still very green, but his upside is high and could be a good complementary big for us.
Jase
January 26th, 2012
10:25 am
I’m tired of everybody making excuses for this team. Mediocrity shouldn’t be excepted!!!!!! Everybody need to step there game up the Owners,GM,Players and everybody that works for the team and people that cover the team. We need a championship atmosphere!!!!!! GO HAWKS!!!!!!! It’s time to show and prove baby!!!!!
doc
January 26th, 2012
10:27 am
o’b they could go as low as 3-10 in the month of february. i hope for 6-7. if we are close to .500 in february we are a good team, above that and maybe a legit contender as those are many teams that are playoff quality, equal road and away games and every ither night schedule which makes for similar look to post season. oy difference is break for all star game. if we break above .500 for the month folks better sit up and support these guys, start buying some tickets and join me at the phiilps.
FreshmakerGT
January 26th, 2012
10:30 am
Jase, you think a 13 – 6 record and only half a game out of first place is mediocrity?
doc
January 26th, 2012
10:33 am
people get real! do you live in a vacuum? are you stupid? do you look at other teams that are good and see what is happening to them? maguc lose by over twety in boston? lakers lise three in a row?
didnt you see it coming after this delay of start by stern to ruin it for the fans? there are so many non- competitve games this year that one really cant judge any team until the post season arrives and teams play it for real in a cogent manber. this is nba fantasy stern ball this year. new nirmal is next year where the ramifications of the cba can be analyzed. thie year is a joke plain and simple.
Astro Joe
January 26th, 2012
10:41 am
I agree with doc’s gibberish. And thatis why I reject the notion of making a big trade because this is NOT a normal evaluation period for players (especially older guys) or teams. It wouldn’t surprise me if some older guys get a bad grade that may either result in a minimum vet salary next year or even no contract at all, based in part because they struggled with 4 games in 5 days several times a month. Panic moves based on injuries or poor performance could backfire.
Jase
January 26th, 2012
10:44 am
No that’s a great start but the problem is that everybody is wrap up in the regular season I want this team to be build for the post season im tired of my team losing in the second round every year that’s mediocrity!!!!!! Everybody knows that Championship team need two thing a great point guard which we have and just ignore the fact we need a big it’s a joke. Atlanta fans deserve better then that and the city deserve better and I’m going to stay hard on this team until they show me that we can get over the Hump. Go Hawks!!!!!!!
Hawks Fan Down Under
January 26th, 2012
10:46 am
Thought Hinrich played well. But he cant just back up Teague. He’ll need to play SG at some point.
Teague was head and shoulders above anyone else for the Hawks tonight. And to think he was riding the bench just last season…unbelievable. He might win ‘Most Improved Player’ this year but it’d be wrong to give it to him as he hasn’t improved as much as his dumb coach was forced to play him more. Maybe ‘Biggest Increase in Minutes Played Showing How Stupid Your Coach is Award’ maybe.
Will Josh ever learn about jump shots? No. Wait for him to go on a hot streak where everyone praises him and says he’s an All-Star then trade him for a gun center and watch as Josh continues to ebb back and forth and the Hawks finally stop being an up and down team as we won’t ride Josh’s mood swings anymore. Or get a new coach who will actually bench Josh when he does something selfish!!!! Its not hard.
Rev in Tampa
January 26th, 2012
11:00 am
This morning has been very intense with counseling but during my break I scanned the blog. Two things made me laugh:
“KIRK HINRICH IS DISRUPTING THE HAWKS CHEMISTRY… HINRICH IS A WASHINGTON WIZARD WHO HAS GOTTEN USE TO LOSING… HE’S A LOSER AND A RICK SUND CLONE.”
and:
“I agree with doc’s gibberish.”
Rufus1
January 26th, 2012
11:02 am
Suicide Hotline…
Read this blog after a Hawks loss, is like a suicide chat room.
Astro Joe
January 26th, 2012
11:05 am
Rufus & Rev., nothing kills a blog like winning and nothing feeds the blood-thirst like a loss.
SteveW
January 26th, 2012
11:05 am
Astro Joe – Yes, LD gave up draft picks. He kept referring to himself as the one making the trades along with Sund. He was boneheaded enough not to bench Bibby and play Teague.
So yes, LD cost us 2 1st picks – Jordan Crawford and Chris Singleton, and Mo’ Evans, in order to obtain Hinrich.
Sund being the caretaker GM that ASG wants him to be, works with his Coach, not against him.
And LD, since he was fighting with ZaZa, almost cost us him in that Brad Miller trade, which fortunately fell through for us.
And BTW, whats the deal about Brad Miller not playing meaningful minutes in 1.5 years? He played 60 games for Houston last season as a back up Big?
SteveW
January 26th, 2012
11:08 am
Great paragraph by Hawks Fan Down Under about Jeff Teague and how stupid LD was last season.
It reads, “Teague was head and shoulders above anyone else for the Hawks tonight. And to think he was riding the bench just last season…unbelievable. He might win ‘Most Improved Player’ this year but it’d be wrong to give it to him as he hasn’t improved as much as his dumb coach was forced to play him more. Maybe ‘Biggest Increase in Minutes Played Showing How Stupid Your Coach is Award’ maybe.”
Bravo, Bravo, here here my good man!
SteveW
January 26th, 2012
11:11 am
Notorious Josh hater Steve Holman was hilarious to listen to in the 3rd quarter last nite as I was driving. I wish I had a transcript, but some words and phrases used were, “Well Josh just singlehandidly took us out of this game. He’s in total meltdown mode right now. We need to bring somebody in to guard Bonner, because Josh has decided it’s not going to be him”.
It was hilarious radio really.
Rufus1
January 26th, 2012
11:12 am
“Misery loves company, but a happy man sits/blogs alone”
vava74
January 26th, 2012
11:13 am
“Maybe ‘Biggest Increase in Minutes Played Showing How Stupid Your Coach is Award’ ”
SteveW
January 26th, 2012
11:14 am
I think what frustrates us as Hawks fans is we see that we probably have the talent to beat the Spurs, but they get by really on BB IQ, knowing there roles and that’s about it.
It’s really frustrating to lose to teams like that. I know. I’ve lost to a few.
SteveW
January 26th, 2012
11:17 am
Last nite wasn’t just all about Josh, Bonner and the likes – it was were was JJ? We really needed him last nite – and the 7 assists were nice, but I was looking for him to take over that game. JJ doesn’t have a scorer’s mentality. If he misses a few, he gets tenative. Some of these assassins have no conscience, and that’s what makes them a scorer in a scorers League.
Slimjr
January 26th, 2012
11:20 am
This Coach yank Teague 7 freaking minutes into the game for Kirk?
Are you kidding? He was your most effective player on the floor last night..
Unlike your other starters Teague was not intimidated by the opposition!!!
This guy will flourish once he moves on and away from this lousy organization called the Hawks..
Josh, Marvin, and Joe were byoech slapped around last night…..No shot as usual..
Larry just threw up his hands….Gosh darn it!
All NBA would have made little difference with his limited offensive skill set and non existence help defense…..
Rufus1
January 26th, 2012
11:22 am
SteveW,
The Spurs maybe the smartest team in the league and they have the best coach. Losing to them is doesn’t mean we suck. When we lose to by 30 to the Wiz or the Nets, I will with everyone bashing this team….but not atfer a spurs lose on the road.
Astro Joe
January 26th, 2012
11:26 am
Steve, I stand corrected, Miller hasn’t played much in 12 months, not 18.
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/556/brad-miller
GEN MANAGER
January 26th, 2012
11:28 am
I BLAMED LD FOR THIS BLOWOUT,INABILITY TO MAKE THE RIGHT SUBS AT THE RIGHT TIME,ESPECIALLY JS & MW BIENG AROUND THESE PLAYERS FOR SO LONG,HE BASICALLY SHOULD NO WHEN BASED ON THIER PERFORMANCE EARLY IN THE GAME TO PULL THEM OFF THE COURT.
Slimjr
January 26th, 2012
11:32 am
1997 since you beat this team on the road? PATHETIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GARBAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You don’t deserve an ECF visit and this game last light proved that you don’t have the talent or the coaching ability to get there anyway, even with ALL NBA!
That’s why I like to see these Hawks play the Western Conference teams to see they do not measure up and are usually dismantled…It’s like a reality check! You are who you are..Not elite by a long shot..
You cant beat the Clippers, OKC, SPURS, LAKERS, HOUSTON, DENVER, and DALLAS….
Play Miami or Chicago in the playoffs and lets watch reality set in again…….
All NBA aint your savior…Nice try…..
OKC by 25-35 on the road…..
Astro Joe
January 26th, 2012
11:35 am
Slim, so are you saying that all of the other ECF teams in recent history were undefeated against the Western Conference? I was not aware of that prerequisite to be a final 2 team in our conference.
O'Brien
January 26th, 2012
11:37 am
To be clear, I’m not saying the Hawks should make a big trade. All I’m saying is we need another big. Rick just needs to be creative to make it happen (instead of just waiting and hoping that Kenyon Martin signs with us).
But I’m sure they are looking around for a move that might improve the roster blah blah blah.
Doc,
With this crazy schedule, I think seeding may not be as important as prior years either, especially for the older teams (Boston, LAL, Dallas comes to mind). They just want to get to the playoffs somewhat healthy.
SteveW
January 26th, 2012
11:49 am
Rufus – Your right – I ain’t givin’ up on this team either. We have some serious chemistry in a positive direction going on right now, and a lot of talent – I’m just with the one more Big crowd – If we had 1 more halfway serviceable big man, I’d say let’er ride, let’s do this thing.
We’ve got more depth than I can remember – we really need Vlad Rad to step up. The guy looks like a Pro one game, and a scrub for 3. He’s got the talent, that’s evident, I guess the rest is just mental.
Slimjr
January 26th, 2012
11:50 am
Kenyon Martin is an aged Josh 2.0 with less defense…..Huh? Wow!
SteveW
January 26th, 2012
12:00 pm
Astro Joe – Hmm, Brad averaged 10.5 mpg, 6.5 rpg, 3.8 apg, 51.6% shooting in 23 mpg LAST APRIL.
So can you say 8 months and 13 days since his last meaningful contribution? Not 1.5 years (18 months which is over twice as long as the truth), and not 12 months – still missed the truth by over 3.5 months.
Sounds good AJ to make a point, just ain’t the truth.
Now he’s still not back, and I wouldn’t want him unless healthy, but LD evidently thinks enough of him to try and trade ZaZa for him, and I think he could still give 15-20 quality minutes per game if we knew he was healthy.
Rufus1
January 26th, 2012
12:04 pm
I think everyone(All Hawks fans around the World) on this blog agrees the Hawks need another Big.
I will say that I a have faith in Sund, but not ASG, to get us the player we need.
After all those years of wanting a PG, we get one and our center gets hurt….That is the kind of thing, that can break a fans spirit ;(
SteveW
January 26th, 2012
12:05 pm
I still take Kenyon Martin on this team all day long. He may not be exactly what this team needs, but who is, Dwight?
I’ll take his toughness and playoff experience and desire to win all day on the Hawks. He could be close to that missing piece we need.