Atlanta Hawks at Spurs: Game thread
I’m not in San Antonio and neither is Chris Vivlamore. Bob Rathbun is there and he says Kirk Hinrich will play.
Here is a place for you to discuss the game. I will post my two cents when it’s over.
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ClassicHawks
January 25th, 2012
10:51 pm
Have we played a playoff team at home yet and Loss Dante?? Please dont say Miami because we were asleep when they knew Lebron and Bosh didnt play. Cmon duke, listen to what you are saying. We have one loss at home and we are .500 on the road. take that all day!
ag
January 25th, 2012
10:51 pm
Coach Drew has to be able to make better decisions. Teague and Marvin actually played well. Teague’s assist numbers are so low because most of the guys fail to finish on his passes.
kwooden
January 25th, 2012
10:51 pm
I didn’t watch the game, but I still can’t understand why LD didn’t put Collins in on Splitter. It’s another example of these guys not knowing their own personnel! I just don’t get why a fan can see this but paid coaches can’t!!
ClassicHawks
January 25th, 2012
10:53 pm
Only games I have been disappointed in the Hawks and thought they lose because of there energy, etc was Miami and Philly. Thats it. Thats an improvement from what they were. LD is a good coach and there buying in to his philosophy, trust that.
Donte
January 25th, 2012
10:53 pm
hittman jamillion – is that the average hawks blogger excuse now??? “but but look at the Lakers…”
This isnt your grandfather’s Lakers team. The 2011-2012 Lakers are a damn 1st or 2nd round team themselves, and now they are the “bar” for the Hawks. Just Pathetic!
Najeh Davenpoop
January 25th, 2012
10:53 pm
It’s not all doom and gloom. The Hawks beat the Blazers without Al and beat the Bulls and Heat with him. Their ceiling isn’t any higher than the 2nd round, but they are better than last year. But they absolutely have to upgrade the center position. They cannot continue to roll with Zaza and Ivan playing all 48 minutes there. Against teams with quality depth inside like the Spurs, they will continue to get killed.
Astro Joe
January 25th, 2012
10:54 pm
Hinrich for Nazr is a good one because Nazr is a very solid defender (underrated IMO) and OKC could use an experienced back-up for Westbrook. I think the only trade that works is with a team that needs a back-up PG as much as they want an expiring contract. But I would still wait until closer to the trade deadline before pulling the trigger on anything. Hawks would have been expected to lose in San Antonio if Horford were healthy and Kevin Willis was coming off the bench wearing his elbow pads.
Slimjr
January 25th, 2012
10:54 pm
February is a killer sched! This maybe a prelude to whats to come? We wont have to wait much longer…
Larry is off the chain….
Mark
January 25th, 2012
10:55 pm
ClassicHawks, Elite win or at least compete against good teams on the road. We get embarrassed. This team might get to the second round. Think about it, we have MARVIN and ZAZA as starters along with “Heartless” Joe and “Dumb” Josh. That type of GUTTER TRASH won’t win a championship.
ClassicHawks
January 25th, 2012
10:56 pm
Lakers Vs. Clippers on, holla at you disgruntled MFer’s later on!
Najeh Davenpoop
January 25th, 2012
10:56 pm
Kirk for JaVale McGee — but this probably requires both the Hawks AND the Lakers sending a pick to Washington, which may not be worth it.
Astro Joe
January 25th, 2012
10:56 pm
kwooden, Splitter is much, much too agile for Collins. That would not have worked. Collins is only effective against literally a handful of guys in this league.
ClassicHawks
January 25th, 2012
10:58 pm
Can win a championship with a seasoned Teague, a Center and Al Horford. We need to buy in to Philosophy and play hard every game, which I have been seeing. Then next year we will be primed to win a title. Just my thoughts and hopes.
Jase
January 25th, 2012
10:58 pm
MC let me ask you a question do the hawks front office realize that we need a center.
Donte
January 25th, 2012
10:58 pm
hittman jamillion – is that your bar for the Hawks this year? The Lakers? This isnt your grandfather’s Lakers. I dont give a (censored) about how they’re doing this year. The 2011-2012 Lakers are a 1st or 2nd round exit themselves with their current roster and coach. Typical Hawks Bloggers making illogical excuses. The CORE HAS A 2ND ROUND CEILING !!!!
Mark
January 25th, 2012
10:59 pm
ClassicHawks, Elite Teams win or at least compete against good teams on the road. We get embarrassed. This team might get to the second round. Think about it, we have MARVIN and ZAZA as starters along with “Heartless” Joe and “Dumb” Josh. That type of GUTTER TRASH won’t win a championship. Not to mention a Pathetic/Pea Brain Coach. We take ill advised shots and lose focus. We have talent and if we had the HEART and BRAINS we could actually do something, but we are just basketball team that is entertaining. To the rest of the league the Hawks are a bunch of JOKES.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 25th, 2012
11:00 pm
” I think the only trade that works is with a team that needs a back-up PG as much as they want an expiring contract.”
I have Kirk going to the Lakers in all those trades, with the Lakers sending a pick to the 3rd team and the 3rd team sending the Hawks a big man. The Lakers have an $8 million trade exception and a glaring need for a point guard. It makes too much sense for them not to be interested in Kirk.
Donte
January 25th, 2012
11:01 pm
Good teams beat us as bad as they would the Wizards or Bobcats. It’s embarrassing. The Hawks play a very DUMB brand of basketball, let by Josh Smith on the offensive in.
Scrooge McDuck
January 25th, 2012
11:01 pm
Played a good team again… outrebounded again… blown away in the 3rd quarter again.
But but but I thought they were better without Horford?!?!?!
Jase
January 25th, 2012
11:02 pm
We need to have a win now attitude.
Slimjr
January 25th, 2012
11:03 pm
All NBA would have to transform into Kevin Garnett to have a shot at a title playing the 4 spot…No shot
Donte
January 25th, 2012
11:05 pm
All NBA
All Star
2x Champ
………………………………………..still 2nd round exit
(censored) these (censored) losers.
Break up the Core, it doesnt work against good teams!!!!
Slimjr
January 25th, 2012
11:07 pm
The Ownership
Sund
Larry
are not Championship material. So why would this team be anything else?
kwooden
January 25th, 2012
11:07 pm
Joe, it doesn’t matter that Splitter is more agile because he’s still a soft Euro and Collins would get in his way. Soft Euros can become tough Euros against shorter competition, but very few if any get tough against physical competition. I don’t think Collins could have stopped him but its better than putting a 6′ 8″ guy against him.
Scrooge McDuck
January 25th, 2012
11:07 pm
“According to Forbes, #Hawks franchise worth $270 million, No. 28 of 30″
And this is with a pretty damn nice (and relatively new) arena. Think about that.
Astro Joe
January 25th, 2012
11:08 pm
Pop calls TO with 1 minute gone in 3rd quarter and benches FOUR STARTERS. At the time, they were up by 4. Hawks were down by 9 with their starters playing against mostly the Spurs second unit before LD brought in some bench players. They were still down by 9 when Josh received a technical foul. After that, game over as the Spurs went up by 15 to end the quarter. The startes lost the momentum when Pop put in Bonner, Splitter, Leonard and Joseph against OUR starters with 11:00 minutes left in the 3rd. Don’t fool yourselves, our starters didn’t play well as a unit. Had it not been for that 2nd quarter rush, this game would have been over much earlier.
Donte
January 25th, 2012
11:08 pm
All we needed tonight besides a pretend super star, and low IQ Power Forward’s poor shot selection was……………….Big Al’s jump shooting. Yeah thats the difference. Yeah Right.
People we just beat the Bucks on a JOSH SMITH 3 Pointers. Teams would take that from us all day (Josh Smith perimeter shots). This team is not working.
Scrooge McDuck
January 25th, 2012
11:11 pm
They aren’t getting out of the first round without Horford. Can’t depend on Josh… he’s about as about as consistent as Georgia weather.
Jase
January 25th, 2012
11:12 pm
This team gives me headache sometime.
Donte
January 25th, 2012
11:13 pm
Hey Clueless Sheeple, We only do well, generally, against teams that play average to poor defense so then Joe can dribble dribble dribble in to the lane and do a floater and where Josh Smith can heave those ugly shots at the rim and pray they go in or get a put back. That BS isnt working against good teams, You people are nuts. Break up the core or bust.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 25th, 2012
11:13 pm
19 rebounds in 27 minutes for Ersan Ilyasova today. He doesn’t play center but I’d love to have him on the bench.
Rufus1
January 25th, 2012
11:14 pm
I see the “Only when the Hawks lose” bloggers are out tonight….
I was looking for you during the Bucks game, but we won.
Donte
January 25th, 2012
11:17 pm
I love how big games against teams like the Bucks translates into “Hey we might actually be a pretty good team that can contend, Josh Smith is a beast and Joe is coming around” for so many posters lol. Even though we rarely perform against the top level teams. IDIOTS.
Reality Check
January 25th, 2012
11:18 pm
Josh is an idiot, got schooled by a team full of high IQ players. Just like Drew got outcoached again. Nothing to see here, this franchise is a joke, just like you high school ddropoouts who keep making excuses.
Apple
January 25th, 2012
11:20 pm
“15-yrs and counting. Last #Hawks win in San Antonio, starting lineup was Henry James, Laettner, Mutombo, Steve Smith & Mookie – 1997″
Lol wow
kwooden
January 25th, 2012
11:21 pm
Joe, Pop and his staff are better coaches and that was my biggest fear coming in this game. I believe LD is an upgrade over Woody, but that’s just because Woody didn’t make any adjustments during a game. LD and his staff still don’t have a great feel for personnel or for game flow. The Spurs aren’t a great team, which is probably why Miami destroyed them earlier this month, but they do have a great coaching staff. Hopefully we can really learn from this game.
GO HAWKS!!
Donte
January 25th, 2012
11:22 pm
Rufus1, wow? Did we really beat the Bucks??? We did? That’s (censored) great!!! on a Josh Smith 3 pointer? That’s a dependable weapon in our arsenal, right? The Josh Smith Dagger 3!! Boy, that’s a bread and butter possession we can count on nightly!!!!
Winning against the Bucks and Bobcats means squat when you get blown out in 3 of your last 4 games against good teams. Some of you are blind optimists and settle for less. Sorry, I’m not a supporter of the “well at least we can still beat the (insert scrub team here) crowd”
Beat or at least look like worth competition against good teams on a more consistence basis and I’d be happy!
Scrooge McDuck
January 25th, 2012
11:24 pm
I’m reading through the thread. You all want credit for beating the terrible Bucks? LOL… How about the Nets? Wizards? Didn’t DASG say the motto is “no excuses”? You fans/apologists are setting the bar pretty damn low.
Donte
January 25th, 2012
11:26 pm
Scrooge – Exactly. It’s a joke.
tyger
January 25th, 2012
11:26 pm
Same ole Hawks…
They can only beat the weak teams…
Nothing to get excited about here…
Bigman needed
January 25th, 2012
11:28 pm
Destroyed inside, in the paint and on the boards tonight. Shots didnt fall and we have inferiority complex with this team in that building, but Too much length on the spurs. Too
little for the hawks. Tim duncan hardly played and still got 11 boards.
Heinrich should not have played in this one until garbage time, mistake
Apple
January 25th, 2012
11:28 pm
“I love how big games against teams like the Bucks translates into “Hey we might actually be a pretty good team that can contend, Josh Smith is a beast and Joe is coming around” for so many posters lol. Even though we rarely perform against the top level teams. IDIOTS.”
Someone pass the collection plate, nothing but the truth right here.
Donte
January 25th, 2012
11:30 pm
The performance tonight is the “rule” for the Hawks against good teams, games where Josh Smith and Joe Johnson produce against these type of teams are the “exception to the rule”
Now watch all these friggin losers on the blog get excited when Josh Smith “stuffs the stat sheet” against the joke Hornets or even makes a 3 pointer the next time we play a decent team and start acting like it means something special. If they cant do it consistently and against good teams it doesnt mean squat. Worthless Core, Worthless Owners. Clueless Blog Fans.
Soullrenaissance
January 25th, 2012
11:31 pm
Why did Hinrich take away minutes from Teague – JT0 was the only bright spot of the game. Hinrich understandably played horrible as far as turnovers went. Hinrich should have play the two today. Sund needs to trade him for a big ASAP. In the meantime Hinrich should see even more reduced minutes….Nothing else to see here, just another disgusting road loss to a great basketball team.
Rufus1
January 25th, 2012
11:32 pm
Donte,
I don’t want credit for beating the Bucks. I just don’t want to see you post only when we LOSE! Their are enough LOW SELF ESTEEM Hawks fans that post every day, so we don’t need any more PART TIME HATERS!
Apple
January 25th, 2012
11:34 pm
Folks are going to have to get over the hatred of Horford. He doesn’t have moves like McHale, but he’s still amongst the league leaders in FG % every year, he can get double-digit rebounds, and he plays smart on both ends. People who know basketball know his value. Without him, you’re depending on Jason freaking Collins, nothing else needs to be said.
Bigman needed
January 25th, 2012
11:34 pm
We finally figured outma way to stop parker, teague playing good D. But we had no answer for duncan even though he is in his twighlight, splitter or matt bonner.
Got to make a move
Kaman not on hornets roster tonight- dont know why
Astro Joe
January 25th, 2012
11:34 pm
kwooden, saying that a coaching staff is inferior to the Spurs is like saying that a basketball player doesn’t shoot as well as Kevin Durant. You can’t win them all.
Lakers announcers refer to the player formerly known as Ron Artest as MWP. Laughable.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 25th, 2012
11:37 pm
“Without him, you’re depending on Jason freaking Collins, nothing else needs to be said.”
I like Al, but this statement says more about the terrible depth behind Al than it does about Al himself.
Scrooge McDuck
January 25th, 2012
11:45 pm
Some of us criticize even when they beat bad teams because sometimes, it isn’t pretty. Like the Minnesota game. The bottom line is, just like every other team in this state, they haven’t proven they can beat the good teams regularly, and that’s why they don’t take the next step. The public has a right to complain because we see the ceiling and know when the teams aren’t ready for primetime.