Atlanta Hawks: Hawks 97, Bucks 92

Milwaukee–The Hawks really didn’t solve their issues with holding second-half leads. They still had too many bad possessions, still gave up too many rebounds, and still had too many turnovers at key times.

  • But they also had Joe Johnson, who took over after a rough opening half. In this league, sometimes when a lot of things aren’t going right a team just needs its best player to make plays. Joe did it tonight in spite of Stephen Jackson and Co.’s best efforts to slow him.
  • “I just tried to alter my focus a little bit coming into tonight,” Joe said, “understanding that these five road games are very important and without Al [Horford] we all have to step up and do just a little more.”
  • Joe said he got it going on a play call in the third quarter that got him into the lane. From there, he showed off his ball-handling skills and all-court game. “That’s why I gave him the ball every time down,” Jeff Teague said. “He was just making plays like an All-Star should. He’s almost unguardable. He can dribble, he can shoot midrange, he can get to the cup. Just get the ball in his hands and he goes.”
  • “You’ve got to milk the cow until there is no milk left,” Josh Smith said. “They was beating on him all night and he showed so much resilience. He didn’t stop playing, played hard and kept adding physicality on his end. It’s just good to see when your leader is able to lead like that.”
  • Joe (and Teague and Josh) played all 24 minutes after halftime. “The one thing I wanted to do in the second half was get him into a rhythm,” Larry Drew said. “I had my mind made up I was going to ride him in the second half.”
  • Josh had another All-Star line: 19 points, 13 rebounds, four assists, three blocked shots, no turnovers. And, of course, that dagger 3 from the corner with four seconds on the shot clock.
  • Josh said he didn’t know it was going to swing around to him: “I was ready for it, though. I just cherish moments when guys give me the opportunity and put the trust in me. I feel obligated not to let them down. ”
  • Teague probably could have shot or made a play off the dribble but instead passed to Josh when Ersan Ilyasova came off of him. “I’ve got confidence in Smoove,” Teague said.
  • That sequence was set up when Johnson drew a double team and passed to Teague on the weak side. “We broke down a little but but Joe puts pressure on you,” Scott Skiles said. “He’s a legitimate 6-8, he collapses the defense and he can see people. He made a nice pass out, Teague made a nice play and Josh knocked it down.”
  • That play, Joe’s six free throws in the final 16.7 seconds and Marvin Williams’ deflection of Mike Dunleavy’s pass) salvaged what had been another lackluster offensive fourth quarter for the Hawks. “We had some bad stretches in the fourth quarter, but we kept fighting,” Drew said. “When they took the lead in the fourth quarter, it was a chance for us to see what we are made of. Our guys persevered and Josh came up with the three and Joe was absolutely phenomenal.”
  • Atlanta defended Milwaukee well in the fourth quarter but gave up five offensive rebounds.
  • The Hawks got a nice road W in a rough-and-tumble game. The Bucks tried to muck it up and Josh and Zaza Pachulia (14 rebounds, five personal fouls) were up to the task. It was pretty physical around the basket, similar to the game at Indy, and the Hawks responded better this time.
  • Teague was excellent in the first half (11 points on five shots, four rebounds). He struggled after halftime: Brandon Jennings rubbed him off screens too easily and kept picking his pocket.
  • Marvin never really got into the flow offensively, so he played 22 minutes to Tracy McGrady’s 26.
  • T-Mac missed some clean looks but it’s kind of fun to watch him when he’s in playmaker mode (five assists, no turnovers). Sometimes it looks like he’s dribbling aimlessly into trouble but then suddenly he’s passing to a teammate for a good look. His athleticism has declined but he has plus court vision and instincts and also always seems to come up with a couple key rebounds.
  • Vladimir Radmanovic reversed recent trends by making shots (2 of 3 3-pointers) and not adding much else in the box score in his eight minutes. Give Jannero Pargo credit for his ability to get his shot off when the offense is bogged down.
  • Ivan Johnson got second-half burn but was quickly pulled when he took a quick J in the fourth quarter.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

279 comments Add your comment

Bigman needed

January 24th, 2012
1:18 pm

They want to give most improved to ryan anderson, but i agree jeff has been very good and played excellent defense, deserves consideration. Sweet assist to josh for game winning 3 last night

drmaryeb.[*_*].

January 24th, 2012
1:21 pm

who did Flip Saunders coach for? on my laptop today and to lazy to punctuate – sorry

KevinM

January 24th, 2012
1:21 pm

Bulls are looking at bringing back Oberto to back up Noah….are they not satisfied with Asik?

Where are ya Sund? Anything….

KevinM

January 24th, 2012
1:22 pm

DMB, Flip was the Wiz coach…

And correct me if I’m wrong, but are you trying to get your hands on T-Mac? :) Sounds like you want to check out his condition.

Joe Mama

January 24th, 2012
1:52 pm

darrell starks Al brings nothing to the 4 position but average play. Why on earth, would you want to move Josh from the 4 to make room for Al ? That has proven to be a chemistry issue and it cogs down the offense.

Not the best move.

Al is better coming off the bench to help the new center or Josh, or even better use in a trade scenario.

You don’t down grade a position’s talent level to incorporate your favorite player.

Moreover, it’s going to be quite a while before Al with return to his career numbers, 12pts,9rbs. Until that time Al should not start. Like Hinrich, with Teague Al should earn and work his way back to the rotation and line up. Zaza is playing great and so is Ivan. When Al gets back from the prone injured list he will just be another big sitting on the bench. Don’t expect Al to put in any meaningful numbers, this year.

You may want to understand the severity of the injury and the time line back to peak playing performance level. I don’t expect much from Al, this year. Some players never make it back to there previous levels, not that 12pts 9 rebounds is a high level. What im saying is Al has to make it back and earn his way. His return to his career levels is not a given.

Earning his way back may change his controversial attitude of ” I want to play this position or that position” to a ” I just want to play” attitude that works better in a team environment and keeps the fights down in the locker.

Thumbs down on moving Jsmoove out of his position to appease Al’s persistence.

What ever happened to whats best for the team?

Joe Mama

January 24th, 2012
1:56 pm

*Some players never make it back to their previous levels,

Joe Mama

January 24th, 2012
1:58 pm

*Moreover, it’s going to be quite a while before Al will return to his career numbers, 12pts,9rbs.

Bigman needed

January 24th, 2012
2:02 pm

From the washington post:

EnMaybe someday, the Washington Wizards will get serious about rebuilding. To this point, they’ve only dabbled in it unsuccessfully. Until owner Ted Leonsis moves on without Andray Blatche, JaVale McGee and Nick Young, he’s not truly committed to winning.

Leonsis sets the agenda. He instructed Washington’s basketball staff to start over and build through the draft. Ultimately, it will be his call to finally give up on Blatche, McGee and Young — most likely for little or nothing in return — after years of investing heavily in them. The correct choice is clear.
Granted, dumping three core players, none of whom has turned 27, would be difficult for any owner. Typically, that’s not how things are done in professional sports. The Wizards’ bleak situation, however, requires bold action. Beginning anew next season without three current high-profile starters who don’t get it, and probably never will, would be just that.

Blatche, McGee and Young no longer fit with what the Wizards claim they hope to become. They’re holdovers from an era the franchise should forget. Washington’s “New Traditions” slogan is just empty words unless management finally ends the long-running tomfoolery.

McGee provided the latest head-shaking example this past week.

The Wizards were ridiculed again nationally after McGee’s stunningly clueless decision to go for a look-at-me dunk in another eventual loss. That’s not what Washington needs during its franchise-worst start.

“The situation we’re in,” Coach Flip Saunders said recently, “you don’t want to draw attention to yourself.”

Obviously, the message hasn’t gotten through to McGee. Or he just doesn’t learn from his major mistakes. Either way, they keep happening.

How does someone lobby for votes on Twitter after his team drops to 0-7, as McGee did, and also go the showboat dunk route late during another defeat all in the same season, let alone the same month? Exactly what inspires such bad judgment?

Then again, it’s not surprising. McGee’s excitement after completing his wrongheaded quest for his first triple-double in a 19-point loss last season indicated exactly what’s most important to him.

McGee doesn’t do anything in “a malicious way,” Saunders said. And Saunders uses the missteps as “a learning experience.” So when will McGee’s learning begin?

Obviously, Wizards officials prefer to focus on the 7-footer’s age (he turned 24 on Thursday), his off-the-charts athleticism and improving statistics.

Just based on the numbers, McGee is more than a keeper. He’s someone the Wizards should build around.

But this isn’t fantasy basketball.

In the NBA, you actually have to know how to play to help your team win, and it seems that part doesn’t interest McGee as much as the highlight-tape stuff. After playing in almost 230 games, there’s no way McGee should still be so ineffective at pick-and-roll defense. His head isn’t in the game nearly enough.

From what I hear, McGee is a good egg off the court. He doesn’t cause trouble in the locker room. Unfortunately for McGee, he’s growing up in an organization in which those in charge have looked the other way too often.ter your comments here

New Core

January 24th, 2012
2:04 pm

“Joe (and Teague and Josh) played all 24 minutes after halftime. “The one thing I wanted to do in the second half was get him into a rhythm,” Larry Drew said. “I had my mind made up I was going to ride him in the second half.”

It would be nice to put a film clip of that swing around dagger 3 from jj to teague to smoove on the highlight reel.

It personifies the New Core.

Bigman needed

January 24th, 2012
2:11 pm

Washington post piece titled: blatche, young and mcgee must go and gives me serious doubts about bringing in someone like mcgee

Joe Mama

January 24th, 2012
2:20 pm

“in the NBA, you actually have to know how to play to help your team win, and it seems that part doesn’t interest McGee as much as the highlight-tape stuff. After playing in almost 230 games, there’s no way McGee should still be so ineffective at pick-and-roll defense. His head isn’t in the game nearly enough.”

Cosigning

McGee has all the skills and physical tools but , I don’t see the desire. Almost the same with 6′ 10″ 250lbs Al Horford.

All the physical tools with out the desire.

In the words of Benjamen Franklin. ” hunger is the best pickle” – Poor Richards Almanac

Astro Joe

January 24th, 2012
2:25 pm

Bigman needed, the reports of McGee’s immaturity are as long and high as his standing reach and vertical leap. If he could accept a role as rim defender and fast break finisher, then it could be worth the risk. That teams is full of guys who are focused on their stats and highlight-worthy plays and don’t seem to be interested in winning plays. Could he make the transition to a playoff-culture with the Hawks?

Astro Joe

January 24th, 2012
2:26 pm

Joe Mama, did you just compare McGee’s mentality to Horford’s? Please tell me that I misunderstood.

O'Brien

January 24th, 2012
2:29 pm

Joe Mama,

Putting Horford and McGee in the same sentence makes no sense. One guy won 2 national championships in college, is a 2 time all-star, was named all NBA, and has helped his team get to the playoffs every year since he has been in the NBA.

The other guy has done nothing, except play on bad teams, exhibits a mer first attitude, and has run-ins with his head coach.

But you say both Al and McGee have all the physical tools without the desire. No wonder you have no credibility on this blog;

O'Brien

January 24th, 2012
2:36 pm

AJ,

Depending on what the Wiz would want in return, I would take a chance on McGee. Sometimes a change of environment, a winning culture, and players he can look up to can help someone’s maturity.

However, he is in the last year of his deal and will be a restricted FA this offseason. Would you make a run at him at the deadline (if the price is right?).

Although the ASG’s history tells us that they would not make such a risky move for McGee. They dont want anyone to rock the boat.

Section 303

January 24th, 2012
2:49 pm

I don’t know about bringing in McGee from Washington. I don’t think the Hawks need to add someone that really does not know how to play, yet. If the Hawks are going to add anyone, make it someone who can help the team win right now. Not a headcase like McGee. Who is talented, but is spotty with his effort and still does d-bag moves (ie: throwing the ball off the backboard and dunking while his own team is getting blown out).

kwooden

January 24th, 2012
2:52 pm

Personally, I hope the best for McGee, but he’s on track to be like Kwame Brown. Brown and McGee have great physical gifts and raw talent. But they both have problems consistently putting that talent to work. Brown has never been tough enough mentally to work through games in which he wasn’t shooting well and also really didn’t like to bang down low. McGee consistently blocks shots, but doesn’t keep them in play and almost never moves in the right position to get rebounds. McGee also looks tired all the time, I think he might have some form of asthma. If I were the Wizards I definitely wouldn’t give up on him yet, but as a HAWKS fan I wouldn’t mind having him.

Astro Joe

January 24th, 2012
2:57 pm

McGee is a rim defender, not an elite defender. Two different things. He’s not strong enough to hold his ground against quality post players and probably isn’t overly bright to make the right defensive rotations. He seems to be effective because of his extreme athleticism alone. OB, his QO is probably not prohibitive so the risk would be only for a season and a half. But again, IMO, he would come in as more of a Tree Rollins type than as a “franchise center”.

Rufus1

January 24th, 2012
3:03 pm

Mcgee is a CLOWN…They need to trade him to Boston for Pierce, so he can teach them how to win?

The Wiz should hire Woodson…He wouldn’t tolerate that kind of behavior…Ask Josh.

Joe Mama

January 24th, 2012
3:14 pm

“, exhibits a me first attitude,”

exactly Obrien.

O'Brien

January 24th, 2012
3:23 pm

Didn’t Rasheed Wallace earn a certain rep in Portland? But didn’t he help Det win a title? Didn’t Zach Randolph also earn a certain rep early on his career? How is he doing in Menphis?

People respond differently to different situations, different coaches, different cultures etc., and McGee’s current issues (imo) doesn’t mean he couldn’t change if he got a change of scenery.

And if it doesn’t work out, you trade him. Low risk, high reward (imo), depending on price of course.

Astro Joe

January 24th, 2012
3:30 pm

Javale makes around $2.5M this year and has a QO of $3.5M next year.

A similar column could have been written about some of our players back in 2004-2006. What are the chances that Javale has a polarizing effect like one of our Hawks? What are the chances that he is considered a major fan draw in that city like someone else here? And what are the chances that if we had traded that guy a few years ago, that we would have traded him within the division where we could have watched him return fairly often year-after-year?

Blatche has an awful contract ($23M for 3 years AFTER this season). Wizards will likely require someone take that mess along with McGee.

O'Brien

January 24th, 2012
3:31 pm

Bogut goes 3-10, and finishes with 6 pts, 12 rebs and 4 asissts, going up against our backup center ZaZa, who finished with 9 pts, 14 rebs, and 1 assist.

Meanwhile, Leuer DNP Coach’s decision.

Where is the Bogut and Leur supporter today?

Astro Joe

January 24th, 2012
3:36 pm

OB, the guys you mentioned above were probably closer to 30 YO when they “saw the light”.

Assuming the Wizards buy out Rashard Lewis’ contract (it is unguaranteed next year), they will only have rookie contracts and Blatche on the books. So they could be free agent players next year and worse case, use amnesty to free more cap space with Blatche. So they could conceivably clear house this summer without having to take $.50 on the dollar.

O'Brien

January 24th, 2012
3:43 pm

I think McGee is a better player than Kwame. Kwame’s career high is 11 and 7 in ’03-04, and has never averaged more than 1.2 blocks per game. This year, McGee is averaging 11, 9 and 3, and at only 24 years old, there is still room for improvement.

Anyways, I dont think the ASG would a) take on McGee and his issues and b) be a trade match with Washington.

Somebody else mentioned him, but Phoenix is not going to offer Robin Lopez an extension, so he will be a RFA this offseason. He may be someone the Hawks could target, depending on his cost.

I think the Hawks window to get to the ECF is closing. Knicks and Celtics are struggling, while the Pacers and Sixers are getting better. There is uncertainty in Orlando.

JJ is over 30, and who knows when his rapid decline will kick in. Will Josh re-sign when his contract is up? Time to make a move and go for it this year and next (imo).

O'Brien

January 24th, 2012
3:44 pm

AJ,

Although those guys were closer to 30 when they turned it around, the turnaround came when they were with a different team.

W.R. Terrell

January 24th, 2012
3:49 pm

Wednesday’s game against San Antone is what one would call a critical matchup. What we will see out of the HAWKS is anyones guess. The win against Milwaukee showed some resolve. Josh hit some big jump shots and that is scary as all get out. Remember, he was doing that before they ran into Philly and jumped shot us out of that game in the 3rd quarter. Tomorrow could be a disaster, I have the feeling everyone on the team is secretly worried about that. Dwight Gooden hit a three, there’s a lil luck in every game. If Josh rebounds, plays strong inside and give the ball to the guards he could have a good game, if he goes to “I AM THE STAR” mode, then the HAWKS are screwed. I wanted to go see the game but will catch it on the tube. I got some coward in me about spending the money to watch scary play.

brigadierjerry

January 24th, 2012
3:54 pm

That Washington article on Mcgee is a perfect example of why I like players that have skill over athleticism Mcgee has great athleticism but does he know how to play basketball. It is one of the main reasons why players such as Francis and to a lesser extent Marbury and Iverson are out of the leagues. Once their athleticism goes they do not know how to continue to play they normally used to playing and dont change their game to suit their declining athleticism. Also reason Nash, Grant Hill, Jason Kidd, Pierce, Allen can still continue to play on a high level even though they are past their prime. Any time you wait on a player that has great athleticism to be a big time player you will always be waiting. That is one of the reasons I like Josh better now because I think he is learning how to play smarter minuses a few missteps while his athleticism has declined.

I MUS WRITE

January 24th, 2012
3:55 pm

You guys are crazy if we had a chance to add Mcgee its a no brainer. Call me crazy but the only thing Al does betteris shoot the mid range jumper. We have enuff jump shooters. Give me a 7 ft jumping jack/shotblocker to pair with josh and we’re on our Way.

I would totally do a Horford/2nd for Mcgee/Young

Teague/JJ/Marvin/Josh/Mcgee…Bench: Heinrich/Green/Young/ZaZa/Ivan/Vlad/TMac

Grandad

January 24th, 2012
3:58 pm

The Mcgee debate;

-simple-

Call Mark Fox;
it’s a local call so the ASG will not have to pay long distance charges.

I’m certain Coach Fox would give our Hawks the straight scoop.

Marv for McGee & fiiller;
would be the absolute most I would offer.
_____________________________________________

I would prefer these options [for Marv]::

*Amir Johnson
*Andris Biedrins
*Cole Aldrich

The Truth

January 24th, 2012
4:06 pm

Regarding the acquisition of McGee, Hawks Management would have to ask themselves, could they likely draft a better 7-footer at their projected draft position, probably not. Given his low BBIQ, perhaps he’s a late bloomer from a glass half-full viewpoint. If they consider him a “green” rookie, still teachable in the right environment, he could be worth the risk if he’s available for a 1st or 2-2nd rd picks. If so, at least the idea has merit.

Granted that’s a lot of “ifs”, but Sund should at least ask the questions.

Grandad

January 24th, 2012
4:07 pm

I MUS WRITE
____________________________________________________________
“you guys are crazy if we had a chance to add Mcgee its a *[no brainer]”
____________________________________________________________

It is a “brainer” !

McGee is a class A “kncklehead”

“brainers” give you “headaches” !

Grandad

January 24th, 2012
4:09 pm

Josh + McGee = MiGraine

Rod from College Park

January 24th, 2012
4:09 pm

“Didn’t Rasheed Wallace earn a certain rep in Portland? But didn’t he help Det win a title? Didn’t Zach Randolph also earn a certain rep early on his career? How is he doing in Menphis?

People respond differently to different situations, different coaches, different cultures etc., and McGee’s current issues (imo) doesn’t mean he couldn’t change if he got a change of scenery.”

Exactly O’Brien. When you play on a team where there is absolutely no leadership, and the leader of your team is a guy who was just doing the Dougie for an extended time before his first game last year, you would try to get yours too. Remember Jamal was supposed to be a problem guy before he came to Atlanta, as he and Don Nelson did not get along. Many of you don’t like Jamal, but he was in no way a bad team mate or caused problems with the Hawks. Teams tend to take on the attitudes of their leaders, and as much as I dislike Joe’s attitude, most of the team is a reflection of that, execept Josh. Guys like Blatche, and Mcgee just need to be around players who have winning pedigrees. Kind of like what Bibby did when he came to Atlanta. No way possible Mcgee could come to Atlanta, and do worse than Zaza (I like Zaza by the way). Zaza hustles, and makes the most of his abilities, but he has hands of stone, and he never attempts to make a play on the ball, he just fouls. If Mcgee was on this team, he would understand that his level of play would need to go up, and he and Josh would be a great tandem defensively in the paint. I don’t think that we could actually get him, but it would be a great move if we could.

doc

January 24th, 2012
4:10 pm

igdad, was going to say marvin for young and mcghee.

it would be fine to see him blossum elsewhere and hw i would sellmot.

SteveW

January 24th, 2012
4:13 pm

KevinM – I think Chicago has figured out there is no way they have the money (stingy owner) to re-sign Asik this off season, and are preparing for that. Asik is a RFA, and with Rose getting this new 30% Max or whatever starting next season, Boozer, Deng, and Noah making almost 45 mill. combined as well next season, they have no cash. That’s what that move looks like your talking about.

And speaking of Noah, what’s up with him? The difference between him last year and this season is night and day. He’s tanked bad. Wondering if anybody had heard what was up with him?

And if we could make the numbers work, somebody suggested a Paul Peirce for Hinrich/Marvin trade. Yea, you might be looking at a ECF if that trade went down.

But if your ASG, you’d have to make sure somebody was going to have a trade exception large enough, and willing to take PP of your hands next season. No way Hawks take on that kind of payroll going forward.

O'Brien

January 24th, 2012
4:15 pm

Najeh,

Not sure if you saw this on Jeff Schultz blog; Why the score boards are the way they are.

Williams (Hawks and Philips Arena president) phoned back. In short, this is their story: The boards began to malfunction during the Atlanta Dream season. The plan was to “re-bulb” them, but manufacturers said doing that would risk burning out the drivers. This, according to Williams, was in September. The plan now is to replace the boards after the season with new high-definition boards that will cost “well into seven figures.”

When I asked Williams why wait until after the season, he responded that the boards take four to six months to design and manufacture, and with other arena events they believed it would be difficult to get the boards operating during the season. “We know we compromised our fans, but this wasn’t unexpected,” he said. “Our plan was to replace them at the end of the season, anyway.” (Sudden thought: Strange how none of this was mentioned until somebody asked and wrote about it. Just saying.)

Williams said the four boards represents the first part of a high-def phase-in project with all of the arena boards. When asked if ownership balked at spending the money for this, Williams responded: “Once the [Alex] Meruelo deal [for the potential sale] fell apart, Bruce [Levenson] and Michael took control again. They had approved to spend last year and were in that transition of phasing it to Meruelo. When that deal terminated, it stayed in our [plans].”

So the boards will remain blank during the season. .

SteveW

January 24th, 2012
4:18 pm

The sweepstakes to get a Javale Mcgee will be fierce I would think. If they would take Marvin for him, yes, I would do that trade straight up. I don’t need filler. And I’d give them some 2nd picks as well.

I like Blatche and Young as well, if you could get one of those guys on the cheap. They would be good backups on this team.

O'Brien

January 24th, 2012
4:18 pm

Steve,

I think Boston will trade KG and/or Ray Allen before they trade Pierce. He is a lifelong Celtic, and team captain, and therefore, I think he would be their last resort trade.

SteveW

January 24th, 2012
4:19 pm

I’m going to guess Asik gets 7+ million per year somewhere after this season.

Joe Mama

January 24th, 2012
4:23 pm

I Mus write Its nice to know there are others here on the planet of reality. You are spot on. Its a no brainer and I actually see Josh’s growth from a highschooler to a Professional as something that may be good for McGee. 3Blks per game? Low post presence? Iikes the role and is a naturalist? 7fter? Inexpensive? Young? 11pts 9rbs?(al like numbers LOL)

Write on I mus Write on. NO BRAINER THUMBS UP. best we can do on todays market straight up trade injured shoulder with attitude for an injured mind with and attitude

as dolomite would say, “even swap ain’t no swindle.

DO IT NOW ASG

SteveW

January 24th, 2012
4:24 pm

OB – I agree – I was just responding to someone (don’t remember who) who suggested that trade a couple of blogs ago. Ray Allen for Hinrich and 2nd Picks? I’d do it if Boston would, even though Ray doesn’t play the 1, and I think Hinrich is going to give Teague some much needed rest at the 1.

But with Allen’s dead eye shooting, strong D, yes, I’d like to have him coming off the bench behind JJ. What a weapon! Probably help in the playoffs also.

Joe Mama

January 24th, 2012
4:25 pm

Grandad give me a P. O box to ship these Excedrins.

Rod from College Park

January 24th, 2012
4:27 pm

Grandad,

Sometimes you make some great calls, but you are way off on this one. First of all, no one in the NBDL, let alone the NBA would trade one of their best players for Marvin Williams. I’m not Joking either. Secondly, if you would take Amir Johnson, Biedrins, or Aldrich before you take McGee, I would kindly ask that you inform me what kind of weed you are smoking, so that I can make sure I never try it.

“McGee is a class A “kncklehead”

As O’Brien stated, so was Randolph, Artest, Steven Jackson, Deshawn Stevenson, Rasheed Wallace, Rodman, Iverson, Josh (on the basketball court), Cousins…………. 5 of the guys listed, were traded, went to a team who knew how to win, and won rings. With you being a coach, you should know that leadership, youth and enviroment play a major role in development. McGee has done nothing but try to get a triple double, and throw a ball off the backboard and dunk, on a team full of guys who want to be on sportscenter nightly because they have no chance of actually winning anything. He simply needs guidance, a new environment, and a weight room.

SteveW

January 24th, 2012
4:27 pm

Could you imagine closing out games occasionally with TMac at Point, Ray Allen at SG, and JJ at the 3? That would be nearly unstoppable.

But I’m going to guess it takes more than Hinrich and some 2nd picks to get Allen from Beantown.

doc

January 24th, 2012
4:29 pm

i just love my iphone

SteveW

January 24th, 2012
4:33 pm

And down goes Deng with torn wrist ligaments. Out “awhile” according to Coach TT.

doc

January 24th, 2012
4:35 pm

tell williams to add wifi and i will game channel my own info instead of the stuff they throw up there now. aj send at&t to the rescue.

just not very creative.

doc

January 24th, 2012
4:37 pm

a door might have just opened rather than a window of op basg.

Rufus1

January 24th, 2012
4:42 pm

SteveW,

I suggested Ray for Kirk and a 2nd…I think Ainge may be willing to trade him(Ray) to a contender out of respect for him and his career, if the Celtics are out of contention.