Cavaliers at Atlanta Hawks: Game thread
C-Viv reporting from Philips Arena.
Hawks coach Larry Drew did not use the word “quit” again to describe the Hawks’ performance Friday night at the 76ers. However, the coach did not back off his post-game comments.
Drew would not single any particular player out. He also said he has not address the team following his post-game comments.
Here are some quotes from Drew during his pre-game interview:
“I’m not going to call out any names. It got a little tough and we didn’t respond. We did not respond.”
“Yes [he stands by his post-game comments], I went back and watched it. We had a good first half. They made a run in the third quarter and, as stated, we didn’t respond to it, which is very disappointing. I’ve made statements in the past, I really thought we had turned that corner a little bit in that situation. Teams are going to make runs. Good teams are going to make runs. Philadelphia is a really good team. They played very well. We talked about it at halftime, that that team was going to make a run. We couldn’t fold the tent when they did. We had to mentally be strong and push our way through it when they did. That was not the response we got when they made the run.”
“What I said last night after the game is done. It’s time to move on.”
“Shot selection [was the reason for the poor second half]. Bad shot selection against a team as good as Philadelphia. Bad shot selection is just as good as turnovers. That’s what gets the team going… For a half we played and followed our game plan. Then we came out in the third quarter and completely lost focus of what got us the lead in the first half.”
“Certainly having a key guy like Al [Horford] that can bring some stability in a situation like that. He’s been the type of guy that would get guys to settle down and was vocal in the huddles. Those are the type of situations where you can use a guy like that because his presence along, being on the floor and being in the huddle, is definitely felt.”
“I think it’s everybody’s responsibility, mine included, when you get in those situations you have to be very aware of the flow of the game. Players on the floor have to be aware of the situation. Certainly our guys felt the momentum shift in that third quarter yesterday. And yet, we continue to be seduced into taking ill-advised shots. I just thought we had turned the corner from that. That was the disappointing part. We will bounce back from it. It’s not the end of the world. It’s not a situation where we are going to cave in. We are going to learn from last night’s game and we are going to continue to try to get better and better.”
Here are a couple comments from Jerry Stackhouse, the 16-year NBA veteran:
“Hopefully we respond positively. It’s one game. In a long NBA season you are going to have nights like that. But it was a little disappointing to see with almost four minutes left in the game, a 12-point game, we called off the dogs so to speak. But I guess from being around this group [coach Larry Drew] sensed something he’s seen before. Hopefully we can get past that. We’ve talked about growth a lot with this group. Maybe the message after the game and the fact we have a game right back today, we can come back and make amends for not finishing the game the way we should have.”
“It’s on the individual. When you are dealing with a team you’ve got to know which players to push and which players to coddle. The guys that need coddling might be affected differently. We hope not. Hopefully everybody looks at it for what it was. I think his comments were spot on. Now it’s just a matter of responding. More so than what he said last night, he’s looking for a response. Hopefully we can give the proper response tonight.”
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Melvin
January 22nd, 2012
2:14 pm
doc,
I stand corrected. I thought Sandusky was on the staff during both incidents.
doc
January 22nd, 2012
2:20 pm
joe mama, i also said from the get go he was not perfect but who is? i really dont put people up on pedestals, that is the first mistake to develop demagogues, and i dont tear or judge others without an opportunity to state themselves, i pray. that is what i think folks did. someone had to pay to make their anger go away and in this case it was joe pa. i am glad you feel better joe pa is gone. the world is no safer though.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news;_ylt=App7ioszbXsNf6bqCRj16105nYcB?slug=dw-wetzel_joe_paterno_obituary_012212
doc
January 22nd, 2012
2:32 pm
melvin, that is the very common mistake people make.
you know, i have been to church with convicted criminals or people who should have been. you know what could i do about it but live with it? it is a bit exaggerated but he did what he was supposed to do. though sandusky was not convicted because of a bad witness he seemed to break obvious ties with sandusky then not hide evidence when it occurred the second time even though sandusky wasnt an employee of the school or direct hire of his. we all live with a lot of i coulda’s. hope we dont make more of them.
melvin in all of this all the critics never have said exactly what he should have done only he should have done more because there really wasnt anything more once into the system or people would have said so or he would have been served an indicment as well. so what if he had asked more or pressed more without the authority? how many questions like that get ignored or lied about in our own lives where we seek truth?
Astro Joe
January 22nd, 2012
2:37 pm
Melvin, I agree (sight unseen). However, I kind of question how is it that Rasheed hasn’t already been signed if those reports are truly accurate. In a league desperate for quality big man depth, if he is truly sitting there healthy, fit, willing and cheap (that could be the issue), then why isn’t he playing? Frankly, I can’t help but wonder if the same is true for Pryzbilla, Dampier, Fesenko, Gadzuric and others.
Joe Mama
January 22nd, 2012
2:38 pm
“…in the convoluted scheme in university park pa. so why would you say he didnt report it when he did? it is not the truth and why would you perpetrate something that is a lie?”
Thats not true Doc
“when the assistant coach walked in and saw him in the act and the little boy begged for help, it was reported to J. Paterno, who on only one occasion casually mentioned it to the police instead of taking a proactive activist approach he did nothing further, choosing rather to tolerate it than to man up and show leadership.” – Joe Mama 1:04pm
Doc, when ever there is multiple report of this type of horrific perversion you can be sure that it could not have continually existed with out some sort of cover up. As a man, as a citizen, as a leader and faith walker, Paterno was position to lead by example. He did not. What was his full involvement that prevented his leadership is not known and perhaps may never be. One thing I believe. He knew not only of the two incidences you references. Im sure he knew much more. Perhaps he was prevented on the grounds of self incrimination. Perhaps. Either way he punted on first down, at a time when the hearts of the little boys needed him most.
The little boys are the victims, not Paterno.
“That’s pretty christian of you. Sometimes you self-righteous sorts can look kinda foolish.”
Phil I never said I was a Christian nor that I wasn’t. So why are you know attacking Christian?
As for me wishing you to hell, think about the bright side, you may look better there….
Doc I hear your view. You hear mine. My respect for you is too great to say anything more on the subject but to say we disagree about Paterno’s integrity.
I going to the garage and get a work out in.
Have a great day.
Joe Mama
January 22nd, 2012
2:50 pm
“in all of this all the critics never have said exactly what he should have done only he should have done more”
How about reporting the story to the press
How about holding a vigil for the little boys
How about champion a young boys club
How about paying for attorneys to help the boys
How about providing counseling
How about hiring a private investigator
How about a march
How about a boycott
How about letting the athletes wear a ribbon for the abused
How about speaking out on the subject
How about notifying the FBI
How about writing your congressman
?????????????????
He did absolutely nothing, but casualty mentioned it to the “campus” police.
Joe Mama
January 22nd, 2012
2:59 pm
*So why are you now
doc
January 22nd, 2012
3:20 pm
joe mama, it is true. for historical perspective and read the last line…
From Wikipedia,
University Park, Pennsylvania is an unincorporated community in Centre County, Pennsylvania, United States, and is the location of the flagship campus of the Pennsylvania State University.
University Park sits within the State College Metropolitan Statistical Area, which encompasses all of Centre County. Most of University Park sits within the borough of State College, while the northeastern part of campus is within College Township.
While most of this campus of the Pennsylvania State University is located in the borough of State College, Pennsylvania, the campus post office was designated University Park, Pennsylvania in 1953 when university president Milton Eisenhower changed the name of the Pennsylvania State College to the present Pennsylvania State University. Most campus buildings have a mailing address of University Park, PA. The ZIP code of University Park, Pennsylvania is 16802. The University Park Airport, although on property owned by the university, has a mailing address of State College, Pennsylvania.
The campus is served by the Penn State University Police.
joe mama i respect you as well, choose not to call names and wish that only that facts be known. all your suggestions are heard but as a long time employee he did what was expected of him and none of those would fly if he started sticking his nose in it and it was fabricated or didnt meet legal findings. then he would have been the one at legal fault. it took the law a long time but it finally came to pass and apparently was honest with legal authorities.
the university is going to pay up big time and my hope similar situations will be handled differently. it is odd that a similar situation occurred in syracuse this year and the head coach lives on, the assistant is gone and the legal fabric seems to be falling away and there be no case. so which way is right? they fired fine but should they or not? is he guilty or not? courts decide it not public opinion as it did with oj. if the glove fits, well?
should we watch big ben r and cheer on tv or even watch another nfl game to boycott them after what he did to a college girl in milledgeville, which is just as disgusting, with his posse of law officers around to clean up the mess so there was no evidence or it was all tainted? have you taken any steps with that one? after all, it was his second event and the first one was just handled out of court this past week. gets messy doesnt it?
my thought was joe pa should have been gone a long time ago. he isnt the perpetrator folks made him out to be nor a demagogue to make themselves feel better, in case sandusky walks. if it can happen to oj it can happen here.
doc
January 22nd, 2012
3:44 pm
hawks hit the road now for a 5 game stretch with 4 winnables and a maybe against the spurs. can we get to say 16 and 6 before the harsh february or will the road pull us down. also no back to backs until feb 14 and 15 which should help the legs a bit, though the hawks have lost a few when they were rested it seems instead of the other way around in back to backs. remember houston, awful?
phil
January 22nd, 2012
3:44 pm
I’m pretty sure that those who work out in garages are homosexuals…
Makes as much sense as those who just know for sure that Paterno did something wrong.
phil
January 22nd, 2012
3:45 pm
Hawks will go 2-5 on the trip.
Naturally Josh and Joe will lay down.
Bank on it.
doc
January 22nd, 2012
4:13 pm
blocked three times on further comments now, heh heh.
doc
January 22nd, 2012
4:20 pm
maybe, i ought to change my name to dui as everything seems to go through under that one.
well can we have a harbaugh super bowl?
phil, i think it is only a 5 game trip.
brigadierjerry
January 22nd, 2012
4:30 pm
Man these blogs have gotten very perverted. Time to take a break until this gets cleaned up.
Grandmaster JeJe
January 22nd, 2012
4:47 pm
This team never wins in Texas and almost never beats Texas teams.
FIRE SUNS
doc
January 22nd, 2012
5:10 pm
oh my, will the real dui step up as he has been given a gift just teed up and ready for him?
doc
January 22nd, 2012
5:25 pm
g jeje you are right however, at least it is only one at a time. this year instead of three in a row. dallas comes later. we miss some of our nemisis teams from the west at home this year. that is good for the record bad for the fan.
drmaryb.[*_*].
January 22nd, 2012
6:12 pm
Cundiff wide left from 32 yards! A pro bowler last season … Tom Brady is super bowl bound #5 – just wow! What a goat kick to tie the game in regulation.
Buddy Grizzard
January 22nd, 2012
6:26 pm
Looks like MC transitioning into another job? C-Viv definitely not holding down the fort in blogland.
Grandmaster JeJe
January 22nd, 2012
6:42 pm
Buddy,
Yeah been wondering what is going on here. This blog seems dead
Melvin
January 22nd, 2012
6:50 pm
Watching the Bucks/Heat game. Nice to see Shaun Livingston playing healthy again. Bogut and Leur ain’t doing squat just in case anyone is wondering.
Bigman needed
January 22nd, 2012
7:11 pm
Melvin:
Watching the Bucks/Heat game. Nice to see Shaun Livingston playing healthy again. Bogut and Leur ain’t doing squat just in case anyone is wondering.
All too predictable.
Henrich + filller for okafor!!!!
Just Joe
January 22nd, 2012
8:02 pm
The roster is maxed out at 15, and we’re just over the luxury tax. Cutting Sloan and Stack gets us back under the tax, but leaves no room to sign depth. Those two cuts leave 13 men, only 12 healthy enough to play (assuming Kirk stays healthy). Any injuries and we can’t even dress out a full active roster. Trades are coming, and they may not be for the purpose of upgrading talent. We’ve got to shed some payroll.
Melvin
January 22nd, 2012
8:04 pm
Bigman needed,
I think you have to add Marvin along with Hinrich for Okafor but even then I don’t see the Hawks making that trade to take on the remainder of Oakfor contract. It would save the Hawks 3mil this year but they lose Hinrich 8mil expiring deal next year and Oakfor has 2 yrs/ 28 mil remaining of his contract.
Jody
January 22nd, 2012
8:11 pm
If opportunity presents itself, I think the Hawks should try to make a big splash to bring another impact player with a package of Hinrich and/or Smith and Williams.
Melvin
January 22nd, 2012
8:34 pm
Bucks beat the Heat…. Hawks better be ready tomorrow….
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2012
8:37 pm
Bucks beat the Heat. Couldn’t have done it without Jon Leuer’s 4 minutes and 1 rebound.
Give-us us free [Amistad]
January 22nd, 2012
8:43 pm
[Milwaukee] Bucks cool off [Miami] Heat 91-82. Hawks please do not “fear the deer” just think “f-ck the buck.”
O'Brien
January 22nd, 2012
8:49 pm
Heat beat the Pacers last night, and then lose to the 5-9 Bucks. Didn’t see that one coming.
As for the Hawks schedule, it will be interesting to see how they play on a 5 game trip. They generally struggle in San Antonio, so it would be nice to see them win that game.
O'Brien
January 22nd, 2012
8:49 pm
* Heat beat the Sixers last night.
Tyrone
January 22nd, 2012
8:49 pm
Melvin,
Marvin’s contract is 8 mil year for 2 years and Hinrich’s is 8 mil expiring. The Hawks should make the big splash and make the trade for Okafor. This solves the center issue and the Marvin issue. In addition, it would place Al in his rightful position. Moreover, this trade makes the team viable for years. We have a 1st round pick and 4 2nd round picks in this year’s draft. The salary cap and bench issues are solved with rookie contracts.
Hawks make a Big Splash!
Mac-Town #maconchevyrider
January 22nd, 2012
8:52 pm
http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?id=320122014
looks like this was a case of two teams playing poorly but one team had to win. 35% shooting from the Bucks. We should still handle those guys.
Astro Joe
January 22nd, 2012
8:54 pm
Jennings goes 1-10 from 3? Sounds like he bumped his head and thought that he was Craig Hodges.
Slimjr
January 22nd, 2012
8:55 pm
Doc, my gut is telling Joe knew a lot more and could not bear his conscious anymore…Now he goes before his maker to discuss if further…
This is land of hypocrites…..All day and everyday…..
Get a copy of this book “The gods of the lodge”…..Will make known of these hypocrites…
Slimjr
January 22nd, 2012
9:00 pm
“Bucks beat the Heat. Couldn’t have done it without Jon Leuer’s 4 minutes and 1 rebound.”
HaHaHa……..SLB took an hiatus?
Give-us us free [Amistad]
January 22nd, 2012
9:00 pm
D-Wade’s injury [absence] finally caught up with the Heat in their loss to the Bucks.
Grandmaster JeJe
January 22nd, 2012
9:04 pm
I hope Bogut doesn’t own us tomorrow. I’ve never been sold on him, but look who we have playing at the Center these days…
Just Joe
January 22nd, 2012
9:04 pm
Tyrone, if that’s the only trade you make, then you go in to next year owing $66M+ to 6 players (Teague, Joe, Josh, Al, Pachulia, and Okafor). This ownership will not put themselves in that position, in my opinion.
Grandmaster JeJe
January 22nd, 2012
9:05 pm
Jon Leuer, F 5 0-1 0-0 0-0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0
Melvin
January 22nd, 2012
9:08 pm
Tyrone,
In that trade scenario, you are basically trading Marvin 2yr/16mil for Oakfor 2yr/28 mil. Don’t see the ASG going for that. Especially with Joe and Josh contract increasing during that same time span as well.
O'Brien
January 22nd, 2012
9:14 pm
Good article from Hoopshype on Josh;
http://hoopshype.com/articles/narducci/smith-weighs-in-on-all-star-consideration/
Just Joe
January 22nd, 2012
9:15 pm
Two moves for now and the future:
Dump Marvin for any expiring contract.
Trade Hinrich, McGrady, and Collins to Dallas for Haywood, Roddy B, and Dominique Jones. Dallas does this deal to prepare for this summer. They can now amnesty Marion at the end of the year, and afford both Dwight and Deron.
Sautee
January 22nd, 2012
9:16 pm
O’B,
bad link
Grandmaster JeJe
January 22nd, 2012
9:18 pm
http://hoopshype.com/articles/narducci/smith-weighs-in-on-all-star-consideration
Grandmaster JeJe
January 22nd, 2012
9:20 pm
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/josh_smith/game_by_game_stats.html
Check out Josh’s performances from January 3 – January 11.
Marvin Williams will never in his career have a stretch half as good as that.
That is, divide all the numbers Smoove put up in that stretch by two, and that still severely outdoes anything Marvin Williams will ever accomplish in his career.
#KeepingItReal24/7
Slimjr
January 22nd, 2012
9:59 pm
After todays performance by Flacco there is no doubt that he is by far more talented than Ryan…
Had that touchdown pass not been stripped, he and his temates were on their way to the SB!!! So close.. Yet Ryan so far………
Slimjr
January 22nd, 2012
10:00 pm
teammates^^
Slimjr
January 22nd, 2012
10:13 pm
They are about to embark on a five-city, nine-day road trip that will cover nearly 6,000 miles. It’s one more oddity of the NBA’s compacted schedule this season. The north-south alternating excursion begins in Milwaukee on Monday, goes to San Antonio, Detroit, New Orleans and ends in Toronto on Jan. 31. Three of the legs cover at least 1,000 miles.
“The way I’m looking at it, the one area where we’ve got to grow as a team is we have to be able to play out on the road under abnormal conditions,” coach Larry Drew said. “Certainly, this schedule is very abnormal.”
Wow, the next 5 weeks will make or break this teams season.Starts tomorrow night! Git ready yall! Its going to be some long days ahead on this blog……LOL
Grandmaster JeJe
January 22nd, 2012
10:15 pm
Cosign Slimjr.
We draft Julio yet he is not utilized nearly enough.
Instead, Matty Melt throws 4 yard completions to Tony Gonzalez.
Sautee
January 22nd, 2012
10:30 pm
slim, when I used to tour, we’d call that kind of routing a “star of David tour”.