Atlanta Hawks: Al Horford out 3-4 months with injury

ugly.

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This season is obviously going nowhere for the Hawks, though.

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We’ll certainly miss Horford. Well, most of us will.

TS will likely post soon, telling us that Al did it on purpose so he wouldn’t get traded, or some such BS.

Sund’s set himself up to fail this time.

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Greg Ostertag is in the NBDL trying to make a comeback.

Boss Horford, get well soon. Real soon!

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Well management has to make a move now!

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The Hawks will make the only kind of move that they know how to make. They will make a “minimum salary move”.

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Joel P. would be the best available big but the ASG are petrified of the luxury tax.

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Bring back Rolle or Benson.

We will see how good of a coach LD is with one of his stars out. Either he makes the adjustments and finds a way to win or he fails and makes up and excuse.

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that lost first rounder sure looks big now. what could we possibly offer in a trade at this point?

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With Al going down goes any hope of Dwight along with it, he would’ve been the cement for a trade, like Najeh said only bright spot now is a potential lottery pick.

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We should have signed Sean Williams when we had a chance.

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So?

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Here’s the latest on Pryzbilla.
http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2011/11/former_trail_blazers_center_jo.html

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As Grandad said, that BJ Mullens would look good now.

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Free agent list is at nba.com.

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Time for the others to step up.. Who know maybe one of the other bigs can average 12/7 and be selected to his 1st Allstar game?

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funny, i always ehar about people complain about horford playing center and how he should be PF … well, now he’s not playing center. Yet, people get upset b/c we have no center. technically speaking, you guys already said we didn’t have a center before b/c al isn’t a good fi for center. LOL, atlanta fans suck!

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Now Joe Johnson the energy vampire will wilt some more.

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Damn, Damn, Damn…

- Sad part is the man begged to move to PF…
- How does IR work in the NBA?
- Will Hawks get disabled player exception?
- ZaZa/Collins aint all that bad…
- Before Horford, ZaZa was a double-double…
- What does this mean for D.Sloan/Stackhouse…
- Move Hinrich now for BIG?

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Now is a better time than ever to trade Zaza, Vlad and Phx 2nd round pick for Mozgov and Faried.

We need size now not 3pt shooting. Timofey is 7′1 250 and Faried is 6′7 on a good day but plays much bigger, Zaza and Collins are NOT I repeat NOT going to cut it at C for the remainder of the season.

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Have to agree with J…. Hawks and really Atlanta fans in general suck. The second anything negative happens, they jump off the ship. It’s not all or nothing people. Need a little positive thinking.

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Well knowing ASG and Sund, they are NOT going anywhere near that luxury tax.

Mr Cunningham, any ideas what they might do now?

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Whatsup brigadierjerry? The seasons only like 3 weeks old and here we go…
We should have traded him when we had the chance to take this team to next level…Unfortunately injuries are apart of professional sports..

The size of the loss will be determined by how Gearon/Sund/Larry handle it. Of course the players as well. Sund should have not have cut Benson and should not have signed Stackhouse…

This will be interesting to watch this ish pan out…

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I bet somewhere, somebody is knocking on Rick Sunds door, trying to wake him up.

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mannnnnnnnnnn

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“With ZaZa being the starter, don’t be surprised if his play improves. Or maybe that’s wishful thinking on my part.”

The only positive I can think of with Zaza being in the starting lineup is that he will be playing alongside Josh much more and his inability to play help defense won’t be as big of a detriment. We can only hope he gains confidence with the guaranteed minutes, hits mid range jumpers at a higher rate, and turns the ball over less.

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“Of course, the other option is to use this as an opportunity to obliterate the core once and for all, cut ties with Joe/Josh/Marvin, stockpile picks in the upcoming deep draft, and start over.”

I’ll have to say that part of me is tempted. The impatient part.

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do we have enough money to go out and get a big

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So, now we can concentrate on Thrashers season? ATL = Losersville USA

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I’m with Najeh at this point. Just blow it up.

This was the ‘make or break’ year for this group. Now with Horford out, we don’t even really have much of a chance to see what they can do.

Just start over.

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Finally they’ll be forced to consider making moves or be shown as frauds… Do something or watch your season go away…

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We need to move quick on Pryzbilla. He’s had 21 months of time to recover from two bad injuries to his knee and other teams are zeroing in on him.

But he’s one of these guys that likes to lollygag on who he wants to play for.

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marvin and zaza for okafor,

Najeh I would do this deal you suggested. It would be a good stop gap move for the time being to be somewhat competitive.

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DAMN! This really sucks!

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The Hawks better get on the horn to Jon Koncak……….ASAP

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It’s a bird, its a plane, its….

SHAQUILLE O’NEAL

Clear some bench room fellas…
There’s a bonafide superstar BIG coming…
Not a starter, but a 7′3, 400lb. HOF insurance policy…

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Lol @ Jon Koncak…but serioulsy, what is Tree Rollins up to ?

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should have got garret siler when we had a chance ………….. we so cheap we may just play I, Johnson and leave roster as is we dont need more draft picks we just want siggn them anyway or dont let play oh yea or leave them across da water n think we forget about them

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“All NBA tried to out muscle a much larger man by throwing his shoulder into a 7′2″ mountain to create space and all he did was get his shot blocked and blow up his shoulder….

Its unfortunate the guy has limited offensive skills…”

Nah, Al was doing the right thing. He faced up, put the ball on the floor, and used his superior quickness to drive. Same play that got him a bucket a few possessions earlier. Hibbert just happened to recover in time and block it and it ended up with this freak injury.

Kaman’s contract is expiring, so Kirk + Zaza for him would not dent the Hawks’ long-term plans and still keep them competitive this year, although not nearly as competitive as they would have been with Al. The question is whether New Orleans would be willing to eat the $5.2 million Zaza is owed next year.

But this time, any short-term quick fix deal the Hawks make shouldn’t involve giving up their first rounder. If they can’t make a deal without giving that up, just keep the pick and use it on the best player available.

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Maybe Gearon should go ahead now and dismantle the Core?

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This sucks

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“But this time, any short-term quick fix deal the Hawks make shouldn’t involve giving up their first rounder. If they can’t make a deal without giving that up, just keep the pick and use it on the best player available.”

Bottom line, underlined 3 times…

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Najeh…Hawks can’t trade their 2012 first rounder. They traded last year’s.

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Yes, we sucks again. Lottery pick.

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so horford got hurt by getting his shot blocked?

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Davenpoop: why would the hornets make a henrich for kaman deal? Kaman is playing well and is on an expiring deal. Plenty of teams will be interested.

Okafor makes big money and has 3 years left. They could shed that salary and pick up Marvin’s scoring and potential at less salary.

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I will miss Horford, but I think they are ok without him

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“why would the hornets make a henrich for kaman deal? Kaman is playing well and is on an expiring deal. Plenty of teams will be interested.”

Kirk is also expiring. But you’re right, they will probably be willing to accept less in a deal for Okafor. From the Hawks’ point of view, though, a Kaman deal makes more sense.

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In watching the play real time it certainly appeared he was fouled with no call being made, which was typical of the calls(non-calls) made all night. Without Horford the Hawks are in big trouble. This man is a solid citizen and a wonderful team basketball player.

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Frank, all of those trade scenarios would be terrible for the Hawks.

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@Tyger

Maybe it’s just because of his new TV gig, but Shaq was at Phillips opening night, and he wasn’t dressed for the TV gig. It was also not a national tv game, so i thik he was there just because. Not that it says much, but at least he spends time in the a already.

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If they choose to dismantle the core and they ship out Joe and Josh quickly, they may be able to tank enough to have an outside shot at Andre Drummond — who is a real center and can allow Al to play power forward next year.

Teague/Al/Drummond is not a bad starting point, especially if the Hawks can get more picks in exchange for Joe and Josh.

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Former Cavalier and Heat player Gary Alexander of USF fame is a little old but still in great shape and available. The guy can flat out play. He is currently a police officer that works at North Springs High School in Sandy Springs but I bet he would do wonders for the defense and rebounding inside for the Hawks if given the chance.

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Theo Ratliff probably wants to get out of the old folk home

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Season could be done. It was a good 3 weeks though.

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Alexander is only about 6-8 or so I believe so he is not really a center. I tried to foul him in a summer league game many years ago in Clearwater Fl and he just carried me to the rim with him. But I am just a 6 foot white guy so I doubt he knew I was there until the ref blew the whistle for the and-1.

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Jeez…..ATL never catches a break!

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damn wtf? So what yall think we gonna do? Somebody has to get signed, traded or something. Depending on our backup bigs is like depending on a T-Shirt for warmth in Alaska.

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drmaryb.[*_*].

I am not an orthopedic doctor but I believe the main issue with the Bo Jackson injury was the lack of blood flow to that area of the hip makes healing more difficult. This should not be an issue with the pectoral area. So a full recovery is possible given enough time. Yes/no??????

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Sund should be on the phone today looking for help…..but he will let Zaza,Collins and Johnson get a chance at the minutes.

So, I guess Sund might ‘consider’ bringing in a C now? He has to be forced to make a big move based on his record here.
Say goodbye to the D12 wishes…………………………………not that it was realistic anyway.

So, I see Pryzbilla and maybe Etan getting a call.

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Keith Benson on a 10-day contract makes the most sense right now. He was with us in training camp and should have some idea of what the offense & defense are trying to do.

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“He has to be forced to make a big move based on his record here.” – KevinM

That sounds like LD, no wonder why Sund hired him.

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I think this talk about blowing up the core is too hasty and too drastic. Let’s see how the Hawks play first without Horford before we consider making any significant changes to the roster. Other players will just have to step up right now while Horford is out [for probably the remainder of the season] and LD will just have to do his best Nate McMillan impersonation and coach ‘em up.

Now, I miss Jamal in a Hawks’ uni more than ever. You could depend on Jamal to pick up the scoring slack in these situations when one of your team’s main scorers is out [with injury or whatever]. When he’s given the green light to shoot/score, you know Jamal has the potential to fill it up.

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Is Nenad Krstic still in the league?

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“The Spook who sat by the door

January 12th, 2012
4:59 pm
I think this talk about blowing up the core is too hasty and too drastic.”

You can rest assure that there is nothing being done is a hasty manner. We use all our resources as an organization to make the best decision that fits our salary structure. We really like what we have on our bench and think we can compete just fine without further movement.

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Karma….

He left his FIANCE while she was planning the wedding…

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@ DR. MaryB-your bias clearing shows. IT WAS THE PLAYERS WHO WANTED TO SQUEEZE IN 66 GAMES SO THEY WOULDNT MISS A PAYCHECK!!!!!!!-they chose to push the lockout w/o any business leverage and now they’re paying for it. NO ill will towards AL-get well soon buddy, we need u.

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This season is done. The good news is we really need a lottery pick and the best thing that could happen to the hawks is for them to lose the rest of their games.

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Isn’t there an age-old axiom that you never trade big for small? So we’re expecting Hinrich to be the center-piece of a trade that lands us a serviceable center that can help us get to the second round?

I’d vote for either a bigger PF that would allow us to play super-fast (e.g. Brandon Wright or Anthony Randolph or someone of that type) or go Big Country with Pryzbilla or Ostertag or pry Diop from Charlotte and split the minutes across the marginal centers on the team. Some one like Yi would have fit the athletic bill (just signed with Dallas). I just don’t see ripping the squad apart because we’re that close to breaking through the playoff glass ceiling. Anyone who thinks we’re a bigger (but not better) center than Horford away from the ECF is fooling themselves.

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Garrett Siler

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” IT WAS THE PLAYERS WHO WANTED TO SQUEEZE IN 66 GAMES SO THEY WOULDNT MISS A PAYCHECK!!!!!!!”

My understanding is the players still get paid what they are owed. If that’s not true please show me a link.

“they chose to push the lockout w/o any business leverage and now they’re paying for it.”

Lockouts are owner-initiated actions. Nobody was “pushing” the lockout on the players’ end.

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“So a full recovery is possible given enough time. Yes/no??????” -Hiesenberg-
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YES!!!

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Well, if you have to flounder through a season, this might be the best one to do just that.
This draft is considered deep and we should be able to pick up at least one contributor.
I’m glad that Sund can’t deal this draft pick unless they modified that rule in the new CBA agreement. I am never for giving up #1s because they always give you an opportunity to improve for a smaller price than a vet FA.

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Najeh you are misinformed my friend.
Contracts are contingent on providing a service. in other words in goes both ways. you dont get your money unless you produce/play. When Stern cancelled games b/c of a lack of an agreement (w/o leverage on the players side) they forfeit that percentage of their salary. When the players cancelled their lawsuit and deceided to settle, it was their decision to squeeze 66 games and receive their full salary instead of playing less of a schedule. I’m too lazy to find a link but i thought this was common knowledge….

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Y’all are stupid! May the force be with the Rebel Alliance.

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If we do end up with a lottery pick, Won’t it belong to the Wizards??

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Wizards already got their picks, Crawford and Singleton.

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Leuer and Bogut not looking so bad right now huh? Depth not looking so bad huh?

Pachulia starts, Radmanovic starts… No backups. Marvin’s lack of coordination. Horford’s robotic and lacks length = injury.

Every season. This is not piling on. Shaquille O’Neal saw it last night and did not even care. He said “get big” iirc.

Rebuild around Horford. Yeah right. Anyone who wants to say his value hasn’t peaked now? SMFH.

ATL: always trying to upskate uphill.

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All NBA tried to out muscle a much larger man by throwing his shoulder into a 7′2″ mountain to create space and all he did was get his shot blocked and blow up his shoulder….

Its unfortunate the guy has limited offensive skills…

He could have pulled up on the 8 footer and banked it in over the out stretched arms of Roy Hibbert Just not part of his arsenal..

Get well soon Sir!
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LOL @ the give up mentality of ATL fans.

This is what others outside of the city see. Team hasn’t even played a full game yet without Al, and people are already talking about breaking this team up.

Memphis is in the 2nd week of playing without Zach Randolph, who will probably be out another 2 months . . . yet . . . that fan base isn’t crying about it. And the Memphis front office didn’t sid idly by and feel sorry for themselves either.

The Hawks have more than enough to make the playoffs. What they need now at the C position, is a big guy who can rebound a little. Przybilla should be the target, seeing that he’s traditionally a very good rebounding big man.

Get Przybilla, cut Pargo . . . because the Hawks aren’t going over the Luxury Tax, just to replace Horford. Challenge Zaza’s azz to step his game up. And give more minutes to Ivan ( not Jason Collins ).

Plus Hinrich will be ready in a few weeks, making us stronger in the backcourt.

In the end though, we need JJ and Smith to really take over the leadership of this team. And they’ll have to step their games up.

This is also a golden opportunity for Smith. If he plays well in the absence of Horford, he may make the All-Star team. But what Smith really needs to concentrate on doing, is rebounding the basketball. Somebody on the frontline will have to hit the boards HARD. And that guy may be Josh Smith.

I thought the Hawks could be something like a 39 – 27 team this season ( which would have them winning 48 or 49 games in an 82 schedule ). Without AL, that number probably drops to 36 – 30.

Still no reason to give up on the dang season. Let all of this play out and see how these guys respond.

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2nd everything Northcyde just said!

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If you even consider trading for C now, you pay a much higher price than you would have with a healthy roster.

But as we know, the ASG/Sund is far from being proactive about any personnel moves. And should Teague go down? Start slotting your draft position…

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@northcyde

Our team is built around tweeners. Not conventional players. Josh Smith is a tweener. Marvin is a tweener. Horford is a tweener. Teague is a tweener. Joe’s window is closing.

You have certain tweeners (Teague, Smith)that are uptempo and slashers and need shooters to spread the floor and a center to rebound.

To this day people are saying Al’s a PF. But when he and Zaza were in together did his scoring go up? If he was that good at PF we could’ve traded Smith for a conventional SF a LONG time ago.

Why did we hold onto players that arent compatible!

IceSkateUphill

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I DIDN’T THINK THAT THE HAWKS HAD A 1ST ROUNDER FOR 2012. I THOUGHT THAT WE GAVE THAT TO WASHINGTON WITH THE JORDAN FOR HINRICH TRADE…

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“Rebuild around Horford. Yeah right. Anyone who wants to say his value hasn’t peaked now? SMFH.”

Well, maybe now you won’t have to post the trade idea for the umpteenth time. Too late.

Come up with another one, now.

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I wonder if Orlando would take a trade of Joe, Zaza and 2 first rounders for D12 (if Dwight agrees to no opt out this summer, for an extra year) and Hedo. .If the Hawks kept Kirk, they could go in the playoffs with a line up of Teague, Kirk, Josh, Al, D12. With Hedo and Vlad as shooters off the bench.

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im actually excited about tonight’s game..

its show time..

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Whoever said we would be in the lottery drafting Drummond, a. he just said in an interview he would play his sophomore season no matter how high he was drafted, b. we would never go that high in the lottery, even without Al

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This Hawks Ownership is not going to do sh!t. Never has. Never will. The only way we can show our displeasure for their foolishness is to NOT SHOW UP for games. Period.

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Josh Smith will make the All Star team. bet on it

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Horford, Josh, Marvin: The Curse of Billy Knight

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Tweeners create matchup problems, but they also create ball-handling problems if a team is made up mostly of such players. Everybody thinks they can bring the ball up the court, create, etc. At least the Heat have Wade and LeBron. If you’re going to build a team around tweeners, you need great ones.

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Schultz is wrong….Teague is the most critical piece to this team, now and going forward. If we don’t keep him healthy, write off this season.
Al’s replacement will come from a team effort on the boards and in the paint…both of which are needed even with Al in the lineup.

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Zaza can start too….he’s good enough to be a starter in this league. But with that…it weakens our bench…so now they must go out there and sign a big man…hopefully Pzybilla. Pzybilla and Ivan off the bench would be mean because there is no dropoff rebounding wise from Josh Smith and Zaza.

Zaza Pachulia will bring the fire every night

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Smith ain’t carrying sh**. Lesser quality players enter the rotation and we’ll be forced to play Zaza and Ivan big minutes. Injury risk increases for everybody.

I see a domino effect. Zaza might be first to go down.

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Anyone want to give your true feelings to the ASG? They’re trying to change their email addresses to @hawks.com from @asg.com and they have a little survey here for you….you determine if this is for you…

http://alexanderbabbage.com/Hawks/hawks2011pulsestudy.htm

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[...] losing to the Indiana Pacers by a final score of 96-84; according to a report from the “Atlanta Journal Constitution” they will be without center Al Horford after he injured his shoulder early in the game. The [...]

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No Marvin or McGrady tonight this is going to be ugly.

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This is the really bad news… We should be just good enough to contend for an 8 seed, which will mean that we don’t get a good pick and we get clobbered in the first round. Without Al, there’s no way we win a 7 game series against any of the 1-4 seeds. The only two good scenarios are that Al comes back earlier than expected or the Hawks just tank this season and get a good pick for next year.

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WITH THESE INJURYS WE MIGHT NOT EVEN MAKE THE PLAYOFFS! IF WE GET A FUTURE SG STAR IN THE DRAFT! Well look like the Lakers….nuff said

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Dallas would give you Brendan Haywood…

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Shouldn’t “Sandbagging MFers” be on that list?

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Ignore that comment.its dumb ^^^^^^^

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Bad injury for Al, dude, get well soon!!

Most of you doomsayers are going on like Hawks can’t win without Al. The season is done. Blow it up, blah, blah, blah. Why don’t people wait and see how things play out 1st? Maybe this will cause the ASG to finally do something.

And besides, that was not a block, that was a foul on AL.

Maybe a 2nd opinion will give better news, and hope Al heals as quick as Joe and Josh.

And this is just the beginning. With a short season and all those games back to back, look for more guys to go down league wide.

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wait a minute.. Al the anchor of our defense?

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Larry thinking about starting Ivan.. not a bad idea. need the board work..

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Our season is over! I hope we can get in the lottery and get the #1 pick.

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Well….we will see what the HAWKS are made of in the next few weeks. Can they win with the injuries mounting? Personally I don’t think so because of the fragile mindset they possess, we should be able to beat charlotte tho but who knows now. I feel an IMPLOSION coming about. The Highlight factory will be officially named the LAUNCHING PAD. It all starts tonight. Stay tuned

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Zsa Zsa will be exposed as a horrible defensive player against other teams starters. He is much to slow
to be on the floor for an extended period of time. Trade Zsa Zsa for picks, anything, I beg you, PLEASE?

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Before I discuss Big Al;
I must answer northcyde concerning his definition of ……
” putting a team on their back ” !

If you [n c] think that jackin’ up shots is the definition of putting
a team on your back; it becomes more and more evident of our
generation gap.
Bill Russell or Oscar Robinson even Bird & Magic would
cringe at that thought.
1st and foremost … what was the scoring disparity between Joe and Granger.
What was the final score ?
Did Joe have to take one extra shot to:
* hold Granger under his scoring avg / [24 -10 = 14] ^(10)
** (16 being DG’s scoring avg)
* Joe himself scoring 17 rather than 15 = ^(2)
* Joe avg’s 3 assts / let us say he got 5 assts = ^(4)
* Joe gets one Xtra def Reb / Indy got 9 off rebs / – one basket = ^(2) pts
* heaven forbid he made a hustle play and saved two points ^(2)
* Joe made 4 TO’s, is it too much to suggest he make 1 (+/-) at least ^(6)

That equal a 26 point swing w/o him doing anything extraordinary !

We lost by 12.
Joe puts the team on his back or more definitively Joe show up;
we win by 14 !

All you guys think about is shootin’ and scoring !
-moronic-
I once had a 5-10 player dominate a game bu stealing the ball [defense]
scoring when presented, assisting his teammate, and most importantly;
involving our post player who was previously apathetic.
The post player dominated physically, but, it was the guard who actually
through “athletic arrogance” put our team on his back.
Our whole team gained confidence just from his attitude and demeanor !
He took over the game -mentally & psychologically- !

Clearly, I know what I mean’t, on my original post.
Consequently I know my craft,
whereas your depth of knowledge “pertinere” basketball is dubious.

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Look at what Miami did without a center last year. They had spit and glue with Joel Anthony and Haslem. Undersized? Yes, but relentless on the boards.

See Rodman in Chicago, who compensated for Luc Longley or, was it Bill Cartwright? Hopefully, Ivan can do some damage and control his foul rate and increase his usage %.

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“we would never go that high in the lottery, even without Al”

The Bulls were 8th in the lottery and leapfrogged to #1 the year they got Rose.

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“But some bloggers have taken their hatred too far.They are happy because Al went down!!!!”

Nobody hates Al except for one very well established blogger with multiple names. Everyone else gives him at least some credit.

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bimbo walker? say what Nique?

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This is very depressing news. My expectations for the team just dropped dramatically. With our current interior depth, we look like a very poor team on the inside. Other than Josh, we have a very poor frontline now. My expectations for the season just dropped dramatically. I’m not even expecting us to make the playoffs now. Just terrible news. I just hope Al’s rehab goes well, and I hope something good comes out of this. Maybe we’ll get a nice lottery pick.

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Well Horford haters should be happy – no more Al Horford for the season.

Time for backup centers and additional big men to step up.

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Joe’s first shot is money….that’s a good thing.

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I really hate it when Josh ignores the PG and runs the break, then throws a pass that is too much for the receiver to successfully convert into points.

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SWEET CHRISTMAS!!!

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“Nobody hates Al except for one very well established blogger with multiple names. Everyone else gives him at least some credit.”

This the only name I post under.

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“I thought the Hawks could be something like a 39 – 27 team this season ( which would have them winning 48 or 49 games in an 82 schedule ). Without AL, that number probably drops to 36 – 30.”

What you’re saying with this statement is that the Hawks will be a better team this year without Al (.545 winning percentage; 36-30) than they were last year with Al (44-38, .537 winning percentage).

That is the definition of optimism right there.

Al is worth more than 3 wins (4 wins in a full season) to this team, particularly considering that Zaza is his backup.

And by the way, f-ck Memphis. If those fans are satisfied with that team they are chumps. Zach Randolph is not going to carry that team to a championship.

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If JJ is hot, keep shooting.

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“This the only name I post under.”

Haha I wasn’t talking about you.

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ATLANTA SPIRIT KARMA IS A BITCH, SORRY AL HAD TO PAY FOR THEIR DIRTY DEEDS.

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why do Rad and ZaZa gonna have to quit the volleyball and grab some rebounds..

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Was that an airball by Josh or an assist or Joe? lol

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Perfect opportunity for Josh to really lead this team, especially with Horford out. Not gonna happen if he doesn’t play smarter. We need the Josh who had a three game streak of 20+ points.

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Now everybody’s a playmaker…Zaza gets into the act….and we’re still leading – amazing.

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I agree this has the markings of bad ASG karma all over it, really wish it could have come in the form of an owner (or 2 or 3 or 5) tumbling down a few flights of stairs though.

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Hawks are now forced to HIRE a real NBA center now……This is not Princeton, Larry Drew. if you want to run a college offense, go coach in college. Drew will be joining Woody soon anyway.,,, Just a matter of time. NBA’s version of Mike Mularky..

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Go ahead Joe. Nice drive Teague.

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Big Ivan checking in early

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Unfortunately, Granddad, you’re not running the Hawks…nor any of the other “know it alls” on this blog. Too bad.

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pass the ball teague

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Thanks DrMaryB …. I actually understood that & feel more enlighten, unfortunately injuries this year are going to be many .

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looked like good d..

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FIRE LD

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Fire Larry Drew.

Josh Smith starting at Center is asinine….or in the words of Stephen A. Smith….asitwelve

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Not a bad post move there Ivan…

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Joe with 13 first quarter points. Get ‘em Joe.

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Joe has just been BLAZIN’….

It’s good to see plays where he is set up to take these jumpshots, instead of always having to create his own offense.

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CAn somebody tell me what tonights starting lineup was?

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Ivan has been a real gemstone in the rough….never thought we’d get a guy like that for our bench…let alone actually play him.

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BAD SHOT, Josh.

Good job Ivan…

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Way to go Ivan taking it to Biz Markie

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Big Ivan puttin in work

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It’s time to give Sloan time over Pargo. Why is Teague alway first man out?

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You never see Ivan Johnson walking up up court. He plays hard all the time.

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I know I’m not the only one that sees this, but Ivan (we on a first name basis) looks like he’s always a hard foul away from swinging on somebody

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IJ is active out there

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Katie ,

I hear you..

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Is it going to be a Johnson & Johnson night? [Joe & Ivan]

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We’re doomed.

By the way, what happened to Marvin?

Did a quarter pounder attack him?

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Why you take Big Ivan out and put Zaza in?

FIRE LD

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Vlad-Rad with the weak D. Good drive Josh.

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thats what its gone take.. a lil Joe.. a lil Josh.. a lil Jeff..

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more like hall of flamer

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Just at the very moment you think the Hawks might have a team that can do something, down go Fat marvin and Horford…

Atlanta teams couldn’t catch a break if it landed in their laps.

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“Besides, zsa zsa is a potential HOFer…”

Please tell me that was a joke.

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The commie!

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Vlad-Rad for threeee!

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Dude has no ball skills and always flops when he brings up the ball.

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Ivan is our own poor man Rodman, except he looks to score. With experience, playing time, and more basketball smarts, dude could make a name for himself.

That’s only Vlad’s 2nd shot and his 1st score on the three. He needs more touches.

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zaza’s moan… LOL

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Oh damn….that was nasty stuff by Henderson. Josh needs to answer…

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The commie is lighting it up.

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14 pts – 8 boards for Josh Smith already. Great job man.

And Ivan getting 5 points and 5 boards in 9 minutes . . . I’ll take that all day. That dude obviously has offensive skills. He just need more playing time to find his comfort zone on the NBA level.

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Grandad’s boy BJ Mullins is ballin

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No shot blocking at the rim

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not sure why Josh didnt come over and help Jeff on that DJ drive.. then he passes to Joe on the inbound..

but, he sells the 3 and passes to Jeff for the 3..

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Fire FG!!

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Zaza: 1 rebound in 14 minutes.

Good thing it’s the Bobcats.

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Northcyde,

I wish we’d have picked up Mullens for what he costs and is doing….but I’m happy we’re getting real production from Ivan, who has really been a pleasant surprise.

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Mullens for a 2nd pick for the ‘Cats
Okur for a 2nd pick for the Nets
Xman and a 2nd pick for Spieghts

We ought to be able to get somebody for a 2nd pick – and yes ya’ll, agreeing with the ‘Dad – Mullens would look real good in a Hawks uni right now

We do have 4 2nd picks the next 2 season – trade them all for somebody serviceable right now

And with Hinrich gone, I guess the odd man out would be Stackhouse. We need Sloan in case Pargo or Teague get hurt. But Ld sure seems to like Stack.

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Has anyone ever seen a black Mormon?

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lol @ that random question

I would have to say . . . no

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Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde,

I only remember that the main character’s code name in the resistance group was “Uncle Tom.” I googled the movie the other day and was able to view the entire movie on the laptop.

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MJ!

Norty! MJ was another player who could cover up pot holes. His rebounding jumps out at me when needed. He would just dial up whatever was missing.

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D’Antoni is a horrible coach. Woody is going to take that dude’s job eventually. Knicks look like ish tonight. And D’Antoni doesn’t help matters by putting in guys who don’t even play defense.

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Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde,

Here’s a link to the entire movie, “The Spook Who Sat by the Door.”

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4523519125993797655#

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Najeh,

And just think… we had THREE chances in what, 5 years?

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“Hi, I’m Paris, I was born in Atlanta, raised in Tuskegee Alabama and I’m a Mormon” -Rob Parker ESPN-
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Thanks Rob, I was just wondering because The Ed Show on MSNBC just did a piece on that. Was just wondering.

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Im still shaking my head at the trick al pulled, just sorry man, just sorry.

We wont get nothing for his azz in traded now.

Leave it to Al !

Pick us up Josh!

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Smh at some of the comments,losing AL is a big blow,but the Hawks will definitely make the playoffs.I think it will hurt us more on the defensive end more than offense.I dont believe any of those old centers that people are mentioning can help us no more than Zaza.Dampier,Prizybilla,or any of those scrubs are the answer.I rather they resign Benson,at least he is quick,athletic,and can block shots.Once the team gets healthy,i still think the Hawks can be a 4 to 6 seed.

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LD says he has to keep us emotionally focsued.

Are these
guys in 3rd grade?

SMMFH

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Is it just me, or does this offense look A LOT more smoother tonight?

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Again, Zaza drives to the basket, flops, and moans.

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lol @ Josh..

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Chris Daniels, 7-0 265 lbs, 27 years old, just like Ivan, may be our best DLeague Center currently available. Averages 17.1 points and 9.6 rebounds per game – shoots over 53% from the field, and about 69% FT’s.

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I meant to say none of those scrubs are the answer.Zaza is better than any of those bombs Benson will most likely be the guy that gets the call,

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Josh is playing well but he looks tired…

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DMV – In the D.C. ‘burbs yes, but inside D.C. you gotta alot of really rough places.

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im saying every now and then we get some character from the negro census bureau to report on Dc and Houston for some reason..

who is this guy..

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Yes its much smoother out there.. Hmmmmmmmmmmm?

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Heard the AIDS and murder rate was high in the DMV

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Josh make a free throw please

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Zaza with the 2 inch vertical . . lol

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Why the racist comments, Hawks are winning??

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that was all most worse than that Bengal flop..

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Teague with the three.

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Marcus Lewis 6-8 245 – Averaging 15.5 points and 13.9 rebounds per game in DLeague – 25 years old

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Josh Smith playing like…an all-star?

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Hawks go on a run with Big Ivan in the game. I need to cop one of his jerseys.

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Poor TS. With Al hurt all the steam goes out of his schtick.

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Lmao,Seymour,Illuminati in full effect.U mean M.J.,or David Stern.

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Ivan kinda play like my created “my player”from 2k last year.. same number too..

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When Al isn’t around to play center, the Hawks give up a new career high in points to Byron Mullens.

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Ivan without both arms > Zaza.

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You all are crazy lol Al Horford is garbage. 10 ppg 8 rpg???? Good riddance Al. Josh Smith fa president

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Bad Call Ref

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Gerald Henderson is a pretty solid player. Ideal complementary player for a playoff team. It’s too bad he’s stuck on this garbage team.

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Sautee

January 12th, 2012
9:09 pm

Poor TS. With Al hurt all the steam goes out of his schtick.

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LOL

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Wow, we totally got away with a foul at the end of the third.

I do not like Pargo. Honestly, I think he sucks. Why would you foul right there?!?! Why?!? Again, he’s so lucky there wasn’t a call.

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Hawks = +19 in REB STAT

Impressive!

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Why is Zaza playing all these minutes,get Stack out there L.D.

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come on zaza…

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Zaza blows another layup.

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LOL, Shumpert is 3-15 in the first HALF for the Knicks.

How smart to take 15 shots when you have Melo and Amare?

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Put Joe, Josh and Teague in now.

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coach can’t play all the scrubs together at the same time…..straight terrible as a unit

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Get the starters back out there… Now….

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scrubs cant keep a lead for nothing

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“I just wonder what type of royster moves will be made.”

Just don’t sign an old washed up shortstop, please.

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Can’t take your starters out too early.

FIRE LD

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The betting window is open. How much time will be left on the clock when Ivan fouls out?

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damn josg got blown by

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Take notes from Ivan Zaza. That’s how it’s done.

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These last few games will make Ivan a very rich man in the NBA

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Big Ivan is putting on a clinic. We might need to sign him to an extension before he hits free agency.

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Nice finish Zaza. Could use more of those confident, strong finishes for the rest of the season.

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don’t fill to good unless hawks have a 35 point lead with about 30 sec to go in game,

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had ZaZa missed ivan had a put back..

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LOL@Bob on Ivan

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Lets start calling Ivan “Debo” lol

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LOL @ Debo

“That’s my bike punk”

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Rick Ross + Deshawn Stevenson genetic experientment results = Ivan Johnson

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aye Josh dont look bad from that spot..

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If Ivan started, he would foul out by the beginning of the fourth. I like his energy off the bench, it gives us spurts when we need them, which is all the time.

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Josh will be an all star this year,book it

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SteveW: thanks for sharing, I have about 20 patients who are Mormon spread across three families, just good people. Actually some of my favorites, personality wise.

I’d never thought about it until watching The Ed Show tonight, that I have never met any blacks. Good to know that you’re never too old to learn something new.

Hawks looking very well coached, Drew may get an extension after all, at this point and with this team, I wouldn’t be mad.

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Debo is racist…

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how many rebs josh got?

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Zaza – 4,750,000 this year

Big Ivan – 473,604 this year

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Free throws #7 and #8 for JJ

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there it goes

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Release Ivan!!

Moron!

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Good game Debo

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lol @ the gym clap trying to distract the shooters.. didnt know pros did that..

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STACK IN THE HOUSE

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IJ is like that goon from the “Lottery Ticket” movie that was ho-ing Bow Wow

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LMAO @ Zaza driving to the basket, giving that rocky yell.

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20pt lead with 4mins left. Take the starters out….

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ideal game from Josh following the Al injury..

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YEP SHEED IS RETIRED

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lol Stackhouse

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Atlanta just may be a better team because in addition to Josh showing leadership and working on his game in the offseason, teague and Ivan Johnson and Zaza will have to raise their games. The hawks will rise up. Nothing to slow the flow of the offense.

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(( standing ovation for JJ and Teague ))

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slick willie w/ the killer cross over..

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What’s that? 3 goal tends on Willie Green shots?

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I remember that SAC game last year – we were up 20+ with 6 minutes to go, and SAC almost came back and won. The Hawks scare me in these situations. 2 or 3 Three’s, a couple of turnovers, and you never know

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DEFENSE from the 5 spot!!!

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Last 5 games, Josh is playing the way we all knew he could. Best 5 game stretch I remember him playing really.

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great rebound game hawks, always gotta take care of business as home, well peeps guess I should head back to work, gotta love NBA League Pass Broadband, i’m out

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Please keep hating on Josh. it motivated him All summer while the darling of the blog page did nothing.

What a proverb.

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Air Stackhouse

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ASKG should offer FREE seats for all the college students or $5 tickets to fill them empty seats. Either way spread good will or make a little scratch to go towards the light bill, buy some jumbo-trons, pay for some rap music royalties or something.

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10/10 and a block for zaza…. Al like numbers

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STACKHOUSE DUNK!!!!!!!!!!! Oh wait… ITS A TRAP!!!

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Stack can still give em 40 per…

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“When your out 4 of your top 7, I don’t care if we beat the Dream at home, it’s still pretty good.”

I would have been more impressed with a win over the Dream. Angel McCoughtry > anyone on the Bobcats.

But a 30 point win in the NBA is impressive under almost any circumstances.

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Sloan looks so much better then Pargo as a backup PG. I can see taking the vet over the rookie if the vet has actually done something in the NBA, My question is what has Pargo done?

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Stackhouse Dunk on my screen…It’s amazing what that technology can do these days.

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I’d love $5 dollar tickets.

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I be trolling… ITS A TRAP!!

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“Play a real team, we’ll lose by 30 with this rag tag crew out there.”

Good teams beat the Bobcats by 30….

We just did.

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Josh with HUGH stats, 30 and 13, Joe with a great night also. I’m really surprised that we took it to the Bobcats like that. Ivan looks like he’s finally getting use to the heavy minutes and he has no problems using his fouls. Hopefully Marvin and Tracy are back for Sat. games.

GO HAWKS!!

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