Atlanta Hawks: Hawks 111, Bobcats 81
11:11 pm January 12, 2012, by Michael Cunningham
- Sorry for no game thread post, blog people. I was a tad busy.
- The Hawks for the most part didn’t try to play down the significance of losing Al Horford to injury (not that they really could). But they regrouped and went out and beat down the Bobcats, who had shown some pluck against superior opponents this season.
- “We had a few lapses defensively but our energy level was high,” Larry Drew said. “That’s something we look for every game. When we play with that type of energy and get up the floor and fly around, we are a pretty good club. And tonight we were flying around.”
- The most encouraging thing for the Hawks was that they dominated the boards against a pretty good rebounding team with size. Josh Smith (13 rebounds), Zaza Pachulia (10) and Ivan Johnson (seven in 21 minutes) did their thing but the Hawks got production from unlikely guys: Vladimir Radmanovic had eight rebounds, Joe Johnson had seven, and Jeff Teague had six.
- Josh said that’s the kind of effort the Hawks need without Horford available to help him hold it down on the back line: “Defense, rebounding, help each other out, gang rebounding. Even the guards have to come in there and help out a little bit. Ivan has done a good job thus far with the toughness. I think everyone else needs to pick it up.”
- Scoring was a group effort, too. The Hawks recorded 29 assists on 42 field goals as all five starters had at least three assists. “We took care of the basketball, we executed very well and we moved the ball,” Drew said. “I thought we played overall a really solid game.”
- The Bobcats tried to push Josh around but he was beasting. He had four of Atlanta’s 20 offensive boards. Josh also made four of his nine shots from outside of the paint while going 14 for 22.
- The Bobcats sent Tyrus Thomas at Joe with predictable results. Only a 2 for 8 night from the 3-point line prevented Joe from really going off. As it was, he got to the line for eight attempts (and made seven).
- Ivan (12 points on 9 shots, six fouls) isn’t polished but he’s athletic, energetic and physical. That is going to come in handy as the Hawks try to win ugly.
- Drew hadn’t decided on the starting center an hour before the game. He settled on Zaza but didn’t commit to it long term. I’m thinking that probably means Drew will use the “big” lineup when appropriate.
- “We will just kind of look at our opponent and look at the matchup and see what works best for us,” Drew said. “I was a little concerned because [Byron] Mullens plays like more of a four. He’s a pick-and-pop guy and forced Zaza on the perimeter a lot more but I thought Zaza adapted really well.”
- Ivan Johnson played center in spots but Drew said he’s “not necessarily” the backup center. Jason Collins didn’t see the court until garbage time.
- If the Hawks really are still trying to make the playoffs, I don’t see how they can make do without another veteran center. They have two guards who don’t see regular minutes and are using an undersized rookie at center. There don’t appear to be any good trade possibilities for Atlanta, at least not until Kirk Hinrich is healthy and his expiring contract might somehow fetch an effective big.
- Rick Sund: “The center position has some decent depth to it with Al and Zaza and Twin and we really wanted to add some toughness, and that’s why Ivan Johnson has been a nice plus for us. We’ll sit down and discuss everyything. No real decision tonight.”
- Drew said Tracy McGrady is scheduled to see a back specialist tomorrow and could play Saturday against the T-Wolves. Marvin Williams (ankle) is day-to-day. “I don’t know when he will be back to play,” Drew said of Marvin. “He was in here earlier and said he’s feeling good so hopefully he will be back soon.”
Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat
379 comments Add your comment
Rollo Lawson
January 14th, 2012
12:52 pm
Sign Rasheed Wallace. Thank you.
Ken Strickland
January 14th, 2012
12:58 pm
The thing that’s most surprising to me is the lack of info about what the Hawks plan to do, if anything, about replacing Horford. Will the Hawks try to tread water until Hinrich’s likely return, which would necessitate releasing someone anyway, and give some salary relief, and/or wait until the trade deadline? Marvin’s return would add more depth, scoring, rebounding and versatility.
vava74
January 14th, 2012
1:00 pm
Ken,
Horford is not physically undersized he is MENTALLY undersized.
If I had Horford’s body you can bet your ass that I would back out on Howard (neither will Ivan, for instance who is IMO only about 6′7″).
Well Horford is also a bit undersized physically because his wingspan is subpar but that is not the real problem.
vava74
January 14th, 2012
1:02 pm
Would NOT back out.
Worst kind of mistake!
RED APPLE
January 14th, 2012
1:11 pm
vava74 your point is made, but If you follow what Howard is saying, regardless of what Orlando does, shy of winning a championship. he wants out. Further, he could stay put through the end of the season or when ever the Magic runs out. At that point he is a free agent and is capable of signing where ever he choose. As for your projections, LOL, we all got them. Orlando’s not going any where, thanks for making me laugh this morning. I see your point and concur that Howard more likely will finish out the season in Orlando, which shouldn’t mean we have no chance of bring Howard home to a team that will make the playoffs with out a Al.
I also dont think we are going to miss Al in the playoffs. The dude brings nothing, when most players are asked to raise their games to its highest levels Al almost always evaporates into a non existence entity leaving behind 10 pt and 7 rebounds for a career playoff average.
For all the talk from the Al Horford nut glaziers about how we made the playoffs every year since Al got here, yea, Al piggybacked on a good thing. A more telling reference is that once we got to the playoffs Al farted and evaporated which explains why we did not advance very far. Al’s not the type of center to lead you deep into the playoffs, in fact, he doesn’t even want to play center, or defense for that matter.
What im saying is we are not out of the running for Dwight’s services. We can still offer him a chance at glory. and even if we don’t get Dwight, We can use Al, packaged, to upgrade the center position even if it means going to the draft.
We can do better than the ” Casper friendly ghost”,Al likes to pull, disappearing in big games and the playoffs. More over, that selfish “me” attitude Al brings cause the team a lot of internal turmoil.
Although Al may have pulled that on purpose to keep from getting traded and to get out of work, it still may be a blessing in disguise, because the team seems more at peace now and the offense is clicking and everybody is playing D. No more locker room fights. Problem solved.
RED APPLE
January 14th, 2012
1:13 pm
“Horford is not physically undersized he is MENTALLY undersized.” – as in not willing no heart.
Thank you Vava.
Maint-Man
January 14th, 2012
1:17 pm
Horford is not undersize when he come back he need to give Alonzo Mourning a call or hell Larry Drew needs to fire kenny G. and Tyrone Hill and hire Alonzo for the bench (Coach) lets stop making excuses and get some real Heart on the team. ATL Peopel “F*ck Rise Up” it time for us as city a team and fans it time for us to be MEN!!! (and Women) its time to Man Up its time to Get It!!!!!
yetta
January 14th, 2012
1:21 pm
What is it about Al that you love so much? Yes he is a good player but he does not hold this team together; maybe he keeps peace and is cute, but he does not make the rebounds, blocks or shots that Josh does. Josh has never gotten the credit he deserves from you fans, He always gives his all and maybe tries to do too much; he wants to WIN and takes chances that others fail to do.
Ken Strickland
January 14th, 2012
1:22 pm
VALVA74-If Horford, as you and others are fond of claiming, is truely undersized mentally and/or physically, with an undersized wingspan,and is playing out of position, then why did his peers and NBA HCs select him as the 3rd best “CENTER” in the entire NBA? Do you really think they bestowed that honor upon him because they share the opinion that you and others on these blogs have of him?
You are so hungup on him not getting it done exactly how you and others want him to do it, that you can’t accept that he’s getting it done anyway, his way. There’s an old saying that fits this situation, “DAMN THE REASON IF THE RESULTS ARE THE SAME”.
yetta
January 14th, 2012
1:39 pm
How is that? and what is he getting done? Could he do it when Josh is on the bench? Notice how many times he does nothing without the help of Josh. When Josh is on the bench nothing seems to work. Josh keeps this team together and gets it done the way he wants to.
northcyde
January 14th, 2012
1:48 pm
And you don’t sign Rasheed Wallace under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. He’s going to take and miss more outside jumpers than Josh Smith, and he’s not going to rebound the basketball in his old age.
Great Scott
January 14th, 2012
2:03 pm
Why does Ken Strickland like to keep his foot in his mouth? Is it the taste of rubber?
NBA HCs select him as the 3rd best “CENTER” in the entire NBA? ”
2 different coaches used the addition option to put Al on as a reserve. Last year as a reserve he scored 2 pts in 11 minutes, you do the math. His playoff average after 39 games? 10pts 7 rbs
The Allstar game votes for best in conference not the entire NBA (” 3rd best “CENTER” in the entire NBA”)
The All NBA title is awarded by the press
when it comes to what really matters, the fans. Al actually received 100k less votes than josh and 50k less votes than jj
as for centers the fans in the east conference saw AL as the 5th best and if you were to combine both conferences as you insinuate with your false statement,”entire NBA”, Al would be the 12th center by the allstar voting.
But what do the fans know, right? We just watch the games, millions of fans vote and 2 coaches have added Al as a reserve and now you have canonized his as king.
If you send me your address I will send you a wal-mart coupon for 1 stainless steel shoe horn. That should keep you blogging.
Great Scott
January 14th, 2012
2:10 pm
“he’s not going to rebound the basketball in his old age.” nor win any fights.
Why are bloggers stuck on has beens?
Id rather we do the best we can this year, trade Al and whomever is not named Josh,JJ or Marvin,or Ivan Johnson,( who’s willingness is the antithesis of Al’s unwillingness). and go after the best young natural center money can buy, through the draft or wherever.
Ryhmn and reason
January 14th, 2012
2:17 pm
Paradoxically we are a better team with out Al than with Al, particularly if you add the another player to compensate for the loss of Al.
Ryhmn and reason
January 14th, 2012
2:27 pm
Vava74 ,northcyde
Why not Mullens? Hes only played 1 year college, is a 7 ft-er a legitimate center, is very young, will come cheap. Will alter shots, and is long on potential?
Grandad
January 14th, 2012
2:27 pm
noy just for -Ken Strickland-
Putting Al horford’s size in perspective once and for all.
Al is 6-8 and 3/4. Al weighs 245.
Al’s wgt has been consistent; therefore it must be his playing wgt.
Al’s wing-span is 7′ 0.75″ which is above avg but not exceptional.
These measurements are consistent with an avg size to small pwr frwrd.
Al is listed at 6-10 / comparatively speaking;
Tim Duncan & kevin Garnett are both 7 ft + yet listed at 6-11.
*[note - Duncan and Garnett both play power forward]
** (their listed positions)
Conversely:
Ben Wallace listed hgt = 6-9 is questionable ?
B W’s listed wgt of 240 equally questionable ?
wallace’s wing-span unknown ? yet befitting a pterodactyl.
The huge difference here is ‘ Demeanor ‘ !
Demeaner you are debetter. Let’s face it,
Big Ben had the personality to play the [5] position !
More so than even Duncan and even the faux tough guy KG.
*(Rasheed played the [4] position) with Ben on the floor.
My point;
It ain’t got nothing to do with Al wanting to play the [4].
He is an undersized [4] at that. So is Josh / woefully small at the [4].
Why not wish to be oversized and not undersized.
Why do Duncan and KG not get criticized for wishing to play the [4].
* Both Hall of Famers.
(not a HOFer but Raseed was never criticized either for his position of choice)
Al is a good kid / I do not get it.
I do not understand why people don’t understand
this team needs a legit Center.
Al is a [4] Josh is a [3] and whether or not Josh is listed at
the [3] or [4] matters not offensively. LD plays him the same.
That’s motion offense. It’s defensive match-ups that would change.
I’m talking future / obviously – not currently / as of course Al is inj. !
I started out trying to make some sense and ended up with mish mash.
Grandad
January 14th, 2012
2:29 pm
*not just for – Ken Strickland
not
*[noy] just for – Ken Strickland
Ken Strickland
January 14th, 2012
2:31 pm
YETTA-I guess you see what you want to see, and/or what you feel supports your opinion of him. As for me, I’ll trust the opinion of the NBA players and coaches who go up against him gm after gm season after season. These are the same players and coaches that thought enough of what he does to select him to 2 straight Allstar gms, and recognize him as the NBAs 3rd best “CENTER” in just his 4th yr. Now why in hell would I ignore all of these DOCUMENTED FACTS, and accept the BIASED OPINIONS of a bunch of disgruntled fans with personal issues who can’t get over themselves long enough to see the forest for the trees?
Buy the way, what has TChandler, the so called true center that all of you were so eager for us to sign, done for the Knicks so far this season, or ABogat done for the Bucks? If you think Marvin or TMac is fragile, what do you think about Bogat? It appears that Chandler’s DEF abilities are no greater than the DEF talent he has around him. It also appears that he excels more at playing zone DEF than man to man.
All centers need help, just ask Dwight, who’s the NBAs most dominant center. Isn’t that why he wants out of Orlando? The Knicks claimed they needed a center, so they got Amare. Then they said they needed another scorer, so they got Carmelo. Then they said they needed a DEF center, so they got Tyson. And once they got Tyson, all of you STAR STRUCK fans immediately annointed them one of the top teams in the East. Well, how are they doing so far? I guess all of you conveniently forgot about all of that.
95
January 14th, 2012
2:34 pm
Would emeka okafor run the floor, defend and fit in with what this team is doing?
Grandad
January 14th, 2012
2:45 pm
Ken Strickland
The Hawks never put out any information.
They never put out any “propaganda”.
They never promote in any way, yet they whine about being poor
little rich boys that have no money.
They act as if the Hawks are some big secret and being secretive
will make the team alluring to the fans.
“Oh let us go down to Phillips Arena and see what is happening” ? ahhh !
Ken Strickland
January 14th, 2012
2:45 pm
GREAT SCOTT-I’ll bet you a millior dollars that everyone would rather have the foot in mouth, and the taste of rubber you claim I have, than head up A$$, and the taste of YOU KNOW WHAT that you obviously have.
GRANDAD-Ben Wallace was a very one dimensional player, who’s only requirement was to set picks on OFF, rebound and play DEF. And I don’t know if you noticed, but RWallace would also play the opposing center, depending who it was and the situation. Teams often left Wallace alone and used his man to double team. No one does that with Horford. Basically, Ben Wallace worked his butt off of DEF, and rested on OFF It was a known fact that Big Bens OFF liabilities rendered Detroit’s OFF to basically a 4 on 5 situation.
I just don’t see the Ben Wallace vs AHorford comparison, since their requirements and expectations are totally different.
Grandad
January 14th, 2012
2:46 pm
95
No
Just Joe
January 14th, 2012
2:48 pm
Yes, Okafor would fit in. What do we have to offer that a rebuilding team like New Orleans might want back in a trade? Hinrich’s expiring contract is my first guess.
Now, we have $61M committed to 6 players for next year. Let’s say you include Pachulia or Marvin in your Okafor trade. Then you could up that commitment to $69M for 6 players (Pachulia used) or $66M for 6 players (Marvin used). Both commitments mean that we would have to amnesty someone (never happen) or we have to pull off another trade this year to get rid of some salaries for next year.
Okafor is a tough fit unless the trade only involves guys that are under contract for next year (Jeff, Joe, Marvin, Josh, Al or Pachulia). Does Marvin & Pacuhlia for Okafor make us any better?
Rufus1
January 14th, 2012
2:51 pm
We need a TRUE CENTER in ADDITION to AL….
We need to Al to beat Miami and Chicago. Al is one of the best pick-n-roll bigs in the league and that skill is necessary to defeat those teams. Al isn’t great at one thing, but good at a number of things..
Shot blocking
Rebounding
Position defense
16-23ft jumper–He is GREAT at that.
Running the floor
Passing
What he isn’t good at…
finishing with his left hand
Being 7ft
If anyone thinks we are better missing all of those things……YOU ARE CRAZY!!!!
Ryhmn and reason
January 14th, 2012
2:52 pm
I guess it fair to say Al is 6′ 10″ 250 of mental unwillingness, who is a nice guy.
Ryhmn and reason
January 14th, 2012
2:55 pm
Shot blocking = 1.1 career average
Rebounding = 8 pg
Position defense ? we switch to help him out
16-23ft jumper–averages 12pts per game, 10 ppg in playoffs
NEXT SET OF OPINIONS MASQUERADING AS FACTS.
Rufus1
January 14th, 2012
2:55 pm
Emeka Okafor is the same height as AL, but has a longer wingspan 7′4…..Al is has more offensive skill.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Emeka-Okafor-3810/
Ken Strickland
January 14th, 2012
2:56 pm
GRANDAD-Being rich can be a relative issue. You can be rich on paper, you can be rich in assets, and you can be rich in cash flow. They may have been rich in assets, maybe even cash flow, before they bought the franchise and got entangled in their long running legal struggles with Belkin, but they are most likely rich only on paper now. None of us knows how much each owner leveraged their assets to buy this franchise, and how much they were hurt by their legal struggles and having to buy out Belkin.
I know it’s convenient and self gratifying for us to be critical of ownership for not spending heavily and playing a luxury tax to acquire the player or players we might like, but it is foolish for us to ignore what just might be the truth about their financial situation, just for the sake of that convenience and gratification.
Ken Strickland
January 14th, 2012
3:01 pm
VALVA74-Just let me say that I’m not being critical of you personally, or any reasonable person, for questioning certain things about Horford. My issue is with the clowns who make up BS, and either ignore, or try to trivialize what he’s does well and has accomplished.
Rufus1
January 14th, 2012
3:01 pm
Ryhmn and reason
Plaese stop acting like offense is the ONLY part of the GAME. PHX and Golden State would agree with me….DEFENSE MATTERS
Have you noticed that Marvin’s rebounds have gone UP….He also, may have had a slow start to the season, but his career numbers are 9.5 a game.
Great Scott
January 14th, 2012
3:03 pm
GREAT SCOTT-I’ll bet you a millior dollars….yadi yadi yadi yadi….
Ken the only way you will ever see a million dollars in on tv or the internet, You find it as easy to gamble with money you dont have as you do to argue with statements that arent true. Instead of smelling and speaking offensively why dont you rather prove your case with fact, than fiction?
Maybe then you can get your foot out of your mouth. You really look funny hooping around with that foot in your mouth.
Ken Strickland
January 14th, 2012
3:07 pm
Bottomline, whatever anyone thinks of AHorford, he’s an intrigal part of this team, and we’re going to have a very difficult time compensating for his loss. The bright side of this is, we now have a bench that’s experienced, deep, versatile and talented enough to keep this team from collapsing in his absence. While we’re a much better team with him, we will still be a good team without him. We could certainly use his rebounding and OFF presence against a rebounding machine like KLove. GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ryhmn and reason
January 14th, 2012
3:07 pm
Rufus1 We have found a place of agreeement. Lets build on that . Defense matters. Which is why we need a new center.
I also agree Al has 7′4″ wing span. Sadly it doesnt profit him. Which is why we need a new center.
I agree Marvin is playing just fine. and im sure the surgery helped him.
Bigman needed
January 14th, 2012
3:07 pm
Just joe: marvin and zaza for okafor makes us better. I will miss both players, but okafor is a consistent rebounder and low post defender, runs the floor a little, will be more physically gifted night in night out than opponent’s center, leader, good locker room guy (ok charles we have too many nice guys) and the josh, al, okafor frontline would be one of the most talented in basketball.
Offload henrich as suggested to LA for trade exception. Okafor will only be 1 year away from expiring with just 2 additional years left
Rufus1
January 14th, 2012
3:07 pm
“Position defense ? we switch to help him out”- Ryhmn and reason
You just lost your credibility….Maybe your are referring to Bibby, when he would switch to guard a center on the block because Al could guard him?
O'Brien
January 14th, 2012
3:09 pm
Ken S,
The thing that’s most surprising to me is the lack of info about what the Hawks plan to do, if anything, about replacing Horford..
That’s the Hawks for you. From MC’s article;
“There is nothing been discussed [about a roster move],” Drew told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution…But we are not going to hit the panic button right now and start bringing in guys. We are not quite sure if that’s the actual move we want to make. We are still evaluating the situation.”.
Personally, I dont see how bringing in guys to work out means you’re hitting the panic button. And why wait until the Hawks lose 2 or 3 in a row, or when the frontcourt starts struggling, to start discussing plans and bringing in guys to audition?
Be proactive!
Rufus1
January 14th, 2012
3:13 pm
Ryhmn and reason
Their study on the Battier’s effect on a team beyond the number. Al is that player for the Hawks.
Do we need a center, YES. I just don’t want to disrespect what he brings…
I was referring to Emeka has a 7′4 wingspan.
Just Joe
January 14th, 2012
3:16 pm
I believe we won’t sign anyone, becuase that means paying the luxury tax. I think we will make a trade instead, which takes time, and therefore “There is nothing being discussed….We are still evaluating the situation.”.
Just Joe’s trade: Marvin & Hinrich for Morrow & Okur. It makes too much sense for both teams.
Agent 86
January 14th, 2012
3:17 pm
“Bottomline, whatever anyone thinks of AHorford, he’s an intrigal part of this team, and we’re going to have a very difficult time compensating for his loss.”
in the words of Maxwell Smart agent 86, the ole foot in mouth trick… third time to day.
Al is no longer an integral part of this team. Al is now a spectator whose role is to cheer, hold clip boards and pass out towels and gatoraid, (befitting pun is there grandad).
How difficult is it to replace 12 pts and 8 rbs? Zaza had a double double the first night.
“clowns who make up BS, and either ignore, or try to…yadi, yadi,yadi ”
“NBA HCs select him as the 3rd best “CENTER” in the entire NBA? ”
2 different coaches used the addition option to put Al on as a reserve. Last year as a reserve he scored 2 pts in 11 minutes, you do the math. His playoff average after 39 games? 10pts 7 rbs
The Allstar game votes for best in conference not the entire NBA (” 3rd best “CENTER” in the entire NBA”)
The All NBA title is awarded by the press
when it comes to what really matters, the fans. Al actually received 100k less votes than josh and 50k less votes than jj
as for centers the fans in the east conference saw AL as the 5th best and if you were to combine both conferences as you insinuate with your false statement,”entire NBA”, Al would be the 12th center by the allstar voting.
But what do the fans know, right? We just watch the games, millions of fans vote and 2 coaches have added Al as a reserve and now you have canonized his as king.
Rhymn and reason
January 14th, 2012
3:21 pm
marvin and zaza for okafor makes us better – NOT
Bigman needed
January 14th, 2012
3:27 pm
Bringing in okur makes sense since okur is 7ft and breathing, but doesn’ t seem like the kind of move to put us over the top to ecf. Wont be a rush on season ticket sales. But It definitely would help us.
Rhymn and reason
January 14th, 2012
3:28 pm
“I was referring to Emeka has a 7′4 wingspan” – noted.
Still doesnt change Al attitude. Al plays 6′4″ 195, which is sad for a man 6′10″ 250
Rhymn and reason
January 14th, 2012
3:31 pm
Bigman needed I feel you on that but Im just not giving up Marv and Zaza for a player that is not much better than Zaza if he is .
Zaza can hold it down while we make the right decision for a replacement for the often injured and unwilling Al .
Just Joe
January 14th, 2012
3:32 pm
Just for fun, Alex Ajinca in two games so far for Hyeres-Toulon: 70 minutes, 42 points, 20 rebounds, 9 blocked shots, 70% on 2pt FG’s, 33% on 3pt FG’s, and 90% on free throws.
Bigman needed
January 14th, 2012
3:39 pm
Varejao is 3rd in rebounding and on the block. Any chance we can get in on him?
Ken Strickland
January 14th, 2012
3:39 pm
GREAT SCOTT-Remember what I said about NOT BEING ABLE TO SEE THE FOREST FOR THE TREES?
FACT 1-Horford has been an ALLSTAR the last 2yrs of his 4yr career.
FACT 2-Horford was selected as the NBA’s 3rd best center last yr.
FACT 3-Horford is one of the NBAs best all around centers.
FACT 4-Horford is THE NBAs most accurate and effective midrange jump shooters.
FACT 5-Horford isn’t too undersized, soft, mechanical, mentally of physically weak, to be voted the NBAs 3rd best “CENTER.”
Where are your facts, assuming you actually have any? And remember, your wishful thinking and uninformed opinions aren’t FACTS. Let’s hope you can get your head out of you A$$.
Rhymn and reason
January 14th, 2012
3:43 pm
“Maybe your are referring to Bibby, when he would switch to guard a center on the block because Al could guard him?”
Bibby has been long gone and Al is still (was still) out on the perimeter guarding guards and small forwards. That wasnt Bibby issue. Al often jumps on the first train leading from under the rim, forcing his team mates to cover the post for the area now vacated. Al just did not like playing center. His attitude was as such,” you can put me there but I wont like it” instead of embracing the opportunity and taking ownership.
For All you guys who want to move Al to the four and Josh to the three. Why dont you just take out your 1 bullet and shoot yourself in the foot? Why should we down grade the 4 to accommodate Al’s demands? Al’s not as good a power forward as Josh. The idea is to get better not worse.
What do you think the fighting in the locker room was about?
Ken Strickland
January 14th, 2012
3:47 pm
AGENT 86- Or whoever you are. When a player is selected as an All Star, it means he’s considered one of the most popular and/or talented players in either the Eastern or Western Conference. But when a player is selected ALL NBA, it means he’s consider one of the 3 top performers at his position in the ENTIRE NBA. Again, you’re so busy with your own selfserving BS, you can’t get the facts straight.
Rufus1
January 14th, 2012
3:51 pm
“Bigman needed I feel you on that but Im just not giving up Marv and Zaza for a player that is not much better than Zaza if he is .”-Rhymn and reason
Co-sign. Marvin and Zaza are going to give us 20-25pts and 15-18 rebounds a game. Okafor won’t give the Hawks close to that.
SteveW
January 14th, 2012
3:55 pm
About DWade:
“Dwyane Wade’s had countless sprained ankles in his life but said he was never in as much pain as he was after rolling his right ankle Friday night.
Wade said he feared his ankle was broken after he landed on Denver Nuggets forward Al Harrington’s foot in the fourth quarter of the Miami Heat’s 117-104 loss. X-rays showed that wasn’t the case. But Wade’s status was unclear as he left the Pepsi Center with the Heat on a three-game losing streak.”
DWade has had a calf strain, a sore foot, and now this already this season. His style of play leads to physical break downs as you get older. He turns 30 in a few days. I stick by my prediction that there’s a good chance, come the end of March or so, he’s out – and I don’t think LeBron and Bosh can lead Miami to a championship. We’ll see on all counts.
And let me add I love DWade’s style of play