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drmaryb.[*_*].
January 6th, 2012
1:03 pm
Worldwide Pride!
“On the other hand Joe Johnson, Marvin, Jsmooth, and Horford I turn my back on yall. Yall are a disgrace. If I was the owner I would have suspended yall for that effort last night. ” -wolrdwide clyde-
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Copyright it … Trademark it … Fire up the T-Shirt presses! Just brilliant comments this morning.
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Like worldwide clyde, I would suspend the starters he named for:
Conduct detrimental to the team.
Impersonating a NBA employee.
Oh yeah, and: you guessed right – FIRE DREW! Last I heard, Paul Westphal is available. The fact that he never backed down to the mental midget, (Cousins) should be qualifying enough. Go get a Real GM today, and trade the dead weight by the All Star break. Remove Drew now, so you can assess this group under a Real Coach. Get Larry Brown to tell you who to get rid of on this roster. I have my opinions – but, who am I?
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
January 6th, 2012
1:06 pm
“Why did Elle duncan strut around half clothed trying to get a dried up hawk last night?”
There be a lot of women like that at the Hawks game. Too many groupies that could care less about the game and not enough die hard fans.
KevinM
January 6th, 2012
1:08 pm
northcyde, I see nothing but upside with the 29YO rook….
He energized this team and I saw him at the practice stand out and every time on the court, he looked like he belonged.
I could see him getting regular rotation minutes and take Zaza or VRad’s minutes away….they are contributing very little. I lost my zest for Zaza against Chicago when he looked like a backup from high school who was only playing because he was tall.
Barkley said he is the best big man on this team behind Al.
“They don’t have energy coming off that bench.” – Charles
“The Atlanta Hawks need toughness; I like his motor. He just walks around bumping into people.” – Charles
mykhalc
January 6th, 2012
1:09 pm
same as previous years…KA BOOM PLEASE!!! props to Ivan tho!! cat showed what it’s like to play the game with pride and energy. this entire organization is just plain a$$ STUPID…PERIOD!!!
KevinM
January 6th, 2012
1:10 pm
“Peter
January 6th, 2012
1:00 pm
Please not a blogger mentioned the hawks scored ZERO points in the 3rd over time.”
See my post on Page 4 at 12:19PM
kwooden
January 6th, 2012
1:11 pm
I actually think this game is indicative of the NBA today, most players don’t like to grind. Guys want highlight dunks and killer cross-overs, but they don’t want to set a solid screen or box out their man. I believe the guys always play hard and want to win, but that is different than being desperate to compete. A competitor doesn’t care who the opponent is, but they want the best from their opponent because they want to win against the best. Lebron, Wade and Bosh are examples of this attitude because they thought it would be to much work to win a Championship separate, so they decided to make it easier on themselves and get together. Our HAWKS have the same attitude. Once things start to get tough, they’re like “enough is enough”. JJ wants to be great and be a hero, so does Josh and Al, but they aren’t desperate enough to consistently do what it takes. Those guys have to knock down open shots!! PERIOD. They can’t accept poor play from themselves. Josh has to get to the basket on every opportunity, not some opportunities but everyone!! If he has to shoot a late shot-clock jumper fine, but otherwise it should be constantly attacking his opponent. JJ has to make open shots, PERIOD. I’m not worried about the hero fadeways, those go in sometimes and sometimes not, but the open shots have to fall! Al has to stop his pathetic weak-side help defense. Stop watching guys lay the ball in and give a hard foul. Go after every rebound, whether its near you or not. Ivan is an example of many of the guys coming from the D-League, desperate just to have an opportunity to play. They’re not worried about highlights or perceptions they just want to play, because they know tomorrow is not guaranteed.
GO HAWKS!!
Hmmmm
January 6th, 2012
1:13 pm
THERE ARE DAMN NEAR AS MANY WOMEN AS MEN AT EVERY HAWKS GAME, IT’S ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY. AND ALMOST NO WHITES IN ATTENDANCE EITHER. THE HAWKS DO NOT APPEAL TO EVERY DEMOGRAPHIC. JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF ASG STUDPITY – INEFFECTIVE MARKETING. I MAYBE WRONG BUT I DOUBT IT LOL
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
January 6th, 2012
1:14 pm
Big Ivan is the heart and soul of this team right now. If you ain’t hard nosed you don’t deserve to play. There’s some folks on the Hawks that play like they got a lil sugar in they tank. We need to sit they azz down and let someone else take they spot on the roster.
FIRE LD
KevinM
January 6th, 2012
1:15 pm
The easiest thing for players to do is shoot a jump shot. That doesn’t take a lot of work.
Its the other things that make the difference and we should be able to pound on the Heat interior and dominate the paint. We have all-star Al and all-star hopeful Josh.
Let me ask this; is our talent as good as Portland? I think so, but we don’t have the coaching to prove it.
Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde
January 6th, 2012
1:20 pm
KWOODEN I agree.
How does a guard who can’t shoot free throws get into the NBA?
Its starts at the middle and high school level. Fancy dribbling and dunking is more important than shooting and passing.
Nathan2331
January 6th, 2012
1:20 pm
Would it be possible at the end of the season to amnesty Joe Johnson, sign Dwight Howard, then resign Joe to a minimum contract. We could even resign Kirk Hinrich and any other player that was on our roster, given we go into luxury tax.
here is hoping behagen gets his
January 6th, 2012
1:22 pm
just deserts. stealing from an Alzheimer patient is not his most infamous act. for those of you who dont remember……
“On January 25, 1972, Behagen was involved in one of the most serious on-court incidents in college basketball history when he and several teammates attacked Ohio State University’s Luke Witte. According to the Big Ten Conference’s review of the game film, Witte appeared to elbow Minnesota guard Bobby Nix as the two teams headed to their locker rooms at halftime. As the game progressed, Ohio State established a 50-44 lead with less than a minute to play when Minnesota’s Clyde Turner flagrantly fouled Witte during a layup attempt, knocking Witte to the ground. Corky Taylor of Minnesota helped Witte up, then kneed Witte in the groin. A melee between the two teams ensued, and Behagen came off the bench to stomp Witte in the head, leaving him unconscious.[4] Ohio State coach Fred Taylor described it as “the sorriest thing [he] ever saw in intercollegiate athletics.”[5] Behagen and Corky Taylor were suspended for the rest of that season,[6] though Witte did not press charges against either.[7][8]”
hope he spends the rest of his life behind bars.
Hmmmm
January 6th, 2012
1:24 pm
“Let me ask this; is our talent as good as Portland? I think so, but we don’t have the coaching to prove it.”
LAMARCUS ALDRIDGE IS A TOP 20 PLAYER, LET’S NOT OVERRATED THE BLAZERS. THEY HAVEN’T WON A PLAYOFF SERIES IN 10 YEARS AND LOST TO INFERIOR TEAMS DURING THAT TIME. THEY HAVE HAD THIS SAME CORE FOR A WHILE ANDMCMILLAN IS NOT A GREAT COACH. WE HEAR ABOUT THE BLAZERS EVERY YEAR BUT NO ONE BRINGS UP THEIR POSTSEASON FUTILITY. LIKE I SAID, THEY’RE THE KNICKS OF THE WEST. LOTTA HYPE.
kwooden
January 6th, 2012
1:24 pm
Charles was being himself the entire game, he lets you know what he feels when he feels it. He’s not going to tell you the right way to fix the problem, he’s going to tell you what he thinks at that moment is the right way. Charles’s played with an attitude and chip on his shoulder because he was an undersized low post player. Charles wasn’t scared to get in a fight with Shaq, do you really think that he would hold back from saying what he feels about the HAWKS. He will praise you if you perform, he will kill you if you fail to perform. That’s Charles. He’s clearly right that the HAWKS have to learn mental toughness, which doesn’t happen overnight and doesn’t just happen over a period time. The HAWKS are going to have to play a lot of tight games and start winning several tight games. They’re going to have to execute their offensive against hard competition and still get easy shots. They’re going to have to get a better feel on defensive and really consistently help each other.
the video of the brawl....
January 6th, 2012
1:26 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxnCY0CZ1pE
n-trigue
January 6th, 2012
1:27 pm
I guarentee we wont see Ivan again!!! And Drew saying the players took thier guard well the coaching let their game down too. Two games in a row where the coaching has been poor in crucial situations. Ivan is in the same situation as Teague was last yr the same for Sloan id rather have hime play mins than Pargo!
Harpie
January 6th, 2012
1:28 pm
Larry Drew is an idiot, and he proved that last year. Why did anyone expect better than what the Hawks are showing, when they have the same clueless coach dragging them down?
i think that
January 6th, 2012
1:31 pm
Paul Hewitt would coach the Hawks for a 2 mil a year contract that has a buyout of 8 million and rolls over ever year.
mykhalc
January 6th, 2012
1:32 pm
and Charles just spoke the truth last nite about the Hawks. and he called the Battier (sp?) on JJ play dead-on as soon as he saw it. and what happened…Shane shut him down!!! a team that only has support players sums up this team perfectly (as Charles said). for those that paid to see the game last nite at least Ivan gave you what you paid to see…
Astro Joe
January 6th, 2012
1:34 pm
After a good few quarters, TMac became the team’s “leader”. After a few good quarters, Ivan has become the “heart & soul” of the Hawks.
Both statements are so sad on so many levels thatit makes my head spin. That and Josh has the team’s highest basketball IQ.
Wow.
Neki
January 6th, 2012
1:37 pm
First of all, i can understand that angry is going on right now but Hawks did deserve it, all of it.
You had a chance to make a statement against the East Conf Champs on your home court with their 2 best players out because of injures. But not only they mess it up the only bright spot was a guy until this year was playing basketball for the D-League and in Korea. In the NBA, that happens but when you are a team that is close to being one of the elites in this sport, you can’t let stuff like that happens and now, nobody will give you any respect even you did rebound because they know that you will mess it up again.
This core needs to change or starters needs to be benched for the CHA game tonight.
mykhalc
January 6th, 2012
1:43 pm
IF Josh ACTUALLY had the highest BB IQ on the team then it’s WAAAAYYYYY worse than i even imagined!!!
it’s clear the BB IQ belongs to TMac…shame his knees keep him from havin’ more of an impact on this bunch of support players…
Slimjr
January 6th, 2012
1:46 pm
You gotta bench da bums………….
peter deter weter
January 6th, 2012
1:58 pm
All jokes aside…well limited.
These players need to go back to the fundamentals of BB and learn how to make good passes, take good shots, free throws, etc. You cannot expect to dunk all the time for the past 15 years are so the NBA has gotten real sloppy. We need more players like Tim Duncan that know fundamentals and are smart…David Robinson…
honest_abe
January 6th, 2012
2:02 pm
start kenny gattison, tyrone hill and nick van exel. they might show a little more heart than those overpaid bums!
MattP
January 6th, 2012
2:03 pm
The reason I really want the Hawks to get Howard is that he will show these owners what a real superstar will do to the fans and team. I would like for him to accept his player option but I wouldn’t really care if he doesn’t want to sign an extension.
peter deter weter
January 6th, 2012
2:08 pm
Start some of those ladies of the night looking for a hawk
Jeff.Smith.Johnson.Leuer.Bogut
January 6th, 2012
2:13 pm
BBIQ is a funny thing. Smith takes the same shots everyone else takes. Just because he;s “athletic” doesnt mean he can jump over people.
You have no jumper then you have to use handle to score, And Smith’s is not that good.
Iso-Smith and drive and kicks is still better than Iso-Marvin/Iso-Horford and kick to Smith.
You all count the jumpers. How many drive and kicks did Smith make?
He said he lost weight to get out and run the wing. To chase SFs around screens. Horford wanted to play Forward more. Why is Marvin starting. Why is that?
Because neither Smith or Horford can shoot 3s, and it screws up offense to have them outside.
So Problem. is a Catch-22
A) we play undersized
or
B) we play regular size and Smith/Horford are stuck outside.
The Answer is C) make the trade. AND no one gives a flying F**k about Freudian debates about Smith going to college or Horford’s All Star appearances.
40 minutes. 0 FTA. I said I was not going to do it, but I will go back and compile Smith and Horford’s touches, scores, bad passes, missed shots, all that.
Predijuced is as prejudiced does.
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The Hawks have always weighed the merits of keeping, or moving, Smith and Horford. Both are tweeners. Horford is undersized at center but doesn’t have a face-the-basket game for power forward. Smith has crazy athleticism and skills for someone 6-foot-10 but too often falls in love with 20-foot jumpers. Both are in their primes, so holding onto them much longer would hurt their trade value. —–Shaun Powell nba.com——-
As I write this Im watching Smith pick up PG Mario Chalmers at halfcourt.
Stay tuned.
Yet he’s still playing the PF. Whatever, I agree with Charles he’s a good role player. People get suckered in by athleticism but please. He’s a good role player. And you have to break up the core, starting with Horford because he’s the best chip to cash in.
We get defensive anchor in Bogut and fill it in with scorers. And I abs
Smith.Leuer.Bogut
January 6th, 2012
2:15 pm
SMDH What is a good shot?
They don’t get easy shots.
Horford post ups? Joe Johnson at SF vs Battier. (As I write Battier blocks Joe Johnson in 2OT)
Or PF Smith faceup and slash on Bosh. Smith relying on perimeter skills to beat bigger opponents.
Is that your Gameplan? Well kudos to people saying same old same old crap.
drmaryb.[*_*].
January 6th, 2012
2:16 pm
Prove It!
If the ASKG and Hawks don’t like what Sir Charles said? Then PROVE him wrong. That’s the best revenge.
“People are gonna’ talk about you till the day you die. It doesn’t matter what people call you, it only matters what you answer to.” -Madea in Family Reunion”
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The Hawks answer to the name: soft.
SteveW
January 6th, 2012
2:22 pm
AJ – Um, I didn’t say he played like it. But last year Josh coached Drew some, like during the Magic game, and the Clippers game. He has a great, phenomenal BB IQ – he just can’t translate it into his own life usually.
When he does, like that game in the Bulls series last year, he can take over. But the mental toughness is just not consistently there.
SteveW
January 6th, 2012
2:23 pm
About 0 pts in OT – See post last nite right after the game
SteveW
January 6th, 2012
2:25 pm
TMac is the leader if he wants it AJ. You got any suggestions?
SteveW
January 6th, 2012
2:28 pm
AJ – And I didn’t make the comment about Ivan – but he was our heart and soul last nite.
Who’s your idea of the heart and soul of the Hawks?
I say it changes thru stretches, and right now it’s the crippled TMac.
Same old story
January 6th, 2012
2:29 pm
I watched the majority of the first 6 games was getting excited when beat heat in Miami then ecstatic when they were blowing out Chicago but as usual these punks with no heart let bulls come back and win then can’t beat heat scrubs at home pathetic losers no more hawks for me this year sent this crap team and ownership to another state nobody gives a crap
Smith.Leuer.Bogut
January 6th, 2012
2:30 pm
Madea
Josh Smith did translate it last night. Like that game against the Bulls?
Your gameplan is for Smith to lead breaks and throw alley oops to your center? From the PF position.
And fat Smith is gone. He’s a SF, you see him on the wing and Teague on the break yesterday. That should be every play. Move him to SF and get a shooter to replace tweener Marvin at PF.
Undersized team. Terrel Harris is 6′5? 14 rebounds.
3 Tweeners: Marvin, Smith, Horford
Undersized team. Get Bigger, rebound and man up.
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As I write, offense stagnates, Josh Smith playground crossover and shoots a 3. Looks stupid until Joe comes back and does the same thing.
GTFOH. Smith would not take those shots if he wasn’t told to be a superstar.
Slimjr
January 6th, 2012
2:30 pm
Sit the Ladies down…That includes Catwoman….She can sit with MISS UNIVERSE….
Wave that white towel! U look marvelous!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LMFAO!!
SteveW
January 6th, 2012
2:31 pm
Al the Heart and Soul of the Hawks!!!! Ha, don’t make me laugh. As a rookie maybe
JJ? Hahahaha
Josh? – Sometimes, at least he shows he cares sometimes.
Teague? – Sometimes, but then he just disappears
ZaZa? – A few times, but most of the time invisible
Marvin – HaHaHaHahaHaHahaHaHahaHaHaHaHaHaHahahahaahhahahhhahahhahahhahahah!!!!!!
Pargo, Willie Green, Vlad Rad, Collins????
SteveW
January 6th, 2012
2:33 pm
SLB – Josh needs to be Dennis Rodman, not Josh McRoberts.
Be Cliff Levingston for all I care. At least Cliff knew he couldn’t hit a J, and had a motor on D, at the rim attacking, and rebounding.
The Truth
January 6th, 2012
2:34 pm
The Perfect Storm of the Worse Proportion for the Hawks:
1) Picking a nationally televised TNT game against the Heat (w/o Lebron and Wade) to play awful
2) With (Big Mouth) unprofessional Barkley as the prosecuting attorney presenting a compelling case as to why the Hawks SUCKS (in general)
3) With (Big Mouth) unprofessional Barkley as the prosecuting attorney presenting a compelling case as to why JJ is overpaid!
4) With (Big Mouth) unprofessional Barkley as the prosecuting attorney presenting a compelling case as to why the Hawks team is soft (with no balls)
While attorney Barkley ranted with his very convincing but extremely obnoxious arguments for 4 hours to the jurors of the national audience, the defense attorneys (who happened to be the Hawks players and coaches themselves) offered little resistance to convince otherwise.
It turned out to be an easy victory for the prosecutor and a major setback for the defense and that is “The Truth”
But there’s another “Truth” to this story. In reality, Barkley is no attorney. In fact, he never graduated from college. He’s a ring-less former NBA player, NBA commentator and entertainer.
Barkley failed as a NBA commentator for his lack of objectivity inside the CNN center downtown ATL. His views were narrow and short-sighted. Though he correctly told part of the Hawks story. Frankly, it was an insult listening to him. He disrespected the Hawks overall accomplishments. Hawksville can bash the Hawks on these blogs but a NBA commentator must be professional and tell the full story. These Hawks have not been a total failure as Barkley would have us believe. Hubie Brown would have covered the same points Barkley made but objectively interjected other aspects of their accomplishment. For viewers who rarely allowed the Hawks, listening to Barkley, you would think the Hawks was a lottery team and never made the playoffs. Barkley should never again be a NBA commentator covering games because he’s only interested in the team who wins the championship. Since Barkley himself has never won a championship, he looks hypocritical since he also has laid bricks on some nights as a player. He certainly didn’t make watching that game entertaining so he failed there as well.
SteveW
January 6th, 2012
2:38 pm
The Leader of the Hawks – JJ – Mr. Anti-Clutch
Josh – Nah
Teague – Rook still too young
Al – Using Marvin’s invisible dust
Marvin – Hahahahahahahhahahahahahaha
ZaZa – Nope
Collins – Huh?
Stack – Who’s he?
Ivan – rarely plays, not his role
Willie G – Boy well, um no.
Pargo – Yea that’s it, he has played backup to CP3 and Rose…No
Hmmm – I guess that leaves TMac with the job if he wants it – at least for now!
SteveW
January 6th, 2012
2:39 pm
Leader of the Hawks
Man, I forgot about Vlad “Mr. forgot how to shoot 3’s” Rad. I don’t think so
SteveW
January 6th, 2012
2:42 pm
Maggette’s out tonite for Charlotte – Shhhh, nobody tell the Hawks!
SteveW
January 6th, 2012
2:46 pm
Lowery’s been charged with Assault for throwing a basketball at a female ref in Las Vegas.
He’s wanted on a second charge of assaulting the Hawks with 18 dimes Saturday
tidog
January 6th, 2012
2:46 pm
There was no motion to the offense last night, oops I that LD was going to fix that my bad.
Section 303
January 6th, 2012
2:47 pm
northcyde, my irritation with Barkley comes more from his take on the fans reaction to Ivan Johnson (I said this earlier, too). Calling the fans clueless (that’s what I hear he said) for not recognizing Ivan’s efforts is crap. The fans stood and applauded. Plus, when Ivan came out of the game (the time before he fouled out) it was right at a time when people were distracted by something else (can’t remember exactly on this….think it was when they overturned the out-of-bounds call on the Heat).
Again…been to areas/stadiums all over the country. Most fans are just like Atlanta’s. Very few are really anything “special”. Atlanta fans, for whatever reason, just become a media whipping boy, representing all that bad fans are. It’s bullsh#t.
Like the Braves (and I’m not even a Braves fan) getting grief for not selling out playoff games. Other teams have similar issues. It’s just stupid.
But, whatever….spent too much time on this stupid team today. Talk to you guys sometime after we get our a$$ kicked by the Bulls.
Rufus1
January 6th, 2012
2:57 pm
@The Truth
Post of the this short YEAR……Well written.
Hmmmm
January 6th, 2012
3:01 pm
OK OK MAYBE BARKLEY SHOULD HAVE POINTED OUT HOW GREAT THE HAWKS JERSEYS LOOK LOL WHAT ELSE WAS HE GOING TO TALK ABOUT? “WOW MARVIN REALLY OUTHUSTLED THAT 3RD STRINGER” “THE HAWKS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB VS NORRIS COLE” LOL
IF DREW CAME OUT IN THE POSTGAME AND SAID “I THINK WE WERE INTIMINATED BY BARKLEY’S PRESENCE AND ALL THE MEAN THINGS HE WOULD SAY” I’D BELIEVE HIM LOL. BARKLEY WAS EXACTLY WHAT THAT GAME NEEDED, NOT HOMERS MAKING EXCUSES. THERE SHOULD BE A CLEARANCE SALE SIGN IN FRONT OF THE LOCKERROOM “EVERY HAWK MUST GO! FOR THE LOW LOW PRICE OF WHATEVER YOU GOT” LOL
Sautee
January 6th, 2012
3:05 pm
Flavor Flav at 10.01 am.: “Its stuff like this that makes me question you being “superior”! “If we don’t want them who will? If we cant win with them then who can?”
So “superiorblogman is less than superior because no one would want to trade for these players, eh?
Flavor Flav at 2:13 pm.:
“So Problem. is a Catch-22
A) we play undersized
or
B) we play regular size and Smith/Horford are stuck outside.
The Answer is C) make the trade.”
LOL @ “make the trade” hours after you said “If we don’t want them who will? If we cant win with them then who can?”
So if “we” don’t want Horford, suddenly the Bucks will “want” to trade for him?
Well, that’s certainly a contradiction. No one wants these players when another blogger posts a trade, but when FF posts, then somehow minds are changed.
LMFAO
drmaryb.[*_*].
January 6th, 2012
3:05 pm
Shaw-Shank Redemption!
Tonight will be an opportunity for redemption. Perhaps, prison mike can take Twins bench seat tonight and just shank DRose if he gets outa’ control in the paint? Anyone ever heard of “no layups” in the paint. Make the Bulls think twice before coming inside.
The problems here are like world economics. Too complex to solve as is.