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Slimjr
January 6th, 2012
11:02 am
This game is a keeper. Gonna archive it…LOL ans Sir Charles and Reggie!!!!!!!! Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Prison Mike: All NBA plays femalish on Defense!!! Dayum!!!!!!!!!!!! LMFAO!
Al=Catwoman
Larry Drew is clueless……………
Grandmaster JeJe
January 6th, 2012
11:02 am
10) *********MOST IMPORTANTLY*********: Charles Barkley’s 2nd half analysis of our team has got to be the most brutally honest evaulation I have ever heard of this team.
He is right: we are a bunch of nice guys with ZERO LEADERSHIP. We have 3 captains (how did having 6 or so captains in New York work out for the Jets?), none of whom talk or give any quality leadership for this team.
——When LD said he needs to try find minutes for Ivan, I almost lost it. YOU ARE BUSY PLAYING VLADIMIR RADMANOVIC, WHO HAS NOT HIT A 3 POINTER SINCE THE COLD WAR and you are talking about lacking playing time for someone who THOROUGHLY OUTPLAYED our entire front line, and possibly, the team?
11) Ivan’s performance last night showed more heart, tenacity, and energy than anything I have EVER seen out of Marvin Williams. There is NOT ONE POSITIVE out of us starting Marvin Williams. The announcers said Josh does not do one thing well. What the HELL does Marvin do well?
12*****) WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO OUR FREE THROW SHOOTING? You can’t even expect these guys to hit both free throws anymore (oh wait, Ivan did, and Joe did once. God Forbid you make 20358726308372 dollars a year and have to make a free throw)
Did these guys FORGET how to shoot free throws over the summer?
13) People are seriously overlooking Charlotte. This team ALWAYS beats us once a season (usually at Philips). Plus, Maggette may be out, meaning we lose by default.
14) I hope in that 4th quarter where Ivan was in and Marvin and Smoove were out for ages, that they felt MISERABLE
16) JOSH, STOP TAKING JUMPSHOTS
My resolution: Start players who want to win.
KevinM
January 6th, 2012
11:04 am
When you miss 15 FTs, you should have a lot to answer for….start taking it out of their wallet and see if it matters then, especially JT and Josh….Al has nothing to worry about…he isn’t trying to get to the line. Strange to see Al foul out as well.
We should have dominated their inside game last night….2 all-stars vs. 1….
Lucky there is a game tonight, so they can put this behind them, because if they don’t, CHA will take it to us.
Wabe
January 6th, 2012
11:06 am
And relax with the Teague bashing…
The overall team defense in general was terrible last night. You have no idea whether he’s supposed to switch on those picks or what.
Teague’s shown he can play defense. Must I remind you what we were forced to watch in the past with Mike Bibby defending…
There’s a reason why the Hawks were statistically the #1 ranked defensive team in the NBA going into last night. It’s because they’re better defensively at every position than they’ve been in years past, and the major change would be the guy guarding that PG.
Slimjr
January 6th, 2012
11:06 am
I would bench the starters tonight! Send a message…
I would have fired Larry Drew this morning…..He’s toast……………
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Slimjr
January 6th, 2012
11:08 am
I have access to free tickets if I want..I’d burn em first…..Garbage organization…..
I’d rather watch myself play…lol
Wabe
January 6th, 2012
11:10 am
• Horford: “That’s a miscommunication there. That went on all game. Guys were not on the same page and we weren’t switching. We were having some problems with the coverages. Jeff [Teague], you can’t fault him, he expects it to be done the right way every time.”
Slimjr
January 6th, 2012
11:12 am
Larry Drew= Round peg, Square hole
Where Grandad and the expert Ken S. to chime in on this fiasco last night?
BoJo Ellis
January 6th, 2012
11:12 am
Man he was right..Hawks make you sick! He would have said more but Camera man told him he was live..thats when he said they were nice guys..covering his asssss.
northcyde
January 6th, 2012
11:12 am
O’Brien . . yes I would.
This team is a year or two from being blown up anyway if we don’t improve. If the fans lose complete faith in these guys, then I’d even move Smith and Horford for a one year rental of Dwight
I would give Orlando the pick of ANY TWO of our star players foe Dwight.
What if Ivan can play at the level he did last night on a consistent basis? Here is our starting lineup. .
Teague – Johnson – Marvin ( or McGrady ) – Ivan – Howard.
If Ivan is the real deal, I would roll with that lineup. And Smith and Horford wouldn’t be missed either.
Nobody on this team is off limits. Nobody. Even the coach and GM shouldn’t be off limits. But you trade for a superstar. Not for another role player.
Wabe
January 6th, 2012
11:13 am
So you see, before we start bashing a player here or a player there for not doing their job, we’ve gotta understand that we don’t even know what their assignments were. We have no clue whether they were supposed to switch on those screens that folks are alleging a certain player didn’t work through hard enough to get through.
In general, the defense last night played was a total team failure. All five of these guys are responsible.
That failure doesn’t stem from x’s and o’s, it stems from focus and effort.
This team seriously lacks in focus and effort. That’s where it’s always been. I can take hard fought losses, but the ish we keep seeing out of this group where they just decide to take quarters, halves, and games off – - that’s the type of ish that needs to get taken care of ASAP. You can’t sell me on the idea that this organization is commited to winning a championship as the ASG has reassured us they have (b.s.) and then settle for this type of lack of effort on a consistent basis.
Slimjr
January 6th, 2012
11:14 am
IVAN MUST START ahead of Marvin!
O'Brien
January 6th, 2012
11:14 am
AJ,
I agree that you don’t have to blow the team up to make improvements. The first thing I would do is bring in an established veteran coach to see what he can do with this core in his first year. If it doesn’t work in his first year, then I would trade at least one of the core to shake the team up, and then go from there.
And next offseason is a good place to start. LD and Rick’s contract will both expire, so the Hawks can let them go if they want. Also, Hinrich will be off the books, so there will be some savings there, and Josh will be going into his last year.
BoJo Ellis
January 6th, 2012
11:15 am
They can’t afford a Star….they paid to much for so called stars.
Slimjr
January 6th, 2012
11:16 am
Marivn,Al and Joe if u want him for D12 asap!!
Josh for Derrick Williams…
Drewcat
January 6th, 2012
11:17 am
The Hawks are a repetitively uncompetitive team year in and year out. They play well sometimes (when they have enough energy to care).
I am so sick of watching this team! Their apathetic attitude is wearing on my own deameanor. WHat baffles me is that I go onto espn.com this morning, and there aint a single word of a personnell change with this stinkin a$$ team!
For god’s sake blow this disaster up! Give up Joe,, Smoove, Al I dont care anymore. This entire era of basketball in Atlanta needs to be purged!
This assessment aint a kneejerk reaction to a TERRIBLE home loss, its coming from a patient fan who has always tried to see the bright side with this roster, coaching staff, and ownership.
Let’s goback to 03-04 where at least we knew we sucked and weren’t delusional about being “one step away” from being contenders. Chuck mentioned last night that Weight Watchers was a scam…
Well this HAwks team we’re sending out every night is a scam. The HAwks bring in new guys and suck them dry of all their talent (T-Mac, Crawford, hell even Bibby) then find it funny as they finish a season mediocre, as usual.
Worse than anyone I feel sorry for Michael Cunningham. Poor guy is already a half-a$$, clueless journalist, but to think that we actually reads his blogs isdownright offputting. MC you need to find a trade or something man. Your covergae of the Hawks is incomplete, misleading, and waaaay off.
Mr Mojo
January 6th, 2012
11:17 am
I must say last night was as disappointing as it gets. they hit it on the head the Hawks don’t have any mental toughness and have no killer instinct. It is so frustrating but like I’ve said before you can blame the players all you want but all of this is on ownership. They got a coach who is a deer in headlights. He has no idea what he is doing he can’t even draw up a play coming out of a timeout. It is so obvious this team needs a veteran coach. They have no offensive gameplan it’s been the same thing over and over. Now don’t get me wrong players should get some blame. A game like last night your 120M man is not supposed to let his team lose a game like that but he shouldn’t be a 120M man he’s not that type of player. He’s a very good player but not a top player and never will be. Horford is regressing on a nightly basis. Josh keeps taking bad shots, Although he is the scapegoat from fans which he is not the biggest problem on this team and least he is not scared of the moment. Marvin is awful. Now teague with the free throws is becoming a problem late in games which I bet will have him on the bench when Hinrich comes back in crunch time. It is very telling when you want a 32 year old McGrady with bad knees and Ivan Johnson on the floor at crunch time.
Besides that, Barkley ripping Hawks is almost comical this coming from a guy who has never won anything. But you know what when the Hawks continue to give effort like last night they deserve to be ripped and embarrased on national TV.
O'Brien
January 6th, 2012
11:17 am
KevinM,
I don’t know if you saw the FT stats I posted on the previous blog, but they are turrible. So far this season;
Game 1: 18-21, 86%; Game 2: 17-22, 77%
Game 3: 27-38, 71%; Game 4: 10-16, 63%
Game 5: 13-20, 65%; Game 6: 14-25, 56%
Game 7: 31-46, 67%.
KevinM
January 6th, 2012
11:19 am
I will probably here from hometeam today on how we had 2 guys with double-doubles, Teague with 7 dimes, and how our bench outplayed their bench.
Just another day in the land of Hawk talk….LD sees the problems, and he has to fix them and fast. But his job is not in jeopardy IMO.
An average team with an average effort……..prove me wrong.
Wabe
January 6th, 2012
11:19 am
pretty much co-sign on drewcat’s take of the hawks…
Mr Mojo
January 6th, 2012
11:19 am
Dwight won’t come here and any chance he would Josh has to be here. He wouldn’t even consider staying without his Buddy Josh here. So if all of you want Josh gone then stop dreaming of Dwight because there is no chance.
Slimjr
January 6th, 2012
11:22 am
More Barkley covering Hawks games! That Chit was funny last night…………………….
The Hawks were so sorry the ish was comical with Reggie and Sir Charles dropping their commentary!
CT3211
January 6th, 2012
11:22 am
The sorry effort last night is the reason you have 5-7,000 empty seats at every Hawks game.
My goodness, they could not win at home with the Heat’s two best players on the sideline.
The win in Miami will be the Hawks highlight game of the year. Folks may not like Barkley,
but as a player he busted his a– every time he was on the court, and you cannnot say that
for most of the Hawks. Looking at 33-33 regular season record.
darrell starks
January 6th, 2012
11:22 am
HAWKS HAVE NO TOUGHNESS.
IVAN JOHNSON IS ONLY PERSON WITH SOME TOUGHNESS.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!
KevinM
January 6th, 2012
11:24 am
Hey, we’re the 6th seed heading into tonight…..so we have work to do to reach Sund’s goal of being a top 4 team this year.
OB, I didn’t see that, but that has cost us big time the last 2 games. And teams won’t be worried about fouling us with those results. We simply don’t respond to the national spotlight well at all.
MC, was Gearon and the 7 dwarfs at the game last night? Did they stay away with LeBron and DWade not being showcased?
Slimjr
January 6th, 2012
11:24 am
They played better with Catwoman and Josh on the bench? Bring em back and we lose……
darrell starks
January 6th, 2012
11:25 am
JOE, HORFORD FOR DWIGHT, REDICK
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!
SteveW
January 6th, 2012
11:25 am
Disappointed? Yea, you bet. Disappointed at most of the guys last nite.
The one I’ve been most disappointed at the last 2 games is Joe Johnson. When your the alpha dog, you gotta be “The Man”, and he’s not. Not even close. Good defender, great dribbler, used to be a very good shooter, now just an athlete. But not clutch at all. Not in the 1st quarter, not in the 4th quarter, not in OT. He’s just not. A solid piece and nothing more.
Slimjr
January 6th, 2012
11:27 am
Joe’s J is broke because he is tired..
Josh’s J is broke permanently……sad….
STRETCH
January 6th, 2012
11:27 am
Grandmaster JeJe,
That….Was… On….Point!
Astro Joe
January 6th, 2012
11:27 am
If Dwight were more interested in playing with friends than with playing with guys who complement his talents and therefore offered a better chance of competing for a title, well… never mind.
julius
January 6th, 2012
11:29 am
The hawks suck it begins with the head coach, Ivan Johnson was playing his ass off and u don’t keep him on the floor really? then u play sorry ass marvin, come on coach u suck? these hawks already reach the top of their game. I don’t think they will make the playoffs. Teage come on man ur the shotcaller can u make free trows? Josh no more bricks please ur not a shooter. Joe ur worst u got paid 120 million show it or return the money and retire. Al go hard in the paint don’t play soft. And Ivan Johnson u played ur heart out last night keep it up
KevinM
January 6th, 2012
11:29 am
“Slimjr
January 6th, 2012
11:22 am
More Barkley covering Hawks games! That Chit was funny last night……………………”
I got a feeling Barkley would quit on the air if he got another Hawks assignment this year……he isn’t wasting his time watching this team.
Like so many here, we have seen this act.
And when Al says the communication isn’t there, well, who in the hail is not communicating? You’ve only been together for nearly a decade! You should know what each other is thinking ahead of time at this point.
A team that can’t find its way down a one-way street……
SteveW
January 6th, 2012
11:30 am
Al is obviously spending to much time with Mrs. Universe, if you know what I mean.
darrell starks
January 6th, 2012
11:33 am
STARTER TEAGUE, REDICK, MARVIN, JOSH, DWIGHT
BENCH PARGO, GREEN, TMAC, IVAN THE BEAST, ZAZA
RESERVE STACK, VLAD. COLLINS
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Slimjr
January 6th, 2012
11:35 am
@Steve, yea Al and his girl are going to dress up like twins for Halloween..
The worst AllStar I have seen…
Help defense= zero!
Slimjr
January 6th, 2012
11:36 am
@GrandMaster JeJe,
That dissertation was a F’king MASTER PIECE SIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SteveW
January 6th, 2012
11:40 am
The Hawks best basketball player and Alpha Dog? Tracy McGrady, and it’s not even close really. Too bad he can only go 20-25 minutes a nite.
If Ivan Johnson head is right, he’s an NBA talent right there. I’m talkin’ about a mid-level PF in a League full of PF’s.
I like Josh Smith alot, but somebody was talking about a Smith for Millsap/Hayward trade with the Jazz. I’m about ready to see if Sund would do that, if the Jazz would.
LD should fine Josh $100,000.00 for every J he takes beyond 15 feet with more than 5 seconds on the clock. There is no such thing as a rhythm J with Josh.
But there’s something in the water in Hawksland – Vlad’s J is broke also, and that’s about the only reason we got him.
Teague’s J wasn’t too hot either last nite – let’s hope it’s not contagious.
And too think we played all these guys 45, 48 minutes last nite. I would start Pargo, Willie, TMac, Ivan, and ZaZa tonite, and bring Collins and Vlad off the bench just to rest the starters some.
Drewcat
January 6th, 2012
11:44 am
Here’s what we need to do:
Let’s amnesty Joe Johnson after this season (so what if we pay him for the last 4 years of the deal). And if he goes on to help a contender..so be it. No need for his contract and slightly above-average talent to handicap this city and team payroll any longer.
Trade Smoove he only has two years left on deal. Get a 1st round pick and ANY solid contributor from another ball club. Don’t care what position.
Let Hinrich walk at season’s end or pull off a midseason trade for a late 1st rounder, or even a 2nd rounder.
This is sort of like the blueprint Hawks used when they conceded the season and Abdur-Rahim, Ratliff, and later Rasheed Wallace were all given away.
No one cares about this team being competitive anymore becasue the players have proven on several occasions that this is not an interest of theirs. At least let’s get the public perception of the Hawks going in the right directions by making some gutsy moves. FIRE LD. I know his contract is up at the end of season, but firing him now would speak volumes about the organization’s urgency and commitment to redressing this broken team.
drmaryb.[*_*].
January 6th, 2012
11:46 am
Black Eyes!
In light of what Reggie Miller and Charles Barkley surmised, in their “black eye” punch fest: I ask this question -
What do you tell a Hawks team with two black eyes?
Answer: Nothing – I already told them twice.
SteveW
January 6th, 2012
11:50 am
As a former let me assure you that Josh Smith has the highest basketball IQ on the Hawks to my knowledge. TMac is probably a close 2nd – not sure about Stack cuz he never plays.
But Josh just doesn’t know how to apply his BB knowledge to himself – with J’s and mental lapses. But he has a great BB mind. He just doesn’t always do what he should on the court.
SteveW
January 6th, 2012
11:51 am
Ha! That last post should read “As a former Coach…”
SteveW
January 6th, 2012
11:54 am
Let me repeat, unless a miracle happens, or we get different ownership, or Levenson, Gearon, Turner Jr get awesome windfalls on investments, we are not amnestying JJ or Marvin. They are not going to pay someone not to play. End of story.
MattP
January 6th, 2012
11:55 am
“This team is a year or two from being blown up anyway if we don’t improve. If the fans lose complete faith in these guys, then I’d even move Smith and Horford for a one year rental of Dwight
I would give Orlando the pick of ANY TWO of our star players foe Dwight.
What if Ivan can play at the level he did last night on a consistent basis? Here is our starting lineup. .
Teague – Johnson – Marvin ( or McGrady ) – Ivan – Howard.
If Ivan is the real deal, I would roll with that lineup. And Smith and Horford wouldn’t be missed either.
Nobody on this team is off limits. Nobody. Even the coach and GM shouldn’t be off limits. But you trade for a superstar. Not for another role player” – northcyde
I baiscally said this very lineup in the other thread but I said to amnesty Joe and get someone like Jason Terry, he will really help with range. No one said anything about my idea of bringing in Terry but get bashed for putting Willliams in the starting lineup. I would put McGrady but I feel he is better fit to run and leader the second unit.
darrell starks
January 6th, 2012
11:58 am
I would trade Josh for Demarcus Cousin right now.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!
KevinM
January 6th, 2012
11:59 am
Awesome! NBA TV is replaying Heat game at noon…..I get to hear/see what I missed last night.
SteveW
January 6th, 2012
12:00 pm
Al Horford: “This by far has to be my worst defeat here as a Hawk. I didn’t feel like we wanted to win this game.”
I wondered if it was worse than when Chicago went up by like 49 last season before LD brought Teague in to make it like a 33 point loss at the end.
Or when the Hornets beat us by 40 at Phillips, and we set some kind of low scoring record.
This loss did stink. Talk about playing unfocused.
MattP
January 6th, 2012
12:00 pm
KevinM,
Trust me, you do not want to see it. lol
darrell starks
January 6th, 2012
12:01 pm
JOSH, ZAZA, FOR COUSIN, JOHN SALMONS
GO HAWKS!!!!!
Trojan
January 6th, 2012
12:02 pm
Trade for Dwight. Make him stay a year. If he leaves, well at least we tried and we will have salary cap room to get someone else. This team will be blown up soon anyway. We have nothing to lose.
The hawks were disgraceful last night.
LD, play Ivan more.