Atlanta Hawks: Heat 116, Hawks 109 (3 OT)
Al Horford summed it up: “This by far has to be my worst defeat here as a Hawk. I didn’t feel like we wanted to win this game.” Possible exceptions include Ivan Johnson, Willie Green and Tracy McGrady.
- This was the kind of loss that people who can’t embrace the Hawks predict as soon as they hear LeBron James and Dwyane Wade are out. And then it happened. “I wish they would have played, to be perfectly honest,” Larry Drew said. “I think if they would have played we would have taken a whole different approach.”
- To get a sense of the Hawks’ disarray in this loss, listen to the various explanations for the poor pick-and-roll coverages that plagued them all game.
- Drew on Chris Bosh’s game-tying 3 at the end of regulation: “Mental, mental breakdown. Just total mental breakdowns from key players. We knew they were going for the quick basket. We were going to switch a lot of the things. When you make a switch, you come together. We didn’t do that. We tried to cheat the play and they stepped right in between us. It should not have been switched because we didn’t come together.”
- Horford: “That’s a miscommunication there. That went on all game. Guys were not on the same page and we weren’t switching. We were having some problems with the coverages. Jeff [Teague], you can’t fault him, he expects it to be done the right way every time.”
- Josh Smith: “I don’t know how much louder I can scream for whoever it is that a man is coming up and setting a screen. . . . We were giving up too many straight-line drives to the basket and dribble-drive layups. It’s disappointing to see that when somebody makes a play, as teammates we have to come up and help them. ”
- Drew said he didn’t want to foul on Miami’s last possession of regulation: “I trust my defense in that situation. We did everything right except we had a breakdown on our switch. We didn’t switch it. It just took a moment for Bosh to step back and get open. I thought we did everything perfect up that point.”
- The Hawks missed 12 free throws after halftime. “You’ve got to step up and make them,” Joe Johnson said. “I’m one of the biggest culprits.”
- Johnson also missed 6 of 7 3-point tries. He missed all three of his shots in the third overtime, when the Hawks became just the 10th team in league history to fail to score in an overtime period.
- The talk about Johnson’s renewed energy for this season looks flimsy now. For the second game in a row the Hawks needed their alpha dog to make one or two plays to win and he couldn’t do it.
- Teague struggled, too. He had five steals and seven assists against two turnovers but missed 11 of 12 shots and four of eight free throws. He didn’t fight hard through screens at times though, after talking to Drew and the Hawks, I’m still not sure how much of that is his fault–because they didn’t sound sure, either.
- Teague is still learning on the job but he didn’t look as confident tonight. “We missed shots and it carried over to our defense, starting with me,” Teague said.
- McGrady (14 points on eight shots, five assists, seven rebounds) didn’t play after the first overtime. Drew said it was a strategic decision and then McGrady wasn’t able to return: “While he was on the bench he stiffened up and he couldn’t get back in there.”
- McGrady: “I sat down for too long.”
- Smith was spent for the third overtime. He slumped on the scorer’s table before the jump ball. Horford pumped his fist and yelled: “Smoove! Come on, man!”
- Josh: “I understand that they are looking to me to generate most of the energy but at the same time we are all professionals. Everybody has to be able to go out there and play no matter who steps out there on the floor.”
- Horford got Bosh in Miami; Bosh returned the favor tonight. “He’s tough, man,” Horford said. “He knows how to play. He buys into his role with his team and steps back, but we know he’s capable of doing that any time.”
- Vladimir Radmanovic makes contributions but he can’t make a shot. This is a problem since that’s why the Hawks signed him.
- The good vibes generated by the Hawks after the W in Miami are gone now. And they still have to play two more games in two days.
- “The frustrating part is it’s little things we can control,” Horford said. “It’s free throws, it’s little things on defense that we do sometimes and other times we don’t. Tonight we probably let our guards down with those two guys being out. That’s somewhat of a factor, but that’s still no excuse.”
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154 comments Add your comment
Najeh Davenpoop
January 6th, 2012
1:39 am
The core sucks. Give Teague a chance. Iso-Teague. Any two of the medium-sized three for Dwight. Fire Everybody.
Spyro
January 6th, 2012
1:40 am
How frustrating!!!
Najeh Davenpoop
January 6th, 2012
1:42 am
The Najeh Davenpoop Sportsbook line for tomorrow’s game is Charlotte -15.
Hmmmm
January 6th, 2012
1:43 am
“….“I wish they would have played, to be perfectly honest,” Larry Drew said. “I think if they would have played we would have taken a whole different approach.” …”
SO APPARENTLY HE CAN’T GET HIS OWN TEAM MOTIVATED TO PLAY HARD, THEREFORE HE NEEDS THEM TO BE STARSTRUCK BY THE OPPONENT.
I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS MAN’S HALL OF FAME INDUCTION.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 6th, 2012
1:43 am
MC, no comments from/about Ivan? Any indication that LD isn’t just BSing when talking about “finding a way to get him minutes”?
Adam
January 6th, 2012
1:45 am
Joe Johnson is the single greatest player in the history of western civilization, and it isn’t even debatable.
If the Hawks don’t go 63-3, and win the NBA Championship, I’ll be shocked.
Booya.
Hmmmm
January 6th, 2012
1:47 am
“…Teague is still learning on the job but he didn’t look as confident tonight. “We missed shots and it carried over to our defense, starting with me,” Teague said. …”
THE YOUNGEST PLAYER IS THE ONLY ONE TAKING RESPONSIBILITY AND FALLING ON THE SWORD. YOU HAVE A BRIGHT FUTURE TEAGUE. IT MAY NOT BE HERE, THOUGH.
FreshFromATL
January 6th, 2012
1:47 am
To be honest, it does not matter who the Hawks trade or bring in as a free agent, until this organization hire a competent coach that DEMANDS more from his players, this type of thing will continue to happen. No player in the league is going to change this team’s fragile mentality, NONE. Larry Drew may have just coached his way out of Atlanta with this one.
And check out the off camera truth from the announcers tonight:
ch?feature=player_embedded&v=XOAPL5Td7uo
JIM
January 6th, 2012
1:48 am
u just knew it right? when the free throws started clanking off the rim that it was over. we have lost 2 straight because of that…
isn’t a free throw something you practice every day?
FreshFromATL
January 6th, 2012
1:48 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XOAPL5Td7uo#
JaeEvolution
January 6th, 2012
1:49 am
We all know how Ivan’s minute will end up, he will start out getting about 15 then slowly, slowly but surely he will fade back to the benchwarmer role even after contributing more than anyone else there and making play after play, just like Teague was stuck there for 2 years.
Hawks Fan Down Under
January 6th, 2012
1:50 am
Heartless, gutless and mindless.
That’s how they played tonight.
Do even the owners think this team can win a title?!?!?!?!?
Neki
January 6th, 2012
1:50 am
This core has to go!!! No question asks. I don’t think you can lose like this to a team that didn’t have both of their superstars in the game. Missed FT, Lack of Mental Toughness, and the fact that Horford, Smith, Johnson and others was outplayed by a player until this year, he was playing in Korea. ASG needs to make a change right now, regards if they beat Charlotte by 100, The core needs to be shaken up or destroy. They need to tell the Magic, they can have any two players for Dwight.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 6th, 2012
1:51 am
Oh sh-t, Jon Leuer dunk on the TNT highlights. I know someone who’s going to need to change their pants…
Reggie
January 6th, 2012
1:52 am
Time to make a move,Josh Smith:headcase who like to shoot jumpers, DeMarcus Cousins:headcase who shoots from paint….i’ll take the headcase in the paint for 200 Alex.
Hmmmm
January 6th, 2012
1:52 am
THESE PLAYER QUOTES SHOULD HAVE DWIGHT BANGING ON OTIS SMITH’S DOOR TO DEMAND A TRADE TO THE HAWKS, AMIRIGHT? LOL
Dewayne
January 6th, 2012
1:55 am
Two words for the Hawks. Soft and weak. That is all!!!
Big Lou
January 6th, 2012
1:55 am
Freaking play Ivan Johnson; he has grit, heart, and physicality — way more than our overpaid, lackluster, no-heart starters(except Teague). How can you not realize that this guy is hungry? I’m so sick in tired of the crappy management in ATL. You can spend 120 million on a loser, but you can’t spend money on a decent coach? So much fail in this organization.
The Falcons may have their flaws, but at least they spend money on decent management and have players that play with heart. Fire LD? Fire the Hawks owners, and the coaching staff!
doc
January 6th, 2012
1:56 am
Drew said he didn’t want to foul on Miami’s last possession of regulation: “I trust my defense in that situation. We did everything right except we had a breakdown on our switch. We didn’t switch it. It just took a moment for Bosh to step back and get open. I thought we did everything perfect up that point.”
just plain stupid with no logic and he should be fired immediately.
Slimjr
January 6th, 2012
1:56 am
“Al Horford summed it up: “This by far has to be my worst defeat here as a Hawk. I didn’t feel like we wanted to win this game.”
All Dirk Jr scored 10 pts in 40 minutes and fouled out with 4 turnovers..
This stiff has got to be one of the worst AllStars ever…..
Slimjr
January 6th, 2012
1:57 am
Drew just quit man….
doc
January 6th, 2012
1:58 am
fresh you want to try it again or sum up what they said?
Hmmmm
January 6th, 2012
1:58 am
THE HAWKS AREN’T YOUNG ANYMORE. IT’S PAST TIME TO TAKE OFF THE TRAINING WHEELS AND GET A COACH WHO WILL TREAT THEM LIKE MEN AND HURT THEIR FEELINGS. BUT SINCE OWNERSHIP IS CHEAP AND UNCERTAIN, VAN GUNDY AND SLOAN MIGHT LAUGH IF THEY GET A PHONE CALL.
DREW LOVES TO TALK TOUGH AFTER THE GAME BUT IS SCARED TO BENCH THEM WHEN THE SUCK AND GET LAZY ON THE FLOOR.
Slimjr
January 6th, 2012
2:00 am
All NBA = Catwomen! He and his new bride could dress up as twins for Halloween…
JJ is not Robin, Sorry Robin…
doc
January 6th, 2012
2:00 am
one guy maybe two played to win if you combine green and tmac. ivan for sure, tmac almost a whole but he missed too many free throws himself.
ld would be gone if there was a basketball mind in the house but gearon and sund dont count.
Hmmmm
January 6th, 2012
2:03 am
POPPVICH WOULD HAVE PUT SOMEONE IN A CHOKEHOLD AFTER BOSH HIT THAT 3 LOL.
EmirS.
January 6th, 2012
2:03 am
What’s with Horford and Josh? Neither one of them have done anything impressive thus far in the season. Have they declined or is the love just being spread around more?
And remember on the previous blog, I stated the “gut feeling” that we will lose. Well there you have it. And I also agree that I do kind of wish LeBron and Wade played. We could have maybe won. or atleast a 3 OT loss vs a Miami team WITH Wade and LeBron would have been easier to digest then losing to a Bosh led team.
Oh well. Bring the on the Bobcats.
P.S. We blow out the Bobcats tomorrow.
Big Lou
January 6th, 2012
2:03 am
Free throws have cost us two games this year. All I can say is Wow.
Joe for 3
January 6th, 2012
2:07 am
Horford and Ivan Johnson look like the only ones that carry some enthusiasm.
Marvin looked really aggressive early against Chicago. Tonight, not so much. Be aggressive, Marvin!
Joe Johnson, the non-leader, with a leaders contract, fails again miserably. JJ actually does pretty well when he posts up, along with the driving floaters. The 20 second dribbling iso-joe sets don’t work, though.
J-Smoove attacked the basket late and all Hawks fans yelled with glee. Keep that up. Take a wide open jumper here and there, but don’t let that be your game. A few days ago, AJC reported that LD told smoove to stop taking those long jumpers after he went on a dry spell from 22 feet. Apparently he forgets those instructions at the start of every game.
Teague, take a few of those wide open 3’s you get… you are better off shooting them than Smoove.
GO HAWKS!
Hmmmm
January 6th, 2012
2:08 am
JOE DOESN’T BEAT ANYONE OFF THE DRIBBLE ANYMORE, AND RARELY DID IN HIS PRIME, YET THIS CLOWN COACH DRAWS UP ISOLATION PLAYS FOR HIM WITH THE GAME ON THE LINE TUESDAY AND TONIGHT. WHAT A BUFFOON LOL.
Alpha, Bravo, Whiskey
January 6th, 2012
2:08 am
Oh where, oh where, has our alpha dog gone?
Neki
January 6th, 2012
2:09 am
Right now, i don’t really care about the Bobcats but this team needs help in the worst ways.
EmirS.
January 6th, 2012
2:10 am
One more I thing,
Nate McMillan knows how to use Jamal Crawford. Or atleast it seems as though he knows.
Whopper Dawg
January 6th, 2012
2:11 am
7 games into the season and it is definitive that this team will not contend for the eastern crown much less the NBA.
Hmmmm
January 6th, 2012
2:11 am
WOAH SLOW DOWN ON GUARANTEEING WINS AGAINST THE BOBCATS. YOU SEE THEY JUST EMBARRASSED ESPN’S FAVORITE TEAM THE KNICKS IN THEIR OWN BUILDING. IT WAS SO BAD KNICKS FANS WERE CHANTING “WE WANT SHUMPERT” LMFAO.
CHARLOTTE MIGHT RUN THE HAWKS OUT OF THE GYM AND NONE OF US WOULD BE SURPRISED, THEN LARRY WILL SAY “WE HAD NO ANSWER FOR GERALD HENDERSON” SMH SAY WUT LOL
Prison Mike
January 6th, 2012
2:12 am
Smith was spent for the third overtime. He slumped on the scorer’s table before the jump ball. Horford pumped his fist and yelled: “Smoove! Come on, man!”
JS gave it his all but his decision making will always be questionable. Horford I thought played femalish on defense. He’s the team best center and has to protect the paint. The lack of a true point guard is hurting the team. Teague can’t be scared of the three point line.
Joe once again misses a game winner. Just because you payed him all that money doesn’t mean he is clutch.
real talk
January 6th, 2012
2:16 am
All I’m saying is this, if players like Kobe, Andre Miller, Chauncey Billups, Rip Hamilton, Marcus camby, Jason Terry, Steve Nash, Al Harrington, Stephen Jackson, Drew Gooden, and Tahshon Prince can get 30 min and be very effective, why can’t Mac get those minutes. More the Half those players are older than Mac. Why he can’t get those min consistently. Any answer?
JaeEvolution
January 6th, 2012
2:17 am
Lol, no one really talking about how Joe Johnson had TWO rebounds in 50 minutes…I rarely bash Joe, but come on dude you’re a softy right now in EVERYONE’s eyes, Ivan Johnson come off the bench and put up the same amount of attempts that Horford have, these guys really don’t understand what position they are in, give them some shock value for once LD start Ivan or something he earned his time.
Mac-Town #maconchevyrider
January 6th, 2012
2:17 am
This aint rocket science here folks. Read the self admitted problems the coach and some of the key players are saying. A unit where the core has been together so long and still having problem such as those MUST be broken up. It’s time to turn the page.
About this core:
It was fun finally making the playoffs after a long drought and challenging Boston to seven games.
It was fun being a top 4, top 5 eastern conf playoff team for a few years (though clearly not even thought of in contending with the top 2 or 3, ever)
but it’s time to move on
Prison Mike
January 6th, 2012
2:18 am
Forgot about Ivan. Barkley obvious jab at Zha Zha and Twin being stiffs aside, Ivan Johnson is better than any back up big we have. He has to play more with Josh and Al.
real talk
January 6th, 2012
2:19 am
Anybody please?
real talk
January 6th, 2012
2:23 am
F*** Ld!
Joe for 3
January 6th, 2012
2:24 am
Zaza, not zsa zsa, not zhazha…
real talk
January 6th, 2012
2:26 am
Can u say” Dwhight around you lips” in my Mike Epps Voice
Hmmmm
January 6th, 2012
2:26 am
I’M STILL BLOWN AWAY THAT BARKLEY SAID IVAN SHOULD START OVER JOSH ON NATIONAL TV. CHUCK WATCHED HIM PLAY FOR 2 MINS AND KNEW HE HAD MORE HEART, DAMN.
MC SHOULD HAVE RELAYED THOSE COMMENTS TO JOSH. NOW THAT’S A RESPONSE I’D LIKE TO READ LOL.
uga-brave
January 6th, 2012
2:31 am
najeh, at what point is the give up point at your smove?
Joe bricks another game winner
January 6th, 2012
2:31 am
Zha Zha is exactly what true fans call him.
uga-brave
January 6th, 2012
2:35 am
HE CANT go right, he cant post up. all he does is dunk. he misses that half the time.
zero post game.
Harry Hawk
January 6th, 2012
2:36 am
Well, at least we have a players’ coach.
Buddy Grizzard
January 6th, 2012
2:36 am
This was one for the ages. It’s beautiful to be a Hawks fan. Pure artwork.
uga-brave
January 6th, 2012
2:38 am
shooting 33% from the field. barely scratching 50% from the line. smoove.
defend him?
Harry Hawk
January 6th, 2012
2:40 am
I love the T-Mac quote:
“I sat down for too long.”
Most of the team looked like their legs had fallen asleep because they’d sat on the can for too long.
Harry Hawk
January 6th, 2012
2:41 am
So MC is a “trader,” eh?
Please trade for Dwight Howard, MC.
Thank you.
Joe for 3
January 6th, 2012
2:42 am
Trader or traitor?
From reading his tweets, he looks to equally lay the blame.
He notes the lethargic play off all players, not running through screens.
He notes that Horford actually had to call Smoove on to the court after the first OT.
He also mentioned Teague not looking confident.
That seems like fair analysis, and far from picking one any certain player.
FreshFromATL
January 6th, 2012
2:44 am
Doc,
I posted the link in my 1:48am post.
tony
January 6th, 2012
2:47 am
I didn’t watch the 2nd half but I’m not surprise that they lost to a Wadeless Miami team. The hawks need to put themselves in position to draft Kendall Marshall-pg and Orlando Johnson-sg. Marshall is as close to J.Stockton and Steve Nash as they come and Orlando Johnson is a fearless competitor who can beat his man from the perimeter or drives to the basket. They will make the hawks better basketball team next season.
cp
January 6th, 2012
2:55 am
Its time to break up the core. Like Reggie Miller pointed out tonight, yea they have been together for years now but what have they won, nothing. At this point break up the core and get a new coach. New talent and a new voice leading them. We have been seeing the same let downs from this group for years now.
Harry Hawk
January 6th, 2012
2:56 am
This is Josh’s eighth year in the league. He may not be old, but he’s been in the league too damn long to expect any kind of positive changes in his game. The changes needed to occur three or four years ago. They didn’t. He is a fully-formed basketball player. Horford and Duck Butt, I mean, Marvin are in the same boat.
Teague can get better, but “Teague can get better” is not exactly the kind of marketing slogan that is going to put butts in seats.
The sad thing is that we Hawks fans waited for years to finally get some productive draft picks. Aside from Marvin (let’s not open that can of worms again), I think we’ve done pretty well with Josh, Horford, and Teague. Unfortunately, none of these guys turned out to be a superstar. We needed to hit on a superstar. Because he was the best scorer on the team, Joe Johnson became our poor man’s superstar just long enough for us to pay him like he was an unholy beast who goes HAM on every team in the league. He’s just a complementary player, though. All we have is complementary players who don’t complement one another very well.
HawkEye
January 6th, 2012
2:59 am
Hawks need to stay away from primetime games. LOL.
Lets hope they don’t have any more games on TNT, ESPN, or ABC (doubt they will see the last network).
doc
January 6th, 2012
3:02 am
yeah fresh, finally got the right one. that was a beauty and strikes right to the heart of the matter. very sad, but those guys know. hated how the heat were huging the sideline in their suits. i so want them to keep losing as they arent a class act. unfortunately, adding battier and having udonis a poor mans artest/rodman with stability and a bb iq is priceless. they look pretty complete.
i can only hope there is someone out there to challenge them. too bad stern played with the rules and wouldnt allow paul to go to la. was it to make the hornets better or lakers weaker for the heat?
Najeh Davenpoop
January 6th, 2012
3:12 am
“najeh, at what point is the give up point at your smove?”
What exactly am I supposed to be giving up on?
Najeh Davenpoop
January 6th, 2012
3:17 am
Josh is no different from Al and Joe. A talented, versatile, complementary player who is never going to carry a team by himself and should ideally be playing a supporting role to a true superstar. I don’t see what is there to “give up on”. I accept that Josh is probably never going to understand how to play to his strengths. I accept that Al is probably never going to be able to create his own shot or play adequate help defense. I accept that Joe is probably never going to learn how to use his size advantage to draw fouls and create space for his shot.
All three are good players. None is going to win the Hawks a championship, which is why the Hawks should call up the Magic and offer any two of them for Dwight. Barring a trade, the Hawks’ only hope for reaching elite status is to watch Teague develop into a better player than Joe, Josh or Al (which isn’t going to happen as long as LD keeps f-cking with his confidence) or if T-Mac finds a time machine and turns back the clock by ten years.
Mac-Town #maconchevyrider
January 6th, 2012
3:17 am
“Damn, The Hawks cant perform in big time Games”
-Falcons
………………………………………………………………………………
“The Hawks choke every time they get under the bright lights”
-Braves
…………………………………………………………………………………
“smh, when is the last time the Hawks won a big game”
-UGA Football
Mac-Town #maconchevyrider
January 6th, 2012
3:19 am
“Josh is no different from Al and Joe. A talented, versatile, complementary player who is never going to carry a team by himself and should ideally be playing a supporting role to a true superstar”
Mac-Town #maconchevyrider likes this.
uga-brave
January 6th, 2012
3:28 am
najeh, he is a coach killer. either you see it or you dont, .
way to much talent. zero ability to go right. no post up game. how long. the guy is immensely talented.
how many years does it take? hustle is a plus. the guy works as hard as anybody.
but as far as fundamentals he will always lack. how hard is it for him to drop a drop step in the post?
Hmmmm
January 6th, 2012
3:32 am
DAMN, MAC-TOWN’S 3:17 POST WAS SIMPLE YET ALL TRUTH LOL.
COULD’VE THREW IN GEORGIA TECH AND THE THROWBACK OPTION IN THERE TOO. ALWAYS GETS EXPOSED WHEN THE OPPOSITION GETS MORE THAN A WEEK TO PREPARE. EVEN THE BASKETBALL TEAM GOT DRILLED BY ALABAMA THE OTHER DAY OUCH LOL.
Mac-Town #maconchevyrider
January 6th, 2012
3:34 am
Hawks front office/management and some fans want our core to be stars when actually all of them are complimentary players. They have ECF and Finals aspirations by adding complimentary bench players with these “stars” when all they are really doing is adding sub-complimentary players to other, better complimentary players (the core).
Time to go after a real star(s?) and build around that foundation.
Hmmmm
January 6th, 2012
3:37 am
SERIOUSLY, IS ANY TEAM IN THIS CITY EVER GOING TO GET SERIOUS ABOUT WINNING A CHAMPIONSHIP? EVERY TEAM IN THIS STATE ACTS FINE WITH BEING DECENT. WTF.
PEOPLE DON’T COME OUT BECAUSE THEY KNOW HOW THIS MOVIE ENDS LOL. WHY PAY TO WATCH ANOTHER BIG GAME LOSS WHEN I CAN PUT THAT MONEY TOWARD SOMETHING ELSE, LIKE THE AQUARIUM LOL.
Hmmmm
January 6th, 2012
3:39 am
PEOPLE WOULD RATHER WATCH FISH SWIM AROUND THAN JOSH SMITH AND CHIPPER JONES LMAO.
THE OWNERS DON’T SEE THAT AS A PROBLEM?
Mac-Town #maconchevyrider
January 6th, 2012
3:40 am
Vote for your State of Georgia collegiate and professional sports motto!
A) “Almost, but not enough”
B) “At least we’re above average”
C) “When in doubt, blame the fans”
Mac-Town #maconchevyrider
January 6th, 2012
3:41 am
lol..chipper? He’s going to roll out in a wheelchair before they force him to retire.
Hmmmm
January 6th, 2012
3:47 am
“Time to go after a real star(s?) and build around that foundation.”
THEY CAN PLAY OUT THE SEASON AND SEE WHERE IT GOES, BUT IF THEY FAIL AND ONE PLAYER IS TRADED, THE REST NEED TO GO AND THEY REALLY JUST NEED TO CLEAN HOUSE AT THAT POINT. THIS HAS NEVER BEEN A LIKABLE TEAM FROM DAY 1.
-JOSH WAS NEVER REALLY A FAN FAVORITE
-THE JOE TRADE WASN’T POPULAR (THEN ADD THE LAWSUIT, THEN THE MAX DEAL)
-MARVIN? PFFT YEAH HE’S UNPOPULAR
-AL? HE USED TO BE POPULAR, BUT MOST ARE TURNING ON HIM ALSO
-BILLY KNIGHT? BACK TO BACK WILLIAMS, NUFF SAID.
-RICK SUND? CHEAP RETREAD WHOM NO ONE BELIEVED IN FROM THE START.
-WOODSON WAS ALWAYS A JOKE.
-AND WHEN PEOPLE THOUGHT THEY WERE READY TO MAKE A REAL COACHING MOVE, THEY SET US UP, TALKING ABOUT BIG NAMES, AND JUST GAVE IT TO DREW LMFAO. MARK BRADLEY WAS RIGHT ABOUT DWANE CASEY, BUT ASG DIDN’T WANT TO PAY UP.
WHAT’S THE POINT OF KEEPING ANY OF THEM AROUND? TINKERING DOES NOTHING.
Hmmmm
January 6th, 2012
3:51 am
MAC-TOWN, NOW YOU KNOW CHIPPER IS UNTOUCHABLE AROUND HERE, SO WE CAN’T DOG HIM TOO MUCH OR ELSE THE SUITS WILL COME KNOCKING ON OUR DOORS LOL.
Hmmmm
January 6th, 2012
3:56 am
I WILL GIVE ARTHUR BLANK CREDIT BECAUSE IF THE FALCONS EMBARRASS HIM ON SUNDAY, I BELIEVE HE’S GOING TO DROP THE HAMMER ON BOTH COORDINATORS AND CUT A FEW BIG NAMES TO SEND A MESSAGE.
BRAVES HAD THE BIGGEST COLLAPSE IN NL HISTORY… WHAT DID THEY DO? REPLACED THE HITTING COACH. AWWWWWWWWWWW LOL. BOBBY COX HUNG AROUND 10 YEARS LONGER THAN HE SHOULD HAVE BECAUSE HE NEVER RAISED HELL.
HawkEye
January 6th, 2012
4:01 am
Horford always seems more disgusted by our bad losses than Joe and Josh. Just thought I should post that. Horford is the closest thing we have to a vocal leader and unfortunately, that is just not going to cut it.
When players on your team don’t get upset by losses like this, it shows a lack of heart. You should be upset you lost to the Bosh-lead Heat team. I want someone, ANYONE (even Harry the Hawk or the waterboy) to get upset and chew these guys out. LD obviously can’t do it. Just sad.
Charles hit the nail on the head. “Too many nice guys”.
Furthermore, not owning up to your own mistakes is a sign of weakness.
I’m just sick of seeing professional basketball players go out there and play half a** basketball, especially in a winnable game.
I’ve been wanting to say this for a LOONG time and I will stand by it. I’m happy we did not draft DWill or CP3. Given this organizations track record, they would have been pasted at the end of the bench and would not have half the NBA career they have today.
Oh well. Game Over. Rant Over. Coach in Over his head. On to the Bobcats. Also, at the risk of repeating the obvious, FIRE LD.
Hmmmm
January 6th, 2012
4:09 am
DERON AND CP3 GREW UP UNDER TWO TOUGH MINDED, NO NONSENSE COACHES IN JERRY SLOAN AND BYRON SCOTT. PUTTING EITHER OF THEM WITH WOODSON WOULD HAVE BEEN TERRIBLE. IT’S KIND OF FUNNY HOW BOTH PGS FORCED THEIR WAY OUT OF THOSE CITIES, THOUGH, YET THIS TEAM IS STILL HOLDING ON TO MARVIN LOL.
GaSouthernSmooth
January 6th, 2012
4:41 am
Way to fall flat on your faces boys on national tv. Someone give them the tape of Sir Charles roasting them tonight. Embarrasing to say the very least. HORFORD PLEASE take this opportunity to light a fire under the starting five’s arses by letting em know how you really feel. I’m just glad I didn’t spend the money to watch this fiasco in person like I had so naively wanted to after tuesday. Ill stick to my wed cheap seats lol but on the bright side when can I get my Ivan Johnson jersey???
Buddy Grizzard
January 6th, 2012
4:49 am
“When players on your team don’t get upset by losses like this, it shows a lack of heart.” – HawkEye
After the collapse at Chicago, Derek Rose was quoted saying how upset he was at how badly they played, how he felt they should apologize to the fans for how bad they played. AND THEY WON THE GAME. Meanwhile in the Hawks locker room everybody making excuses… awe poor us we played a game last night.
hawks fan down under
January 6th, 2012
4:59 am
After the game on TNT….
Miller: “A loss like this was like a black eye to the club.”
Barkley: “I wanna punch them in the other one.”
This is how I feel.
Dont Brick It
January 6th, 2012
5:08 am
Who cares about those 3.. we have just found a gem, Ivan Johnson. Start the guy.
T-Mac & Ivan Johnson, dudes with Basketball IQ & Swag.
Big Daddy
January 6th, 2012
5:16 am
One of the comments I have heard over the last few years is how the Hawks play down to their opponent’s level. This team should have had a double digit win. Instead they looked completely in disarray and undisciplined in the execution of their defensive and offensive set. The assault on Teague’s confidence continues and he is not getting in the flow of the game.
Al said it was his worse defeat as a Hawk. It was probably the worst coached game as well. The coaches have to properly prepare their team for any game. If a player is not executing, that player needs to sit. If you have multiple players not executing the game plan, that falls at the feet of the coaches. Preparation and execution was shown by our opponent tonight, not us.
Big Daddy
January 6th, 2012
5:45 am
@superiorbogman, “This had nothing to do with preparation and execution sometimes you just have to go to work when you don’t feel like it.” I don’t know how you can say that. Their execution, of their plays, particularly in the 3rd overtime is what won them the game. Even when it appeared toward the end of the 2nd that the Hawks might be able to win. The coaches preparation for such a situation and the players ability and willingness to trust the coaches direction was what won them the game. LD said in his after game interview that certain key players did not execute the defensive and offensive plays that were set up. That is what costs us and continues to do so.
I am not saying that it has not gotten to a point where we should look at making a trade but the fact of the matter is that the coaches draw up the game plan and enforce the discipline it takes to run it. When you are consistently making statements about players not following through on the plan, taking ill advised shots and not establishing any type of post presence, that falls on the coaches. It is up to ownership and upper managment (i.e. Sund and ASG) to see to it that we have the right people in the right places. That means the players and especially the coaching staff.
A true test of whether others teams in the league believe you had a progressive, fundamentally sound coach is whether or not they get another head coaching job after they leave your team, for whatever reason (i.e. Byron Scott, Rick Addleman, etc). The last several coaches who have left the Hawks have not gone on to other head coaching postions. I finally see Woody sitting on the bench for the Knicks. That makes a statement on what others in the league thought of your selection for a head coach. Do you actually think that if LD was let go tomorrow that someone would be after him to join their staff? Think Sacremento, who just fired Paul Westphal would love to have LD come and coach their team? Why do you think that might be? How about preparation and execution the players exhibit from the administration of the coaching staff.
PEDRO EL GITANO
January 6th, 2012
6:07 am
Lo unico rescatable del equipo es la calidad de T-Mac,la entrega de Ivan Johnson,el irregular Teague y el pundonor de Josh Smith.Todo lo demas es mierda.
terrell
January 6th, 2012
6:32 am
As long as the ASG thinks that Joe “amnesty clause” Johnson is a superstar, and that L freakin D is an NBA coach nothing will change.
Double Zero Eight
January 6th, 2012
6:35 am
The Hawks are mired in mediocrity. They don’t
stand a chance of reaching the Eastern Conference
finals without a “true” big man. Horford is too
soft and not physical enough.
No one in the starting five was able to step up
during regualtion to prevent the game from going
into overtime. The free throw percentage was
atrocious, esspecially down the stretch.
The game should have never gone into overtime.
They should have fouled with about 5 seconds left
to seal the win. Larry Drew does not deserve to be
the coach based on that decision alone. His basketball
IQ is obviously lacking.
Not being able to beat the Heat without Wade and James
is a true measurement of where the Hawks stand……..
mired in mediocrity as usual.
Double Zero Eight
January 6th, 2012
6:37 am
Spelled “especially” incorrectly in previous post.
terrell
January 6th, 2012
6:38 am
ASG
“Joe, here’s your paycheck for the week. SIKE!!!!!!”
Double Zero Eight
January 6th, 2012
6:40 am
Also spelled “regulation” incorrectly in my 6:35 post.
darrell starks
January 6th, 2012
6:40 am
This was a statement game for the future of the Atlanta Hawks. It’s very clear now that the Hawks must make a trade for center.
No inside game at all, every thing are jumpshots will not get you to promised land.
Trade any one on this team to bring in a center.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!
no go
January 6th, 2012
6:45 am
losing to the heat without their 2 superstars? it will be another long year.
Jose
January 6th, 2012
6:48 am
Charles barkley said it right, “Hawks have no energy, they are relaxed this is just because D Wade and Lebron are not playing”. TNT also displayed the Joe Johnson deteriorating trend from a peak of 25 ppg downwards to the current 16 ppg in 2011-2012. What does that tell you about the management that decided to offer long expensive contract (May be they knew that Hawks were on sale all along). Our bench performs better than the starters, they also display more energy than the starters, sorry for restating the obvious.
dub366
January 6th, 2012
6:50 am
the biggest problem here is JOE JOHNSON 7 Quarter 20 pts
JM
January 6th, 2012
6:57 am
Blow this ish up! Start over.
Damn Hawks!
DB
January 6th, 2012
7:11 am
Why is everybody surprised that we got beat by Miami that didn’t have Wade or LJ. We have been doing this for years. If anyone listened to Charles B he was right on with this team…..No Heart and No Toughness at ALL!!!!!!!! We have role players that could go to a good team and be productive. Let’s face it if they plan on keeping this team it is time to make a move….I have loved all my sports teams in ATL since the 70’s but I would NEVER pay to see this team. Soon the fans will boycott!!!
darrell starks
January 6th, 2012
7:13 am
If your the Hawks do you take a chance on Demarcus Cousins ? yes
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!
Eric
January 6th, 2012
7:16 am
I can’t find it in me to put as much blame on Al as the other starters for this game. Obviously, he could have had a better game, but there’s only so much you can do by yourself without getting the ball. If he hadn’t been in foul trouble, I’d probably say he should have been playing better defense, but he basically was in foul trouble for the entire night. A lot of those fouls were BS calls too, especially the time when he blocked either Chalmers or Cole and they said he got them with his body. You never play as aggressively when you know you have to worry about picking up a foul and leaving the game.
On another note, I can’t blame him much on the offensive end either. He did make some bad passes which resulted in a couple of costly turnovers. He should definitely be called out for that, but other than that, his teammates ignored him almost entirely on the offensive end for basically the whole night. Aside from setting screens and crashing the glass, there wasn’t much Horford could do to help on the offensive end. He never got a play called for him and for whatever reason, he didn’t get the ball in the post. Even Charles Barkley called that out on multiple occasions. He mentioned that he doesn’t understand why the Hawks don’t try to establish Horford in the post, since that would be a better option than what they usually do. If you don’t believe me, check your DVR if you recorded the game. Horford could have been better, but at least he was trying and he couldn’t do much more than he was doing on the offensive end without getting the ball. On the defensive end, yes, he could have been better, but you can only be so aggressive when you are one foul away from leaving the game (either by DQ or coach’s decision), and that is basically the situation that Al was in the entire night.
I really felt like the only reason we were even in the game during the first couple of overtimes and down the stretch was due to Ivan and Al rebounding all of the bricked shots that our ballhogs were throwing up. JJ couldn’t buy a shot and Josh was setting for jumpers too often. He hit one big one late in the fourth, but I wouldn’t ask him to shoot a shot like that in that situation. At least Josh started attempting to attack inside, but still, he continued to shoot some jumpers in crunch time that hurt the team. You could see the team completely collapse once both Ivan and Al fouled out. There was no one to rebound the misses, and it was a bunch of missed jumpshots from that point on.
J
January 6th, 2012
7:30 am
Misuse of bench, when you’ve got people like Stackhouse defensively and down the stretch warming the bench? You need fresher legs 3 OT, can’t rely on the same guys to pull you out of the whole every game. Share the pill better.
darrell starks
January 6th, 2012
7:30 am
Hawks have no inside game or toughness at all, except IVAN JOHNSON.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!
Dawg
January 6th, 2012
7:31 am
Booooooo. Without Jeff Teague hitting on all cylendars, we are bad. Horrible effort. We were embarrashed on national TV.
The announcers for TNT are horrible. They offered nothing except wise cracks.
Wabe
January 6th, 2012
7:32 am
typical hawks man…
just read a yahoo article that the Warriors are aggressively pursuing Dwight Howard…
Wabe
January 6th, 2012
7:33 am
Their wise cracks are actually wise words…
They made sense, and as Barkley said, they’re not piling on a team when they’re speaking the truth.
El Bravo
January 6th, 2012
7:36 am
I really want to hate on Marvin but, to be honest, I’ve seen him flash at the post with great position against shorter guys at least 15 times only to be ignored by the ball handler. He used to have a pretty reliable jump hook with both hands in years 2 and 3 but he never gets the ball there. Against the Bulls he got 6 early points yet he was the first one out. Against the Heat he had 5 early points and again he gets the quick hook. The biggest flaw I saw with his game the last two nights is that he passes too often on open threes, opting to swing the ball.
Sand Pile
January 6th, 2012
7:37 am
This is why I refuse to become a Hawk fan. I try at all cost to ” avoid disappointments”! This is not a team, they are a group of millionaires out for themselves.
Tremaine
January 6th, 2012
7:41 am
Josh Smith is clueless. Please get rid of this guy as soon as possible.
The Human Highlight dude
January 6th, 2012
7:42 am
Cant be losing the last 2 games, thats why the Hawks are NOT an elite team, up 17 & lose in Chicago & then lose to the wounded Heat??? C’mon man, MAN UP !!!!!!!!!!!!
El Bravo
January 6th, 2012
7:42 am
Jeff Teague has been killing us not only with the missed free throws but he was 2 for 8 against the Bulls and 1 for 12 against the Heat. Joe Johnson hasn’t been much better, 3 for 17 against the Bulls and 7 for 20 against the Heat. Also, their defense against Chalmers was embarrassing. If you want to know the reason why we lost those two games there it is.
Section 303
January 6th, 2012
7:51 am
This team is done. I was disgusted watching them play last night.
How many uncontested layups are they planning to give up this season? They refuse to help each other. I watched Josh and Al litterally just stand and allow guys to get layups. It happened so many times last night, that I lost count.
Then, all this team does is argue with each other. At one point I thought Teague and Josh were going to start shoving each other. LD stepped in and got the two to shake hands. LD has to feel like he is running a preschool.
How awful is Joe Johnson? I’m not sure he was even the 10th best player on the floor last night. He offers nothing to this team, but missed shots and turnovers. Glad I’m not the one paying him max money.
Ivan Johnson and T-Mac are the only players we have. Ivan bailed the team out several times, or we don’t even see one OT. Sad…you have this wonder core of 4 guys who produce nothing. A guy who was a D-Leaguer (I’m not knocking him, that’s what he was) comes in and is clearly the best player on the floor.
Season is over, guys. This team is done. Put it in stone. They are done. They’ve quit. They do not play together. I don’t like Josh Smith. Never really have. But, not sure I like anyone on this team, save for T-Mac and Ivan Johnson.
They will lose by 17. I see Najeh set the line at -15 for the Bobcats, I’m going two better. Go to Vegas. Bet the house on the Bobcats.
dBall
January 6th, 2012
7:52 am
Ok Hawks Fans….bottom line: THIS TEAM HAS NO LEADER ON THE FLOOR OR ON THE BENCH!!! NO LEADERSHIP IN THE FRONT OFFICE AS WELL. WHAT DO YOU EXPECT?? WE WILL GET THE SAME RESULTS UNTIL SOME CHANGES ARE MADE WITH THIS TEAM and FRONT OFFICE….bottom line!! MAYBE PLAYOFFS & DONE!! BET ON IT!!!
Section 303
January 6th, 2012
7:54 am
Oh…in an effort to dig for another positive….Willie Green played well, too.
Blow the team up. Please! There is no one on the roster that is untouchable. No one. Just blow it up. I’d rather have a lottery team than these a$$holes.
honest_abe
January 6th, 2012
7:55 am
how much truth did sir charles speak last night? like every single word that came out of his mouth was spot on.
#1 hawks lack toughness
#2 you shouldn’t have to count on the bench to bring you energy
#3 this team reached it’s ceiling 3 years ago against boston
#4 the atl fanbase is clueless. not even a moderate cheer for ivan as he came off the floor
#5 ld is a moron
please somebody, anybody give josh smith a one way ticket out of here! i don’t think i can stomach another hawks game if i have to watch that buffoon, i’m sorry i mean captain try to lead a team. it’s like the blind leading the mentally handicapped. every hawks game is so discombobulated. if that’s what they call basketball i don’t need to watch it. bums. can please someone throw some beer at michael gearon. that would be priceless.
O'Brien
January 6th, 2012
7:57 am
Hawks FT% for each game.
Game 1: 18-21, 86%; Game 2: 17-22, 77%
Game 3: 27-38, 71%; Game 4: 10-16, 63%
Game 5: 13-20, 65%; Game 6: 14-25, 56%
Game 7: 31-46, 67%.
69% from the line for the season. Unacceptable. Is it fair to say that FT shooting is also about mental toughness and focus?
Another unacceptable number. 3-pointers.
Game 1: 12-23, 52%; Game 2: 6-16, 38%
Game 3: 4-15, 27%; Game 4: 4-16, 25%
Game 5: 9-16, 56%; Game 6: 4-15, 27%
Game 7: 6-22, 27%.
36% for the season. But if you take away game 1 and game 5, they are shooting 29% from 3.
Section 303
January 6th, 2012
7:57 am
And…just save the “I defend Josh Smith at all costs” b#llsh#t today. Just save it. Take a day off. Anyone who defends that guy just needs to stop. Josh is nothing but a spoiled brat who has the basketball IQ of a rock. His poor shot selection and lazy play kill this team. And, as a season ticket holder for many years, the “I have to pout at the end of the bench” act has totally run it’s course.
LD should have told J-Smoove to go F himself at the end of the first quarter last night.
jgsbirds
January 6th, 2012
7:57 am
i watched this game from start to finish and other than a post up down low, a few feeble attempts at pick and rolls–i did not see a set play all night. our offense is designed like a rec league team. i can’t remember one time did i say wow look how that play was drawn up. what an awful performance!!!
i can go out right now and make one of two free throws and i haven’t shot a ball in 6 months. bet the house on it!!!!
honest_abe
January 6th, 2012
7:58 am
if ld wants to get control of this team he’ll tell sit josh for an entire game. if anything ld proved to me that he’s scared of josh and his childish tantrums. get rid of josh now and they might be able to salvage this season.
Section 303
January 6th, 2012
8:00 am
honest abe, I love Charles, but if he said that there was no cheer for Ivan, he’s full of sh#t. People cheered for him. I was there. F Charles for towing the line and just blindly ripping ATL fans.
I’ve been in arenas all over the country, both college and pro. Fans, for the most part, no different wherever you go.
Tremaine
January 6th, 2012
8:02 am
JOSH SMITH=CANCER
honest_abe
January 6th, 2012
8:03 am
does anyone else notice how much better the hawks played in the 4th quartter with josh’s sorry ass on the bench?
i mean here’s this guy who lacks any self control trying to be the leader of this team. i was watching the bench throughout the 4th while josh was on the bench waiting for him to blow up and sure enough when bosh finally made one, yes one fg josh starts to wave his hands at ld wondering why he isn’t in the game. josh is an idiot. plain and simple. i stopped being a hawks fan last night and until josh smith is gone i ain’t comin back.
Tremaine
January 6th, 2012
8:03 am
Section 303
January 6th, 2012
8:00 am
honest abe, I love Charles, but if he said that there was no cheer for Ivan, he’s full of sh#t. People cheered for him. I was there. F Charles for towing the line and just blindly ripping ATL fans.
I’ve been in arenas all over the country, both college and pro. Fans, for the most part, no different wherever you go.
He said the guy should of got a standing ovation, which is true. The applause did sound pretty weak on TV.
El Bravo
January 6th, 2012
8:06 am
jgsbirds sums it up. We have no offensive philosophy and that is all coaching…
honest_abe
January 6th, 2012
8:07 am
section 303: really? are you seriously defending atl fans? give me a break. there’s a reason why gearon sold lakers jerseys when la came to town. that crowd last night was dead! if the players didn’t have any energy the crowd had less. the crowd was so stupidly quiet as ivan walked off the court both charles and reggie commented on the lack of support. i believe any other arena would’ve gave him some kind of ovation. atl fans are a joke around the country. come to grips with reality son. yes the truth hurts i guess for you being a season ticket holder it hurts a little more.
Tremaine
January 6th, 2012
8:07 am
This team is like a so-called friend that keeps lying to you over and over again.
TJ
January 6th, 2012
8:07 am
Pathetic when a point guard in the NBA can’t make free throws…there’s no excuse. And Barkley was right on…they don’t have one guy that strikes fear in another team, they’re all just average. Turn Ivan Johnson loose more…at least he’s playing with a pulse.
Marie
January 6th, 2012
8:08 am
I believe Reggie Miller said after the game that this was a black eye to the Hawks franchise. But Charles Barkley summed it up for me when he said “and I would like to punch them in the other eye”. Hawk players please don’t ever say again that you are an elite team — you’re not and you never will be with this rag-tag team. There is no doubt in my mind that the Charlotte Bobcats and the Cleveland Cavaliers would have found a way to win a game in which 2 of the best (if not the best) players in the NBA are sitting on the bench.
The only bright spot from last night was Ivan Johnson — he played on defense and offense like he wanted to win this game. The other Johnson is a heartless, gutless wonder and I am so sick of this bum donning a Hawks uniform. And somehow in every story I have read on the game in the sorry AJC the writers have failed to mention just how good Ivan Johnson was last night. Cunningham did you read about the game via the AP or do you actually go to or watch the game.
Tremaine
January 6th, 2012
8:09 am
honest_abe
January 6th, 2012
8:07 am
section 303: really? are you seriously defending atl fans? give me a break. there’s a reason why gearon sold lakers jerseys when la came to town. that crowd last night was dead! if the players didn’t have any energy the crowd had less. the crowd was so stupidly quiet as ivan walked off the court both charles and reggie commented on the lack of support. i believe any other arena would’ve gave him some kind of ovation. atl fans are a joke around the country. come to grips with reality son. yes the truth hurts i guess for you being a season ticket holder it hurts a little more.
Did you see the game last night? Why should any fan pay to see that bs?
dBall
January 6th, 2012
8:11 am
JOSH SMITH = #JACKITUP
RB
January 6th, 2012
8:11 am
You can tell Larry Drew is a student of the Former coach Woodson. When a player is hot (Green), bury him on the bench. I don’t see Drew as a coach who can take this team to a championship.
honest_abe
January 6th, 2012
8:12 am
“Did you see the game last night? Why should any fan pay to see that bs?”
not me. most people in that building came to see lebron and dwade.
Trojan
January 6th, 2012
8:12 am
Joe Johnson is the worst “top” guy in the whole NBA. He is not worth half his contract. You can tell that Josh has only had Drew and Wooden as coaches. Hortford is limited.
What an embarrashment to the city of Atl.
Who Me?
January 6th, 2012
8:13 am
And now the truth is exposed for a national TV audience. You watch this team work and the lack of communication is stunning for a core that’s been together this long. Time for Sund to earn his pay and start shaking some things up…
Tremaine
January 6th, 2012
8:18 am
not me. most people in that building came to see lebron and dwade.
And I don’t blame them. ASG should be taken to court for fraud.
Tremaine
January 6th, 2012
8:21 am
Welcom to the land of Mediocrity
The dangerous NBA middle ground. Teams that are good enough to make the playoffs but not be contenders; teams that are not bad enough to go up in the draft and get a superstar that way. They get stuck in that middle with no easy way out.
T-Bone
January 6th, 2012
8:22 am
Everyone has comments but no one can play the game. Charles Barkley talked so negatively about the HAWKs that it put a damper on the entire Game. I personally could have done without him last night. Barkley doesn’t have a ring so an expert on championships he is not! The Hawks have what we call “southern hospitality” but know this we not called the “dirty south” for nothing
honest_abe
January 6th, 2012
8:24 am
i’m not sayin this team can win a championship but they can be better.
get a coach with some balls and dump josh smith.
Tremaine
January 6th, 2012
8:24 am
Watching this team the last 2 night I have woken up feeling like I had a hangover. Haven’t taken one drink of alcohol. SAD!!!
honest_abe
January 6th, 2012
8:24 am
tbone – that made no sense but thanks for sharing.
O'Brien
January 6th, 2012
8:25 am
And despite the risk of losing Dwight, if you’re Orlando, why would you want JJ? He averaged 18, 5 and 4 last year, but only shot 30% from 3. And this year, he is averaging 17, 2 and 3.
Not to mention he turns 31 this year, and is still owed 4 years, $89 mil after this year. I think we are stuck with him for at least 2 more years.
Northcyde,
I know JJ is your boy
but dude has got to step it up. 10-37 FG, 3-16 from 3 the last 2 games. We need him to earn his check.
doc
January 6th, 2012
8:25 am
eric bosh killed the boss who spent a lot of time losing him. not sure but while ivan was in there bosh scored nothing. it was because he gave him nothing continually banging on the guy.
honest, while it was no standing o ivan got cheered as he left. the problem was the refs wouldnt allow him to leave until after the first free throw which came a tv timeout and free throw later than the applause and cheers. personally, i was on my feet. there were a lot of heat wade/queen fans as well. at one point when miami was pulling away my daughter remarked how many and loud there were.
yeah for the most part atl fans suck and there were a lot of the cushy blue seats open all night, gearon”s rich guy seats with the exclusive rights area.
TROTTINGHOME
January 6th, 2012
8:27 am
Goodnight Hawks and take this coach with you…already toast and with no butter or jelly that is hard to swallow.
Tremaine
January 6th, 2012
8:27 am
T-Bone your alarm clock is going off. WAKE UP!
Quotes of the Day — January 6, 2012 | JockSpin.com
January 6th, 2012
8:28 am
[...] Al Horford on Chris Bosh’s three-pointer that sent the game to overtime: “That’s a miscommunication there. That went on all game. Guys were not on the same page and we weren’t switching. We were having some problems with the coverages. Jeff, you can’t fault him, he expects it to be done the right way every time.” [...]
honest_abe
January 6th, 2012
8:28 am
doc: sorry you had to sit through that mess. thanks for clarifying. everything just looked off last night. how many more times this year are you going to be able to put yourself through that misery?
O'Brien
January 6th, 2012
8:29 am
Some more Charles Barkley comments;
1) they have too many nice guys on the team
2) they live and die by the jumper
3) they don’t know their roles
4) they lack leadership
5) their offense is terrible
6) why give a 30 year old SG $124 mil, when the team had already peaked, and he is not a superstar
MC,
If you get a chance, check out the TNT broadcast of last night’s game. For the entire game, Charles Barkley was killing the Hawks (players and even LD). Also, maybe you can ask the players if they heard about how Barkley was ripping them during the entire broadcast.
jroll1
January 6th, 2012
8:29 am
Larry Drew totally outcoached AGAIN!!! PLAY IVAN JOHNSON!!!! Hawks missed soooooooo many layups….SORRY TEAM!!!!
Big Z
January 6th, 2012
8:29 am
I am the biggest Hawks and fir that matter Falcons fan around and I am almost at my wits end with both of them. EverY time we get own NAtional tv we seem to Choke. Both teams every single time. Chuck said it right last night this team has no heart or Mental toughness period. And we have to many nice guys. I would trade our entire starting five……. No our entire team besides TMac and Ivan Johnson for DH12. the effort last night was sickening. The only thing that was entertaining about watching that game was Charles Barkley telling us how much WE SUCk. I was mad at first but then it all started to make sense. We have 5 people on our time that is the same player. We have no heart and we are soft. But unknown what, it’s out fault as fans because We tolerate this BS from our teams. The HAwks should have been Booed off the court last night for that performance.
Tremaine
January 6th, 2012
8:30 am
All true O’Brien
BravesFan79
January 6th, 2012
8:31 am
What a dissapointing loss, we showed NO heart! Its almost as if the Hawks know that in the long run, the Bulls and Heat will be the #1 and #2 seeds in the playoffs, so they are playing for seed 3 or 4 already. WTF
To win a title i think we should try and lure Jeff Van Gundy in to coach, and trade Marvin and Horford for Howard. I was feeling alot more confident in this team as constructed when we were up by 19 at Chicago just a few days ago.
honest_abe
January 6th, 2012
8:32 am
obrien: but it’s all on point. never heard that kind of broadcast before but i’m glad i did. gearon and the asg deserve all the negative publicity they can get.
O'Brien
January 6th, 2012
8:32 am
Doc,
You will appreciate this.
During the Arthur Blank interview on 790 a couple days ago, he said that when it comes to the Falcons, it’s not about money. It’s about winning a championship, and that players and fans know that he will do anything in his power to help his team attain that goal.
BravesFan79
January 6th, 2012
8:35 am
PS… Charles Barkley has to be the biggest putz on Television! To say you have to have be a “thug” to be a prime time player is wrong and unresponsible! Perhaps thats why the fat old man NEVER won a ring! Your a looser Barkley, and always will be! How many “thugs” did the Spurs have when they were dominating the NBA?
Big Crimson 75
January 6th, 2012
8:40 am
Bad Coaching or the dumbest team in the NBA……….. you decide
Section 303
January 6th, 2012
8:41 am
I love how the basketball world has fallen to just blindly following whatever Charles Barkley says. Like a bunch of sheep.
honest abe, don’t try and tell me what I heard last night. The people cheered for Ivan. But…whatever…go on letting Charles Barkley think for you..
Tremaine
January 6th, 2012
8:44 am
Section 303 the truth hurt huh?
Michael Cunningham
January 6th, 2012
8:44 am
new blog posted. shutting down this thread.
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