Atlanta Hawks: Hawks 102, Bobcats 96 (OT)

Charlotte–The Hawks needed this W any way they could get it. Playing overtime after leading by 11 in the fourth and using four starters for 40 minutes in the middle game of a back-to-back-to-back wasn’t ideal. But it’s better than losing.

  • “Going into the game I really didn’t know how much energy we would play with,” Larry Drew said. “I was focused on who would run out of gas and when they would run out of gas. But the one thing I wanted to do tonight was ride the energy of the energy guys, and I thought Josh [Smith] brought that. That’s why I played him a lot tonight.”
  • Smith (23 points, 13 rebounds, three steals, two blocks) backed up his pregame talk about taking out his frustrations on the Bobcats. He scored eight consecutive points to help stake the Hawks to the 72-61 lead, then recorded two key assists to help win it in overtime.
  • The first was a pass to Marvin Williams on a cut that made it 100-96. Smith then had a tap pass to Joe Johnson for a jumper that finally sealed it.
  • “It was a big exhale,” Smith said. “No one in this locker room wanted to go to a second overtime. We really didn’t want it to go into overtime but we made enough plays to get it done.”
  • Smith’s help D was strong as usual. Only three of his 18 field-goal attempts were outside of the paint or the circle and he made two of them. Smith really does have the talent to dominate when he’s focused.
  • Williams also had a key play in overtime when he tapped a rebound to Smith after Smith’s missed free throw. That was one of Williams’ four offensive rebounds and helped redeem him for the missed free throw with 17.3 seconds left.
  • “When we went to overtime, I was thinking, ‘Not again,’ Williams said. “I missed a big free throw, man. I was frustrated with myself. But we learned from last night and pulled one out.”
  • Atlanta’s reaction to Charlotte’s zone was to pass around the perimeter and launch jumpers. It worked because much of that passing was crisp and Marvin, Jeff Teague and Joe all made big 3s late in regulation and overtime.
  • “They gave us a lot of different looks with matchups, and then they came back and played some zone,” Drew said. “They kind of got us a little stagnant but we stayed patient with our composure and stayed patient. We moved the ball extremely well. We had 29 assists [on 42 field goals], and that’s huge for us.”
  • Johnson had six assists but yet another bad shooting night (6 for 17). But he was 4 for 8 with two assists in the fourth quarter and overtime. The Hawks needed him to simply make some shots and he did.
  • Teague had trouble finishing at the basket again but did a good job using his penetration to pass while recording nine assists. Another opposing point guard had a big night as Teague still looked strangely passive against screens and in isolation.
  • Al Horford took it to Boris Diaw and Byron Mullens. He had three and-1s against those two on the way to 15 points.
  • After playing until nearly midnight Friday, the Hawks needed a lift from their bench players. Vladimir Radmanovic (finally) obliged and Jannero Pargo and Willie Green also added something.
  • Vlad Rad had 11 points on seven shots and seven rebounds in 22 minutes and was a team-high plus-12 after playing significant time alongside the starters. Pargo had five points in the second quarter to help the Hawks lead at halftime and Green made consecutive baskets while Drew tried to buy more time for his starters in the fourth quarter.
  • The Hawks appeared determined not to let Diaw go off on them like he did to the Knicks the other night. Probably didn’t figure on Mullens getting 17 points, though.
  • Tracy McGrady (knee) said he will play tomorrow.
  • If the Hawks can somehow muster the energy to beat the Bulls tomorrow, they can wash away the stench of the blown lead at Miami and the poor effort against the Heat’s makeshift crew.
  • “I always say at the end of the day we are all professionals,” Smith said. “We can’t make any excuses. We knew going into the season the schedule was going to be hectic. We have one of the most challenging triple-headers in this league.”

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

132 comments Add your comment

FreshmakerGT

January 6th, 2012
11:16 pm

Thank goodness. Man this team is frustrating sometimes.

Ryan

January 6th, 2012
11:20 pm

JT0 needs to dunk it a bit more, harder to miss. Though last night he did miss that big one. lol

justahawkfan

January 6th, 2012
11:20 pm

All teams the Hawks play are trying to win the game also. Maybe that explain why the score end being close. Just a thought.

Big Daddy

January 6th, 2012
11:23 pm

Really glad to go into the game with Chicago with a win and not a loss. Hope the overtime did not take to much out of the guys and I especially hope there is no overtime on Saturday night. GO HAWKS!!!

FreshmakerGT

January 6th, 2012
11:24 pm

I really wanna pull hard for this team, but they make it so difficult. I don’t fault them at all for the game tonight – they were completely gassed. But to lose to Miami without LBJ and Wade is inexcusable, especially when you beat them in their own building WITH both of those guys in there. Free throw shooting is killing this team. We should’ve gone 4 – 1 this week or maybe even 5 – 0. They looked so good in Miami and in Chicago. But now we might go 3 – 2 or 2 – 3 because we can’t shoot FTs worth a lick. Argh. After that game on Thursday I just couldn’t bring myself to watch tonight. Glad we won. Might watch tomorrow.

harryia the hawk

January 6th, 2012
11:24 pm

Jamal is killing the blazers right now. 1-7 from the field and 0-2 from the 3pt land. his turnstyle defense is putid. dude is shooting the ball at 37% so far this season. overrated

Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde

January 6th, 2012
11:30 pm

Uncle Tom

January 6th, 2012
11:35 pm

SteveW

January 6th, 2012
11:36 pm

The Pacers starting frontline shot 9-34, and they still beat the Celtics by 13. Either they’re pretty good or the Celtics are pretty bad.

And Ray Allen is shooting off the charts this season. Yet another All Star game? I figured he was thru after last year. JJ take notice.

Grandmaster JeJe

January 6th, 2012
11:37 pm

AMNESTY GEARON

hawkfan

January 6th, 2012
11:43 pm

well after the game last night, a little (and i mean a little) of the disappointment will be erased if they somehow find a way to win tomorrow, not saying it will happen but they still have a shot to turn things around and play smart, lets hope last night will be the lowest point in this early condensed season

Buddy Grizzard

January 6th, 2012
11:47 pm

W.R. Terrell

January 7th, 2012
12:00 am

Just listening to Josh Smith talk as tho he understands the game of basketball is “sickening”. This is one game that he did what he is suppose to do. Play on the inside and believe me on this, he will be a launching pad again and remain inept in all phases of the game, while promoting his low and I mean very low basketball IQ. If he drifted to the corner once he did it a dozen times. He did give the ball to the point guards so maybe “STU” found “PID”. LD is concerned about Jeffs game, well, between LD and Josh and no wonder he may be on the boundaries of the Twilight zone. Another O.T. so the game with Chicago and a blowout by Chicago should be expected and accepted by the fans. THOSE BUMS NEED TO PLAY LIKE IT’S THEIR FIRST GAME. Give the damn fans a break. None of them have a problem cashing their overpaid asses checks they do not deserve. EARN ONE FOR A CHANGE. Go beyond being greedy, selfish, and cry baby pamper wearing softies.

Ra'mon

January 7th, 2012
12:11 am

With KG playing like this, if Josh keeps this up, he’ll be in the all star game this year.

Josh is the best player on the team, and makes half of what the second best player makes.

Sometimes I wonder if the Hawks should attempt trading Marvin to the Lakers for the trade exception they got in the Odom trade.

tom

January 7th, 2012
12:25 am

I heard hometeam and holman talking on the hawks pregame show about JJ performance so far this season. They were speculating that maybe his shooting thumb had been aggravated again? any truth to this?

kiss the hawks rears

January 7th, 2012
12:27 am

Hey since charles Barkley has blasted Team for lack of leadership and playin like losin to heat team undermanned..Barkley is right the atlanta media n local toilet paper sports writers are scared to ask Josh smith like i See you were lazy again in Phillips arena own by the atlanta sprit group of bad taste.No leaders No coachin at all If we had a coach would cuss out the players n say get u bleeps in gear are i find someone better..Oh wait that would make GM pissed and Fire the coach…Sorry folks i told u be 30-36 now….To the three stooges of land sold a hockey team sale this to Vancouver!

Spyro

January 7th, 2012
12:27 am

Finally, it was refreshing to see Josh do was he does best. Let’s hope he keeps it together.

Ra'mon

January 7th, 2012
12:35 am

For all it worth, Reggie and Barkley have all of those records, but the same amount of rings as us bloggers have! And Barkley talks about leadership, but in Phoenix, he wasn’t the leader! KJ and Singer were the leaders, not Barkley! In fact no one on his team really liked him. And in Houston, they were worse once he joined the team.

Ra'mon

January 7th, 2012
12:37 am

Ainge not Singer. Auto correct bites

O'Brien

January 7th, 2012
12:51 am

Just because barkley never won a ring, or was not a leader, does not mean he doesnt know what good leadership is.

And was there anything he said (about the team) that wasnt true?

As a matter of fact, charles said some of the same things us fans have been saying.

Slimjr

January 7th, 2012
12:53 am

6 seconds left in the game ALL NBA DIRK Jr/Alicia receives the pass on the baseline about 18 feet from the basket and takes a turn-around fade-away off one foot set shot…Can u guess what happen?

He shot and air ball!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Are your freaking kidding me?

O'Brien

January 7th, 2012
12:54 am

As for the bobcats game,i was happy for the win. But not impressed at all.

Hopefully we can beat the bulls tomorrow.

Ra'mon

January 7th, 2012
1:18 am

O’Brien, the Hawks dont play championship level basketball. However, they do win way more than they lose. And if their brand of basketball is beating 22 other teams in terms of better seasons the last four years, then they do still deserve respect. Barkley and Kenny disrespects the Hawks more than they do any other team. I get frustrated with the Hawks, but still realize the Hawks are far from a perennial lottery team.

SteveW

January 7th, 2012
1:29 am

Somebody mentioned Josh and going to the All Star game. There’s still a long way to go before we know about that, even though we’re voting now.

Josh’s competition behind Bosh looks like Garnett, Anderson from Orlando, Boozer, maybe Bass, even Antwan Jamison might get the sympathy vote. You never know how these things will turn out.

But your correct – keep playing like tonite, and more than likely one of the 2 PF spots in the East is Josh’s.

And it looks like it’ll be Ray Allen at SG, and either JJ or DeRozan as the other SG.

And Al has his hands full keeping the C spot down. Hawes, Hibbert, Monroe, Mcgee, Bogut could all beat him out for that spot behind Dwight.

The Truth

January 7th, 2012
1:35 am

In the long run, Avg. Joe struggling (with no Jamal) may be the best thing that could happen to these Hawks. If they want to win, they can’t depend on Joe. Collectively, the onus is now on all the players to step up and make plays; as soon as they realized that, the better.

According to the outcome of the game, the Hawks was not that much better than the lowly Bobcats. But with this brutal schedule, who can really complain? We’ll take the victory and move on.

Still can’t figure out why the Bobcat coach ordered a zone against a “jump shooting team” (go figure). Even Average Joe hit a few.

Hawks Fan Down Under

January 7th, 2012
1:49 am

They still have stretches where they dont seem to run any offence. Just seems to be pass, dribble, pass dribble. And whats with Teague not running pick and rolls/pops? Late in the 4th Al came over to set a screen and Teague just dribbled away from him and dumped to Josh on the perimeter. Does he not know that Al is one of the best mid range shooters in the NBA?

Finally Josh played how he should play, close to the basket…but will he play like that tomorrow? Unlikely.

Najeh Davenpoop

January 7th, 2012
2:01 am

Amare is a forward this year if I’m not mistaken, which means if Bosh and LeBron take the East starting spots at forward, Amare and Melo will probably back them up. If there is a remaining forward spot, Josh probably has to beat out Danny Granger, Andre Iguodala, and Luol Deng for it, which probably won’t happen even if he continues playing well. In particular I can very easily see coaches rewarding Deng with a spot if Chicago is the best team in the East at the break.

Grandad

January 7th, 2012
2:11 am

I’ve been away; burying my kin folk.
Now that all that is over I need to shift back to the unfolding train wreck,
which our Hawks have become.
Some may think I’m callous and austere
for returning to my pastime so quickly
after so sobering an event but it’s my way of dealing with my loss.

Now to the Hawks:
My man Barkley made two statements last eve
that were not only befitting the situation but convictive of our beloved Hawks.
If I am repeating comments from last eve,
please forgive, since I was away there was no chance to keep up with the blog.
Charles’ comments also were reflective of my feelings categorically.
(1) A team is as good as it’s best player
(2) Announcer -“A black eye for for the Hawks”
(3) Barkley – “I’d like to punch them in the other eye”
The greater point here is Barkley’s remark that
“a team will only be as good as it’s best player”.
That statement sums up the Hawks plight in a nutshell.
Their highest paid and presumably best player [Joe Johnson]
is a good player, but, if he [Joe] is the standard
to which the team can expect to ascend,
we cannot win a championship.
Concurrently, with Josh Smith as either the 2nd or 3rd best player
then we are truly in trouble due to the combined capacity for greatness of these two players, although above average, neither is a touchstone for excellence.
It seems to me that there has been some conversation along these lines;
at least concerning Barkley and Miller’s comments.
The fact remains, that there must be change.
Change to the core, change to the culture, and change to our talent.
All must come for the betterment of the Hawks competitive nature.
It is my resolution, that Joe and Josh must be moved.
[sooner, rather than later]

____________________________________________

-editors note-
The above comments were not intended as a lampooning of
either Joe nor Josh.
My statements were made on the presumption that
a. change must come
b. a top tier / lead dog must be acquired
c. the winning culture must be altered

* Joe and or Josh are not the lead dog
* Joe and or Josh can facilitate change

Reggie

January 7th, 2012
2:13 am

You can’t tell me that Keith Benson can’t out produce Za Za….hopefully with T Mac back tomorrow LD won’t forget my main man Ivan Johnson

Grandad

January 7th, 2012
2:24 am

* Joe and or Josh can facilitate change

** by being traded [either or]
*** “or” in Joe’s case:
using the amnesty provision [next year]

real talk

January 7th, 2012
3:19 am

Fun facts……them stats is crazy. How does tmac coming off the bench scores more than Joe. So it is evident that if Mac receive more min and get more shot opportunities that his numbers would crush the hawks highest paid player?

DeionVick

January 7th, 2012
3:28 am

The truth is here… Barkleys comments are exactly correct. The Hawks are awful to watch and will be until JJs contract is gone. His contract has handicapped the team and they cant make any moves… TMac is older and slower but he has more grit and toughness to still try and go to the basket than 124million man… Sorry but LD is not the right coach for this team. Gave up too much in the trade last year for Hinrich shoulda let Teague play more just like Ivan Johnson this year. He is a good coach j hu snot a good evaluator of talent…

Reggie

January 7th, 2012
3:30 am

Fun Facts…get real, more minutes dont mean they will produce at same rate. Ivan Johson had 9 points in hit first 9 mins against the Heat so i guess if he played all 63 mins he would have scored 63 points….step away from the weed sir.

real talk

January 7th, 2012
3:31 am

feel u on that 1

real talk

January 7th, 2012
3:39 am

I don’t believe he’s saying that Reggie, he’s saying that they could be more effective if given the min

Reggie

January 7th, 2012
3:44 am

I know what he’s saying and it’s still wrong…giving ZaZa more mins simply means more time for him to flop around on television. Any bench player who avgs 4 ppg in 10 mins of action stats will look inflated if you figured more playing time.

Reggie

January 7th, 2012
3:47 am

That being said he is right about “The Core”….it’s rotten

real talk

January 7th, 2012
3:53 am

, on the bench, who do you feel should get those min to make the hawks better?

Terrell

January 7th, 2012
4:00 am

All I know is that Ivan Johnson is the real deal. He brings a toughness that the rest of the team doesn’t.

Reggie

January 7th, 2012
4:00 am

To be honest it’s based upon who is playing well that night….only Willie Green and T-Mac have put together good back to back games. Vlad finally found his shot tonight Ivan showed good hustle but didnt score, Pargo is a streaky shooter and Za Za…..moving on.

real talk

January 7th, 2012
4:24 am

U called it just I would

real talk

January 7th, 2012
4:25 am

Hawks Fan Down Under

January 7th, 2012
6:02 am

As much as we want to amnesty/trade JJ’s contract it just isnt happening. There’s no way these tightarse owners will amnesty $80million….simply no way! A new owner might but otherwise we’re stuck with him for at least another 2-3 seasons. He’s owed $25mil in his final year!!!!!!!!!! CRAZY!

Plus no team will want that elephant of a contract on their books unless they give up a contract just as stupid ala Arenas-Lewis trade. Just won’t happen. We’re stuck!

PEDRO EL GITANO

January 7th, 2012
6:25 am

Ganar en la proroga a Bobcats sin su mejor jugador(Magette)no creo que sea motivo para volver a creer.
BJ Mullens hizo su record personal(17).Estamos determinados a hacer jugadores de leyenda a personajes como el,Dexter Pittman o Joel Anthony.Somos nenazas en el juego interior;muestra de ello es Al Horford(7 rebotes en 40 min.)Cuando vuelva Hinrich se le pone de center y coge mas rebotes…Y luego el dominicano intenta dar lecciones de actitud!
Hay casos en que la indolencia o la apatia son elegantes,pero en el caso de Joe Johnson es repugnante.
Mas Horford:ayer en un tiro decisivo no fue capaz de tocar aro,pero al menos tiro´,contra los heat pasaba a Josh a medio metro para no asumir responsabilidad.Seguro que es tan inteligente que si le llamas robocop se sentiria orgulloso.

harryia the hawk

January 7th, 2012
6:42 am

Tmac has been the most productive player so far this season interms of effectivness in the minutes per average. noone has had his type of effect in the game. the offense looks much better when he is out there making the right passes and also producing in the 4th

drmaryb.[*_*].

January 7th, 2012
6:58 am

The View!

” Joe and or Josh are not the lead dog”-GDad-
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“When YOU are not the lead dog – your only view is a lead dog’s azz.” -Ryan Stewart- (2 Live Stews)
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Grand-Daddy! Sorry for your family’s loss of life. Please find comfort in the promise of a resurrection, (the purpose of Christ’s ransom sacrifice). This death is not the end of the story. So, keep your head up. (she winks)
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The Hawks are supposed to win these type of games. What would be more impressive is if they played defense for 48 minutes – hard. It’s not just about winning, winners expect that. It’s HOW you play the game. Your game IS your identity, I would rather be known for being under sized but, the defense is so great – we’re hard to beat. I want teams to get up for us for a change. No one fears the Hawks, unless they play defense. Offense is fickle, but defense is sickening when applied properly.

Look at what we have and we SHOULD be hanging our hat on defense. It’s the only thing the other team can’t stop – effort, heart, fire and desire. So much of this game is played between the ears. Get some smart players in here.

Yeah D12 is immature … But, he will grow up. I’d rather he do that here. Kupchak is not sending Bynum for Dwight, I just don’t see it. Bynum! He good. The Lakers bigger need is at PG, but they are still contenders for a title. They always will be. The ASKG had clearly stated they harbor no such aspirations – whatsoever.

I’ve lowered my bar for this team and, now it just comes down to where I choose to spend my entertainment dollars. What’s maddening is losing winnable games on a national stage and not doing anything to make believers out of non-believers.

I love what Charles Barkley said, he rolled up all my complaints and voiced my opinions. This team needs to be exposed for the Posers they are. The truth hurts and hopefully it will set this core free to go somewhere else and draw paychecks.

Lea

January 7th, 2012
7:27 am

Lol you guys are sad. Do something other than complain for once why don’t ya?

TROTTINGHOME

January 7th, 2012
7:33 am

All I know is that…this win is a mirage…you will only see them when you thrist for vwater

pikkiwoki

January 7th, 2012
7:40 am

That points per 40 minutes stat is a joke, at least when it comes to T-Mac. He couldn’t even play last night after playing only 30 minutes the night before. What makes you think he’d keep the same level of production if given 40 minutes?

And since when has T-Mac had grit and toughness? Never heard that one before, good one.

But the offense does run smoother when he’s out there. He’s a smart player, maybe the smartest on the team (Horford seems like he has a high bbiq)

not happy

January 7th, 2012
7:40 am

Woopdeedo, the beat the worst team in the nba in OT. If we beat the Bulls tonight then yeah we can be satisfied.