Atlanta Hawks at Rockets: Game thread

  • The Hawks are using their normal starting lineup. All players except Kirk Hinrich (shoulder) are available.
  • There could be a Twin sighting tonight. “The first three games we didn’t play Jason Collins, who was a big part of what we did last season,” Larry Drew said. “I want to preserve him but at the same time I want to make sure I keep him in basketball shape. I take it game by game. It’s pretty much given who will be the first 10 players.”
  • The Rockets will see the Hawks’ fourth game in five nights and raise them the last leg of a back-to-back-to-back. The Rockets also had their flight diverted from Hobby airport to Bush International because of dense fog that was still lingering when my flight landed at Bush this morning. The Hawks’ charter was the last flight to make it into Hobby last night.
  • Both teams figure to be tired but Houston should be downright exhausted. Drew said the Hawks plan to attack: “That’s our whole objective. When you play against a team that has played a back-to-back and has done a lot of traveling, we definitely want to go into this game with an attack mentality. At the same time, on the road, we have to control the tempo. We attack when we can attack. Sometimes a relentless attack is not always the answer.”
  • Josh Smith on Atlanta’s perimeter D: “It definitely helps when you are able to have perimeter defenders who take pride in sitting down on their man and not letting him get past them easy. It definitely takes a lot of pressure off me and Al [Horford] from having to contest a lot of shots and it keeps us out of foul trouble.”

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

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Rich

December 31st, 2011
6:57 pm

doc

December 31st, 2011
7:01 pm

ouch, take that bibby.

Section 303

December 31st, 2011
7:04 pm

Was wondering what the deal was with Jason Collins. He needs to get some minutes tonight. Can’t just expect him to perform without giving him some time.

What a boring New Year’s Eve for me. Recovering from being sick. Decided not to attend a party I was invited to. All alone, since my wife is up north with family. Thank God the Hawks are playing. I would have zero to do otherwise.

Najeh Davenpoop

December 31st, 2011
7:05 pm

“Josh Smith, in my opinion, is the heart and soul of the Hawks. But he also represents why we can’t get to the next level. People keep waiting for him to “get it”, but he simply doesn’t. And his ‘tweener’ status is also a reason why we can’t match up with elite teams.”

They said a lot of the same things about Rasheed Wallace until he won a title.

I firmly believe that as long as a player plays defense, you can put him in the mix with the right group of teammates and build a championship team.

northcyde

December 31st, 2011
7:11 pm

Josh. . . Ken Strickland would agree with you.

Najeh Davenpoop

December 31st, 2011
7:12 pm

“HEDO TURKOGLU???? have you guys seen this man play recently??? He’s flat out terrible nowadays and having him undermines the idea of actually playing defense or rebounding. Add that in with a horrendous contract.

Jason Richardson is older than Joe Johnson, smaller, less productive and presents no matchup problems.”

The only reason I keep including Turkoglu in those trades is because taking his contract off the hands of the Magic improves the Hawks’ chances of getting the trade to happen. I don’t like Turkoglu as a player and I don’t like his contract, but the willingness to trade for him is in itself a trade chip.

“There’s no way Atlanta trades BOTH Joe Johnson and Al Horford to get Dwight Howard. It will be one…with some complementary players and draft picks/cash. That’s the reason this deal will never get done.”

Unless the Hawks part with two players from the core, they are not going to trump a Lakers trade involving Gasol or Bynum.

“Najeh, sounds like you’re saying that the Orlando core with Josh & Teague would be the right combination?”

Maybe. I do think Teague-JRich-Marvin-Smoove-Howard gives the Hawks a chance to go deep in the playoffs right now. But more importantly, I think the fact that Smoove and Al are each owed much less per year than Joe over the course of their contracts means that hanging on to one of them gives the Hawks more cap space to acquire a better supporting cast around those players.

northcyde

December 31st, 2011
7:12 pm

Najeh . . . Rasheed had a good to sometimes very good post game. And he always defended the post well. And he always rebounded the basketball. Rasheed was simply a head case.

BoneKollector

December 31st, 2011
7:13 pm

Stop the jumpshots

BoneKollector

December 31st, 2011
7:15 pm

Marvin being the hero

northcyde

December 31st, 2011
7:15 pm

lol . . thank god for Marvin

Melvin

December 31st, 2011
7:15 pm

Rockets are getting all their shots in the paint and the Hawks are shooting jumpers….

northcyde

December 31st, 2011
7:16 pm

Ball it out MaRVIN !!

Ree Roe

December 31st, 2011
7:16 pm

What has gotten into Marvin brehs?

-REE Roe!!!

RethinkPossible

December 31st, 2011
7:16 pm

Team looks tired….

Najeh Davenpoop

December 31st, 2011
7:16 pm

Marvin is playing well again.

Defense is slacking early again.

BoneKollector

December 31st, 2011
7:16 pm

Josh with the FT problems

Marvin>>>>>Josh

BoneKollector

December 31st, 2011
7:17 pm

Marvin>>>>>Josh

Im gonna keep sayin it till all u get it

northcyde

December 31st, 2011
7:18 pm

Get him Marvin

Melvin

December 31st, 2011
7:18 pm

I don’t like the Hawks body language to start this game..

hawks_4_life

December 31st, 2011
7:18 pm

Not a good start so far.

Najeh Davenpoop

December 31st, 2011
7:18 pm

“Rasheed had a good to sometimes very good post game. And he always defended the post well. And he always rebounded the basketball. Rasheed was simply a head case.”

I’ll give you the first two, but Sheed was never a good rebounder for his size. His career high of 8.2 boards per game has been topped by Smoove in 3 separate seasons. And Sheed was always criticized for the exact same thing as Smoove — drifting out to the perimeter and taking too many jump shots.

BoneKollector

December 31st, 2011
7:19 pm

Hangover from yesterday obviously

Section 303

December 31st, 2011
7:19 pm

No defense being played by the Hawks right now. This one feels like a loss already.

Wabe

December 31st, 2011
7:20 pm

Hawks look like they want no part in a New Years Eve game…

jjm

December 31st, 2011
7:20 pm

Hawks are trash man. I knew it was just because of them scrub teams.

northcyde

December 31st, 2011
7:20 pm

Getting ran off the court right now.

Now we’ll see what this team is made of. See if they can calm down and start playing some defense.

Najeh Davenpoop

December 31st, 2011
7:20 pm

The Hawks look like the tired team so far, not the Rockets. Poor energy on defense. Seeing as how most of the Hawks subs are offensive minded, I wonder who they are going to bring in who will make a difference on the defensive end. Ivan Johnson maybe?

Sautee

December 31st, 2011
7:20 pm

Which team is coming off a back to back?

Wabe

December 31st, 2011
7:20 pm

I wouldn’t say tired…

The Rockets are playing a back to back to back, right? So tired ain’t an excuse.

They look like they just don’t wanna hoop tonight. Prolly tryna hit up a party or some ish. Minds ain’t in the game.

Edward Nigma

December 31st, 2011
7:21 pm

Take out Smith, Horford and Johnson.

Najeh Davenpoop

December 31st, 2011
7:22 pm

Houston is getting into the paint at will.

Najeh Davenpoop

December 31st, 2011
7:23 pm

Until that Smoove drive, the Hawks were struggling to get in the paint.

They need to slow this game down in my opinion.

BoneKollector

December 31st, 2011
7:23 pm

Man he is such a terrible FT shooter UGH

MArvin>>>Josh

northcyde

December 31st, 2011
7:23 pm

Please do that the entire game Josh . . please?

BoneKollector

December 31st, 2011
7:24 pm

And another dumb jumper from Josh

Marvin>>>>>>>>Josh

jjm

December 31st, 2011
7:24 pm

Welp I’m bout to head out. Hope they won

Grandmaster JeJe

December 31st, 2011
7:24 pm

Predicted this entire loss.

Every f’ing time we play this team

Najeh Davenpoop

December 31st, 2011
7:24 pm

So LD’s solution to the team struggling on defense is to bring in Pargo?

I miss Damien.

terrell

December 31st, 2011
7:24 pm

Judging by the 1st 3 games, it looks like our weakest positions are pf and center. Wow! What a difference a year makes.

Wabe

December 31st, 2011
7:24 pm

makes sense….

0-3 from the FT line but the jumpers should fall…

Dream

December 31st, 2011
7:24 pm

Nice drive by JS but bricked the FT.

northcyde

December 31st, 2011
7:24 pm

LOL . . too much to ask i guess

Edward Nigma

December 31st, 2011
7:24 pm

Jumpshooting Josh missing more FTs. SMH

terrell

December 31st, 2011
7:25 pm

And I’m talking about the starters.

Section 303

December 31st, 2011
7:25 pm

Have to have the worst free throw shooting team in the league.

Najeh Davenpoop

December 31st, 2011
7:25 pm

Horrible pass by Pargo.

BoneKollector

December 31st, 2011
7:26 pm

Josh is an IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

northcyde

December 31st, 2011
7:26 pm

pargo is a horrible PG. just good for defense

Najeh Davenpoop

December 31st, 2011
7:26 pm

That was uncalled for.

northcyde

December 31st, 2011
7:27 pm

LOL @ T-Mac getting booed