11:46 am December 29, 2011, by Michael Cunningham
My CineSport recap of Atlanta’s victory over the Wizards in the home opener. (Cut me a little slack, blog people. I was sleepy.)
Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat
December 29th, 201111:49 am
December 29th, 201111:52 am
December 29th, 201111:53 am
I mean didn’t the Wizards beat us like by 96 or something in April?
December 29th, 201111:57 am
Key to this season so far? Our off season. We had some guys who cared during the off-season, trained hard to get better, and the results are showing to this point on the court.
I think last years trip to the semi’s, more than the first two years there, got this team hungry to go farther. And we have about a two year window, before Joe just gets too old, unless we get fortunate on a couple of good 1st picks the next two drafts, for some good energy off the bench.
Some of you guys are silly. You know it was the Wizards right?
Rebounding is about mentality to a degree? And to another degree McGee is a stringbean, Blatche is an immobile idiot and Rashard Lewis is immobile and washed up. etc etc
Lets see what happens when we go to visit guys who’ll likely have Homecourt Advantages in the playoffs ie the Heat or the Bulls.
December 29th, 201111:59 am
This has been an awesome holiday for me before I go back overseas.
I saw my hawks win their season opener and Ill get to see my cowboys win their season finale. Times like this make it hard to go back.
Keep winning hawks
December 29th, 201112:03 pm
Beware the Nets! Why? Whenever you blow out a team the way we did them the other night, the tendency is, is not to play as hard against them the next time you meet.
And the tendency of the other team is too play harder to avoid the blowout again.
So it may be a little bit of a trap game for us, that could get out of hand if we allow NJ to get on a roll.
You don’t want the Nets hanging around until the last 2 minutes of the game in other words. Stomp’um early, and go about your business.
December 29th, 201112:08 pm
The Heat are playing the big 3 too many minutes in a compressed schedule. Yes, the Heat catch some breaks, like 3 or 4 days off in the middle of January, because they started early. But they still play some really tough stretches. Spoelestra may need to takes some L’s now to have a healthy team for the playoffs.
And Pargo and Green are still learning the system – Our last two guys signed. Judge them in a couple of weeks.
December 29th, 201112:09 pm
ken: no disrespect but i haven’t read one of your posts in some time. what i wrote about pargo had nothing to do with you. happy new years buddy.
December 29th, 201112:12 pm
It is way too early to get overly happy or to be antagonistic towards our Team. Let’s wait 25 Games and look at this again.
The Nets are worthless. At worst they’ll put up a better fight. Gotta watch Anthony Morrow. I don’t think Williams will try too hard useless the rest of the team shows up. Other than that, I think he’s pretty bummed out and depressed that he has to be on this wack team.
MAKE EM’ CRY UNCLE HAWKS!!! SHOW NO MERCY!!
December 29th, 201112:14 pm
HONEST ABE-Happy New Year to you to.
December 29th, 201112:15 pm
Speaking of depressed, POOR JORDAN CRAWFORD! He really doesn’t seem happy, especially after letting the Nets steal that game where they were up 21 points.
December 29th, 201112:16 pm
When was the last time the Hawks beat the Thunder? 5 years ago?
Time to sweep this team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
December 29th, 201112:17 pm
BULLS AND HEAT=Nightmare for All ’set shot”…
December 29th, 201112:20 pm
In reference to Pargo, I heard how Mark Jackson was complementing Ish Smith last night. That is the guy who I thought we could have used as a good complement to JT. Time will tell, but Ish had some good games in Houston last year.
Teague vs. Deron – Round 2 Friday
December 29th, 201112:23 pm
No bad MC, not bad at all. Just inject a little more energy and you will have something going there.
December 29th, 201112:28 pm
Wow, Marvin Williams is trending on Rotoworld.
December 29th, 201112:33 pm
Last yr there were complaits about the inability of the Hawks to put away weaker teams like the Nets and Wizzards. Now we’re hearing complaints and/or excuses about them actually being able to put those very teams away. STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES. I love our current bench. I’d take this bench, without Jamal, over our previous benches, with Jamal, any day of the week. TMac is a better defender, rebounder, penetrator, passer and facilitor, and he offers more varsitility.
Radmanovic is Jamal’s equal as a 3pt shooter, is a much better rebounder, and a far more willing defender. Pargo and Green are both much better defenders, and offer us more OFF and DEF options. And IJohnson gives us more energy, agressiveness, physicality and rebounding potential than EThomas, JPowell, or HThomas would have ever provided.
This is why I’ve been so high on this team.
December 29th, 201112:36 pm
17 points, 8 rebounds, 2 steals, 1 block
The boy put up a “Josh Smith” type of stat line. If we can get this type of production from Marvin, look the Hell out!
December 29th, 201112:44 pm
Atlanta’s bench was ranked 16th in scoring last year at 30.3 points per game average.
No reason why they cannot be averaging 40-43 points per game this year especially when Hinrich is back!
December 29th, 201112:45 pm
Marvin is off to a great start!
@ Ken Strickland…
I ain’t complaining one bit!
December 29th, 201112:46 pm
@ Ken Strickland
Reason for the complaints is it’s so early in the season I’ll give them this much they’re not playing down to the weaker competition.
As for Pargo and Green I’d rather keep Green and cut Pargo if he plays like that again he can pack his bags and GTFO just saying.
Compared to what we had to work with last year where it felt like we only had 6 players it feels as though we got at least 11 this year.
Someone either on this blog or another called for Etan Thomas to come back please get him out of here.
December 29th, 201112:55 pm
We now have our PG of the future in JTeague. Actually, we’ve had him all along, but due to circumstances beyond his handlers control, and the circumstances of last yrs playoffs, Drew was forced to let him out of the cage he had him in. A healthy Marvin, along with the addition of TMac, gives us solid and potentially consistent scoring, rebounding and DEF from the SF position. The Hawks will be a serious contender and a formitable foe come playoff time.
Rev in Tampa
December 29th, 20111:02 pm
Atlanta gets the Heat both times in January on the back end of a back-to-back for the Heat. The Heat play the Bobcats on January 1 in Miami and then the Hawks go to Miami on January 2. Hopefully the Bobcats will give them fits again.
The Pacers play the Heat on January 4 in Miami and then the Heat come to Atlanta on January 5.
Meanwhile, the Hawks have the day off each time they play the Heat.
Rod from College Park
December 29th, 20111:11 pm
” I’ve got my body in better shape, and I feel better. I was never going to make excuses, but my back was bothering me the last two or three years. I had a discectomy [June 8]. Basically, I had a disk pressing up against a nerve and it was making my leg numb. A lot of times I would be out there, and my leg would just start tingling. Man, [the NBA lockout] was a blessing for me. A lot of other guys wouldn’t say that, but having that much time to get healthy really helped.”
– Marvin Williams.
All this Marvin love is funny. The guy has played like a professional basketball player for the first two games of the season, against Rashaad Lewis and Damien James. In two games he is averaging 15.5ppg, 8.5 rpg, and 41%FG. I was impressed with him taking the open shots with no hesitation, and playing aggressive. This is how he should always play. Let’s not crown him so fast. He does have 6 years of stats and games that we have used to form an opinion on him on. If the above quote from Marvin is true, then the Hawks medical staff should all be fired. If this guy was walking around with his leg numbing, and a disc pressing against a nerve for 3 years, and did not have surgery earlier, then we have some very incompotent doctors working for the Hawks. Lets wait a couple of games before we make him the best player on the Hawks team (LOL). He does look much better this year, but I am sure that the back problems stem from the fact that he falls so much, because he is always off balance. Lets also hope that his balance is better, because Marvin hitting the boards, and taking and making open shots makes the Hawks a much better team.
The team looks good so far, and I am glad the Drew understands that he will have to play his bench this year. TMac look better than I thought, and if he can stay healthy, he will be the key guy for this team to progress past the second round.
December 29th, 20111:20 pm
RAY-As you said, they’re not playing down to the weaker teams. It certainly not too early for you to realize that fact. Please don’t forget that Pargo didn’t participate in any of our training camp, and hasn’t completely learned our OFF/DEF systems, or his teammates. He’s also nothing more than a fill in until Hinrich returns. Both Green and Hinrich are combo guards, which gives us more size and versatility. His primary job at this point is to provide rest for Teague, run the OFF, and continue to push the ball and play solid perimeter DEF.
Don’t worry about the number of jumpshots we’re taking. Remember, in adding Radmanovic, Green, Pargo, TMac, and Johnson, we’ve added 5 new players who are pretty good jumpshooters, while losing only one(JCrawford). In addition to the number of jumpshots we’ve taken, we’ve also had an increase in the number of FTs taken in the last 2gms.
Doesn’t it seem rather hippocritical for those who claim IT’S TOO EARLY TO JUDGE, to have no problem whatsoever in passing judgement on any player they don’t particularly like within the same time frame?
December 29th, 20111:27 pm
I hear that Lebron feller is much more physical than Damien James and an aging Rashard Lewis.
Is it true?
Keep up the balance Marvin. smh
December 29th, 20111:30 pm
Big words for Marvin, keep it bro.
My MVP so far this season.
December 29th, 20111:31 pm
“Atlanta gets the Heat both times in January on the back end of a back-to-back for the Heat. The Heat play the Bobcats on January 1 in Miami and then the Hawks go to Miami on January 2. Hopefully the Bobcats will give them fits again.
Meanwhile, the Hawks have the day off each time they play the Heat.”
Doesn’t mean much.
Lakers beat Utah on the 3rd of a b2b2b
December 29th, 20111:32 pm
Trade ALL NBA AL and some filler for D12 asap. Make it so.. AYE CAPTAIN!!!!!
We got to win a Championship now!
Mike is Back
December 29th, 20111:33 pm
Rev in Tampa, I believe the performance by Marvin is for real…he just looks pain free…trust me after going through some major surgery myself…I know what it feels like to be pain free. A healthy Marvin on top of his game…could be A MATCHUP NIGHTMARE for a lot of teams.
If we get double doubles out of Josh, Al, and Marvin in multiple games…that spells trouble for the opposition.
December 29th, 20111:35 pm
Marvin being aggressive in stayed of standing around like past 3 years, is the big differnce in his game thus far.
Continue the good work Marvin and Rod from CP will be proud of you LOL!!!!!!!!!
December 29th, 20111:39 pm
Hey Marvin, I’m sorry I ripped into you the past 3 seasons…I had no idea you were hurt like that?
Glad to hear and see you are well and kickin some azz out there dude!! Keep up the good work Sir!!
December 29th, 20111:41 pm
Have Marvin finally matured as a NBA player ?
Time will tell only 2 games played so far.
December 29th, 20111:42 pm
Rev in Tampa
December 29th, 2011
Excellent observation and point. Dem are da breaks!
December 29th, 20111:43 pm
ok last point on pargo. it’s not like this guy is a rookie. he’s always sucked and he sucks even more now. end of discussion.
December 29th, 20111:46 pm
A Stretch Im just wondering why are we so high off the bulls a good team yes a championship team no. They are like ais sixers,but drose is no a.i. One very good and a bunch of role players who arent great so they sacrfice their bodies for defense. We are better than them we rarely play to our potential.
Now Doc the Heat I think is a real title contender,along with spurs,clips, thunder,and maybe Denver. I agree the heat have Wade and Lebron but after that I think the two best players are JJ & AL & maybe then Josh. I’m just not fond of finesse bigs, I want my bigs rebounding and being tough and he plays too soft for me. I like our chances.
Oh yeah doc I wasn’t saying jc stopped Marvin’s growth but what I’m saying is valid it’s like hey you in the allstar game your season avg can’t be twenty if you getting ten minutes and kobe getting twenty. We can’t beat time or numbers
December 29th, 20111:50 pm
Al on the radio now. Says our goal is to be the best team we can be.
Dept. Of Unintended Irony
December 29th, 20111:51 pm
“We can’t beat time or numbers”
Unless one is a drummer.
December 29th, 20111:56 pm
Last night I could not find any stats on the game besides one line overhead. What happened to this arena? ASG needs to step up
December 29th, 20111:57 pm
Rod From CP,
I must agree with you. How does a player’s leg go numb during the game and no one takes notice, WTF? But then again, this is ASG we’re talking about here, shouldn’t be too much of a surprise. What’s even scarier though is that if there was no lockout, Marvin likely wouldn’t have gotten the surgery, SMH.
*shivers at the thought*
Its funny that people are so harsh on Pargo.
He is known to be a bad shooter for his whole career, mostly due to poor shot selection. It’s not that this should surprise anyone.
But yesterday, the majority of his shots were all wide open, within the normal development of the offense and not forced. He simply did not get them to go in.
If he had been throwing bricks on transition or trying to play here, fine, you could all criticize.
I don’t remember some of the guys killing Pargo on the blog being so harsh on Jamal who could go 3 or 4 games in a row ICE COLD whilst bringing zero else to the table.
Pargo had a very decent game in NJ, doing a very good job on D, which is something that Sloan has proven not to be able to do (he is a freeway, even worst on D than Jamal and Bibby together).
Yesterday the match up was a lot more difficult since Wall is virtually unstoppable so practically everyone gets burned by him.
Pargo is our 3rd string PG, so lay off a bit!!!
Both he and Green are new comers which did not even had the benefit of a few days to work and know the system: they are learning and Green was sitting at home so he is probably not even physically ready to work his game.
December 29th, 20112:01 pm
December 29th, 20112:02 pm
All American Al … lol. sounding like Jameer or some backup.
No more media for this guy. Trade him for Bogut and Leuer or if Im crazy enough to dream Dwight and Andersen/Turkoglu.
I doubt that Horford for Dwight will fly. AT ALL. Now Leuer is starting to impress around the league. But Mbah a Moute and Gooden are owed more money and should play right away instead of developing the perimeter Leuer.
Bogut 1 year removed from injury is a good for a Tyson Chandler type 30mpg as predicted.
I though Jon Leer and Bogut could have been had before but now… Probably have to wait till Bucks slide out of playoffs, because if they;re locked into playoffs no way they want to go to war with Horford.
December 29th, 20112:05 pm
All Bosh has to do is stand and finesse from 17 feet. No one likes him but he delivers more oft than not.
December 29th, 20112:07 pm
Over/under the number of games until Smith.Leuer.Bogut have a nervous breakdown on the blog like the almighty TS? Anyone remember him? LMAO.
December 29th, 20112:13 pm
Piqued my curiosity. Someone here had a Nervous breakdown? What do you mean? Over the Hawks? Who’s TS?
He must have bet on the Hawks beating the Bulls. I dont bet lol.
vava: whatever. who’s talking about pargo starting? not me. we all know what he is role is so no need to expound on that point. but he’s not an nba guard. the guy is a career 38% shooter! a 38% shooter! what you saw last night is not an aberration. he’s god awful. he turns it over like it’s nobody’s business. so tell me exactly what he does well. i think you mentioned something about his d. really? i’ve yet to see him come close to guarding anyone. look i know he’s a end of the bench player all i’m saying is he doesn’t even deserve a freaking seat! go look at his career. the guy has been a joke for too long. even his passes are god awful.
willie green on the other hand has a lot of value. he’s tough, hard working guy that can hit an occasional jumper. he’s got high basketball iq and should contribute throughout the season. its too bad the same can’t be said for pargo.
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