Atlanta Hawks: Angling for Dwight Howard
ESPN.com’s Marc Stein reports the Hawks engaged the Magic in trade talks about center Dwight Howard earlier this month.
The Hawks did put together a deal for Howard back when the Magic had him on the market. My understanding is they did so without a commitment from Howard that he would either exercise his contract opt-in for next season or sign a long-term deal. The proposed deal eventually fell apart on Orlando’s end.
I’m not certain which players the Hawks offered but it’s unlikely Josh Smith was one of them. The Hawks would try to entice Howard to sign with the team long-term for the chance to play at home with his good friend.
That leaves either Al Horford or Joe Johnson as the centerpiece in a proposed trade for Howard. Horford has the most appeal for Orlando because of his talent, age and his popularity among the region’s fans from his days at the University of Florida.
The Magic have told teams that they are no longer actively trying to trade Howard while they try to convince him to re-sign. If they decide again to part with Howard, I think the Hawks are likely to re-engage them in trade talks. If, as Stein reports, the Magic are seeking “multiple established veterans who can keep the team competitive” then the Hawks are well-positioned to make a competitive offer and still maintain a good core of players around Howard.
It would be a risky move for the Hawks since it’s possible Howard they could get Howard as a short-term rental in exchange for an All-Star player on a long-term contract. Howard has identified the Nets, Mavericks and Lakers as his preferred trade destinations.
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KZ
December 28th, 2011
10:03 am
Enter your comments here
Earl T.
December 28th, 2011
10:05 am
Let’s do it!
DC
December 28th, 2011
10:05 am
I still do not have any faith in the ASG. They need to show us somethign real. Although, great game by the Hawks last night.
DC
December 28th, 2011
10:06 am
typo – Something.
Hot sauce
December 28th, 2011
10:07 am
Doubt they will trade him to a divisional rival
KevinM
December 28th, 2011
10:08 am
Thanks for this article MC. Many of us have been putting together scenarios for D12. Would the Magic actually take on Joe since they have already played their amnesty card?
Would the Magic take Al, Teague and a couple of draft picks? It just seems illogical to see the Magic dealing him to a division rival, much less an Eastern rival.
JP
December 28th, 2011
10:09 am
Orlando wouldn’t trade him to a division rival.
vava74
December 28th, 2011
10:10 am
KevinM,
Even if ORL had not used the amnesty yet, you can only use it for player ALREADY UNDER contract.
I think this is typical bullsh*t from ESPN and we should not even think about it.
James
December 28th, 2011
10:10 am
Don’t give up anybody really young like Teague to a division rival but definitely at least make a push for him.
J from the A
December 28th, 2011
10:11 am
I wonder if it would be worth it if the Hawks could convince Howard to simply re-up his player option (a la Paul and the Clippers)? This would give the Hawks this year and next to push for a championship, but if Howard decides to not extend past next year, the Hawks could easily see Howard and Josh Smith walk after next year. And considering the Hawks would have to give up either Horford or Johnson (if not both) to land Howard, this would decimate the Hawks for years to come.
Deal sounds great short term, but could be very, very risky long term.
You know....
December 28th, 2011
10:15 am
It looks like Sund did a good job filling out this roster. Veterans and speed guys with lots of energy. The Hawks won’t need superman if they all continue to contribute.
And by the way, Marvin was the best of the many Hawks who saw the floor last night!
J from the A
December 28th, 2011
10:16 am
… given contract expiration dates and the doubt that Howard would stay long-term in Atlanta even if Josh was here, I could see where it would make more since to package Josh in a trade. If you are assuming Howard is probably going to leave either way, packaging Josh would be a lot less riskier long term.
… but as a fan, I would LOVE to see Josh and Dwight on the same team!
J from the A
December 28th, 2011
10:17 am
Clarification: As a fan, I would LOVE to see Josh and Dwight both on the HAWKS!
GO HAWKS!!!
Melvin
December 28th, 2011
10:19 am
If we can bring Howard home and keep Josh, then that deal should have been done yesterday…
kwooden
December 28th, 2011
10:19 am
I feel good that the HAWKS did the obvious! Keep trying Sund!
J from the A
December 28th, 2011
10:20 am
TYPOS! *sense, not since
Melvin
December 28th, 2011
10:20 am
Forget the Clippers. With Teague, Josh and Dwight Atlanta would be the true Lobby City.
KevinM
December 28th, 2011
10:21 am
Trying is not the same as succeeding….I agree with kwooden.
ryan
December 28th, 2011
10:22 am
Do it Al Horford and Joe Johnson and a first round pick that could do it .
John
December 28th, 2011
10:24 am
I am not touching him unless he is extended when the deal is done. I don’t care how good he is. I don’t want the Hawks to trade their team away for a short season rental.
J from the A
December 28th, 2011
10:25 am
Al + Joe + 1st round pick = Dwight and Hedo.
If Dwight and Josh walk by the end of next year, this would spell disaster for the Hawks for years to come. [No Al, no Joe, no Josh, no Dwight, and stuck with Hedo's contract for another year.]
ryan
December 28th, 2011
10:26 am
It looks like the going for the east crown if they make this move they want win now ,
J from the A
December 28th, 2011
10:26 am
Now, if the Hawks can convince Howard to extend, that changes the equation.
KevinM
December 28th, 2011
10:32 am
I don’t see Sund moving 2 captains and especially if one isn’t Josh.
If D12 moves elsewhere, prepare to hear rumors about Josh being moved.
Sautee
December 28th, 2011
10:33 am
Jaded as i am, I wouldn’t doubt that Gearon floated this around to convince the town that they were actually trying. But would they do it? nahhhhhhh
Would the Magic trade within the division? nahhhhhh
ryan
December 28th, 2011
10:34 am
Howard , T Mac , Josh Smith , great front court if Joe is traded then Teague will be the man .
Steven A
December 28th, 2011
10:35 am
Joe Johnson is not an elite player, never has been, and never will be. If you can move him in any
trade right now, you do it!!!!!!
Nathan
December 28th, 2011
10:37 am
After what i saw last night in do not want a trade right now. I saw a more post of Horford, Faster Josh smith, Marvin actually almost getting a double double, Joe make his shots and teague be great. With a great and better bench than last year Go Hawks!
Nathan
December 28th, 2011
10:39 am
The team we have this year is faster and younger to beat the old celtics. We have a center and PG that miami doesnt have. We have more depth than the Knicks. My onlyy concern is the dag um bulls!
Tremaine
December 28th, 2011
10:41 am
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Steven A
December 28th, 2011
10:41 am
What say you Mr. Cunningham??? Your best player, your highest paid player, must have the most heart, the most courage, and the most desire. Mr. Johnson is not wired this way. The Atlanta Hawks must part with this man if they want to win a championship.
ryan
December 28th, 2011
10:42 am
We need to bring D12 home he has said many times he would like to play with his friend Josh Smith i think him playing with Derron Williams is out .
Tremaine
December 28th, 2011
10:43 am
Am I dreaming?
vava74
December 28th, 2011
10:44 am
On last night’s game:
1. Let’s keep it real. On offense we did not play any differently than years past to start the game, the difference was that the shots (long jumpers) went in and NJN were a tired team which did not box out and gave us second chances.
2. The biggest difference for us was our D: guys were rotating and closing on shooters hard, active hands all over, blocks, defensive rebounds. A visible improvement but a very small and unreliable sample.
2. Teague did not play according to my expectations. I assume his ankle is bothering him since I saw a few plays in which he was badly beaten on D by Deron and on offense did not penetrate as much as I was hoping he would.
His 3 pointers looked like his college shots so, if his confidence is up, he may continue to nail them at a sufficiently good pace to get him more space to penetrate (Deron simply gave him on average 5 to 7 feet and invited him to shoot).
3. Horford looked like %&$#, but worked well on D, like everyone else. Let’s hope that he wakes up to the reality that his game is not polished enough for him to stick to starting plays from the elbow (either shooting or driving).
4. Josh did not look good overal but made up, as usual, with key defensive possessions (boxscore is wrong, he had 2 blocks). He also rebounded very well, confirming my view that his weight loss will be very very beneficial.
5. JJ looked a bit sluggish but never stalled the offense, either passing quickly as soon as he had the defense on him or making a quick play to get him a shot. He had a bit bad luck with some of the shots which looked good. His defense was also good.
6. Marvin was good and should keep up being like this: active. Some tips did not went in and some bad possessions looked typical, but the fact is that he was throwing his body around and that is what we need him to do.
7. Pargo was excellent IMO (Rod, my apologies, they guy knows how to play ball) in particular on D, but even on offense, he is quick moving the ball and has a good handle. He got 3 treys to go in, unfortunately, one was overruled by a foul by someone else. That is a good sign. In spite of his elbow jumpers rimming out, they came within a good offensive flow.
8. Green was promising: his legs are not yet there but he had some nifty moves. Kind of looks and plays like a smaller version of JJ on offense and on D was active and alert. I think he will be a good pick up.
9. T-Mac was surprisingly good and he did have plenty of reasons to complaint about the refs. He got wacked at least 3 times without the call. He still has a good first step and with that frame, against opposing subs, he will contribute if his health does not betray him.
Also very alert on D, with good positioning and moving his hands.
10. V-Rad was a huge surprise for me. I knew that he had the skills but he has been a perennial under achiever with horrible effort levels.
Let’s hope that he continues like this since he also seems to have a positive effect on Zaza (it’s like the speak the same basketball language – “Euroball”).
11. Zaza was very good. Active and showing more willingness to make plays and not simply make the safe pass out. Obviously, from a match up point of view, this was a beneficial situation, but with the game already broken his hustle levels were outstanding.
Posterising Shelden was a classic. I want that pic, it will become a collectors edition
!!! Only Shel-head could make this happen!!!
12. Ivan showed in 6 minutes what can make him a bad pick up (his beloved long jumper breaking up a play) and what can make him a terrific pick up (excellent drive, 4 rebounds in 6 minutes, 1 assist AND a no back down attitude that earned him a tech).
We need that type of intensity – lets only hope that the refs don’t persecute him since the tech was to harsh IMO. This is the type of guy which can be brought in when you see a drop in effort levels in order to re-start our engine.
13. Stack looked old, but seem to have a good cooling and stabilizing effect on the second team. He is the coach’s extension on the floor.
One last word:
The quality of the suits on the ATL bench improved dramatically: Bender, Conner and LD all had decent suits and ties to open the season and no longer looked like beaten up insurance salesmen!!!
Mike
December 28th, 2011
10:45 am
Hmm, I am so torn about this but if D12 is willing to extend here, then go ahead and do the trade, however we dont want to go through “The name that never be spoken again” trade again.
Dwight, you are a smart man, Atlanta is your home, you was a Hawks fan when you were younger, your best friend plays here. You can bring this organization farther then the great ones like Nique, Deke, Mookie and so much more. Just food for thought.
i_am_soulstar
December 28th, 2011
10:45 am
Barkley (paraphrased): “You don’t wanna play at home, man. Dealing with family and friends and tickets all the time, it’s a headache.”
I wonder how Howard feels about this statement.
Not that I think the Magic would be eager to trade within the division, but stranger things have happened.
Nathan
December 28th, 2011
10:46 am
Not to mention it was good to get rid of jamal Vlad had twice has much as jamal season’s average has been and jamal went 2-11 last night in shots horrible! Yall need to stop hating on Joe. He is the main part why we were in the playoffs the last 4 yrs and also if we dindt resign him We would be a worst team.
Steven A
December 28th, 2011
10:47 am
Dwight Howard will not come to the Atlanta Hawks, PERIOD!!! If You are Otis Smith, GM of the Orlando Magic, would you EVER make this deal?
DC
December 28th, 2011
10:47 am
Why the Nets?!? That doesn’t make any sense…
Tremaine
December 28th, 2011
10:48 am
Trade any two players except Teague? Don’t do the deal unless Howard sign an extension.
Maybe
December 28th, 2011
10:49 am
Didn’t we just beat them in the playoffs last year? If D12 really wants to come here and WIN a title then he KNOWS we can’t afford to give up ANYBODY.
He would have to sacrifice by taking the vet min here in ATL for ONE YEAR, and then we go over the cap to max him out in 2013. We’d win titles for the next ten years lol. But we all know that won’t happen.
Tremaine
December 28th, 2011
10:50 am
Steven A
December 28th, 2011
10:47 am
Dwight Howard will not come to the Atlanta Hawks, PERIOD!!! If You are Otis Smith, GM of the Orlando Magic, would you EVER make this deal?
Yes, if you can get an all-star like Al Horford and possibly Joe Johnson.
ryan
December 28th, 2011
10:56 am
Derrick Rose went home to Chicago and doing pretty well for him self to say player or superstar can’t handle the pressure of home is not true .
JJ
December 28th, 2011
10:57 am
Don’t think the divisional angle has any bearing whatsoever on this deal. This ain’t baseball where there’s only 4 (now 5) playoff teams and you play your divisional teams 18 or 19 times. NBA teams play basically the same schedule as everyone else and compete moreso against the rest of the Conference for a playoff spot rather than the division. There’s basically no difference in Orlando trading D12 to NJN or Hawks.
All that said, I’ll be downright speechless if Sund and his band of merry misfits (aka ASG) were ever able to actually pull this big of a deal off. No chance.
vava74
December 28th, 2011
10:57 am
ryan,
Rose’s mental strength is 100000000x bigger than Howard’s.
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2011
10:58 am
Melvin, can we get a “Lob Neighborhood” with Teague & Josh? Of course, that requires that Josh approach the rim.
I get the “romance” of two Atlanta kids playing together, but more pragmaticaqlly, I don’t see how they fit well on the offensive side of the floor. Josh ideally needs to be in the post on driving the lane and Dwight is the same. I’d fear that any low-post presence would only result in Josh continuing to live his Dale Ellis fantasies.
vava74
December 28th, 2011
11:00 am
AJ: “Josh continuing to live his Dale Ellis fantasies.”
CLASSIC STUFF!!!!
Ken Strickland
December 28th, 2011
11:04 am
Some of you get so caught up in your likes and dislikes that you can’t seem to think beyond you emotions when it comes to trade scenarios. If you make that trade, you do it in a manner that allows you to maintain a balanced and competitive roster. Trading Teague, JJ, and Horford won’t do that. You offer Marvin, Hinrich, and his expiring contract, Horford, if you have to have Josh to make him want to come here, and a draft pick. That way, you end up with a starting lineup of PG-Teague, SG-JJ, PF-Josh, OC-Dwight, and SF-Radmanovic, who you could use at SF with Dwight manning the post. Your bench would be TMac, Green, Pargo, Zaza, Twin, Johnson, Stackhouse, and maybe Sloan.
If you must, you substitute Zaza for Marvin. However, considering how effectively they’ve seen Twin defend Dwight, they might prefer Twin, and his minimum salary, over Zaza.
JJ
December 28th, 2011
11:04 am
Oh, and if I were the GM, the conversation would take all of 30 seconds and would go like this:
Smith: Hey, we decided to trade Dwight
Me: Pick any two on the roster and I’ll throw in a draft pick. Don’t care what two, just pick any of em.
Smith: How about Joe and Al, but you’ll have to take Hedo as well.
Me: Done and done. Send Superman home.
Smith: Oh, by the way, he isn’t guaranteeing that he’ll resign.
Me: Don’t care, just send him my way.
Smith: Done.
rollow lawson
December 28th, 2011
11:04 am
Don’t get dupped into renting Dwight Howard for a 66 game season. The NBA is watered down this year. Miami might be the only sure thing this year and they lack depth. I like what Sund has done with the bench. And it only gets stronger when Hinrich comes back. I say we roll with what we have. Besides, Dwight Howard is a crybaby!!
KZ
December 28th, 2011
11:09 am
“Oh, and if I were the GM, the conversation would take all of 30 seconds and would go like this:
Smith: Hey, we decided to trade Dwight
Me: Pick any two on the roster and I’ll throw in a draft pick. Don’t care what two, just pick any of em.
Smith: How about Joe and Al, but you’ll have to take Hedo as well.
Me: Done and done. Send Superman home.
Smith: Oh, by the way, he isn’t guaranteeing that he’ll resign.
Me: Don’t care, just send him my way.
Smith: Done.”
Yes.
KZ
December 28th, 2011
11:10 am
Marvin Hinrich and Horford for the 2nd best player in the NBA?
Tremaine
December 28th, 2011
11:10 am
The only way I see this deal happening is if we give up Joe, Al, and Marvin plus a draft pick. We would have to get back DW, Turk, and Jason Richardson.
Tremaine
December 28th, 2011
11:13 am
@Ken Strickland
Your trade proposal is garbage.
hittman jamillion
December 28th, 2011
11:15 am
IN my last post I explained what the Hawks had to gI’ve up and what we realistically could get back. It went something like Al,JJ,2 firsts,Hinrich expiring,& a second.We take bacid DH,Iggy,(Turkolou or Duhon). Philly either get hinrich or marvin and a tested first for their begruntled star & Orlando.gets the rest.DH not going anywhere cause he’s home and playing with two of his homies plus three if we pick up Arenas. This a make us championship frontrunners,and it’s very doable. Even without Iggy and just exiting jj and Al with two firsts and pick up arenas,with DH,Turk,&Duhon to go along with our bench ,a healthy Duck,& Kirk whoa. Fire Sund Hittman for GM.
J
December 28th, 2011
11:17 am
this report is garbage … why not report on facts or things that will actually take place?
Tremaine
December 28th, 2011
11:17 am
@hittman jamillion
Why would Philly agree to that?
newkid
December 28th, 2011
11:19 am
@JJ is likely correct to point out the folly of the contention that a GM is not likely to trade within division. Even a cursory look at playoff pairings reveals that the path to conference playoffs/championships doesn’t necessarily go through the division; rather it goes through sides with best reoords within the conference, irrespective of divisional affiliation. Any GM worth his salt is primarily concerned with the players and other attributes he brings back in a trade, not whether or not the trade is executed with a side in his division. If Atlanta has the most attractive set of trade commodities, Smith would be an absolute imbecile to refuse the trade merely because he shares a division with Atlanta.
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2011
11:19 am
Of course, the other part of ESPN’s article suggests that Howard doesn’t want any part of the Hawks ownership situation. Trading All-Stars for a short-season rental seems fairly dumb. Maybe Dwight would stay, but that would suggest that he isn’t all that interested in winning as he had better talent in past years in Orlando and could likely force himself to a team that has better championhip commitments from their ownership.
Melvin
December 28th, 2011
11:21 am
Astro,
I think Dwight is one of the few guys in the league that can tell Josh to stop shooting jumpers that he would listen to…
KZ
December 28th, 2011
11:26 am
Dwight is the 2nd best player in the NBA.
It’ll take Joe/Josh + Al + 3rd player + pick for Dwight + big contract
hittman jamillion
December 28th, 2011
11:30 am
IN my last post I explained what the Hawks had to gI’ve up and what we realistically could get back. It went something like Al,JJ,2 firsts,Hinrich expiring,& a second.We take bacid DH,Iggy,(Turkolou or Duhon). Philly either get hinrich or marvin and a tested first for their begruntled star & Orlando.gets the rest.DH not going anywhere cause he’s home and playing with two of his homies plus three if we pick up Arenas. This a make us championship frontrunners,and it’s very doable. Even without Iggy and just exiting jj and Al with two firsts and pick up arenas,with DH,Turk,&Duhon to go valong with our bench ,a healthy Duck,& Kirk whoa. Fire Sund Hittman for GM.
Mike
December 28th, 2011
11:33 am
Here is the main reason why, new ownership. ASG wants to sell the team without having the team relocated(very very bad idea) to another city, if you have a marquee player like D12, then you can get another ownership to come in and take over and market him and this team better, put more butt in seats and becoming the hot ticket in Atlanta.
Plus he can do the player option like CP3 did with the LAC, so he can be in the Hawks uniform for full season. If he doesnt want to stay then Josh can go with him but this is a risky move but this what we want from ASG to consider stuff like this.
Going to the game tonight!
December 28th, 2011
11:34 am
Michael Gearon would become the best owner in the NBA overnight!
Lowcountry Bulldawg
December 28th, 2011
11:35 am
I would like to see Howard here but Hedo is another story. This isnt Hedo from 5 years ago. Your front court of Howard,Smooth,Hedo. Teague and then who at SG? The team may be damn good defensively but would struggle scoring points. Unfortuantely the Hawks simply could not include JJ in the deal. They need a lineup of Teague,JJ,Marvin,Smooth,Howard to not only lockdown teams defensively but to put some points on the board.
Melvin
December 28th, 2011
11:38 am
The ESPN article also mentions the Magic doing a 3 way deal with the Rockets and Lakers. They would get back Bynum, Scola and KMart. Now that’s a pretty good three some for the Magic but it will not win them a title. I think Orlando has only two choices when trading Dwight. Receive talents that going to make you an elite team (which is hard to do) or receive young players, draft picks and salary cap flexibility to rebuilt.
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2011
11:42 am
They simply don’t fit offensively (IMO). They both need space to drive and post. Neither should take more than 2-3 face-up jumpers a game. Howard is at his best when he has floor spacers around him (e.g. Ryan Anderson, Rashard Lewis, Turk, etc.) IMO, if Horford were 2 inches taller and maintained his same skill set, he’d be the ideal center to play with Josh as he would be able to keep the painted area free for Josh to explore. Likewise, Horford would be an ideal complement to Howard as he would help on the boards while providing freedom for D12 to dominate the paint.
honest_abe
December 28th, 2011
11:43 am
aj: why add practicality to the discussion. let us dream up nonsense that has no shot in hell of happening. its gives us hope. heh
Trojan
December 28th, 2011
11:46 am
My opinion may change cut I like our roster. DH is the best center in the world but you don’t want to make your roster as weak as Orlando’s in order to get him.
With our deep bench, perhaps the Hawks will be “fresher” in the playoffs than Miami or Chicago.
If LD uses the reserves correctly and enough to keep the starters minutes at a minimum, we will have a huge advantage in the playoffs.
doc
December 28th, 2011
11:46 am
ok not sure if it is dr jekyll or mr hyde on ths schizo team we want to show up but it would be great to see it again and again. we know this team starts hot. we havent seen them on fresh legs against an opponent on a third day of action on unprepared legs and short handed all oh which the nets are but i hope that alone doesnt explain one of the bigger wins ever in my long lifetime; bring it on.
t mac is a gamer means hopefully he is a multi-gamer and is ready to deliver on a regular basis. i am stil concerned about his conditionong because the guys that get to a peak and stay in remain fiy as an emphasis and are gamers there, too. not sure he has that kind of dedication.
nice game marvin again. now dont do your magical act and disappear.
darrell starks
December 28th, 2011
11:47 am
MEMO TO SUPERMAN JUST STAY PATIENT AND WALK AT END OF THE YEAR, that way Hawks keep every one and then sign here. Hinrich 8mill gone Marvin 8mill amnesty that 16mill.
TEAGUE, JOE, JOSH, HORFORD, SUPERMAN.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2011
11:49 am
abe, sorry. I’ll try to restrain my attempts at logic in the future.
KZ
December 28th, 2011
11:50 am
MEMO TO SUPERMAN JUST STAY PATIENT AND WALK AT END OF THE YEAR, that way Hawks keep every one and then sign here. Hinrich 8mill gone Marvin 8mill amnesty that 16mill.
TEAGUE, JOE, JOSH, HORFORD, SUPERMAN.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!”
We’d still not be able to offer enough per year.
BigTimeTECHFan
December 28th, 2011
11:50 am
Season is here, Hawks may have a special lineup working this year. no trade talk till after 25 games.
I like how the starters let the bench do there thing last night, and starter were off the bench pulling for their guys instead of worring about stats.
V-Rad may be key, he can be a huge spark off the bench like Jamal Crawford was but the offense does not stop when he gets the ball. Plus he can play 3,4 or 5 (against Bosh). I can see him causing problems in the playoffs.
Add Hinrich and that Bench lineup is going to be major issues come playoff time
PG Hinrich
SG Sloan / W. Green
C Z. Pachulia / Collins
SF T Mac
PF V. Radmanovic / I Jonson
hittman jamillion
December 28th, 2011
11:51 am
@tremaine philly been trying to ship dude for years,plus they have thad young give them a first hinrich and a second we wont use anyway. Would you honestly not do it?
Podge
December 28th, 2011
11:52 am
Assuming Al and Joe is who Orlando wants, this is the best deal the Hawks could pull. http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bmetggs Obviously Orlando wants to get rid of Turk in the deal and there will be draft picks involved. So Joe, Al 2 1st round picks to Orl for Dwight and Turk and we send Hinrich to Milwaukee for Steven Jackson. That gets Milwaukee out of Capt Jacks contract next year. Gilbert Arenas says he wants to play with Dwight so you could sign him if he is still available. This would be your lineup.
Line Up
Teague
Capt Jack
Marvin
Smoothe
Dwight
Bench
McGrady
Turk
Zaza
VRad
Arenas (doubtful, but maybe)
Pargo
Willie Green
Jason Collins
At the end of the year you Amnesty Turkalou and use that money to bring in some more talent.
If you could pull the Hinrich deal I actually think we would be in position to be competitive this year. I also don’t know of a better deal Orlando could get unless LA is willing to give up both Bynum and Gasol.
KZ
December 28th, 2011
11:57 am
No thanks to Iguodala. He cannot create a shot
Michael Cunningham
December 28th, 2011
11:59 am
@KevinM: “Thanks for this article MC. Many of us have been putting together scenarios for D12. Would the Magic actually take on Joe since they have already played their amnesty card?”
i don’t know for sure but i doubt Joe was part of the proposed trade.
Michael Cunningham
December 28th, 2011
12:02 pm
@Steven A: “What say you Mr. Cunningham??? Your best player, your highest paid player, must have the most heart, the most courage, and the most desire. Mr. Johnson is not wired this way. The Atlanta Hawks must part with this man if they want to win a championship.”
if Howard came to the Hawks, Joe would no longer be the best player. can’t think of many better No. 2s outside of LeBron/Wade.
Prison Mike
December 28th, 2011
12:05 pm
Please don’t take this game in account because Jersey is the worst possible team in the league, bar none. We only shot 44% and basically blew them out by 40.
This is a fair trade all around considering the circumstances.
Joe and Al Horford no picks for Dwight and Turkoglu.
Teague/Pargo
Hinrich/Tmac
Marvin/Turk
Josh/Vlad/Ivan
Dwight/Zaza
Thin at the guard positions but we have options for the 2012-13 season. We got our first round pick including Phoenix’s second round pick which helps with depth. Also have the two exceptions and the amnesty to help lure a shooting guard. I don’t think DH leaves us hanging with the last option year especially being in his home city and CP3 agreeing to work with the Clippers.
Mike
December 28th, 2011
12:06 pm
But I think that added JJ is a smart move, think about this, he is a Top 5 SG and if can get better value then most of this trade ideas.
Prison Mike
December 28th, 2011
12:14 pm
Interesting free agents that may accept the minimum to work with Atl if the deal goes through.
2012 free agents
Ray Allen
KG
Steve Nash
Marcus Camby
The caveat is these guys all average to 37 years of age. Sometimes I love being a fan.
Tremaine
December 28th, 2011
12:14 pm
hittman jamillion
December 28th, 2011
11:51 am
@tremaine philly been trying to ship dude for years,plus they have thad young give them a first hinrich and a second we wont use anyway. Would you honestly not do it?
No, doesn’t make since. They can get a lot more from somebody else.
painter
December 28th, 2011
12:18 pm
He doesn’t want the Hawks, why do we want him?
fcnatl85
December 28th, 2011
12:21 pm
Would you do aresigned Dwight + JRich for Al+ JJ+ Green and 1st?
We would start with:
JT- Pargo- KH
JRich- TMac- KH
Marvin- Radma- TMac
Smoothe- Radma- Johnson
D12- Zaza- Collins
Eric C.
December 28th, 2011
12:21 pm
Ha, I don’t care about the future if there is a chance to win a title now…how many 2nd round exits must We endure…do whatever it takes if it keeps Josh Smith.
Hawks2012
December 28th, 2011
12:23 pm
Okay, guys. I just looked at Ticketmaster, and I already have tickets to the game, but there’s a lot available for tonight at good prices (no service fees too). The Hawks look to be the best they’ve been in a long time, SELL OUT PHILIPS PEOPLE. COME ON.
Runner-
December 28th, 2011
12:30 pm
Horford, 2 first round picks, and Hinrich… get it done!!!
Hawks4Eva
December 28th, 2011
12:34 pm
Knowing how lying organizational heads like Atlanta Spirit Group operate, they put out this B/S just to make it appear to its fan base that they are serious about improving this team. Its all a smoke screen. We are being hoodwinked, and bamboozled. Don’t believe the hype – LIES. All Lies.
fcnatl85
December 28th, 2011
12:37 pm
or Smoothe- Marvin- Zaza- Green and 2 1st for Dwight,JJ Redick and Clark
JT- Pargo- KH
JJ1- JJ2- TMac
Radma- TMac
Horford- Clark- Johnson
D12- Collins- resigned Benson
hittman jamillion
December 28th, 2011
12:39 pm
If what you say is true tremaine. Y the hell philly still have him???
i for one know hes overrated.& could care less but he DH boy
Mike is Back
December 28th, 2011
12:41 pm
MC, it all sounds great …but I don’t see DH coming to the ATL with the current ownership…heck, he might be just as frustrated as we are with ASG.
It’s Good to know that Sund did at least inquirer about a trade for DH.
cp
December 28th, 2011
12:42 pm
I would love to get Dwight here but I just don’t see it happening. That would be a bold move for this front office and they usually play it safe. We would have to give up a lot to get Dwight and would have to take on bad contracts such as Hedo in return. I think the Magic do have to trade him because i don’t see him signing a new contract to stay. I don’t understand why he would want to go to the Nets though, they are terrible. I know its a bigger market but he wouldn’t be in a better situation than he is now.
ant banks
December 28th, 2011
12:44 pm
I SAY GO WITH WHAT WE GOT…
forget the hypotheticals. i love the way the bench was used last night no starter went over 30mins and the bench scored 50+ points. with this condensed scheduled and back to back games, we have the bench and experience to weather the storm. teams with no bench or experience are in trouble with this condensed schedl
Mike
December 28th, 2011
12:46 pm
@cp
I think that Hawks would go into LT land if they can pick up a player like Howard and since we can give up JJ or Marvin then Amnesty the other, still have Hinrich expired contact as well. I know that ASG wouldnt do it but I think they are atleast making a effort.
Mike is Back
December 28th, 2011
12:48 pm
ant banks, I agree…fantasy dreams for DH aside…I think if the Hawks continue to hang their hats on defense…they will continue to have success. That was the differences in the game. They were trapping and being disruptive on the defensive end…they were making their opponent earn their points.
That’s what we have been clamoring for out of this squad. LD, didn’t look surprised by what he seen…the Hawks may have finally found an IDENTITY. ..DEFENSE!
DE IT UP HAWKS…LET’S GO… LET’S GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Steven A.
December 28th, 2011
12:49 pm
Tremaine
December 28th, 2011
10:50 am
Steven A
December 28th, 2011
10:47 am
Dwight Howard will not come to the Atlanta Hawks, PERIOD!!! If You are Otis Smith, GM of the Orlando Magic, would you EVER make this deal?
Yes, if you can get an all-star like Al Horford and possibly Joe Johnson.
I live in Orlando. Dwight Howard is bigger now than Shaq ever was here.
He’s almost as big as Mickey Mouse. If Dwight leaves, Otis knows he loses
his job.
Tremaine
December 28th, 2011
12:51 pm
@hittman jamillion, probably becuase he looked good in camp and they want to see what he is going to do this season. So far so good.
Tremaine
December 28th, 2011
12:56 pm
Steven A.
Dwight is halfway out the door. Orlando needs to stop fooling themselves and go ahead and make a deal. If he wanted to be there he would have signed a contract by now and this blog wouldn’t exist.
Hawks4Eva
December 28th, 2011
12:57 pm
MC –
With Brooks Lopez being out and having surgery for the Nets combined with the Magic’s past experience and heart ache after the disaster that was Grant Hills foot woes when he was in Orlando, question: Do you think that would dampen the Magic’s desire to make the block buster trade to send Dwight there. And secondly, does that improve the chances of Dwight coming to Atlanta.
I would think Dwight is heading for LA Lakers – personally.
Phuch Le` Duch
December 28th, 2011
12:58 pm
pronounced – foosh le duke
michael cunningham
kobe, ray allen, manu ginobli, eric gordon, james harden, andre iguadola.
SteveW
December 28th, 2011
12:59 pm
My only concern is, if Dwight can’t win a championship with a very good Backcourt in Jameer, Richardson, Reddick, Duhon, and Quentin, and a Frontcourt of Big Baby, Anderson, Hedo, and himself, why would we trade a ton of our talent to bring him in. The ATL roster after the trade may have less talent than Dwight currently has in Orlando.
I mean Teague and JJ are good. But is Jameer and J Richardson that much worse?
If as MC says that he doubts JJ was part of the talks – and you know he wants to play with Josh (I say I know – I’m assuming. He may love him as a friend, hate him as a BB player) the trade would have to be something like:
Al, ZaZa, Marvin, and Teague. I guess that’s the only way Orlando even looks at this.
And if Arenas isn’t signed, I assume we sign Arenas to be the PG.
Now a big 3 of JJ, Dwight, and Josh wouldn’t be bad. But we’d need to sign somebody as the backup C.
I know Dwight is a “generational” player. He would anchor the Hawks for the next 10 years probably. But i def. wouldn’t do it unless I was sure Dwight and Josh were to re-sign here.
Guess I’m thinking as I’m typing, but I guess you give up what’s needed to get a Dwight.
I just don’t see if Dwight couldn’t win with what he had last year, and isn’t expected to win this season, and he’s had a pretty good supporting cast, well we can not win championships without Dwight just as well as with him.
Wabe
December 28th, 2011
1:00 pm
Actually surprised to hear this…
Even though it didn’t get anywhere, I have much more respect for an organization that’s genuinely trying to make this a championship caliber team. I think this being in discussions about a bold move such as this one at least signals that Sund is trying…
I do like the way he’s filled out the roster. I’m just curious what kind of package the Hawks were offering.
Wabe
December 28th, 2011
1:02 pm
However, with that said, I’d be completely opposed to this if this was a rental deal.
No use in parting ways with assets for a rental period.
I’m pretty sure Teague + Horford + draft picks would’ve been on the table.
I’d be willing to do that if we had reassurance that dude would extend. If not, don’t even bother.
SteveW
December 28th, 2011
1:05 pm
You definitely give up more to get Dwight than you would to get CP3 however.
I love the idea of getting Dwight, don’t get me wrong. But he did get bothered by Jason Collins of all people.
I’m just not sure this move gets us closer to a championship right now. Maybe it does. Depends on who we trade to get him.
I could see he and JJ and Josh on the court together – that would be a strong lineup right there. And if we had to get Hedo, Duhon, that would just make us that much stronger I guess.
A lineup of:
Duhon/Hinrich
JJ/Green
Hedo/TMac
Josh/Vlad Rad
Dwight/Collins
Yea, you could probably win a championship with that roster. It would scare the life out of the Heat, I know that.
Hawks4Eva
December 28th, 2011
1:09 pm
With regards to this Hawks team:
If the current starting Hawks players – ALL FIVE OF THEM truly believe that they can be true contenders, we can do some damage in the playoffs. Stop being intimidated by the likes of Miami and Chicago. You guys (Hawks) are grown azzzz men also and professional players.
The other key point is, if Larry Drew stick to his guns and have them playing the same style of offense and defense we saw last night regardless of the caliber of opponent, we should be fine. And screw that 2-fouls in the first half and you sit out the half foolishness you did that cost of a playoff game last year.
And lastly, if he (Drew) can instill some sense of confidence in this veteran bench that they are not just in the game just to “give the starters a rest” but to ACT LIKE STARTERS and play EXTREMELY hard and aggressive when they are in the game because its not like they (the bench players) will have to play a lot of minutes in their brief appearance anyway.
We should be fine.
SteveW
December 28th, 2011
1:09 pm
Having Dwight as your anchor for the next 10 years is a good set up for any team. Al/ZaZa/Marvin/Teague for Dwight/Hedo/Duhon – Yea, I guess I do that all day long.
And Orlando then has Al/ZaZa at C, Anderson/Big Baby at PF, Marvin at SF, same at SG with Jason Richardson, and Teague and Jameer at PG, and a ton of wing depth.
That’s not a team to sneeze at in Orlando if that type trade was to go down. Good backcourt and a solid frontcourt for them, with depth. Hmmm…
SteveW
December 28th, 2011
1:12 pm
Oh well, I just wasted a whole lot of my life typing about something out of my control, and for something probably not going to happen – Go Hawks! Beat the Wiz tonite!
And don’t let Jordan Crawford do well, or Singleton for that matter. I don’t want to think about the trade…
Mike
December 28th, 2011
1:12 pm
Most ppl need to realize that he can do what CPIII did and do the player option, so he is going to be there for this year and next to see if he wants to stay or not.
But it gives the Hawks two years to signed him into a long-term oontact and set-up a plan if he and Smith walks.
BoneKollector
December 28th, 2011
1:16 pm
Why do this???
Just so Howard can leave for another team. Don’t tell me u guys are this dumb to want to rent howard
Wabe
December 28th, 2011
1:17 pm
http://www.nba.com/2011/news/features/shaun_powell/12/27/hawks/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt1
Tremaine
December 28th, 2011
1:17 pm
SteveW
I guess we have to wait until after next week until you change your mind.
Tremaine
December 28th, 2011
1:18 pm
BoneKollector
December 28th, 2011
1:16 pm
Why do this???
Just so Howard can leave for another team. Don’t tell me u guys are this dumb to want to rent howard
Of course we don’t do this unless he sign some type of extension.
vava74
December 28th, 2011
1:25 pm
Stop losing time with things that will not happen.
Dwight is tired (already!) of trying to win a championship in a franchise that has no weight.
He wants to move where he knows he will be lined up to be a champ just by historical destiny and where he has a huge market and the possibility of working in the movie industry (the Lakers), to a place where he knows he will be in a huge market with an owner with deep deep deep pockets (Brooklyn Nyets) or to the current champs (who also have an owner with deep deep deep pockets and still a very good team).
Sol
December 28th, 2011
1:31 pm
Zaza, Josh and 2 sirst round pick for D12 or JJ and Josh and a first rounder for D12 and Turglu. Just give what ever as long as D12 is singinig an extention.
Mike
December 28th, 2011
1:35 pm
@vava74
Okay, let play
Lakers: If you give up Byumm and Gasol, outside of Kobe, who else can take over if he or Horward isnt on. In fact, their frontline would be very thin and against teams like Spurs, Thunder, and others. They would be eating up for lunch and God forbids if Howards gets into foul trouble.
Nets: After last night, even if they did get him, do you think that Devon and Howard can get into the playoffs with a performed like that.
Even moving to Brooklyn, do you think that their fortunes will change like that?
Mavs: Who can they give up for D12?!?!? Odom, Heyward and who else. They are very old and shows right now. They have no draft picks and everybody knows
vava74, you right we need to stop losing time with this but atleast we are trying to get better so you dont come on here and complain about this team as usual.
doc
December 28th, 2011
1:35 pm
ok best case scenari dwight jj and change for al marvin and hinrich. would do it without hinrich and change if possible and salaries fit but dont know jj reddick that is contract. that is what i dont like about these tpe of blogs where fantasy takes over.
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2011
1:36 pm
Yeah, I think the only news here is that the Hawks did their due diligence and made an offer to acquire Dwight. But ultimately, Orlando rejected the offers of ALL teams (not just the Hawks) and have have decided for the moment to keep D12.
Meanwhile, I personally don’t care what JC2 or Singleton do in this game tonight. They are fish in a lousy pond. They should get plenty of playing time for a lottery-bound club.
kwooden
December 28th, 2011
1:39 pm
Good article on Donald Sloan – http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/12/chasin-the-dream-picking-a-camp/
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2011
1:42 pm
I wonder if the Hawks are shaking in their Nikes?
espn ESPN
“A new big 3 has announced its arrival — Wall, Crawford and Blatche.”- Wizards Owner Ted Leonsis #QuotesoftheYear ->
Prison Mike
December 28th, 2011
1:48 pm
I think the artist formerly known as Duck is a wild card. If he can average 15 and 8 until the deadline, it creates yet another piece to the puzzle.
Horford, Marvin, unprotected 2013 pick is pretty decent for an uncertain future with Dwight. As the article states, Atlanta has players that have value.
Tremaine
December 28th, 2011
1:48 pm
kwooden
December 28th, 2011
1:39 pm
Good article on Donald Sloan – http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2011/12/chasin-the-dream-picking-a-camp/
Yawn…………
Ken Strickland
December 28th, 2011
1:49 pm
Barkley is just talking trash. After all, he was born and raised on the outskirts of small town WHO GIVES A SH!T, AL Dwight would have to deal with that issue no matter where he ended up.
honest_abe
December 28th, 2011
1:52 pm
“A new big 3 has announced its arrival — Wall, Crawford and Blatche.”- Wizards Owner Ted Leonsis #QuotesoftheYear ->
thats pretty pathetic compared to the hawks new big 3 of tmac, slick willie and bombs over radmo. i even managed to come up with 3 awful nicknames.
slow day at work.
Buddy Grizzard
December 28th, 2011
1:55 pm
Bender, Conner and LD all had decent suits and ties to open the season and no longer looked like beaten up insurance salesmen!!! – Vava
Lol THIS is a positive development!!
KevinM
December 28th, 2011
1:56 pm
No one is listening to any Hawks proposal unless 2 of the Hawks all stars are included. You’re talking about the dominant big man in the league.
Al, Joe, and Teague might get it done with fillers on both sides. It will take a CP3 blockbuster to get Otis Smith’s attention. No way you can include Marvin in a deal and call it a value add for the Magic.
Yes, we would have to do a 3 for 1 starter deal to get Dwight. I have no doubt in that and don’t overvalue our guys. Marvin can’t be given away, even after a breakout opener against NJ.
No one is doing a Marvin for a 2nd rounder in this league.
Would I do 3 for 1? You bet I would in this case.
kwooden
December 28th, 2011
2:02 pm
Tremaine any press is good press for the HAWKS!
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2011
2:02 pm
Kevin, the Hawks only have 2 All-Stars.
And if Marvin is pulling down 8 boards (something that probably no SF does in the league), then what are Horford and Josh doing? Earning the admiration of opposing coaches and passionate fans?
Tremaine
December 28th, 2011
2:04 pm
Dwight Howard will really be a Shaq wannabe if he goes to the Lakers.
honest_abe
December 28th, 2011
2:05 pm
since we’re on the topic of fantasy deals. how about a 3 way with LA, ORL & ATL?
orl gets al horfod, bynum and marvin.
la gets dwight howard, hedo and hinrich
atl gets gasol, ron artest and earl clark
honest_abe
December 28th, 2011
2:07 pm
metta world peace – my bad.
Rufus1
December 28th, 2011
2:08 pm
@honest_abe
That trade might work…..
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2011
2:08 pm
Tremaine and he’ll likely be wearing a ring.
Howard is the ultimate role player but he is NOT winning a championship as his team’s finisher. In a late, close game situation, you can;t have him touch the ball because he shoots 55% from the free throw line which is how he will be defended. So gutting a team for someone who can’t lead comeback, can’t be the go-to-guy and can’t lead makes no sense to me. It makes the product more entertaining but no closer to getting out of the 2nd round (again, if you have to gut the team).
Tremaine
December 28th, 2011
2:15 pm
Astro Joe
Are you talking about Joe Johnson or Dwight Howard?
Tremaine
December 28th, 2011
2:17 pm
FOR THE RECORD, WHO IS NOT FOR TRADING TO GET DWIGHT HOWARD?
Mike
December 28th, 2011
2:18 pm
@honest_abe
I dont know about that Metta World Peace on this team, I will cry myself to sleep right now. But for real, this wont work, besides I dont think that ASG will go into LT land with person like Pau Gasol, maybe 5-6 years ago but right now, nope nope and nope.
KZ
December 28th, 2011
2:20 pm
“A new big 3 has announced its arrival — Wall, Crawford and Blatche”
My feet are shaking.
KevinM
December 28th, 2011
2:22 pm
“Astro Joe
December 28th, 2011
2:02 pm
Kevin, the Hawks only have 2 All-Stars.”
Haha, I am aware of that and it will take both to get him. I threw Teague in there because they will not accept a Marvin over a up and coming PG.
Can we find a PG easier than the top center in the league? I say yes, but I find it hard to believe that Gearon or Sund have the ability to bring in elite talent. It will have to come through the draft.
Gordon, Kaman (previous all-star), Aminu and Minny’s #1 for CP3…..what do we have to offer that is of similar value without the 2 all stars?
EmirS.
December 28th, 2011
2:23 pm
“We have a center and PG that miami doesnt have.” -Nathan
They also have a combo guard, a “three” guard, and a PF that we don’t.
EmirS.
December 28th, 2011
2:31 pm
“Dwight is the 2nd best player in the NBA.
It’ll take Joe/Josh + Al + 3rd player + pick for Dwight + big contract” -KZ
Basketball is a team game. Ask Kobe.
EmirS.
December 28th, 2011
2:34 pm
“This isnt Hedo from 5 years ago.” -lowcountry bulldawg
Actually I’ve seen both of Magic’s games this season. He looks a bit like Hedo from 2009. But it’s early in the season to tell for sure. But showing alot of promise.
Tremaine
December 28th, 2011
2:40 pm
From probasketballtalk
The Magic will not get equal value in trading Howard away. You never do when you trade a superstar. But to demand veterans so you can be competitive means the Magic are likely headed for mediocrity — the dangerous NBA middle ground. Teams that are good enough to make the playoffs but not be contenders; teams that are not bad enough to go up in the draft and get a superstar that way. They get stuck in that middle with no easy way out.
Lol, does this place called mediocrity sound familiar guys?
Mike
December 28th, 2011
2:41 pm
EmirS.
The only way we give that up, if the ASG is completely high that night. There is no way that Hawks is going to give up that much unless he resigned then everybody is on the table except for Teague and Smith.
Wabe
December 28th, 2011
2:44 pm
The Bulls could probably offer one of the best packages for Dwight…
I’m sure they’d be willing to part ways with their bigs. They’re loaded with bigs.
Noah, Gibson, Asik.
Pick 2 and take 2 first rounders.
Possibly throw in another peice if necessary.
They’d definitely offer a better package than anything the Lakers or Nets would put together.
I think the Hawks could probably peice together something better than what the Lakers and Nets can put together.
Trojan
December 28th, 2011
2:53 pm
It’s more fun to talk about the possibility that we could be 2-0 after tonight. Hopefully our deep team can impress.
Rufus1
December 28th, 2011
2:53 pm
Sekou Was on 790thezone….They asked about the Hawks game
He sounded like a man who has been living as BUM for last year, but just remembered he has 1mil in the BANK.
He also remembered, we were only 1 of 3 team to get to the 2nd round for 3 straight years.
He also remembered, why Vlad was the 12th pick in the draft and why he was once making 7mil a year.
_____________________________________________________________________
The Super Subs
T-Mac was an A-Level Player, if he gets back to 75% of what he was, he is a B-level player….++++ He won’t be afraid of the PLAYOFFS.
T-Mac, Vlad, Pargo, Kirk, and Zaza as team could win 10 games in the NBA,…What will that mean to the Hawks.
Go Hawks.
Mike
December 28th, 2011
2:53 pm
Now Bulls does have alot of good pieces but here is the thing, most of those pieces is off from the bench except for Noah and we all know that Horford is better than Noah. Since they have 1st round from Bobcats but that is a condition pick. Hawks package is alittle bit better because you are going to get atleast All-NBA or All-Star type player, good cap relief, and maybe alittle bit lower draft choice but ASG would probably sell that pick anyway.
So it is a push between Bulls and Hawks.
ryan
December 28th, 2011
2:53 pm
Why would Orlando want Bynum he gets hurt a lot at least Horford stays healthy .
KevinM
December 28th, 2011
3:00 pm
Our offer will have to trump all other offers.
Plain and simple, we are the underdog in any trade discussions.
We are the Clippers of the East until proven otherwise.
keepinitreal
December 28th, 2011
3:01 pm
It’s at least encouraging that the Hawks are looking at Dwight. Even if it’s a longshot that we get him, the Hawks being in the discussion to land a legit superstar gives us something we haven’t had in a very long time: hope.
I’d do whatever it takes to get him. You have to have superstars in the NBA or you have no chance. If you have Dwight, you have a chance. You just have to put the right pieces around him.
EmirS.
December 28th, 2011
3:01 pm
I would still love to see Noah in a Hawks jersey.
Jump Shooter X
December 28th, 2011
3:03 pm
I don’t know if I’d trade JJ & Al for Dwight. That’s two starting players for one. I’d love to have Dwight but the Hawks would still need perimeter outside scoring if they made a trade like this.
Tremaine
December 28th, 2011
3:04 pm
keepinitreal
December 28th, 2011
3:01 pm
It’s at least encouraging that the Hawks are looking at Dwight. Even if it’s a longshot that we get him, the Hawks being in the discussion to land a legit superstar gives us something we haven’t had in a very long time: hope.
I’d do whatever it takes to get him. You have to have superstars in the NBA or you have no chance. If you have Dwight, you have a chance. You just have to put the right pieces around him.
cosign
darrell starks
December 28th, 2011
3:09 pm
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GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EmirS.
December 28th, 2011
3:09 pm
http://www.nba.com/hawks/fans/Harry_Childrens_Hospital.html
LOL come on guys! This is funny, I love it!
Slimjr
December 28th, 2011
3:20 pm
JJ and All “set shot” for D12? Do it yesterday..Aye Captain!
I’m sticking to my prediction from 2 weeks ago! Hawks go 18-4 first 22 games!
Go Hawks…
BTW the FAL-CONS are done! Stick a fork in that bird!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2011
3:29 pm
Trade Josh to LA for Bynum.
Tremaine
December 28th, 2011
3:31 pm
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2011
3:29 pm
Trade Josh to LA for Bynum.
That would be nice to.
hawksfancents95
December 28th, 2011
3:35 pm
@mc
thinks for bringing this trade rumor up. I remember reading on espn dwights prefernces and wondering why atl wasnt on the list? i think orlando is not going to retain dwight after a mediocre start and trade him, idk if LAL will be willing to give up pau & bynum but if i were orl id rather have joe & al. idk how willing theyd be to trade in the division but al is young and proven with some potential and joe is going to be the #3 shooting guard in the NBA for the next 3 years.
Dwight Howards do not become available every year and if we want to make a move for perennial contenders in the NBA, not just eastern conference, we need to make moves.
theight
December 28th, 2011
3:42 pm
If they would trad him to the Nets why wouldn’t they trade him to the hawks. This isn’t football where the divisional winner gets an automatic bid to the playoffs.
hawksfancents95
December 28th, 2011
3:44 pm
ooo i found why d12 isnt interested in atl. nbainsider.com says ..”dwight wants no part of atlantas perpetually unsettled ownership situation”.
honest_abe
December 28th, 2011
3:45 pm
Trade Josh to LA for Bynum.
all day.
Mike
December 28th, 2011
3:48 pm
You think that Dr. Buss is going to make that trade? I swear, what is about Bynum that everybody like. He never really play hard and his injury proned as well. I dont see the ASG going to LT Land for him. I will go over a superstar or somebody is going to make a difference. The moment that Bynum hurts himselve, we are screwed.
KZ
December 28th, 2011
3:50 pm
Al Marvin and ZaZa for Dwight and Redick….Wow..
Ra'mon
December 28th, 2011
3:53 pm
Stay away from Bynum. Bynum will never be what he’s projected to be. Even when healthy, Josh has better numbers than Bynum. Bynum leaves LA he will turn into Haywood.
honest_abe
December 28th, 2011
3:53 pm
mike: you seem to forget josh has immaturity issues of his own. you are right about the fact that i doubt la would trade bynum for josh straight up. bynum has more upside. josh can’t shoot, dribble or post up. but he sure as heck can swat a ball out of the air.
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2011
3:58 pm
A starting lineup of Bynum, Al, Marvin, Joe & Teague is far better than some of the proposals I have read here, which is mostly D12, Josh, Adam Morrison, Bonzi Wells (or whatever other stiffs we can find) and Teague. And the Hawks owners wouldn’t have to spend an extra penny to put a team around their new core that includes Bynum.
Harry Hawk
December 28th, 2011
3:58 pm
Hell, I’d trade Josh for Bynum. I’d even throw in Stack.
Mike
December 28th, 2011
3:59 pm
but if he cant stay in good health, then it is for not, we dont have a Pau Gasol-type person that can replace him if he goes down.
When health, he is a force but too many negative and not enough positive and you cant really marketing him or make him the next big thing in Atlanta. You can do that for D12.
Ra'mon
December 28th, 2011
4:03 pm
Please realize the Lakers are like the Yankees. They are never on the bad side of a trade. So if they’re being let go of by the Lakers, then something is wrong. With the exception of Shaq, who has been a high impact player after ever leaving the Lakers? Maybe only Vlade?
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2011
4:05 pm
Ra’mon, Bynum doesn;t get the same FGAs as Josh. Look at what he did with more shots during the playoffs.
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2748/andrew-bynum
The other thing is that Bynum has a team option next season. If there are health problems, then you cut him loose and have over $20M expiring between him and Hinrich. If he holds up, then you keep him next year. Oh, and did you really talk about players who won’t reach their potential as a way to DEFEND Josh?
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2011
4:07 pm
If Bynum goes down, we replace him with a 2 time All-Star center. #15 in the game program. Doh!
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2011
4:10 pm
Didn’t the Braves get Arodys Vizcaino from the Yankees 2 years ago for a pitcher who had a losing record for them the following year?
Luke Cage
December 28th, 2011
4:12 pm
I would only take D12 if he agreed to a contract extension, if not I WOULD NOT MAKE THAT TRADE FOR DWIGHT HOWARD!!, no sense in blowing up your team for a guy to come for a short season and then leave after it. Remember Top Free Agents don’t have ATL on their radar so HOWARD MUST AGREE TO A CONTRACT FIRST!!
Tremaine
December 28th, 2011
4:13 pm
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2011
4:07 pm
If Bynum goes down, we replace him with a 2 time All-Star center. #15 in the game program. Doh!
NICE! Some fans love living in Mediocrity. Probably popped a bottle of champagne after last night win.
Ray
December 28th, 2011
4:15 pm
As much as I love Dwight to be here in ATL no way I’m getting rid of both Al and Joe for just Dwight and a bag of chips.
I don’t really like either player a whole lot, but even still I know their worth more than that.
Ra'mon
December 28th, 2011
4:18 pm
AJ if a player gives you 18 and 11 50% of the time. And is injured the other part of the time. And another player gives you 16 and 8 85% of the time. How design it compare? Also, Bynum has been in the league for a good while, and was always supposed to have more potential than Josh. If you are trading, I still say trade Al for Gasol, if you can’t get Dwight.
drmaryb.[*_*].
December 28th, 2011
4:19 pm
Pictionary!
“Atlanta Hawks: Angling for Dwight Howard
10:00 am December 28, 2011, by Michael Cunningham”
____________
Define “angling”?
hittman jamillion
December 28th, 2011
4:26 pm
,TO VAVA AND ANYONE ELSE WHO DOUBTS WE CAN DO GOOD, I remembered the Lakers after Magic before Kobe,the Celtics after Bird,Pistons after Isiah,Knicks after Ewing,& the Rockets after Hakeem. I’m saying this to say why the hell will Dh go to Dallas or L.A to play with a star whose ten years older than he is? And NJ has no team at all we almost be them by forty IN THEIR HOUSE.
The argument the majority of yall are making for not having him are damn right illogical. First off yall clown Horford saying we need a true center. Then the best center and arguably the games best player is available now you don’t want him,more confused than 3 homo thugs in a room with Chris Bosh and Beyonce. Then you saying the attendance a be bad potna, if Carmello can make white people support Denver Nugget basketball which was terrible in attendance for yearsLebron can pack country Cleveland,and DH can pack Orlando. How the hell u think Dwight can’t get these money blowing,making it rain,heavy partying people in Atlanta to not come.The falcons never won a championship with Vick but we always thought we could win with the best athlete in the league.
News flash people want to enjoy themselves,be entertained,and win. As far as points we would get so many off turnovers alone,the perimeter is sealed even if you beat teague where u gone go with the best two shot blockers in the lane? You double DH Josh or Marvin has a clear shot to the rim,or Turk has a open three or it a clear drive.
Astro Joe
December 28th, 2011
4:28 pm
Ra’mon, the scoring differential is about FGAs… hard to score without shot attempts. Heck, Bynum is the second low post option on that team, not to mention some guy named Kobe who has been known to take a handful of shots every now and then. Bynum’s injuries are the only concern I would have and given his contract could expire next season, I see very little risk.
drmaryb.[*_*].
December 28th, 2011
4:30 pm
Stern Rules!
Isn’t there something in the new CBA that requires a max player leaving his team in a SNT must play for the new team 2 seasons? Even, if the max player doesn’t sign an extension?
Point of Reference: CP3 to the Clippers. He can not become an UFA for the next 2 years. Correct me if I’m wrong, because I would gut my team for the next two years to land Dwight w/o an extension.
Perhaps we will have a new owner by then. Or, SNT Dwight to his next team for some new pieces and 1st picks (unprotected). Do something to get a first ballot HOF er in here. Pack the arena, if only for a minute.
i_am_soulstar
December 28th, 2011
4:34 pm
Just not a smart move without an extension. Ownership would be foolish to give up 2 of the 3 captains for a 66 game rental.
PEDRO EL GITANO
December 28th, 2011
4:35 pm
Enter your comments here
Mike
December 28th, 2011
4:37 pm
@drmaryb.[*_*].
That is correct, he had to stay here for 2 years and that is alot of time to see if want to stay or get ready to move on without him.
MattP
December 28th, 2011
4:38 pm
drmaryb.[*_*].,
CP3 had to option in for the next season for the clippers to do the trade, it had nothing to do with the new CBA.
hittman jamillion
December 28th, 2011
4:49 pm
If he dont stay sign and trade his ass for bynum and whoebever anyway
FreshFromATL
December 28th, 2011
4:51 pm
Trading Joe, Josh, Teague and D12 only to have D12 bolt at the end of the year is something I could definitely see this ownership group doing, SMH.
FreshFromATL
December 28th, 2011
4:52 pm
*Correction*
Trading Joe, Josh, and Teague for D12 only to have D12 bolt at the end of the year is something I could definitely see this ownership group doing, SMH.
ILL-Logical
December 28th, 2011
4:53 pm
Good stuff re today’s topic MC,thanks.
One perspective that didn’t get a lot of play during the discussion is the entertainment component of the NBA. While there can only be one champion, fans attend/watch/stream NBA games to be entertained by the chosen few like Kobe,LaBron or Dwight. Even if they don’t win the ring. Further, they buy products associated with these “stars” whose sales benifit the league ,the team and the player. Case in point: Kobe is paid &30 million a year by the Lakers but ,according to Lakers’ brass, he generates $ 50 million a year in revenue.
So the question of w/not Dwight makes the Hawks better -and he does in terms of defense and defense wins championships- should be expanded to include w/not he brings in more revenue? And remember the revenue is taxable, so the city gets a cut as well.
Ra'mon
December 28th, 2011
4:54 pm
AJ, I would trade Al for Bynum, but no Josh.
PEDRO EL GITANO
December 28th, 2011
4:59 pm
Media hora escribiendo y no me publicaron el texto!!!Bueno,me armo de paciencia y voy otra vez:
Profundisma plantilla,deja sin aliento ver a este equipo defender de esa manera que hicieron anoche.Podemos defender al limite porque cualquier eliminacion por faltas sera prefectamente cubierta por alguien igual o mejor capacitado o inspirado que el sustituido.Mencion especial merecieron Radman(esta haciendo el mejos baloncesto de su vida)Y Zaza.
En cuanto a Dwight Howard creo que lo que podemos ofrecer a Orlando no se lo puede ofrecer nadie.Como aqui se ha dicho ya,Joe no es un jugador de elite,traspasarlo seria lo mejor.En este equipo nadie es imprescindible y nuestra fuerza esta en la segunda unidad(55 puntos anoche,un escandalo)asi que pienso que ese traspaso podria darnos un campeonato este mismo año.De todas maneras la actual plantilla es una apuesta de presente.Es nuestro ahora o nunca.Hoy somos un equipo terrorifico,con Howard seguiriamos siendo un equipo terrorifico con una referencia en ataque y en defensa.
Estoy deseando que nos midamos a Miami,ahi se veran nuestras posibilidades reales.Esta va a ser una temporada historica.Washington nuestra proxima victima;de momento pocos hablan de nosotros,pero lo haran cuando vean que ganamos a equipos grandes.Vamos a dejar sin aliento a la nba,pero paso a paso,con paciencia.GO HAWKS!!!!
Ken Strickland
December 28th, 2011
5:00 pm
We’re about 3hrs from our 1st home gm, and 2nd gm of the season. Therefore, all of you DELUSIONAL TRADE FANATICS need to get back to reality, if you can, and deal with the Hawk team that whipped up on New Jersey and is about to play the Wizzards tonight. All of these lineups and trade scenarios that are being congured up in your heads are a waste of time. Some of you have your heads so far in the clouds that you think Dwight’s friendship with Josh is all that’s needed to get him to come here, as if Josh is his only friend in the NBA.
Dwight wants out of Orlando because he doesn’t believe they have enough talent to get him where he wants to go. So what in the devil makes you think he’d want to come to a Hawks team that would end up being less talented than Orlando, after trading away all of the talent and draft picks some of you are suggesting we foolishly give up? While Dwight is definitely the NBAs most dominant Big, he has yet to improve his overall skills enough to make the players around him that much better.
He’s had a good backup center, several good SFs, PFs, PGs, SGs, and a decent bench, yet his team has actually regressed since losing in he NBA finals. As far as our core being together longer than the core of the Celtics, Mavericks and Lakers, and them winning championships, you need to look at the difference in coaching, ownership and stability.
Ra'mon
December 28th, 2011
5:04 pm
Now, as a fan of Josh, I would love for Josh to end up in LA. Because I know, Dwight would be right behind him. But as a Hawks fan, Josh is needed here.
Don't Need Howard After Last Night
December 28th, 2011
5:13 pm
From what I saw, though the first game, this team can make a serious run this year. All of the pieces are there (albeit a true center). The additions in the offseason, including McGrady and the 6′10″ 3-point dude, and the emergence of Teague will make this team hard to handle. McGrady’s leadership will be a huge plus.
This team will play in first ECF since 1988. Mark it down!
hawks_4_life
December 28th, 2011
5:15 pm
Guess you cant fault Sund now for not trying.
hawks_4_life
December 28th, 2011
5:19 pm
Yesterday one thing I noticed during the warmup was how many mid range jumpers Josh was taking. Unfortunately they werent falling for him then so I might be a little worried regarding that about his game.
superiorblogman
December 28th, 2011
5:39 pm
Not interested in pipedreams. Don’t see how this makes us better either.
Teague
?
Marvin
Josh
Dwight
No real outside shooters and everyone would have to up there games. Not sure about that happening.
Jeff
Joe
Marvin
Turk
Howard
That’s actually as decent as what the Magic went to the Finals with.
Not really a fan of this. Would have rather signed Dalembert or trade Kirk,Marvin, or Zaza for a true Center like Dalembert, Kaman, Okafor, Biedrins, Bogut. Not with gutting the team I love for some guy that might come here and take a dump on us all and move on.
northcyde
December 28th, 2011
5:46 pm
The skeptic in me wouldn’t put it past Gearon to leak some false rumor about the Hawks trying to get Dwight Howard, just to take some of the heat off of him and show that he DID go after a top notch player ( even though no one in that Hawks organization said anything about. Even Sund was saying “I like our bigs”, at the time of the Dwight frenzy. So I wouldn’t be surprised if this rumor is straight bull shiddddd.
But like I said when the Dwight trade talk was at its highest . . . if you have to trade ANY 2 of the CORE to bring D. Howard to Atlanta, you do it . . without hesitation . . even if it means risking only having him for one year.
A person in this thread said earlier to let Orlando pick which two of our stars that they want + a draft pick . . . and get the deal done. Doesn’t matter which combination.
Johnson + Smith
Johnson + Howard
Howard + Smith
Doesn’t matter. Do the deal
You do it, because the window of opportunity for this team, with The Core leading it, is about 2 years. You also do it to create maximum buzz about this team in Atlanta, and on a national scale.
Also . . when Smith becomes a free agent in 2 years, anybody and everybody is going to be after that kid, if he’s at the current level he is now or better. He’ll get close to a max contract from a team desperate to have his skillset.
The other thing that will happen in two years, is Jeff Teague becomes a restricted free agent. We could retain Teague, but lose Smith via some team giving him some outrageous contract. But if Teague becomes very good, he’s going to get a big contract as well.
So the Summer of 2013 is definitely the zero hour for “The Core”. If they’re not on the cusp of reaching the NBA Finals by then, SOMEONE has to be dealt, or someone may voluntarily leave.
It’s amazing the people who wouldn’t trade two of our guys for a person who will be a Hall of Fame center. If you wouldn’t trade pieces of the precious “Core” for a guy like this, you’ll never trade them for anybody.
If Dwight stays, you have a bonafide top notch center for the next 5 – 6 years that will keep the Hawks relevant and in contention. If he leaves, you rebuild the team behind Teague + whichever “Core” member is left . . and have a tremendous amount of cap space to do it with.
Buddy Grizzard
December 28th, 2011
5:47 pm
“I don’t know if I’d trade JJ & Al for Dwight.” – Jump Shooter X
Ok here’s the thing. You need a superstar to win a championship. Joe Johnson is not a superstar, but he makes superstar money. If you have the opportunity to trade two non-superstars for one superstar, you do it. That gets you out from under Joe’s contract and frees up money to bring in somebody like Deron Williams who obviously isn’t going to re-sign to play out his career on a lottery team in Brooklyn if they don’t land Dwight.
So Joe and Al for Dwight and Hedo. Then in the offseason you do a sign and trade with NJ sending them Marvin and Kirk for Deron. NJ is also going to want to get something in return for Deron after giving up so much to obtain him.
northcyde
December 28th, 2011
5:50 pm
And LOL @ people going “all in” with the Hawks, based on a blowout win vs Jersey . . and wouldn’t do a deal for Howard.
News flash . . we were SUPPOSED to blow out Jersey, especially when Lopez went down. The shocker would’ve been if the Hawks were battling down to the wire with that Nets team. Had we lost that game, it would be Armageddon here after just Game 1.
Hawks look great last night. Give them props on that. But please . . don’t go overboard.
northcyde
December 28th, 2011
5:52 pm
Howard = Horford . . . in those trade scenarios. Ya’ll know what I meant. Just had Howard on the brain.
northcyde
December 28th, 2011
5:58 pm
And I don’t know why MC thinks that Josh Smith wasn’t the one being dangled to Orlando, seeing that he was the one allegedly being dangled all summer . . and he’s the one guy whose contract is up in two years,significantly raising his trade value.
That “playing with Josh” angle has been well overblown by the fans, in my opinion. If Howard wanted to play with Smith so bad, why wasn’t ATL on Howard’s “where I want to play” list?
mountain_jim
December 28th, 2011
6:00 pm
agree northcyde
JaeEvolution
December 28th, 2011
6:05 pm
No trade for Howard would involve Smith. Can you imagine Smith and Howard in the frontcourt together? A 3-time DPOY and another yearly candidate + a ballstopper and lockdown defender in Teague + whoever else is left? Teams would have to beat us with jumpshots because they aren’t getting ANYTHING in this painted area…
northcyde
December 28th, 2011
6:10 pm
Why wouldn’t any trade involve Smith? And if Gearon/Sund rejected a trade because they would have to give up Josh Smith, they need to resign RIGHT NOW.
Like I said . . . if Dwight wanted to play with Smith like some of you think he does, why wasn’t ATL on his list? Ownership be damned, Howard coming to ATL could change everything here. And it’s not like the ownership wouldn’t give Howard all the money he wanted, once it was time to re-negotiate.
Any combination would be an upgrade to the Hawks.
Teague – Johnson – Howard
Teague – Smith – Howard
Teague – Horford – Howard
Any 3 of those combinations is an improvement over what we currently have. You fill in the rest with role players that do their job.
i_am_soulstar
December 28th, 2011
6:15 pm
T-Mac to Howard: Be Careful What You Wish For
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AlgqKAamsSz5BpW5qpvuqeC8vLYF?slug=aw-wojnarowski_tracy_mcgrady_dwight_howard_nba_122811
i_am_soulstar
December 28th, 2011
6:25 pm
Zaza’s a game time decision (per MC on twitter)
drmaryb.[*_*].
December 28th, 2011
6:27 pm
Why?
Well then, why didn’t we make a run @ Tyson Chandler, seeing as how he was that “over the hump” player for Dallas last season?
Thing is Dallas just let him walk, for no salaries in return. The Hawks would have had to clear cap space with an amnesty clause on either Marvin or Kirk + find 6M extra dollars to meet Tyson’s salary demand. He cost NY Billups @ 14M.
Oh well, like Ken Strickland has admonished us dreamers – get over it! We going to war with what we got so, let’s go!
Steven A.
December 28th, 2011
6:29 pm
2 Best shot blockers remaining are Alexis Ajinca and Francisco Elson.
Please sign one for the 2nd unit, Need mor defense for BIG teams.
MattP
December 28th, 2011
6:29 pm
#Hawks C Zaza Pachulia (shoulder) game-time decision vs. #Wizards
That is the reason we wanted/need another big
coloradofalconsfan
December 28th, 2011
6:31 pm
Don’t Need Howard After Last Night wrote “This team will play in first ECF since 1988. Mark it down!”
Bro, you might wanna get your facts straight before you ‘mark it down’. The Hawks didn’t make the Eastern Conference Finals in 1988. They lost to Boston in Conference Semifinals.
The Hawks, in fact, have never even been in the ECF. The Last time they were in a Conf Finals, they were in the West (1970) when they were swept by the eventual champs, the Los Angeles Lakers.
This team will play in first ECF since 1988. Mark it down!
drmaryb.[*_*].
December 28th, 2011
6:41 pm
Gator Bite!
Great topic MC! Just something different to talk about and it never hurts to have dreams – right? LOL
Jay
December 28th, 2011
6:42 pm
Get Howard, no matter the cost.
donte080
December 28th, 2011
6:43 pm
LOL VIVA…
New Jersey was a “tired team”? After only one freaking game? Come on, Man!
drmaryb.[*_*].
December 28th, 2011
6:47 pm
Try!
Sign me up with northside all day long. You do the deal and try to win it now. You keep trading to get your pieces to mAke a run while you got D12 here.
No guts – No glory.
i_am_soulstar
December 28th, 2011
6:50 pm
Zaza’s playing (per MC on twitter)
Melvin
December 28th, 2011
6:56 pm
Watching the Pacers/Raptors game. Indy have some nice players but they don’t have chemistry together. And Paul George is going to be a beast. I can see them trading Granger for a SG and move George to SF. George actually grew 2 inches over the summer. He’s 6′10 playing SG.
Melvin
December 28th, 2011
7:01 pm
Northcyde,
There were reports that mention Josh on Dwight’s list of players he wanted along with Big Baby. So you can’t totally dismiss him not wanting to come to the Hawks b/c of the ASG.
Melvin
December 28th, 2011
7:03 pm
Don’t want any parts of Bynum. Too immature and unreliable..
Pastor Sanford
December 28th, 2011
7:08 pm
Hawks should not trade Al Horford unless they get a long term commitment from
Dwight Howard. I think it would be a good move if Dwight could come on a long term contract. Al Horford is too good of a player to lose on a gamble.
drmaryb.[*_*].
December 28th, 2011
7:16 pm
Warrior!
Zaza playing? That guy is tuff warrior. Hopefully, we see some Ivan Johnson too. The main thing I look for is defensive tenacity and energy from the starters and bench.
doc
December 28th, 2011
7:16 pm
i wonder if not so casual is really here
if so stand up and wave towards 109 cause not that many here yet
is manny t in the stadium? hollar at me close to your old seats bro
go hawks
Laughing out Loud
December 28th, 2011
7:18 pm
“Besides, Dwight Howard is a crybaby!!” Then he could join his buddy Josh in the Atl Nursery!
Michael Cunningham
December 28th, 2011
7:20 pm
new blog posted. shutting down this thread.
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