Atlanta Hawks: Hawks waive Sy, Wanamaker, Rolle (Update: Benson also released)

The Hawks waived forward Magnum Rolle and guards Pape Sy and Brad Wanamaker today. More cuts are coming later today: The roster now stands at 16, one more than the maximum, and it’s possible Atlanta will carry the minimum 13 players for the regular season.

UPDATE: The Hawks waived center Keith Benson, their only draft pick in June. The team plans to carry 15 on the roster to start the season. There are four players on the roster with non-guaranteed deals: Ivan Johnson, Jannero Pargo, Donald Sloan, and Jerry Stackhouse.

The decisions on Rolle and Wanamaker were not unexpected but the Hawks gave up on Sy after investing in him as a long-term prospect. Coach Larry Drew said Sy’s inability to develop as a point guard played a part in the decision.

“We, the coaches and the management, came to an agreement that he’s been a little bit more effective off the ball than at the point,” Drew said. “With that and the acquisition of Willie Green and [having] a number of other guys that are veterans that can play two, he became expendable. We were hoping he would mature and develop but he just seemed more comfortable at that two-guard spot. With that, we made the decision to go in a different direction.”

Sy, a native of France, made his way to the NBA as a a rare unknown prospect–prominent Web sites that track numerous draft-eligible players had no file on Sy before Atlanta selected him in the second of the 2010 draft. Sy had paid his own way to work out for the Hawks, the only team to grant him an audience, and impressed Drew.

The Hawks paid about $125,000 to buy out Sy’s French contract last year and paid him $473,604 in salary in 2010-11. He played a total of 21 minutes for the Hawks last season and spent 23 games with Atlanta’s D-League affiliate.

Sy had a good training camp but Atlanta’s payroll is pushing against the luxury-tax line, leaving little room for carrying players who can’t help the team now. The Hawks added guards Green and Pargo during training camp.

“It was a really tough decision,” Drew said. “There were a lot of things we liked about Pape.”

When the Hawks drafted Benson, they said he was a long-term prospect because he needed to add bulk and strength. But Benson, like Sy, appears to be a victim of Atlanta’s focus on veterans at the expense of carrying prospects who need time to develop. Benson was released by a club team in Italy during the lockout.

Rolle signed with the Hawks near the end of last season and re-joined the team following a stint in South Korea. He came into camp out of shape after he said a right foot injury hampered him from maintaining his conditioning.

Wanamaker, a rookie free agent out of the University of Pittsburgh, struggled during last night’s exhibition victory against Charlotte.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

771 comments Add your comment

Smith.Leuer.Bogut

December 23rd, 2011
1:33 pm

Ken I’m sorry you’re being irrational and/or delusional.

Are you really saying our Hawks outside of Horford are anywhere remotely CLOSE to as bad as Bogut’s current or past supporting casts?

After Horford: Joe JOhnson, Josh Smith, Marvin Williams, Jeff Teague, Hinrich, Bibby,
After Bogut: ???

No comparison really.

Hawks give Horford + picks for a linuep of Bogut + Leuer + Smith + Joe + Jeff and an eye on playoffs with no hesitation.

J.J.M.

December 23rd, 2011
1:33 pm

wow…How you give up that fast and dont even give the kid minutes

Huh

December 23rd, 2011
1:34 pm

Grrrr

December 23rd, 2011
1:34 pm

Keep Ivan! #OccupyThePaint

Mike

December 23rd, 2011
1:34 pm

It looks like another wasted pick by Hawks on Sy, oh well time to move on, but I wonder who is the next two to be cut? Any takers

Smith.Leuer.Bogut

December 23rd, 2011
1:34 pm

lol if Sy becomes a premier SG. Reminds me of Ginobili

BoneKollector

December 23rd, 2011
1:34 pm

KEEP IVAN JOHNSON!!!!!

IF HE GETS CUT WE ARE GONNA RIOT

YO YO YO

December 23rd, 2011
1:36 pm

Ban this Smith.Leuer.Bogut clown, please.

Mike

December 23rd, 2011
1:37 pm

@Smith.Leuer.Bogut

Dude, stop it. What is so special about those two (Bogut and Leuer) that you keep making post about that (Where u the one was talking about that trade with Houston a long time ago)

If Al is going to get moved, it is going to be for a star like D12 and nothing else. Besides we got Sund and he isnt going ove the Luxury Tax period.

MattP

December 23rd, 2011
1:38 pm

I see Stack and Sloan or Pargo. More then likely Sloan because Pargo looked decent on defense.

Slimjr

December 23rd, 2011
1:40 pm

Hey Pape Sy for 200.00 hr I can teach you how to shoot a jumpshot. You wanna stick, your going to need my jumpshot! lol

Truth B. Known

December 23rd, 2011
1:40 pm

Mike I think it was stupid to offer Tmac a guarantee. He looks like he has a room a macdonalds and is slower than Ronald. Id take Ivan over Tmac any day.!

Rev in Tampa

December 23rd, 2011
1:41 pm

MC, you closed that last thread down just in time. SOMEONE is off THEIR meds and is close to shutting down the blog again like last year. (Yes I purposely mixed the singular and the plural to represent the multiple personalities).

i_am_soulstar

December 23rd, 2011
1:41 pm

lol @ #Occupythepaint

Ivan Johnson earned his roster spot last night.

But I wouldn’t be surprised that a guy did well in preseason and got cut because the team was stacked in that position. Stranger things have happened.

Slimjr

December 23rd, 2011
1:42 pm

Without the iso trade this team does not make the playoffs the last four years..

These bigs we have have been along for the ride including All NBA……real talk..I’m just saying..

Huh

December 23rd, 2011
1:43 pm

“and is close to shutting down the blog again like last year.”

When was it shut down last yr?

MattP

December 23rd, 2011
1:43 pm

I agree with Truth, Tmac looked really worthless out there.

Rev in Tampa

December 23rd, 2011
1:46 pm

I guess having a shooting guard that can’t shoot is a bad idea. Too bad Sy couldn’t develop into more of a point guard. He is overflowing with athletic giftedness.

Slimjr

December 23rd, 2011
1:47 pm

Shut it down.. Same script……Yawn…..

Truth B. Known

December 23rd, 2011
1:48 pm

Slimjr, Can you pull of that DeAndre Jordan trade?

Greg

December 23rd, 2011
1:49 pm

A concentrated season would seem to make carrying the minimum # of players penny-wise and productivity-foolish… our guys are going to hit a wall if Drew is forced to play our guys substantial minutes.

Ken Strickland

December 23rd, 2011
1:50 pm

SMITH.LEUER.BOGAT-I’m far, far more interested in discussing real Hawks basketball, ratjer than your delusional fantasy approach to the Hawks. Horford is our starting center, like him or not, and Bogat is the Bucks starting center. And no matter how much of a MAN CRUSH you might have on Bogat, or how badly you want him to become a Hawk, IT AINT GOING TO HAPPEN, OK., so give it a rest.

UGA

December 23rd, 2011
1:50 pm

Keep Johnson, Benson and Stack……….when Hinrich returns, cut another. Simple

Slimjr

December 23rd, 2011
1:51 pm

No but I bet Blogman or Ra’mon could…LOL!

Mike

December 23rd, 2011
1:54 pm

I have to agreed about what Ken says and besides the only person right now I would trade Al Horford for is Dwight Howard (with Lopez hurting his foot, Magic have to look for other trading partners) and that is it.

mykhalc

December 23rd, 2011
1:58 pm

from the beginnin’ i said TMac was just lookin’ for a meal and the Hawks rolled him up to the table. tho i haven’t seen any of the exhibition games i’m not even surprised TMac looks as bad and indifferent as he does. he’s just doin’ his Shaq fade-to-black routine. at least if the Hawks woulda fed Shaq he woulda brought a BIG body with him. what does TMac bring???…fork, knife, and a ‘call-it-a-career’ game…PERIOD!!!

Truth B. Known

December 23rd, 2011
2:00 pm

Melvin

December 23rd, 2011
2:00 pm

Wow,I’m shock they cut Sy. Especially after paying a buyout for him. Now, how valuable was that 2nd round pick they sold last year. They could have use that pick to develop another player.

Jerri Glanville

December 23rd, 2011
2:02 pm

Amnesty Marvin Williams, or is it too late? Mickael Pietrus would be the ideal back-up 2 and 3.
Trade Zsa Zsa and Al Horford ASAP.

Ra'mon

December 23rd, 2011
2:04 pm

Mike, I would trade Horford for Gasol.

Ra'mon

December 23rd, 2011
2:06 pm

I wouldn’t trade Horford for Jordan. He’s too one dimensional.

Truth B. Known

December 23rd, 2011
2:06 pm

Co-sign Ra’mon

MattP

December 23rd, 2011
2:07 pm

Amnesty Marvin would solve the problem here but that is what they are saving for Johnson. Funny how they give him the massive contract then like a year later they are saving the amnesty for him.

Mike

December 23rd, 2011
2:07 pm

@Truth B. Known

For him, maybe but with his new contact, Nope. Jordan is a good center but what else LAC pieces that we need since we will be losing value in a one on one swap, plus do you think that ASG would go over the limit for a player like him? He is a good player but we need a star here.

Herman Cain

December 23rd, 2011
2:08 pm

Co-sign Ra’mon on the Gasol but Id trade him for DeAndre too.

Paddy

December 23rd, 2011
2:08 pm

Looks like this team is going to miss the playoffs!

Melvin

December 23rd, 2011
2:08 pm

They may as well cut Sloan too. Nothing special to him.

Mike

December 23rd, 2011
2:09 pm

@Ra’mon

which Gasol, if younger one then Yes, if older one is No!

Fundamentals

December 23rd, 2011
2:10 pm

Here’s our depth chart

PG – Teague, Pargo, Sloan
SG – Johnson, Green, Hinrich (IR)
SF – Marvin, Tmac, I Johnson
PF – Smith, VladRad
C – Horford, ZaZa, Collins, Benson

I see Stack and Sloan departing. Sloan most likely after Hinrich returns. Stack should be a coach.

I can see why Sy was cut. He’s definitely a raw energy guy we honestly could’ve used, but right now we need honed point guard skills and “shotmakers”! We can afford to hold onto Benson so our draft scouts don’t look anymore stupid than usual…or do they?

Still not sold on Pargo, Green or Sloan myself. I know we’re cheap, but aren’t there any FA guards who’d take the minimum who actually contributed last year on their team?

Ivan may be THE GREAT or THE TERRIBLE, just depends on whether a chance in the NBA and the salary can convince him to settle down and become a tremendous role player. The opportunity is there, maybe it won’t end with us or him giving each other the finger?

Hue B Brown

December 23rd, 2011
2:12 pm

Best Shot Blocker on your roster is a 6″8″ small forward? No post game on the team anywhere.
Huge problems ahead……..

Ra'mon

December 23rd, 2011
2:13 pm

Mike, P. Gasol averages 19 and 10 with 1.6 blocks per game. AND he shoots 5 free throws a game. The Hawks would be better on defense and offense with Gasol. Also, Gasol is only 31 years. And he played in all 82 games last season, so he’s healthy. 4-5 more seasons of 18-10 is quite possible, because he won’t get shorter, and he relies on skills more than athleticism.

wut

December 23rd, 2011
2:14 pm

I dont’ see how Benson makes it because he won’t get any playing time with the roster we have. Ivan on the other hand can play the 3 or 4 and can score. Benson’s role can be filled by Collins and/or Zaza.

JSS

December 23rd, 2011
2:14 pm

Scratching my head why they kept trying to make Pape Sy a point guard. Still more puzzling is that they are again making this team 2 and 3 heavy in a bad sort of way (not really players who elevate either unit)… They continue to show an aversion to working with the D-League option to actually develop players… I told folks that the new CBA was going to punish poor decision makers… Here’s living proof…

Hue B Brown

December 23rd, 2011
2:15 pm

Benson should start at the “5″ position. He’s already a better shot blocker than Al Horford.

Fundamentals

December 23rd, 2011
2:15 pm

Mark Gasol would’ve been a nice addition to solve our center woes.

Josh Smith isn’t such a liability at SF if he stays in the post. It’s obvious we don’t have a PF or C who lives in the post so Smith can get inside and exploit mismatches with his physical gifts. For Josh to really thrive in the SF role we need Joe, VladRad, Hinrich, Pargo & Green to get their shots going on the perimeter.

With that said I’m dissappointed that Pargo and Green fill those niches since they’ve never proven themselves to be good shooters or even a 3 pt threat. We deserved more.

Fundamentals

December 23rd, 2011
2:18 pm

Face it folks the Atlanta Hawks Organization has proven over it’s past 25 years that it can’t:

DRAFT,
EVALUATE TALENT,
or DEVELOP PLAYERS

Fundamentals

December 23rd, 2011
2:20 pm

If we cut Ivan can he drop some of his “physicality” and “mentality” on our team before he departs?

We need that fire and energy!

Hue B Brown

December 23rd, 2011
2:20 pm

If Larry Drew was “SMART” he would bench Marvin and move AL to the 4 postion fulltime!!!!!

YO YO YO

December 23rd, 2011
2:22 pm

Too muh worrying. Didn’t yall hear/read Gearon? He said this is the make or break year. Which means, if they don’t get it done, EVERYONE is gone.

So say goodbye to Smith, Horford, Williams, Hinrich, Drew, Sund, Zaza, basically everyone besides Teague is getting traded or amnestied after this season if they fall short. OUT THE DOOR.

MattP

December 23rd, 2011
2:24 pm

“If Larry Drew was “SMART” he would bench Marvin and move AL to the 4 postion fulltime!!!!!”

Who would play Center then? With this all we would have is Zaza and Collins. Zaza is ok, but Collins can’t do anything besides annoy Howard.