Atlanta Hawks: Hawks waive Sy, Wanamaker, Rolle (Update: Benson also released)

The Hawks waived forward Magnum Rolle and guards Pape Sy and Brad Wanamaker today. More cuts are coming later today: The roster now stands at 16, one more than the maximum, and it’s possible Atlanta will carry the minimum 13 players for the regular season.

UPDATE: The Hawks waived center Keith Benson, their only draft pick in June. The team plans to carry 15 on the roster to start the season. There are four players on the roster with non-guaranteed deals: Ivan Johnson, Jannero Pargo, Donald Sloan, and Jerry Stackhouse.

The decisions on Rolle and Wanamaker were not unexpected but the Hawks gave up on Sy after investing in him as a long-term prospect. Coach Larry Drew said Sy’s inability to develop as a point guard played a part in the decision.

“We, the coaches and the management, came to an agreement that he’s been a little bit more effective off the ball than at the point,” Drew said. “With that and the acquisition of Willie Green and [having] a number of other guys that are veterans that can play two, he became expendable. We were hoping he would mature and develop but he just seemed more comfortable at that two-guard spot. With that, we made the decision to go in a different direction.”

Sy, a native of France, made his way to the NBA as a a rare unknown prospect–prominent Web sites that track numerous draft-eligible players had no file on Sy before Atlanta selected him in the second of the 2010 draft. Sy had paid his own way to work out for the Hawks, the only team to grant him an audience, and impressed Drew.

The Hawks paid about $125,000 to buy out Sy’s French contract last year and paid him $473,604 in salary in 2010-11. He played a total of 21 minutes for the Hawks last season and spent 23 games with Atlanta’s D-League affiliate.

Sy had a good training camp but Atlanta’s payroll is pushing against the luxury-tax line, leaving little room for carrying players who can’t help the team now. The Hawks added guards Green and Pargo during training camp.

“It was a really tough decision,” Drew said. “There were a lot of things we liked about Pape.”

When the Hawks drafted Benson, they said he was a long-term prospect because he needed to add bulk and strength. But Benson, like Sy, appears to be a victim of Atlanta’s focus on veterans at the expense of carrying prospects who need time to develop. Benson was released by a club team in Italy during the lockout.

Rolle signed with the Hawks near the end of last season and re-joined the team following a stint in South Korea. He came into camp out of shape after he said a right foot injury hampered him from maintaining his conditioning.

Wanamaker, a rookie free agent out of the University of Pittsburgh, struggled during last night’s exhibition victory against Charlotte.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

771 comments Add your comment

Bluee Steel

December 26th, 2011
1:00 am

Jordan has 8 blks!

Bluee Steel

December 26th, 2011
1:03 am

Chanuncy still got it.

Smith.Leuer.Bogut

December 26th, 2011
1:11 am

*No he seems that way because his weight distribution is off. If he is 6′10 and 250 -255 why does he have longer skinnier legs than other guys that are 6′10 and

Moses’ legs looked like he was wearing stilts/splints. How many 6′10 players need Wilt Chamberlain knee braces?

Moses’ body does not look like that of a 6′10 player.

Furthermore I’m on gettyimages and here’s some players that OLD Moses is taller than
-Emeka Okafor via draftexpress
Shavlik Randolph
Chris Webber 6′10 via draftexpress
Elvin Hayes 6′9

He’s dwarfs 6′8 George Gervin and 6′8 Magic in a 1982 All Star Team Photo. And standing near the 7′1 Bill Cartright in a WC 1980 All Star Team Photo.

Moses is closer to 6′11. He was a monster.

Smith.Leuer.Bogut

December 26th, 2011
1:12 am

cold blooded clippers :/

who does ATL open against?

Smith.Leuer.Bogut

December 26th, 2011
1:17 am

wow clippers broke it wide open

Slimjr

December 26th, 2011
1:24 am

Just think CP3 could have been playing for us! 1st ballot Hall of Fame..Right now!….

He took over as usual and showed he is unguardable with those tricky handles and sharp shooting game! Awesome player he is!

Najeh Davenpoop

December 26th, 2011
1:26 am

Athletes across all sports are heavier on average for their respective heights than they were 20-30 years ago. Comparing heights and weights to players of previous generations is pointless.

vava74

December 26th, 2011
6:16 am

Najeh,

Exactomundo.

However:

Many players became much heavier than they should, rather than stronger and more polished, during the past few years accompanying the increased weight gain due to junk food in nowadays society.

Shaq may have been overpowering with his 290/310lbs frame but just like Howard now (using his superior strength conditioning), he was protected by the league back then.

The Shaq of the first years was a much better ball player – he went coast to coast for crying out loud – than the latest installments of the Lakers’ Shaq who simply put down his shoulder and rammed into the paint using his mass.

As for our guys:

I think Smoove will have a career year:

Although not as much as we all would have liked, Smoove has improved his game technically from year 1 until now.

With his weight back to optimal levels, he will be a constant danger at the rim.

I know that CHA is just a bunch of scrubs but Smoove was not finishing on second tries since his lift on the second/repetition jump was AWOL.

Now he can get up much much better again on second chance situations and that will give him at least 1.5/2 buckets per game more.

I see Smoove averaging 19/20ppg this season.

As for Al, he should strengthen his body in order to work better in the paint, but clearly he wont do it.

He may be a nice guy and a hard worker on the floor, but he is not interested in doing the dirty work.

I think psychologically he is damaged goods. He will never be back to his Boss Al self and he does not have neither the body, nor the game, nor even the disposition to be a really good PF.

He is a #4 option in a good team which has to have a rebounding and defensive presence at the C slot.

Al is the type of guy which, whilst not featured as an option on offense, will get (and knock down) open looks out of the rotation of the defenses.

If Teague does not replicate his CHI series and is able to get defenses to collapse and scramble and/or if Green does not pan out as a decent bench scorer (we will need to get 10ppg from him), Al may be the first victim of us not having another offensive threat beyond JJ with the departure of Jamal.

That would make last year an aberration and, sincerely, I think Al’s offensive numbers will dip 20% this year unless, by a miracle, he gets back into the paint and embraces being a mobile and athletic C.

vava74

December 26th, 2011
6:41 am

SteveW,

The issue is: big men, in general, are overpaid for their contribution.

Haywood is an half decent big man, BUT NOT at his current salary. NOT BY A MILE.

So any scenario which was push around in which Haywood was being called a good addition was preposterous taking in consideration his “market value” vs. “game value”.

Haywood was being hailed essential because he defends Howard well. Heck, Collins proved that you only need the vet’s minimum to cover for that contingency.

For me, it’s a bit mind blogging that Cuban did not use the amnesty clause on Haywood and did not tried to re-sign Chandler since it is probable that he would have stayed for a little bit less cash.

Steven A

December 26th, 2011
9:18 am

Move Radmonvich into the starting 4 spot. Josh is your starter at 3. That is the best you can do with your current roster LARRY DREW.

Smith.Leuer.Bogut

December 26th, 2011
9:51 am

“Move Radmonvich into the starting 4 spot. Josh is your starter at 3. That is the best you can do with your current roster LARRY DREW.”

Perimeter 4s ie Leuer or Anderson or Radmanovich can drift thru games. WIthout rebounds, posting up etc.

Yes we get size and shooting but you’d rather have Leuer. We have to make a trade.

Smith
Leuer > Radmanovic > Marvin
Bogut > Horford

before people say “Horford > Bogut” that depends on defining roles. IE for 12mpg Jason Collins will defend Bynum and Dwight better than Al at any point. Embarassing. IE Bogut is more likely to score on Ryan Anderson or Bass in the pivot.

If you want to build an offense around a guy who lacks length so he shoots contested 2 pointers all day, with no ability to get inside and control the game via FTA, be my guest.

Clippers got it done yesterday. Chauncey gets it done at the FTA Blake…

Slimjr

December 26th, 2011
10:17 am

“If you want to build an offense around a guy who lacks length so he shoots contested 2 pointers all day, with no ability to get inside and control the game via FTA,”

Interesting description of our #5?Hmmmmm…

vava74

December 26th, 2011
10:17 am

V-Rad is not starting material on any decent team.

Heck, he is only borderline useful on a decent rotation.

Anything above 10mpg for V-Rad is a bad omen on how the season will progress.

If we fulfilled our “potential” we would get:

1. An healthy and aggressive Teague giving us 12/2/5/2/0.75blk (and only 1.25TO);
2. JJ finding his groove and knocking down those open 3’s (at a .385 clip) whilst getting back to his 20/5/5/1stl self.
3. Smoove picking up where he left it against CHA, working like a human wrecking machine with 18.5/8.5/4/2/2.
4. Al realizing that he is not Dirk and not even Ryan Anderson and moving back inside to get us an honest 14/10/3/1/1.
5. Marvin showing himself as a lighter shade of grey and getting us a multi-dimensional but serviceable 11/7/2/1/1
6. McGrady not looking he is 600 years old and getting us 7/2.5/2.5 just like in DET
7. Green getting us his usual 8.5ppg with low TO’s off the bench
8. Zaza getting us something around 6 and 5
9. V-Rad supplying us with his standard .380/.400 marksmanship from 3 on limited minutes and getting us 4 and 2
10. Ivan Johnson getting us 2 five game suspensions, 22 techs, someone’s head placed in the locker room wall as a hunting trophy (and a whole lot more respect down low to go with it).
11. Pargo and Collins with quality spot minutes
12. A fresh and fully recovered Hinrich for the playoff run to help us to an upset of both the Bulls and the Heat in 2 grueling 7 game series.

:-D man I am optimistic today! Can’t wait for tomorrow!

Actually

December 26th, 2011
10:21 am

doc,

“geez, he really is about in touch as the fools in dc and he doesnt get it. ”

Gearon = Clueless 1%er

LOL, 72% of our country say tax the very rich, and it falls on deaf ears in Wash., and we all know why.

Slimjr

December 26th, 2011
10:23 am

All “set shot” would be so much more effective in the playoffs if said dude had handles and his moves were fluid! Just too dang stiff and mechanical. His game looks like a throw back to half a century ago…..See old game film on youtube…1940-1950 era…Its got that museum feel….

Slimjr

December 26th, 2011
10:31 am

Vava, I expect improvement everywhere except @ the 5..Lets hope 1-4 gets it done and carry the 5 spot..

Dukester

December 26th, 2011
10:34 am

@Vava your 12 step plan is a must have. We might can beat some teams if theyall hit those marks.

Just Joe

December 26th, 2011
10:40 am

Why no improvement at the five? Dude’s improved every year in the league and is only 25. Let me guess, after four years, the league has “figured him out”. That’s a slow league if it takes four years to scout a player. Josh will be better, Al will feed off that energy, Al will be better. This team lives and dies with it’s emotional leader, Josh Smith.

doc

December 26th, 2011
11:01 am

in all the talk among fans, players and ld there is something very glaring. there is a huge vacuum when it comes to the expectations t mac brings. this is the same guys a few weeks ago got so excited theyfell to their knees at the news as it was the second coming. glaringly it was our BIG move of the off season. instead of him being part of the formula for success his activities of late have made him the forgotten man and that is huge from the perspective of what his signing was supposed to be.

t mac may be one more example of wasted dollars on a relic instead of manning up and going out and getting someone other than a fossil to make up for the differences in jc’s production we have lost. yes, jc was a liability on defense but for all the glory given bibby he was just as much if not more over his declining years and we continued to rise above it. folks, i dont know where the scoring is coming from nor see the defensive stalwart hired to make up the difference for the loss of offense if that is the direction headed.

it is a shame we didnt sign a shane battier instead of a t mac and we never heard, we were interested in him or aggressive enough to get him proving to him and the fan base these guys were really serious. at some point they have to make a committment and not put such false expectations that if it looks like we can do it we will spend. now is the time fools. did you ever hear one of the real contenders say something as foolish as that, ever?

guys, if you have spent money foolishly then you have to make up the difference and not expect fans to give you a pass nor come to your aide. he runs this business like a bank looking for a bail out along the way rather than taking responsibility for their mistakes and start working better.

Dukester

December 26th, 2011
11:03 am

I just looked at Benson’s youtube video. The seems like if nothing else he would contend shots in the paint whats with this management team that doesnt want interior defense?

vava74

December 26th, 2011
11:18 am

Just Joe

December 26th, 2011
10:40 am

I watch game on league pass, so I get to see loads of games called by the opposing team’s TV analysts.

BY THE END OF THE SEASON, “analysts” were still 100% caught off guard and admired that Horford hit the midrange jumpshots at the clip he did.

They had NO IDEA and the opposing team’s coaches neither since they consistently left him open.

This year, it’s different. It should be like the playoffs and if you look at Al’s performance against CHA (and watched the games) it was pretty evident that they closing on him now like they never did in the past.

vava74

December 26th, 2011
11:20 am

doc,

Battier would NEVER sign with the Hawks unless we OVERPAID him by a MILE.

Also, to be perfectly frank, I think this will be the year in which his production and effectiveness will drop substantially.

Obviously, that does not mean that I am on board with your commentaries about T-Mac. He looks completely washed up and no longer able to contribute with anything.

brigadierjerry

December 26th, 2011
11:20 am

Interesting that I read a few years ago when Doc Rivers asked Paul Pierce if you thought you was a good shooter. Pierce said yes and doc responded well why did you shoot only 45% last year. That got into Paul Pierce head and he became a better player and was in route to the Celtics winning the title that year.

Now I do not know what LD says to his players but I would love for him to come out to the media and state that he expects his star player or big man to meet certain expectations from him.

Also, in regards to weight and fitness obviously players are much better trained and in better shape than years ago skillset was better years ago. Bird’s training I am sure back then was going from Miller Lite beers to Schafer beers but he was a very skilled player

Not So Casual Observer

December 26th, 2011
11:32 am

Actually,

So Gearon, a self-made man, is clueless and the geniuses spending their time on this blog with “12 Step Plans” are in reality the real deal? Righttttt!

The truth shines through in your “LOL, 72% of our country say tax the very rich, and it falls on deaf ears in Wash., and we all know why.” Are you aware this is not a democracy but a Constitutional Republic – a nation of laws. How about the 72% go out and create jobs or something of value rather than look to the fictional 1% to take care of them by giving up the money they earned at the point of a gun?

I will answer for you. Because, just like most on this blog, the 72% live in a dream land where the big screen TV is a “right”, Iphones are a “right”, healthcare is a “right”, 20″ rims are a “right” – you do not have to EARN these things, you have a “right” to them.

Michael Gearon and his business partners are spending the money, not you Actually, and like all of the teams in the NBA except the Dallas Mavericks last year, the Hawks failed to win the championship. Do the Hawks owners wish they had Chris Paul rather than Marvin Williams? I am sure they do.

The New Orleans Hornets are for sale but there are no takers. Gee, according to this blog there is nothing much to operating an NBA franchise, you just trade a player you do not want for a player on another team. Simple enough to give the Magic our starting center for theirs and throw in Marvin and Pape Sy. Why would the Magic turn that down and why has there not been a buyer for the Hornets?

The NBA financial model is broken and the recent lockout did very little to address the issues. Just like the “72%” you reference, the NBA players believe the league and the money will always be there. Ask the pilots who retired from Delta how their pensions are working out since the Delta bankruptcy, or any of the other retirees from companies who lost their entire retirement. One NBA player asked, “Why do the owners need to make money?” – must be one of the 72%!

How about this proposal Actually? Every citizen of this country will be required to pay a $1.50 tax on every dollar spent in a calendar year that exceeds their income. So, when you use a credit card but do not pay the entire balance, you pay the federal government $1.50 for the balance on the card at year end since you obviously spent more than you made. Same is true for any increase in personal debt over the beginning of the year. Take out a $100,000 mortgage to buy a house – pay $150,000 to the government! You do not have the money to pay the tax? No problem, the league (er, government) will come take your house and you still owe the $100,000 mortgage. Seems fair to me.

Not So Casual Observer

December 26th, 2011
11:38 am

Larry Bird ran the arena steps at 2 in the afternoon on the day of GAMES. Bird was dedicated to fitness and every physical aspect of the game because he was not as athletic as many players and he overcame that lack of athleticism with effort.

How many Hawks have drastically changed their bodies for the better in an off season? Josh Smith, this year, is the only one who comes immediately to mind.

Hawks Blog Legend Worldwide Clyde

December 26th, 2011
12:01 pm

Not So Casual Observer some players can’t run the steps at 2 before the game because they were in the club the night before. Folks ain’t dedicated no more.

doc

December 26th, 2011
12:02 pm

not so, very funny or very angry. most folks are not exactly saying that the basg are not spending but spending foolishly and expecting fans to show up to support them as their entitlement since you speak of the others entitlements to iphone for example. i own both as a season ticket holder and an iphone for my business.

in case you missed the obvious, the fans and umm, the bad boy journalist jeff decried as the one who has destroyed their reps universally, (you saw that right and wasnt it a joke?) also take them to task for their blatant lies to the community and its fan base on, say, how the thrasher deal came down for instance. THEY ruined their brand, not the fans. i said just that a long time ago and they seem to be realizing it now, way too late to have an impact on the fan base unless, somehow, this team comes together as flawed as it is and rallies the town around it. this would be in spite of gearon;s and his cronies antics. no question a blind squirrel can find an acorn and in this case it will be just that with rick sund and ld being the leaders. now, not so answer me this, and are you a season ticket holder for the entertainment and maybe come late to your seat that embarrasses all of us true fans on national tv or do you as a fan see it or are you blind as well to all the issues?

Grandmaster JeJe

December 26th, 2011
12:05 pm

SMH@ Tim Tucker’s article. Same BS from the Q and A.

We have the NINTH highest payroll now. We are SIX MILLION AWAY FROM BEING THE FIFTH HIGHEST. WHERE DOES THIS OWNER GET HIS NUMBERS FROM?

Fundamentals

December 26th, 2011
12:06 pm

Josh & Collins this year.

Grandmaster JeJe

December 26th, 2011
12:06 pm

I know it is obligatory for us to lose to NJN DET and CHA every year at least once, but can we PLEASE go to New Jersey and destroy this awful team tomorrow? Only thing I am worried about is Humphries destroying our front line on the glass

Grandmaster JeJe

December 26th, 2011
12:09 pm

We should win by 20 tomorrow.

NJN has 4 Williams’ on its team. lmao

vava74

December 26th, 2011
12:10 pm

Not So Casual Observer
December 26th, 2011
11:32 am

You seem a bit casual, for a not so casual observer.

You mix apples and oranges and then call it a pie:

1. There is no plan on my 12 point e-mail, simply a wish list as fan which someone liked and called “12 point plan”.

2. That person “dukester” is not the same that said anything about the 72%.

3. Regardless of Gearon Jr. success as business man, it is unquestionable that the Hawks have not been properly managed AND that has nothing to do with going into luxury tax or not.

That assessment can be made FAIRLY by any fan.

Just at the executive level (GM and Head-Coach) you can see that Gearon’s current bet is to cut his losses and that, from a STRICTLY BUSINESS perspective, that may not even be the best strategy to make the Hawks successful on the court, much less appealing to a buyer.

The fact that Gearon knows about setting up a cell phone antenna business does not mean he knows how to run a bball franchise.

4. Also, just as a gentle reminder, this is a fan blog which attracts people from all sorts (ages, locations, education levels, etc), so there is no need for you to be so amped up with loose opinions.

5. Now: as a casual observer from outside the USA, I would like to invite you to be a little bit more understanding of other people’s yearnings.

Not everyone – at all – that calls for more taxes on the people that have more means are leeches, as you make it sound like it.

Ken Strickland

December 26th, 2011
12:33 pm

Even if TMac is washed up, he’s certainly no more washed up than Bibby was his last 2yr here. Even now, TMac is quicker, faster, mover versatile, a better ball handler, rebounder, penetrator, defender, and possibly passer. Radmanovic isn’t the scorer Jamal is, but he’s just as effective as a long range shooter. Like BIG RAY said, he’s intelligent, and he has the ability to get to the basket and the FT line when forced off his spot. He won’t produce the amount of instant OFF that Jamal produced, but what he produces will be with more consistency and less streakiness.

And from what I’ve seen so far, he’ll put forth more effort on DEF than Jamal ever would. He’ll also help with rebounding, which we definitely need. Jamal’s production won’t be replaced by any one player, but by maybe to or more. Jamal scored 14.5PPG and took a high volumet of shots to get it done. TMac and Radmanovic together could come close enough to his PPG average, and contribute even more in the areas of rebounding and DEF, especially interior DEF.

brigadierjerry

December 26th, 2011
12:34 pm

If you want to view past nba games from yesterday or live feeds of sports

http://www.wiziwig.tv/competition.php?part=sports&discipline=basketball

brigadierjerry

December 26th, 2011
12:40 pm

Larry Bird did work out and was very dedicated but he was a very skilled player who didnt rely on athleticism I think that is a different than a lot of todays players. Also one of the reasons a lot of the older players now in the NBA have been able to play for a long time now such at Pierce, Nash, Hill, Kidd, etc and even Joe Johnson as well. I expect the Hawks to get out of the gate pretty fast. The test will be the Bulls and Heat games that will be a good barometer of the team

hawks_4_life

December 26th, 2011
12:56 pm

IM DRIVING TO NJ TO GO TO THE GAME TOMORROW….ANYONE ELSE GOING?

Scratch and Smell

December 26th, 2011
1:26 pm

For those of you who are barred from Magic City but like to see a nice touch every now and then here’s a picture of Al Horford’s New wife.

http://www.videobash.com/photo_show/amelia-vega-6163

Slimjr

December 26th, 2011
1:46 pm

I wish more women would wear that to the GYM!!!!!!!!

Rod from College Park

December 26th, 2011
2:00 pm

“So double team JJ, and double team Josh ,and the hawks are toast. Nobody else can take over a game and beat you. Just contain those two and you win.

Defense? What Defense? Just Josh.”

These comments from Blue Steel explain the Hawks well. Jamal’s scoring by itself does not explain everything. Jamal could create his own shot, he commanded a double team, and he spread the floor. We only have one player who will command a double team now, and that’s Joe. We will not be able to score with the better teams in the league as constructed.

richbrave

December 26th, 2011
2:01 pm

Good luck to the HAWKS this season.

As for the WIZARDS, we-e-e-e-e-e’ve got TURIEF. Hot doggies!

Actually i think SHELVIN MACK may solve the back-up PG problem. He’s looked solid in the two x-games we’ve had.

CRAWFORD is a bit out of control at the moment. I think the WIZZIES think they’ve got a tiger by the tail where he’s concerned. Heh!

Looks like they’ll be running McGEE, BLATCHE, LEWIS, CRAWFORD, and WALL to start the season.

NICK YOUNG is on the way out of D.C.

SINGLETON may do some good down the road.

VESELY is hurt already. Improvement over YI if healthy. A wasted pick IMHO of course.

richbrave

December 26th, 2011
2:06 pm

doc:

Vava74’s comment on CARON’s effectiveness may be correct. He could take a big hit in the effecrive department this belated season.

Slimjr

December 26th, 2011
2:13 pm

@Rod we need a Moses Malone type at the 5 to balance things out….

Slimjr

December 26th, 2011
2:16 pm

@Rod did you see how the Clippers 1 and 5 dominate that game last night? A thing of beauty!

Where do they get these guys from?

December 26th, 2011
2:31 pm

“Even if TMac is washed up, he’s certainly no more washed up than Bibby was his last 2yr here. Even now, TMac is quicker, faster, mover versatile, a better ball handler, rebounder, penetrator, defender, and possibly passe”

Bibby is not a part of the team as was not last year. TMac role does not relate to any role Bibby vacated. If anything TMac would be (not happening) an offset for Jamal.

Want More idiocy?

“TMac is quicker, faster, mover versatile, a better ball handler, rebounder, penetrator, defender, and possibly passer.” LMAO

TMac is old, slow, regimented, an average ball handler, wont be able to penetrate much and will need help covering younger players.

Comparing TMac to another Dinosaur may make him seem faster in comparison to the other Dinosaur but help with the rest of the leagues, 2’s and 3’s.

TMac is antiquated.

Where do they get these guys from?

December 26th, 2011
2:34 pm

*but will need help with the rest of the leagues, 2’s and 3’s.

Sautee

December 26th, 2011
2:47 pm

Not So Casual,

It may be instructive for you to look at the greatest time of economic expansion in our lifetimes – the mid fifties to the mid sixties – and see exactly what the tax rates were on the wealthy then.

Hint: up to 91% on top earners, and 52% on profits of banks and corporations.

Funny that THAT was the time of our greatest economy. And you didn’t hear a single word about “punishing job creators for their success”.

Just something to chew on. I’m NOT saying we should go back there, but it WAS a fertile system then. Isn’t there somewhere in between?

doc

December 26th, 2011
2:59 pm

richie crawford is a loose cannon and folks here that were distressed over jc1 would be having gran mal seizures at some point during the season. the draft picks if made well will be the best of what you got out of the trade minus salary.

doc

December 26th, 2011
3:02 pm

yup sautee had some infra structure built during those days rather than decay we see now.

Blue Steel

December 26th, 2011
3:06 pm

Rod from College Park, the hawks are so obvious. We are slightly above average which makes us a good team, say… a B minus. Like every team we have 2 guys who can score, but every body else is about average. I understand that ” All Press Al” got a coach’s add on and press support, but how can I call a guy a weapon of mass destruction, who only averages 10 ppg and 7 rbs in 39 play off games?

Would you?

After JJ, then Josh, we have no real weapons, nothing for a coach to work with in terms of breaking down defenses. You can only disguise JJ or Josh so many ways. So the oppositions plans against us are easy to chart. Double JJ, put 1 and a rotate on Josh and force everyone else to beat you.

Our best bet is to over whelm with smothering defense, but of course you need willing participants for that.

northcyde

December 26th, 2011
3:15 pm

@ doc

Jordan Crawford is the type of player that you use in the same way that you use JR Smith. If he’s on, you give him major minutes. If he’s off, you sit him on the bench. Simple as that.

And that’s the way Jamal Crawford should’ve been used.

Jordan shouldn’t play more than 24 minutes for the Wiz a night if he’s still a hot and cold player. But he WILL help that team.

Having said that, the Wizards definitely got the best of that trade. They were able to trade a sizeable expiring contract, get our 2010 pick in Jordan, and our 2011 pick, which turned out to be defensive wiz Chris Singleton.

At least they have young talent that can potentially turn out to really help them in future years. Meanwhile, we get Hinrich for one year, and he’s probably gone this summer, leaving us for nothing in the future. Maybe the ASG surprises us, and trades Hinrich for a disgruntled, but very good 8 – 10 million player that can help us. Doubt it though.