Bobcats at Atlanta Hawks: Game thread
The Hawks signed guard Willie Green.
“You are talking about a guy who is a combo guard that’s a scorer, tough defender,”Larry Drew said. “He’s a guy that plays hard when he’s on the floor. He’s kind of had to do it the hard way therefore he has an appreciation for what he’s earned. I think he’s kind of a throwback. Kind of an old-school style player.”
Like Jannero Pargo, Green is more of a scorer than a playmaker. Green is the better shooter but, also like Pargo, most of his attempts are long 2s and he doesn’t draw many fouls or make many 3-pointers.
However, both players are quick, high-energy guys and Drew thinks they will help the Hawks play the new, aggressive defensive style he wants.
“You can’t play a high-energy defensive scheme if you don’t have the personnel to do it,” he said. “Both guys have played that way pretty much their whole careers. Jannero, when he was down in New Orleans and had his best years, he was very effective playing that way. Willie’s style is very similar. We’ve been putting a lot of emphasis in training camp on defense and certainly helps if you have guys who are already programmed to play that way.”
Green’s Synergy defensive numbers are lackluster, especially in isolation. He had slightly positive on-court, off-court defensive numbers for New Orleans last season, according to basketballvalue.com. His opponent PER at last season was about average, according to 82games.com.
Basically it looks as if the Hawks, after watching Jamal Crawford bolt for Portland, will have to try to win another way with their second unit.
“We’ve had to replace Jamal’s minutes and we’ve got to look in some type of way getting some real productivity from that position, whether it be scoring or defensively,” Drew said. “Me personally, I welcome a trade-off a guy who maybe won’t score as much as Jamal but a guy that can score and brings some defense and some toughness to that position.”
Notes
- Jeff Teague (ankle) is out. “It’s a mild ankle sprain,” Drew said. “For precautionary reasons we won’t have him playing today.” Donald Sloan starts in Teague’s place.
- Drew said there’s “still a chance” for Sloan, Brad Wanamaker and Pape Sy to make the roster even after Pargo and Green were added. “Hopefully they will take full advantage of the opportunity,” Drew said. “A good showing tonight would be beneficial for them.”
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David
December 22nd, 2011
7:30 pm
If I were Drew, I’d play the starters significant minutes tonight. Not necessarily their regular minutes, but we need to make sure that these guys have their game legs in time for the opener.
J.J.M.
December 22nd, 2011
7:40 pm
im hungry
northcyde
December 22nd, 2011
7:40 pm
Can’t see the Hawks broadcast, so I have to watch it on the internet and listen to the Bobcats broadcast.
I don’t mind though . . because that means more STEPHANIE READY !!!!
Boom Dizzle
December 22nd, 2011
7:41 pm
Looking forward to see the starters more minutes, see some of the bench guys (TMac) among others be more aggressive. Get ready for this opening….
Only good thing about watch the Bobcats broadcast is Stephanie Ready…….yesssssssssssssssirrrrrrrrrrr
J.J.M.
December 22nd, 2011
7:42 pm
smoooveeeeeeee
Boom Dizzle
December 22nd, 2011
7:42 pm
@Northcyde And she damn sho Ready……..
northcyde
December 22nd, 2011
7:43 pm
Looks like the rain/storms killed the crowd at Philips.
Sloan starts at PG . . . JJ with the immediate alley oop to Smith
JJ is our PG folks, no matter who “officially” mans the PG spot.
BoneKollector
December 22nd, 2011
7:43 pm
Good dunk
BoneKollector
December 22nd, 2011
7:43 pm
yea that tornado warning scared folks away
J.J.M.
December 22nd, 2011
7:44 pm
horford doesnt even try to block a shot
Melvin
December 22nd, 2011
7:44 pm
I actually Josh flash to the goal on Horford post up….
BoneKollector
December 22nd, 2011
7:44 pm
Marvin!!!!!!!!!
Boom Dizzle
December 22nd, 2011
7:46 pm
The defensive pressure looks a lot better from the starters….
Hawks have no TV game?
December 22nd, 2011
7:47 pm
so theres no tv game..
BoneKollector
December 22nd, 2011
7:47 pm
good drive 2 the basket
Melvin
December 22nd, 2011
7:48 pm
Nice dunk by Sloan
BoneKollector
December 22nd, 2011
7:48 pm
sloan wants a job
northcyde
December 22nd, 2011
7:49 pm
Amazing how much better players look when they play with “the core”, than with “the scrubs”. Sloan actually looks legit with “the core”.
northcyde
December 22nd, 2011
7:50 pm
Smith 4 – 4 FG . . . 3 dunks – 1 driving lay-up . . looking super quick tonight.
See Josh? . . . JUST LIVE IN THE PAINT.
Katie
December 22nd, 2011
7:50 pm
Anybody have a link to where I can watch the game online?
northcyde
December 22nd, 2011
7:51 pm
LOL .. and just as I say that . . . he fires up a 21 footer . . . (( clank ))
Boom Dizzle
December 22nd, 2011
7:51 pm
Sloan playing like he want that spot…..
Anna
December 22nd, 2011
7:52 pm
Where on the Internet can you watch the game? Please post a website link. Thanks. Go Hawks!
BoneKollector
December 22nd, 2011
7:52 pm
Exactly northcyde Josh needs to be like Blake Griffin just live in the paint
BoneKollector
December 22nd, 2011
7:52 pm
Try this Katie
http://www.rojadirecta.me/goto/locapasion-08.blogspot.com
Runner-
December 22nd, 2011
7:53 pm
T Mac gonna be a huge liability on defense when he’s in… Maggette hits the open 3 as T-Mac is nowhere to be found…
BoneKollector
December 22nd, 2011
7:53 pm
Katie & Anna I mean lol
J.J.M.
December 22nd, 2011
7:53 pm
josh is a beast when hes in that paint!
FreshFromAtl
December 22nd, 2011
7:53 pm
Sloan looked good with the starters…
northcyde
December 22nd, 2011
7:53 pm
@ anna
firstrowsports ( dot ) tv
Once on that site, click on the am. basketball tab
J.J.M.
December 22nd, 2011
7:55 pm
horofod=useless
Katie
December 22nd, 2011
7:55 pm
Thanks Bone Kollector!
Anna
December 22nd, 2011
7:55 pm
Thanks for the link. Awesome!
northcyde
December 22nd, 2011
7:58 pm
lol @ zaza . . . stop being such a thug.
Melvin
December 22nd, 2011
7:58 pm
Corey Maggette is an cold blooded assassin
FreshFromAtl
December 22nd, 2011
8:02 pm
No chemistry at all with the second unit. Maggette is having his way on offense with T-Mac…
BoneKollector
December 22nd, 2011
8:03 pm
If only we had a wizard that turned TMac into a prime Tmac
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
8:04 pm
Hey Stephanie! Lawd……………………………….
northcyde
December 22nd, 2011
8:04 pm
T-Mac with the step back air ball . . . not good.
Give us something T-Mac . . anything
BoneKollector
December 22nd, 2011
8:04 pm
Damn Damn Damn
David
December 22nd, 2011
8:04 pm
The bench lineup isn’t looking very good tonight.
Boom Dizzle
December 22nd, 2011
8:05 pm
Boy this second unit is rough to watch……geez…….
stizz
December 22nd, 2011
8:05 pm
This second unit is ugly.
BoneKollector
December 22nd, 2011
8:05 pm
At least Tmac got the rebound
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
8:06 pm
ZaZa amd All NBA offensive games!@#$%^&*
northcyde
December 22nd, 2011
8:06 pm
OK. . at least T-Mac has drawn 2 fouls and gotten to the line.
The Charlotte broadcast isn’t foolish. They’re either showing Stephanie on camera, or letting her comment throughout the game.
Stephanie = ratings
Melvin
December 22nd, 2011
8:07 pm
Air ZaZa…..LOL
FreshFromAtl
December 22nd, 2011
8:07 pm
Second unit starting to pick it up a bit….
BoneKollector
December 22nd, 2011
8:08 pm
Wat da fuuuuuu
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
8:08 pm
Elle Ducan has been benched for Stephanie Ready!!!! LOL
Melvin
December 22nd, 2011
8:09 pm
Biyambo has arms like inspector gadget….. they extend forever
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
8:10 pm
1st Six Hawks games are on the road? Ouch……
Melvin
December 22nd, 2011
8:10 pm
Comedown folks, the 2nd unit end the 1st qtr strong….
FreshFromAtl
December 22nd, 2011
8:13 pm
Observations after the 1st quarter:
- The first unit looks ready (Sloan played very well). Al, Josh, Marvin, Joe…you could probably throw any competent point guard in with them (outside of Mike Bibby of course) and they will play well.
- Second unit started off slow. Zaza was the only member from last year. Pargo, Radman, Stack, and T-Mac didn’t mesh well at first. Towards the end of the quarter, they picked up the tempo. The second unit needs more time together.
northcyde
December 22nd, 2011
8:13 pm
Elle is hella nice though. I saw her and that body from the 200 section at the Orlando playoff game . . and she was on the other side of the court. Not too many people touching Elle and that body.
But Stephanie IS Ready . . no doubt. Nothing like an articulate and fine woman.
David
December 22nd, 2011
8:14 pm
I’m surprised to see Radmanovic driving to the hoop.
northcyde
December 22nd, 2011
8:15 pm
lol Wanamaker . . . yep . . you’re cut dude.
BoneKollector
December 22nd, 2011
8:15 pm
I think I saw the name METHUSALAH on the back of Stackhouses jersey
Melvin
December 22nd, 2011
8:17 pm
Wannamaker turns the ball over too much for my liking…Not sure he’s a natural PG….
BoneKollector
December 22nd, 2011
8:18 pm
He isn’t. He’s a combo guard
Hawks have no TV game?
December 22nd, 2011
8:18 pm
nice ivan
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
8:19 pm
“Nothing like an articulate and fine woman.”
Yes Sir, I concur!
FreshFromAtl
December 22nd, 2011
8:19 pm
Sloan>Wanamaker
Ivan Johnson may be a keeper…
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
8:21 pm
@Northcyde,
checkout, latineuro dot com…. Bang!!!!
BoneKollector
December 22nd, 2011
8:21 pm
Marvin is gonna have his best year im tellin u
Hawks have no TV game?
December 22nd, 2011
8:21 pm
MARVIN FOR 3!!
FreshFromAtl
December 22nd, 2011
8:21 pm
Marvin with the Thrrrreeeeeeee
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
8:21 pm
Marvin for 33333333333333333333333333333333333333! Bang!!!
northcyde
December 22nd, 2011
8:21 pm
Corner 3 for Marvin . . . please add that to your offensive arsenal this year.
Blast
December 22nd, 2011
8:21 pm
Marvin’s 3 looked so easy and effortless.
Boom Dizzle
December 22nd, 2011
8:22 pm
Horford is taking more jumpers than Joe Johnson………
Hawks2012
December 22nd, 2011
8:22 pm
Oh I don’t like misinformed announcers, “They got bounced in the first round of the playoffs by Orlando.” Nope, that’s not what happened.
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
8:23 pm
Hey All NBA why dont you put the ball on the floor before you take that shot?
northcyde
December 22nd, 2011
8:23 pm
haha @ the Bobcat announcers . . . saying that we were bounced out of the 1st round by Orlando.
NO . . we bounced THEM out.
But that just shows how irrelevant we are to the rest of the NBA at times, even when we do “win”.
FreshFromAtl
December 22nd, 2011
8:23 pm
Ivan’s a keeper…
Melvin
December 22nd, 2011
8:23 pm
Wannamaker gave up the backdoor cut to Kemba. He may get cut during halftime.
Hawks have no TV game?
December 22nd, 2011
8:23 pm
nice hustle on ivan, back up PF?
vava74
December 22nd, 2011
8:23 pm
Ivan Johnson is the new POWE
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
8:23 pm
All NBA got that 1940’s set shot…..lol
Boom Dizzle
December 22nd, 2011
8:24 pm
Ivan Johnson ok ok….
BoneKollector
December 22nd, 2011
8:24 pm
Ivan is good so far
northcyde
December 22nd, 2011
8:24 pm
Hmmmmm . . . Ivan Johnson balling again.
Melvin
December 22nd, 2011
8:24 pm
If Ivan was 3 inches taller, he would have been a lottery pick…
Hawks have no TV game?
December 22nd, 2011
8:25 pm
it should be between him(ivan) and benson for back up PF
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
8:25 pm
“Hey All NBA why dont you put the ball on the floor before you take that shot?”
Cause its not a jumpshot…..
Rev in Tampa
December 22nd, 2011
8:27 pm
northcyde,
I haven’t been able to watch the game til now. How many rebounds for Al?
Najeh Davenpoop
December 22nd, 2011
8:27 pm
Al is struggling to score inside against DeSagana Diop.
Hawks have no TV game?
December 22nd, 2011
8:27 pm
horford is sucking in the post
David
December 22nd, 2011
8:27 pm
Horford is being aggressive, but missing on all of his attempts.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 22nd, 2011
8:28 pm
The Charlotte commentator, if I’m not mistaken, just called Smoove the Hawks’ most reliable scoring option inside.
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
8:28 pm
Al sucks tonight
Hawks have no TV game?
December 22nd, 2011
8:28 pm
nice putback horford,
Rev in Tampa
December 22nd, 2011
8:29 pm
i’m loving that new commitment to pressuring the 3pt shot. SMH
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
8:29 pm
was that al 1st rebound?
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
8:30 pm
Nice pass AL!
Blast
December 22nd, 2011
8:30 pm
Ballgame MVP? Josh Smith!
northcyde
December 22nd, 2011
8:30 pm
I thought we were running a new defense? If it’s going to leave all of these 3 point shooters open, then we need to go back to the 2011 defense.
Josh really active tonight. I like it.
Hawks have no TV game?
December 22nd, 2011
8:31 pm
joe needs to be the joe from 06..
David
December 22nd, 2011
8:31 pm
Horford is off shooting the ball tonight, but I like his energy right now.
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
8:31 pm
Oh Air Ball…..lol
Melvin
December 22nd, 2011
8:31 pm
Say what you want about Josh but that guy plays all over the court.
vava74
December 22nd, 2011
8:31 pm
damn, JJ’s shot looks broken again…
northcyde
December 22nd, 2011
8:32 pm
JJ is 0 – 5 on his three pointers in these 2 preseason games. Hope that isn’t a sign of what happened in 2010 – 11 with his 3 point shot.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 22nd, 2011
8:32 pm
Nice to see Al and Smoove getting inside position to grab offensive boards, though.
Hawks have no TV game?
December 22nd, 2011
8:32 pm
josh is looking good… INSIDE. maybe he needs to be limited to 3 shots out of the paint per game.
Wabe
December 22nd, 2011
8:32 pm
What channel is the game on?
Rolando
December 22nd, 2011
8:32 pm
“was that al 1st rebound?”
No, he has 4 rebounds so far (game high). Surprisingly, no one is grabbing a lot of boards tonight.
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
8:32 pm
Hey Larry I dont believe they are listening to ya?? Defense? What D?
Wabe
December 22nd, 2011
8:33 pm
WTF man…
There’s like no freakin’ games on tonight…
NBATV could’ve picked this game up.
BoneKollector
December 22nd, 2011
8:35 pm
Ivan the terrible
FreshFromAtl
December 22nd, 2011
8:35 pm
Ivan Johnson,
Your back-up PF people…
Najeh Davenpoop
December 22nd, 2011
8:35 pm
I don’t know if Ivan Johnson can be this effective with his hustle against better competition, but the Hawks sure could use an energy guy in the front court.
Hawks have no TV game?
December 22nd, 2011
8:36 pm
and1 for joe
northcyde
December 22nd, 2011
8:36 pm
Pretty move by JJ to draw the foul . . . Ivan may make this team. The way he’s playing is what we needed Josh Powell to do last year.
BoneKollector
December 22nd, 2011
8:37 pm
Ivan Johnson 10 mins
6 pts 3 rebs
And did I hear a Sonic the hedgehog sound lmao
Hawks have no TV game?
December 22nd, 2011
8:38 pm
good first half.. Hawks 49 Bobcats 46.. Ivan Johnson/Benson——> very good depth at PF.
Melvin
December 22nd, 2011
8:39 pm
SMH, Okur trade to the Nets for a 2nd round pick and TPE…
Hawks have no TV game?
December 22nd, 2011
8:39 pm
u would think that sports south in N.Carolina would have HD..
Prison Mike
December 22nd, 2011
8:42 pm
Ivan the terrific has to make the squad. He has a knack for knocking the ball away which is an underrated skill. Cut Twack if you have to…
superiorblogman
December 22nd, 2011
8:47 pm
Did not see much of the 1st half. From the little I did see, T-Mac gets to the line but everything else is suspect. Pargo does not need to play much if we are trying to win. Vlad and Zaza, please spare me. From the box score looks like Wanamaker is cutting himself 3 TO’s and really no good.
bigdave
December 22nd, 2011
8:47 pm
MC .. holla at me.. I’m in blue in white plaid.. brave fitted courtside across from hawk bench..
Buddy Grizzard
December 22nd, 2011
8:49 pm
Not watching the game but it doesn’t sound like tmac is going to be able to guard anybody. Not to sound like a broken record but… Bogans? He can guard three positions.
superiorblogman
December 22nd, 2011
8:54 pm
Melvin
December 22nd, 2011
8:39 pm
SMH, Okur trade to the Nets for a 2nd round pick and TPE…
That is about right. Okur is just a pick and pop big that is vastly overpaid at this point. Utah just wanted to get rid of his contract and get something in return. They have Millsap, Jefferson, Favors, and Kanter, really no room for a guy that they would be paying like a starter.
MattP
December 22nd, 2011
8:55 pm
I can see Drew likes Sloan and I. Johnson they both are up there in minutes with the starters.
bluesteel
December 22nd, 2011
8:56 pm
Horford has to be the sorriest defending big man starting in the nba
Najeh Davenpoop
December 22nd, 2011
8:58 pm
Wow, nice block Marvin.
bluesteel
December 22nd, 2011
8:58 pm
see how augustine put it in horfords face
Najeh Davenpoop
December 22nd, 2011
8:58 pm
Nice flop Maggette.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 22nd, 2011
8:59 pm
I don’t know what Al’s ultimate goal was on that post up on Maggette. He was in ideal position to spin off of it and go in for the dunk. I don’t know why he threw his shoulder into him.
Rolando
December 22nd, 2011
8:59 pm
Maggette has been working on his flopping…
Hawks2012
December 22nd, 2011
9:00 pm
He was moving side to side there, how is that a charge?! Flop like a fish.
bluesteel
December 22nd, 2011
9:00 pm
Al should plant his body in the low post and stay there
Sautee
December 22nd, 2011
9:00 pm
LOL @ the Bobcat announcers acting like Maggete’s flops are great defense. At LEAST they could acknowledge the effective flopping.
Sautee
December 22nd, 2011
9:02 pm
“Horford has to be the sorriest defending big man starting in the nba”
Maybe so, but he’s leading his team in blocked shots.
bluesteel
December 22nd, 2011
9:02 pm
Josh with the smart foul because Al just stands there.
Sautee
December 22nd, 2011
9:03 pm
Josh is really trying hard to accept foul calls without reacting.
So far.
BoneKollector
December 22nd, 2011
9:04 pm
Josh with a stupid pass
Pass it to the PG Damn
BigTimeTECHFan
December 22nd, 2011
9:04 pm
I wanna see this lineup
JJ
Sloan
Smith
Hortford
Benson
bluesteel
December 22nd, 2011
9:05 pm
Sautee I agree with you but I thought I had already said that Al is a sorry defending big man.
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
9:05 pm
bluesteel
December 22nd, 2011
8:56 pm
“Horford has to be the sorriest defending big man starting in the nba”
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.Wish we had DeAndre Jordan!!
Medestruit
December 22nd, 2011
9:06 pm
Maggette has done a hell of a job flopping all over the floor, that’s for sure. -.-
Hawks have no TV game?
December 22nd, 2011
9:06 pm
josh is showing people why the trade rumors are just…rumors. I think this should be his and marvin williams break out seasons
bluesteel
December 22nd, 2011
9:06 pm
Yea, it would help Josh if he did not have to do all the defending in the low post.
Sautee
December 22nd, 2011
9:07 pm
ding!
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
9:08 pm
WTF All NBA??????lol
BoneKollector
December 22nd, 2011
9:09 pm
My link just went to porn lmaooo
Najeh Davenpoop
December 22nd, 2011
9:09 pm
T-Mac is not trying.
BigTimeTECHFan
December 22nd, 2011
9:09 pm
they just change my game feed to porn
Katie
December 22nd, 2011
9:10 pm
Just enjoying the Hawks ga……. WHA?????
Medestruit
December 22nd, 2011
9:10 pm
This is a terrible quarter of basketball from both teams…haha. 9-8 Atlanta. With 2 or 3 Maggette flops and probably as many turnovers per team…this is bad. Joe Johnson still will never drive the ball, so sad. He has talent(not max contract talent, but 2nd tier talent) but refuses to use it and his size.
Rolando
December 22nd, 2011
9:10 pm
lol @ what just happened to my internet broadcast. I guess the person streaming found something more interesting to watch.
Prison Mike
December 22nd, 2011
9:10 pm
If Josh shoots too many jump shots I wonder what Joe does, my goodness.
Boom Dizzle
December 22nd, 2011
9:10 pm
Wait since when has Corey Maggette been a big get? These Bobcat announcers are comical…
Najeh Davenpoop
December 22nd, 2011
9:11 pm
Damn, I am watching this stream in a place where it would not be good if it switched to porn…
Rolando
December 22nd, 2011
9:11 pm
I think Katie must be watching the same broadcast I was…
BigTimeTECHFan
December 22nd, 2011
9:11 pm
wrong Johnson, I wanted to see Joe Johnson
Najeh Davenpoop
December 22nd, 2011
9:11 pm
Here is Byron Mullens, the man who made Grandad quit posting on this blog.
bluesteel
December 22nd, 2011
9:13 pm
looks like Vanovich will help zaza off the bench. Looks like they will develop chemistry. Z is a fighter.
Rolando
December 22nd, 2011
9:13 pm
Does anyone have a link to a working broadcast for the game?
Right now, I’m stuck with this travel guide for porn on the last link I was using.
Medestruit
December 22nd, 2011
9:13 pm
You know, if the Hawks could figure out how to get to the stripe this season(something they haven’t done in quite some time with any consistency), they could actually possibly improve. They have some pretty good FT shooters.
Prison Mike
December 22nd, 2011
9:14 pm
If players like Maggette and Derrick Brown give Tmac major fits then it will be a long season for him. It’s not a wonder why Chicago wouldn’t give him the minimum.
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
9:14 pm
“I think Katie must be watching the same broadcast I was…”
Kattie needs to cover her eyes! That is all…..
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
9:15 pm
firstrowsports dot tv take link #2! working great!
Katie
December 22nd, 2011
9:15 pm
Nothing I haven’t seen before.
sigh…
bluesteel
December 22nd, 2011
9:16 pm
Slimjr Deandre does look like a beast with room to grow. Hes 6′11″ legit and good.
Hawks have no TV game?
December 22nd, 2011
9:16 pm
vlad with the 3
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
9:17 pm
All NBA for the Real Deal DeAndre!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hawks2012
December 22nd, 2011
9:18 pm
“It’s a bit quiet in this town.” It would be different if that came from anyone else but Charlotte of all places. You can’t say that when you have basically the same attendance than Atlanta, and your team didn’t make the playoffs last year.
Prison Mike
December 22nd, 2011
9:19 pm
Stacks jump shot makes me appreciate Josh’s, put that in your pipe and smoke it.
bluesteel
December 22nd, 2011
9:19 pm
So times I think Z should start. I mean he can be a force and will be around a long time. He is a good value for the money. There was time he started. He a good defender
Medestruit
December 22nd, 2011
9:19 pm
“Katie
December 22nd, 2011
9:15 pm
Nothing I haven’t seen before.
sigh…”
I’d hope that’s the case -.-
Najeh Davenpoop
December 22nd, 2011
9:20 pm
Nice move by T-Mac. He didn’t finish, but that’s going to result in a foul or a basket more often than not.
bluesteel
December 22nd, 2011
9:20 pm
Do it now Slimjr !
Hawks have no TV game?
December 22nd, 2011
9:21 pm
hawsk are pulling away
vava74
December 22nd, 2011
9:21 pm
I am actually liking Pargo.
Hawks have no TV game?
December 22nd, 2011
9:22 pm
Hawks*
Prison Mike
December 22nd, 2011
9:22 pm
There’s that historically low percentage jumpshot Pargo just displayed. Just play point and good defense.
Hawks have no TV game?
December 22nd, 2011
9:22 pm
pargo is more of a passer than a scorer. I like that.
Medestruit
December 22nd, 2011
9:22 pm
“vava74
December 22nd, 2011
9:21 pm
I am actually liking Pargo.”
He’s an up tempo player with a nice looking shot(that’s not to say he’s a good shooter, but at least it looks good going up…has to count for something right?).
Hawks have no TV game?
December 22nd, 2011
9:23 pm
LOL THEY SAY BYRON MULLENS PLAYS PICKUP GAMES AT PRISON!! LOL!
Najeh Davenpoop
December 22nd, 2011
9:24 pm
Byron Mullens is -11 in 12 minutes. I think it is safe to say this isn’t the non-move that will define Sund’s career in Atlanta.
Harry Hawk
December 22nd, 2011
9:24 pm
Pargo, Willie Green, Vlad, T-Mac…
I smell a division title.
superiorblogman
December 22nd, 2011
9:26 pm
I actually like what I am seeing from Al tonite. Like Teague he is getting in the lane just can’t finish
Buddy Grizzard
December 22nd, 2011
9:26 pm
Pargo looks like JC1 on defense… this guy is a joke.
Melvin
December 22nd, 2011
9:27 pm
No playing time for Benson or Rolle?
Prison Mike
December 22nd, 2011
9:27 pm
Jeez Steve Martin rights nuts like no other. Makes me appreciate Bob a little more.
Melvin
December 22nd, 2011
9:30 pm
Sloan, Wannamaker and Rolle will get cut.
superiorblogman
December 22nd, 2011
9:30 pm
Najeh Davenpoop
December 22nd, 2011
9:24 pm
Byron Mullens is -11 in 12 minutes. I think it is safe to say this isn’t the non-move that will define Sund’s career in Atlanta.
Mullens is garbage, Koufus is garbage, Leonard Meyers from Illini is garbage coming to the end of a NBA near you shortly.
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
9:30 pm
“I actually like what I am seeing from Al tonite. Like Teague he is getting in the lane just can’t finish”
Wait till the playoffs where the defense is far superior…….
bluesteel
December 22nd, 2011
9:31 pm
Yeah doesnt look like Al can finish in the paint and hes still not being agressive under the rim. I dont worry about Al’s offense. I know hell get his 12-13 pts but its his defense or the lack of it that makes me shake my head about Al. He should be more assertive and aggressive.
Buddy Grizzard
December 22nd, 2011
9:31 pm
“So times I think Z should start. I mean he can be a force and will be around a long time. He is a good value for the money. There was time he started. He a good defender” – bluesteel
Co-sign. But Las Vegas Larry won’t start him because he has a personal problem with him.
superiorblogman
December 22nd, 2011
9:33 pm
bluesteel
December 22nd, 2011
9:19 pm
So times I think Z should start. I mean he can be a force and will be around a long time. He is a good value for the money. There was time he started. He a good defender
Zaza is not a starter in the NBA. It is proven by his rebounding numbers as a starter vs his rebounding numbers as a bench player.
Buddy Grizzard
December 22nd, 2011
9:34 pm
Kemba Walker makes Pargo look like he’s standing still AND 12 years old. Kemba can blow by him or run over him at will.
J.J.M.
December 22nd, 2011
9:35 pm
lol come on benson you are wayyy taller than him
bluesteel
December 22nd, 2011
9:36 pm
Zaza is not a starter now, but he was, before Big Al.
stizz
December 22nd, 2011
9:36 pm
Najeh,
How do you feel about the Hawks going after recently waived MIckael Pietrus, especially given the struggles of T Mac and Stackhouse?
Medestruit
December 22nd, 2011
9:36 pm
Heyyyyy….Joe Johnson drove the ball and drew a foul! Imagine that.
J.J.M.
December 22nd, 2011
9:36 pm
wow was that horoford who got blocked
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
9:36 pm
nice block….Diyumbo
Rolando
December 22nd, 2011
9:37 pm
It’s almost a given that the refs will call an offensive foul every time a big man is being guarded by a smaller player in the post and the smaller player flops. The bigger the size difference, the higher the likelihood.
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
9:37 pm
Beson looks like All NBA out there…………..Sheesh!!!
Rolando
December 22nd, 2011
9:37 pm
“wow was that horoford who got blocked”
Horford is not even in the game. That was Benson.
bluesteel
December 22nd, 2011
9:38 pm
Las Vegas Larry ? LMAO
Melvin
December 22nd, 2011
9:38 pm
No need to keep Benson and Rolle, they are duplicates (Benson stays). Same thing with Pargo vs Sloan/Wannamaker. I think Ivan Johnson made case for himself to be added to the roster. Especially since he such a physically presence to the court.
Boom Dizzle
December 22nd, 2011
9:39 pm
They are going to have to find a spot for Ivan Johnson…..
bluesteel
December 22nd, 2011
9:39 pm
Josh!
FreshFromAtl
December 22nd, 2011
9:39 pm
I AM LOVING THIS KID IVAN JOHNSON (No homo)
Melvin
December 22nd, 2011
9:39 pm
Ivan Johnson jerseys will go on sale tomorrow morning….
Najeh Davenpoop
December 22nd, 2011
9:39 pm
Ivan Johnson is a little too confident in his abilities, which is probably going to lead to some poor decisions against better competition, but I like his energy.
J.J.M.
December 22nd, 2011
9:39 pm
I couldnt see who it was thats why I asked….damn what a block by smoove
Hawks2012
December 22nd, 2011
9:39 pm
Tonight: Alvin Johnson>Joe Johnson
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
9:39 pm
Ivan the terrific!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sautee
December 22nd, 2011
9:39 pm
Who’s the best Johnson tonight?
Buddy Grizzard
December 22nd, 2011
9:40 pm
“Zaza is not a starter in the NBA.” – superiorblogtroll
Zaza would instantly be a top-15 starting center if given the opportunity, but he won’t be. The only concern would be that he would pick up fouls too quickly.
PS sign Ivan up.
Prison Mike
December 22nd, 2011
9:40 pm
Speaking of prison, Ivan looks like he just did a bid… I would know.
I like him, as I root for ex-cons.
Medestruit
December 22nd, 2011
9:40 pm
Smoove says not so fast Mr. Walker.
Rev in Tampa
December 22nd, 2011
9:40 pm
That last sequence was worth the price of admission.
Hawks2012
December 22nd, 2011
9:40 pm
wow Ivan** how did I manage to mess that up.
Mr.E
December 22nd, 2011
9:40 pm
Ivan is the real deal
Najeh Davenpoop
December 22nd, 2011
9:40 pm
Joe has to knock down those shots when Smoove kicks it out to him wide open for 3. Joe’s continued struggles from 3 are a cause for concern. Those are shots he has to knock down.
stizz
December 22nd, 2011
9:40 pm
Ivan is a keeper folks.
vava74
December 22nd, 2011
9:40 pm
if Ivan could pass, his game could resemble Anthony Mason’s… that slow motion feint was veeeery funny!!!
Dept. Of Unintended Irony
December 22nd, 2011
9:41 pm
“Tonight: Alvin Johnson>Joe Johnson”
Ivan. He’s not a chipmunk
Rolando
December 22nd, 2011
9:41 pm
Ivan Johnson really has looked pretty good in this game. Physically, he looks like an undersized PF who would be too slow to defend wing players, but he seems to know how to use his size pretty well.
superiorblogman
December 22nd, 2011
9:41 pm
bluesteel
December 22nd, 2011
9:36 pm
Zaza is not a starter now, but he was, before Big Al.
Yes and his rebounding rate suffered because he is not a starting caliber player
Melvin
December 22nd, 2011
9:41 pm
stizz,
Peitrus is out of the Hawks price range.
Rolando
December 22nd, 2011
9:42 pm
Alvin Johnson? Are we talking about the guy who cleans pools in “Love Don’t Cost a Thing?” lol
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
9:42 pm
Iso shot is broke…….
Buddy Grizzard
December 22nd, 2011
9:42 pm
Smith moving super fast after losing all that weight.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 22nd, 2011
9:43 pm
Joe and Smoove are still out there with a 14 point lead in a preseason game with 5 minutes left.
vava74
December 22nd, 2011
9:43 pm
Najeh Davenpoop
December 22nd, 2011
9:39 pm
Ivan Johnson is a little too confident in his abilities, which is probably going to lead to some poor decisions against better competition, but I like his energy.
Perfect assessment: this will not work in regular season play, but one thing I can tell you, that guy can earn major money in Euroball
Rev in Tampa
December 22nd, 2011
9:43 pm
“Who’s the best Johnson tonight?”
with all streaming porno popping up all over the place you need not ask that question.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 22nd, 2011
9:43 pm
OK now they are gone.
Time to see if any scrubs stand out over the last 4 minutes.
Buddy Grizzard
December 22nd, 2011
9:44 pm
“Las Vegas Larry ? LMAO” – bluesteel
Bluesteel you didn’t hear? Larry Drew likes to sit All-NBA centers for entire halves of playoff games cause he’s got a little action on the side.
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
9:45 pm
“Who’s the best Johnson tonight?”
with all streaming porno popping up all over the place you need not ask that question.”
Is this Eddie Long posting?? lol
Najeh Davenpoop
December 22nd, 2011
9:45 pm
Nice follow by Benson.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 22nd, 2011
9:45 pm
Eli Porter > Melvin Ely
superiorblogman
December 22nd, 2011
9:46 pm
Sloan looks like Raymond Felton
J.J.M.
December 22nd, 2011
9:46 pm
lmao calling them scrubs
KevinM
December 22nd, 2011
9:46 pm
Keep Ivan, drop Benson off in Reno for more development.
Keep Sloan as well.
Stack, Sy and the other rooks can go.
FreshFromAtl
December 22nd, 2011
9:46 pm
Hawks are gonna be a pretty good team this year (barring any major injuries). Once the bench develop some chemistry, these dudes are gonna be deep.
J.J.M.
December 22nd, 2011
9:46 pm
eli porter I deed itttt
Najeh Davenpoop
December 22nd, 2011
9:46 pm
Pape Sy, our supposed backup point guard, gives Magnum Rolle the ball near the half court line on a fast break.
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
9:47 pm
Katie better cover her eyes…That is all….lol
bluesteel
December 22nd, 2011
9:47 pm
Bobcat got the look of losers on their face. Stick a fork in it.
vava74
December 22nd, 2011
9:47 pm
But he has very very good swiping instincts… 3 steals and on monday he had at least one too…
ntrigue
December 22nd, 2011
9:48 pm
Liking Ivan, Sloan, and if Benson adds some weight he will be good!
Prison Mike
December 22nd, 2011
9:48 pm
Ivan may be alittle too confident. Nothing wrong with that as he knows he’s better than Marv. His basketball awareness is high and he has a soft touch. Seems to be a good rebounder as well.
Medestruit
December 22nd, 2011
9:48 pm
I’d like to see the Hawks play a couple games of pure quick-draw offense(up tempo, driving the ball). They have such amazing athleticism that it would make perfect sense. I understand it isn’t a system that really works in the NBA(outside of what Mike D’Antoni does with his teams on the offensive side) but man they’re fun to watch in the break.
Sautee
December 22nd, 2011
9:48 pm
LOL @ Rev
bluesteel
December 22nd, 2011
9:49 pm
You always go to the middle as early as possible on a fast break to maximize the options…
KevinM
December 22nd, 2011
9:49 pm
“Prison Mike
December 22nd, 2011
9:19 pm
Stacks jump shot makes me appreciate Josh’s”
Add Sy to that list….
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
9:49 pm
Hawks 18-4 1st 22!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Get Teague healed up quick!
Rev in Tampa
December 22nd, 2011
9:49 pm
Slim Jr.
I’m just acknowleding Sautee’s brilliant use of double-entendre.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 22nd, 2011
9:49 pm
The floater I dropped in the toilet this morning > Magnum Rolle’s floater
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
9:50 pm
Does Sy have a jumper? Haven’t seen it?
bluesteel
December 22nd, 2011
9:50 pm
Still laughing Buddy!
Najeh Davenpoop
December 22nd, 2011
9:51 pm
Granted I have only seen 3/4 of this game and none of the previous game, but of all the players the Hawks have on the roster bubble, Magnum Rolle looks like the worst.
doc
December 22nd, 2011
9:51 pm
rev the devils got you again … roflolcs
KevinM
December 22nd, 2011
9:51 pm
The Nets are reloading with Lopez out……….
Nets trade for Mehmet Okur to fill in for injured Lopez
Buddy Grizzard
December 22nd, 2011
9:51 pm
I like the Anthony Mason comparison… not quite on that level of a ball handler but definitely solid and skilled. Magnum needs to roll on out of town. Sloan, Wannamaker, Pargo and Sy can all catch a ride. Keep Benson as a project if there’s a roster spot for him.
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
9:52 pm
Like this Griffin dude!
Prison Mike
December 22nd, 2011
9:52 pm
Sloan passes up an open 26 foot 3 pointer for a contested 25 footer, this guy.
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
9:53 pm
Cant cut Ivan!!!
Buddy Grizzard
December 22nd, 2011
9:53 pm
Ivan with the hustle out of bounds to save that possession.
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
9:53 pm
Bang! IVAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
FreshFromAtl
December 22nd, 2011
9:53 pm
Where can I purchase an Ivan Johnson jersey?
Melvin
December 22nd, 2011
9:54 pm
I’m pre-ordering my Ivan Johnson jersey to night….
bluesteel
December 22nd, 2011
9:54 pm
Johnson should get the job.Looks pretty good
IVAN JOHNSON BABY!!
December 22nd, 2011
9:54 pm
IVAN JOHNSON!! CMON NOW IF HE GETS CUT, THIS HAWKS TEAM WILL GO NOWHERE
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
9:54 pm
Hey Ivan would you show those guards how to shoot the rock?
KevinM
December 22nd, 2011
9:55 pm
Ivan the terrible…..he and Zaza would make a physical pair.
Pape Sy is not bench worthy. He needs to go to Reno too!
Prison Mike
December 22nd, 2011
9:55 pm
Ivan is that ninja. Sund do the right thing.
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
9:55 pm
If Ivan gets cut, I may have to pull a GDAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Medestruit
December 22nd, 2011
9:56 pm
Blake Griffin’s brother is even uglier than Blake is…that’s scary. It’s like the Lopez’ brothers.
Mr.E
December 22nd, 2011
9:57 pm
Ivan looked good in both games, good stuff
Najeh Davenpoop
December 22nd, 2011
9:57 pm
“Who’s the better Johnson tonight?”
Well, I am at about 3.5 inches.
MattP
December 22nd, 2011
9:58 pm
Ivan and Smith on same team is amazing, both are great on both ends of the court.
IVAN JOHNSON BABY!!
December 22nd, 2011
9:58 pm
ivan johnson had 15 points and 6 rebounds… where can i get his jersey?
Prison Mike
December 22nd, 2011
9:58 pm
What could be more depressing than “Bobcats Live” lmaooo.
drmaryb.[*_*].
December 22nd, 2011
9:59 pm
The Game!
Just saw the final 7:35 minutes of the game and, I saw some good things and some not so good things.
Ivan Johnson has played his way onto this team. Sign him up now. Josh was flying around looking good too.
Katie
December 22nd, 2011
9:59 pm
” Rev in Tampa
December 22nd, 2011
9:43 pm
“Who’s the best Johnson tonight?”
with all streaming porno popping up all over the place you need not ask that question. ”
LMAO
vava74
December 22nd, 2011
9:59 pm
Ivan Johnson is the son of Antony Mason and Reggie Evans (for the looks)
A little bit of both, but not nearly as good as any of the two.
KevinM
December 22nd, 2011
9:59 pm
Get your Ivan Johnson jerseys………..
http://store.nba.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4413041
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
10:00 pm
Najeh Davenpoop
December 22nd, 2011
9:57 pm
“Who’s the better Johnson tonight?”
“Well, I am at about 3.5 inches.”
Dayum…..Thats about the size of the average vava…….lmao
IVAN JOHNSON BABY!!
December 22nd, 2011
10:02 pm
mickael peitrus just got waived by the suns…. RICK SUND SIGN HIM!!
superiorblogman
December 22nd, 2011
10:02 pm
Pape Sy is so worthless right now as a NBA player. D-League or straight cut is fair.
Wanamaker- Liked him until I saw that he is not NBA ready. Cut
Sloan- Really not impressed but he will probably be on the team for lack of better options for the time being.
Pargo-Not impressed but will be on the team for time being.
Stack- I mean as far as on the court, he should get the axe but I don’t know what he actually does in the locker room. So, whatever.
Benson- Benson looks good until there is contact. He is not ready to make a steady contribution. I would send him to the D-League but spare him the cut.
Rolle- I will pass on Rolle, have not seen anything to be encouraged about, cut would be fair.
Ivan Johnson- a pleasant surprise but he can keep the jump shots, when they are not falling he would get torn apart around here. For now he should be spared the cut but he has to know that energy is his thing. Has to bring it every night.
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
10:04 pm
agree Sy aint the one..Keep Sloan
bluesteel
December 22nd, 2011
10:05 pm
Yo boy Al played the 2nd most minutes to produce 6 points. Actually he missed playing the most minutes by less than a minute. Al hasnt shown me Ch!t this summer.
IVAN JOHNSON BABY!!
December 22nd, 2011
10:05 pm
neither sloan or wannamaker are NBA material..
IVAN JOHNSON BABY!!
December 22nd, 2011
10:06 pm
@bluesteel u mean winter?
kwooden
December 22nd, 2011
10:07 pm
Quick assessment:
1) Ivan looks good at PF, but like the size of Benson. Put Benson in the D-League and keep Ivan
2) JJ shot looks bad, time for him to shoot a 100/day so the misses go away!
3) Josh was very active, looks ready to go
4) Horford with alot of effort but not much to show for it
5) Pargo looks fine
6) Pape to the D-League
GO HAWKS!!
PS: Would like Peitrus but can’t afford him. ASG BABY!!
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
10:08 pm
”
bluesteel
December 22nd, 2011
10:05 pm
“Yo boy Al played the 2nd most minutes to produce 6 points. Actually he missed playing the most minutes by less than a minute. Al hasnt shown me Ch!t this summer.”
He’s out of position at the 5 remember?
His natural position is the 4?…….Dont gag….lol
bluesteel
December 22nd, 2011
10:09 pm
Slimjr. LMAO,
bluesteel
December 22nd, 2011
10:11 pm
My bad Ivan, check that , Winter
vava74
December 22nd, 2011
10:11 pm
Al played against smallish Cs, so he did not have the speed advantage.
Basically he was working like a PF, trying to make plays but he did not get the space. The result was garbage.
Fortunately he worked on the boards and on D.
Big Ray
December 22nd, 2011
10:12 pm
1) Josh Smith looked damn good. Still shoots errant 20 footers, but looked good.
2) Horford got rebounds. Yay!
3) Joe looks like he can keep up with this season’s rigors. Other than J-Smoove, I’m not sure about anybody else.
4) David Sloan > Brad Wannamaker
5) Ivan Johnson wants a job. And because he was the best hustler down low – he’ll be cut. Hawks management is beyond stupid.
6) Pape Sy – it don’t look good. Better hope Gearon likes you.
bluesteel
December 22nd, 2011
10:12 pm
Take a chance :
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3442/deandre-jordan
Good scouting Slimjr
superiorblogman
December 22nd, 2011
10:16 pm
I think Rolle and Wanamaker get cut. I don’t see how we keep Stack.
Pape and Benson get a D League assignment.
13 on opening night
Jeff/Sloan/Pargo
Joe/Willie Green/
Marvin/T-Mac/Rad
Josh/Ivan
Horford/Zaza/Collins
kwooden
December 22nd, 2011
10:17 pm
The Pressing from the 2nd unit is an interesting move by LD, I wonder if he’s going to consistently employ it. It worked really well this game, but partly because the Bobcats are a terrible team. But our 2nd unit doesn’t look that great either and they played good defensive. The press seems to make them work a little harder in terms of getting out to shooters and being aggressive on screen and rolls.
Rev in Tampa
December 22nd, 2011
10:19 pm
I agree with Superior’s assessment of the Hawks roster
bluesteel
December 22nd, 2011
10:20 pm
Orlando got Miami’s hass tonight.
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
10:20 pm
Thanks Bluesteel…Why not?
DeAndre Jordan
#6 C
6′ 11″, 265 lbs
Los Angeles Clippers
BornJul 21, 1988 in Houston, TX (Age: 23)
Drafted2008: 2nd Rnd, 5th by LAC
CollegeTexas A&M
Experience3 years
Got Hops for days!
KevinM
December 22nd, 2011
10:20 pm
Co-sign superior! That’s a fair and balanced roster.
KevinM
December 22nd, 2011
10:22 pm
For us to be able to win against anyone in any situation without JT, you have to feel good.
Now can they play well against > .500 teams?
bluesteel
December 22nd, 2011
10:24 pm
Here ya go Slimjr. Check this out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p51gvnVSFKc
Rev in Tampa
December 22nd, 2011
10:25 pm
Its funny how nobody seemed to know Ivan Johnson even existed in the Hawks preseason camp until the first game up in Charlotte. I’d like MC to give us more information about him or even get a brief interview with him. Has Drew said anything publicly about Ivan?
Slimjr
December 22nd, 2011
10:28 pm
@blue, just nasty that DaAndre!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mike is Back
December 22nd, 2011
10:33 pm
Ivan Johnson looks like a real player…I have really been impressed by his body of work…should have gave dude some props from the last game.
bluesteel
December 22nd, 2011
10:34 pm
Slimjr I think the 3rd dunk was a face off against Al.
Rev. Ivan is a major scorer and management would be foolish not to keep him.
http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/ivan_johnson/
Najeh Davenpoop
December 22nd, 2011
10:36 pm
“Dayum…..Thats about the size of the average vava…….lmao”
Needless to say I had my screen name jacked, although I gotta admit that joke wasn’t that bad.
bluesteel
December 22nd, 2011
10:38 pm
an Johnson #44 Forward
Ivan Johnson
2010-11 Playoff Statistics
PPG 23.0
RPG 9.0
APG 3.0
EFF +25.00
NUNNA!!
December 22nd, 2011
10:40 pm
Josh looked good..Ivan looked great..Even Prago looked decent on the defensive end..
I know my boy rolle will most likely get the ax,but,he didn’t get the time nor many chances to show his game..He is one who is great on the low blocks and coming in at the end of the game with 4 minutes left to play is non inspiring but,with that being said,he did not show much at all tonite..
IF he goes somewhere else after being cut,or goes to the D-League,look for him to blossom and come back and haunt this team,lol..We always let someone get away and they turn into superstars!!
But,Ivan did what he had to do and he showed out!!
Congrats Mr.Johnson,i know u made the team!
JaeEvolution
December 22nd, 2011
10:40 pm
Does Ivan Johnson remind anyone of Dejaun Blair minus the massive girth? He has quick hands and uses his quickness to make up for his lack of size plus Ivan has a solid jumper.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 22nd, 2011
10:41 pm
I agree that SBM’s roster will probably end up being the roster going into the season. I don’t entirely understand why Sund wants Pargo and Green both on the roster, though. If I were him I would probably rather have Benson around than one of them. I still don’t think the big man depth is good enough.
kwooden
December 22nd, 2011
10:41 pm
Nice link blue, it shows that the jumpers weren’t just mistakes, the guy can score. I like his energy and decisiveness. When he got the ball, he knew immediately what he was going to do with it. He drove the lane when it was available and shot the ball when his defender backed off. All his shots looked like they came in the context of the offensive, so his teammates wheren’t out of position if he missed.
NUNNA!!
December 22nd, 2011
10:45 pm
Bluesteel,they couldn’t find a better pic for the young man?
He looks crazy on that picture
bluesteel
December 22nd, 2011
10:45 pm
Kwooden I agree with your assessment.
In a very short career the guy averages 18 pts and last year in 31.5 minutes a game he brought 22. Hes the real deal and a young man at that. This guy will be a star at some point.
I
NUNNA!!
December 22nd, 2011
10:48 pm
Kwooden says:”Nice link blue, it shows that the jumpers weren’t just mistakes, the guy can score. I like his energy and decisiveness. When he got the ball, he knew immediately what he was going to do with it. He drove the lane when it was available and shot the ball when his defender backed off. All his shots looked like they came in the context of the offensive, so his teammates wheren’t out of position if he missed.”
Agreed..
But,I just hope that Ivan doesn’t fall into the play of his teamates like Jamaal did after 15 games with the hawks and start ball hawking
doc
December 22nd, 2011
10:55 pm
ivan is a sleeper, keep him and find a way to incorporate him into the mix to see what he has early rather than late ld.
has anyone seen anything to suggest either t mac or stack can deliver on the court? t mac looks out of shape.
NUNNA!!
December 22nd, 2011
10:56 pm
Hopefully,and thats a big HOPE,with the loss of Crawford “bolting”to portland,this hawks team will learn to play the offense and the way LD talked about when he was hired here as the Coach..
And a question for all..
Knowing what we all know now about this team,if the hawks have a very ugly exit out of the playoffs or if we don’t make it to the playoffs at all should LD be brought back?
And should Sund remain as the GM?
Who would you fault and why?
NUNNA!!
December 22nd, 2011
10:59 pm
Doc,
As far as Stack and T-Mac goes,i think those Dinosaurs are here on name rec only..
I like them both but i think they’re time has come..And,if one of them sticks and the other don’t,i think that T-Mac will be the odd man out..
SteveW
December 22nd, 2011
11:05 pm
You guys remember Ivan Johnson was in the mini-camp before the lockout – MC said he looked good. Had some reviews about him on this blog – Great, Great offensive game – too confident, shoots crazy sometimes, no D, poor defensive rebounder, and a very, very, very, very troubled past.
Major NBA offensive skills, but NBA teams have been scared off by the negatives…
I like him, especially if he’s matured some.
Wonder if we keep Stack?
doc
December 22nd, 2011
11:05 pm
nunna, i thought t mac was on a guarantee contract. i dont think either one of them can be anything more than what joe smith was two years ago or etan was last year. neither one showed anything close to ivan the terrible. young guards dont impress either and why should that surprise since we havent found the key to evaluating young point guards since when? but we found another 6 ft 8 guy to add to the roster, maybe. really ivan looks better on the court than that number two pick that is 6 ft 8, too.
benson looked like he moved pretty well just not sure he knows exactly where to move to.
doc
December 22nd, 2011
11:07 pm
hmmm major issues, eh steve w? just when i thought it was safe to get back in the water.
SteveW
December 22nd, 2011
11:07 pm
And Ivan is already older than Josh, Marvin, and Al – Just sayin’
But I like him better than Vlad Rad. Good backup PF in my opinion.
Ken Strickland
December 22nd, 2011
11:09 pm
Like I said, we’re a much better team with PG JTeague, but we’re not bad without him. The uptempo pace and DEF we got from Sloan was more valuable than what we would have gotten last yr from Bibby. Thats why I wasn’t worried about our chance to win without Teague. I believe the difficult schedule will affect our frontcourt players more than our backcourt players. So, we should keep an additional Big rather than an additional Guard.
Drew answered one of my main questions when he said Pargo and Green play aggressive DEF, which will allow our 2nd unit to play the type of DEF he wants to play. That statement tells me they will be on the active roster. It also tells me he will use DEF as the primary way of getting production from his bench, rather than trying to rely on OFF, like he did last yr with Jamal.
Rev in Tampa
December 22nd, 2011
11:15 pm
Why no love for Rad on the blog? I haven’t watched either game closely, but I saw him play good perimeter defense with the steals. He seemed to be pretty active every time he was in the game. What grades would you all give him.
SteveW
December 22nd, 2011
11:18 pm
If we cut Sy, Benson, and Rolle, and keep Pargo and Green, I think we are just below the tax line.
Actually I think we can keep 1 of the 3 and be right at 70.3m, give or take a little. If we keep 2 of the 3, or Ivan and 1 more, look for Pargo to be waived before the Feb. 10th deadline when contracts become fully guaranteed.
Benson’s contract may be at least partially guaranteed, so that may factor into keeping him.
SteveW
December 22nd, 2011
11:24 pm
Last I checked we were at 69.7m, with Sy, Benson, and Rolle’s contract, but before Pargo and Green. Vets will count between $800-900,000.00 towards the tax. on minimum contracts. Other guys between $400-500,000.00. But Sy and Rolle had 788,000.00 contracts, a little more than the Sloan, Ivan Johnson’s of the world. So you cut Sy and Rolle, you have a payroll with Pargo and Green at about 69.9 mill.
Room for 1 rookie besides Benson before the Luxury Tax, or right at it – would it be Sloan or Ivan? Or would ASG pocket the cash and not get anyone else? Or go into Luxury Tax for Stack? Interesting
Michael Cunningham
December 22nd, 2011
11:25 pm
new blog posted. shutting down this thread.