Atlanta Hawks: Hawks 92, Bobcats 75 (exhibition)
- In just five days the games will count for the Hawks. It’s hard to know what conclusions can be drawn from two exhibition games against one of the worst teams in the East. So I guess most of the following analysis comes with that disclaimer.
- Fans responded to Ivan Johnson’s energetic, physical play. So did his teammates. “I was impressed,” Al Horford said. “The thing I like the most about him is he’s aggressive. He goes out there and plays hard. He’s fearless. I think he would be a nice addition to our team.”
- I never would have thought so–Johnson is an undersized, over-aged prospect at a position where the Hawks have up to five guys as options. But Johnson has produced and made the most of his chance, earning a “very close look” from Drew.
- “When we had him in the minicamp the thing that intrigued me was how hard he played,” Drew said. “He is capable of making shots but he’s like a Mack truck in there at times. If you get in his way he will run you over. If there is a loose ball he doesn’t care who’s around him, he’s going after it. We need that on our team. He brings a presence when he’s on the floor, a physicality when he’s on the floor.”
- There were times when the Hawks looked like a bona fide, hard-nosed defensive team. “We really committed to it,” Horford said.
- Atlanta’s defense improved once Jannero Pargo replaced Donald Sloan at point guard. Pargo had more success keeping D.J. Augustin and Kemba Walker out of the lane.
- The Hawks look a lot different when Jeff Teague (ankle) is in the lineup to slow dribble penetration. Teague said he would be ready to go on Tuesday.
- Sloan (three assists, no turnovers) was steadier on offense than he was Monday. “I thought he did a good job stepping in for Jeff Teague in running the club,” Drew said.
- Brad Wanamaker played six ineffective minutes in the second quarter, turning the ball over three times, and then never saw the court again. Pape Sy wasn’t as aggressive as in the first game but played just 10 minutes.
- The Bobcats were able to finish at the rim but that was in spite of Josh Smith and Al Horford challenging everything at the basket (Walker is going to be a good one). Smith and Horford also led an energetic effort when the Hawks trapped.
- Zaza Pachulia was good on D, too. He stays in good position and challenges everything (if only he could jump higher those more of those would be blocked shots). He rebounds and gets to the line. Zaza quietly had a very good camp.
- Smith got what he wanted around the basket. I’m thinking the newly-slim frame and better health means we’ll see more of that this season. He’s so quick to the hole and even more explosive when he gets there.
- Joe Johnson had a bad shooting night (3 for 11) but it looked to me like he often was just working on his one-on-one moves. He had his hesitation game working and got to the line for six free-throw attempts. Joe also had five assists against two turnovers and a couple scrappy steals.
- Tracy McGrady looked a little livelier while getting to the free-throw line early. But Corey Maggette really took it to him at the other end and McGrady had to start fouling. McGrady also didn’t make a shot in three attempts and failed to record an assist in 14 minutes.
- It wasn’t a good camp for T-Mac. The Hawks have to hope he will dial it up when they need him.
- Vladimir Radmonovic (11 points on five shots) has shown a crafty show-and-go game from the 3-point line. He will drive to the basket and then look to pass or draw a foul. A couple of his four turnovers were a result of him zigging while his teammates zagged.
- “It’s going to take some time, especially with this short preseason,” Radmanovic said. “I have to learn some things on the run. I feel pretty comfortable with the system. It’s just a matter of figuring out some spots on the floor where I’m going to be open or make my teammates open.”
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zachdahater
December 23rd, 2011
12:49 am
START IVAN JOHNSON!!!!!!
Start him at SF NOOOOOW!!!!
I’M CONVINCED!!!
NO MATTER WHAT, even if you have to let go of someone, SIGN IVAN JOHNSON!! I would START HIM if I was the coach personally, or at least put him in the rotation. He’s like BIG BABY DAVIS!!! WHAT A FIND!! He’s EXACTLY what the Hawks needed. SCREW the feeling out process!! I’ve seen MORE MORE MORE than enough!
I like our bench this year. I’m not too salty about losing Jamal, once our bench gets more comfortable the scoring will come. WE HAVE DEFENSE, EVERYONE can defend now. EVERYONE can rebound now! EVERYONE can score!!
Keep Benson or Rolle as a backup. They are both pathetic, but we need extra bodies.
Keep Sloan over Wannamaker as an insurance backup. Sloan CAN’T GET AROUND SCREENS AT ALL, but he’s pretty quick and makes good decisions.
STACKHOUSE HASN’T MADE ONE JUMPER!! He was on NBAtv last year, he’s borderline retired!! LET HIM GO, we have Green, Mcgrady, and SY to back up Joe.
I think McGrady looked good tonight, he needs his legs on his jumpshot though. I love Radmanovic! He’s quicker than I thought, has decent defense, and GOOD VETERAN INSTINCTS! We get 3 point specialist with NO GLARING WEAKNESSES OR LIABILITIES!
Guys, forget Keith Bogans. Willie Green is as good as him, or a slight upgrade. Sure Bogans looked good in the playoffs, HE TOUGH, but he is NOT the solution to any of our problems that can’t so solved by Green, Sy, or T-MAC.
WE ARE SET as far as I’m concerned at the 1-4 positions. Hopefully we can get the CENTER we’ve been needing FOREVER next season. I’m not worried about Joe, shots didn’t fall. But I will say that he needs his 3 point shot to GO DOWN if he’s thinking of scoring 21 ppg again. LOOK. 3pt% DOWN last season = 18 ppg. ONE more 3 pointer a game = 20 to 22 ppg.
Go……HAWKS!!
hawks_4_life
December 23rd, 2011
12:52 am
Michael Pietrus is available
Grandmaster JeJe
December 23rd, 2011
12:53 am
So am I.
zachdahater
December 23rd, 2011
1:03 am
LEAVE JOSH SMITH ALONE!! (Chris Croker voice). He needs to take SOME jumpshots! He MUST develop a mid-range game. It is essential, it is imperative, and you naysayers are impeding his development. Garnett takes mid-rangers, Gasol does, Lopez, etc. He’s back off taking a lot of jumpshots, but take he can still stick to in rhythm jumpshots.
That being said, I have no idea why his post jumpshot is so TERRIBLE! When he turns around and shoots that little 5 – 10 foot jumper, it’s so wild. Other than that, if he stays in the post, I wouldn’t be surprised if he LEAD THE TEAM IN SCORING
keepinitreal
December 23rd, 2011
1:19 am
Ivan Johnson could be a diamond in the rough. Legit NBA body and put up big numbers in the
NBDL last year. Sure, it’s not great competition, but give I’ll always give more of a benefit of the doubt to a guy who’s proven he can produce than someone who looks like a great athlete but has never translated it into success on the court.
Here’s hoping this guy wins a roster spot.
Carrlos Lyles
December 23rd, 2011
1:20 am
sy does suck. if josh would stop fading when he shoots then he will make more of them i think that he knows his release is sooo slow that he has to fade to get it off rather than use his HOPS to jump when he shoots.. maybe him and horford shouldn’t be shooting partners. bad habits rub off..lol
The hawks communication sucks, its more pointing than anything..
I dnt see stack making the team. what does he bring besides a price tag?
mcgrady is there for ticket sale purposes only. im convinced.
Joe will have a breakout year. im calling it now..
RealFan
December 23rd, 2011
1:51 am
Don’t get me wrong I like Sloan, but if it comes down to Sy or Sloan, give me Sy. Sloan is great, but it sounds like he is going to be playing behind Pargo and Teague, and once we get Hinrich back he will be a fourth PG. Also while he is efficient with the ball, he is a pretty terrible defender. With Sy he can be a SF, SG, or possibly PG if the injury plaque hits us there. Right now two PGs will do until we get Hinrich back into the lineup. Order of players I would like to keep (assuming Pargo and Green make roster): Ivan (intensity), Benson (potential), Sy (potential), Rolle (like to see him when he’s in shape and not hurt), Sloan (great ast/to ratio), Stackhouse (veteran advise and leadership), Wanamaker (great defense, liability on offense).
Ivan "Mr. Hustle" Johnson
December 23rd, 2011
2:18 am
Hey LD, You better find a way for me to make this squad at least to challenge these guys in practice, plus you got to be intrigued by my quick hands and when my sweet mid range J
vava74
December 23rd, 2011
3:03 am
I found an interview with Ivan Johnson. It’s a must see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNgvNzeFpB0&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL440B485EB712F4E7
Vino
December 23rd, 2011
3:11 am
Ivan Johnson D league stats
2010-11 Playoff Statistics
PPG 23.0
RPG 9.0
APG 3.0
EFF +25.00
Top 2 in points with 31 mins playing time
Katie
December 23rd, 2011
3:21 am
zachdahater
December 23rd, 2011
1:03 am
LEAVE JOSH SMITH ALONE!! (Chris Croker voice). He needs to take SOME jumpshots! He MUST develop a mid-range game. It is essential, it is imperative, and you naysayers are impeding his development. Garnett takes mid-rangers, Gasol does, Lopez, etc. He’s back off taking a lot of jumpshots, but take he can still stick to in rhythm jumpshots.
That being said, I have no idea why his post jumpshot is so TERRIBLE! When he turns around and shoots that little 5 – 10 foot jumper, it’s so wild. Other than that, if he stays in the post, I wouldn’t be surprised if he LEAD THE TEAM IN SCORING
co-sign
Also, give Kito a chance. Now that he has a proper dietitian and work-out routine fit for his role in the NBA he’ll bulk up in no time. I think he really shows a lot of promise and gives our bench much needed depth.
Keep Johnson, of course, and Sloan.
I’m 50/50 on Rolle, I think he played well the other night and through an injury.
Waive good-bye to Stack and Wannamaker, and honestly, Sy as well.
tyrnado
December 23rd, 2011
3:42 am
why didn’t we jump on dalembert!!?
kiss the hawks rears
December 23rd, 2011
3:48 am
Ho Ho Ho Merry christmas from u owners who will enjoy a 23-43 year here…of empty seats n no one will care i still want folks wear thrashers jersey if u feel ASG screwd us(which did) if not then you morons in atlanta did deserve lose another hockey team…Josh smith will hide all season McGrady be like the hospital never show up…and the owners will do the Three stooges look of what me worry!
kiss the hawks rears
December 23rd, 2011
3:58 am
Do u folks really think we need a True center and yet Orlando center wants out traded we sit on toilet flushin is why Hawks will be 23-43 this season The La clippers will win the there divison this year and Miami will make finals and lose to Dallas again n Mavs will have another NBA title just be .The clippers will play dallas for western conf Title and lose in seven games to dallas and Miami will kill off the boston in six games!
vava74
December 23rd, 2011
4:19 am
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Ivan-Johnson-5437/playerblog/
vava74
December 23rd, 2011
4:23 am
Having seen him play two exhibition games at low-NBA level, it seems that Ivan has improved on his worst area, as reported on draftexpress: D
He had 3 steals yesterday showing that middling NBA talent will have trouble putting the ball on the floor around him.
Obviously, he will be over-matched by superior talent and bigger players but this is the type of guy which we know will bring his A game every single day whenever he gets the call up for a 3 minute stint or for a 10 minute one.
If we cut this man, we will be doing an horrible mistake and showing the wrong type of the example to the locker-room:
instead of “hard work is rewarded with opportunities” it will state “hard work means nothing, only the pecking order stands”.
vava74
December 23rd, 2011
4:28 am
Not many guys can put 46 points on the board:
http://www.nba.com/dleague/games/boxscore.jsp?gameId=2021000167
vava74
December 23rd, 2011
4:41 am
More on Ivan “the Terrible” Johnson:
“Perhaps no former Duck is having a more impressive season than Ivan Johnson, the temperamental 6-foot-8 power forward who played a single season for Oregon (2005-06) before coach Ernie Kent did not renew his scholarship, citing the distraction caused by Johnson’s disciplinary issues, mostly related to anger management.
Johnson finished his collegiate career at Division II Cal State-San Bernardino in 2007 and then played for two NBA D-League teams before playing in South Korea. However, once again, anger-management issues got the best of him — Johnson was suspended, fined, and banned for life from the Korean Basketball League last April for making an obscene gesture at a referee.
It wasn’t a first offense, the Korean Times reported. “Taking action against Johnson was inevitable since he had a record of frequent misconducts in the past,” a KBL official told the Times.
In November, the Erie BayHawks, the D-League franchise in Erie, Penn., made Johnson the No. 15 pick in the league’s draft. Within the BayHawks’ first nine games, he had five technical fouls and an ejection. But Johnson’s talent is unquestioned; through Sunday, he was the BayHawks’ leading scorer, and the No. 6 scorer in D-League, averaging 19.9 points, 7.4 rebounds and 33 minutes per game.
In 27 games, Johnson has six double-doubles, with 46 points, a franchise record, against the Maine Red Claws in a game in which he was 17-of-22 from the field and 12-of-13 from the free-throw line. Johnson scored 29 and 39 recently in consecutive games against the Fort Wayne Mad Ants.
His play, if not his deportment, should have him on the NBA radar.”
Basically, with this kind of record, this sad sack franchise will certainly not sign him.
And it’s a shame. It’s about time that we had another enforcer down low.
This guy and Zaza plus a shot-blocker (to compensate the lack of height/reach by both) would make our second team work really well IMO.
vava74
December 23rd, 2011
4:43 am
Anger management problems and obscene gestures to the public!!!
PERFECT! EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED!!!! A talented thug!!!
SIGN IVAN!!! SIGN IVAN!!! SIGN IVAN!!! SIGN IVAN!!!
(this is the same guy that on the 16th of December scrimmage decked Teague with a solid (but legal) pick!!!
WE NEED IVAN!!!!
vava74
December 23rd, 2011
5:30 am
NBA boxscore is wrong: he had 3 steals last night, adding up to the 2 he had on Monday.
Buddy Grizzard
December 23rd, 2011
5:38 am
MC please save post from the blog monster.
KevinM
December 23rd, 2011
6:02 am
I am shocked that Sund even gave this guy a look with his checkerboard background. When has ANYONE on this team been cited for disciplinary issues and ‘waving’ to the crowd?
Besides the one Joe Johnson mulligan with his verbal feelings towards the fan base?
Buddy Grizzard
December 23rd, 2011
6:05 am
Vava with the excellent research. Don’t care if he’s got baggage… we need ballers not choir boys.
Buddy Grizzard
December 23rd, 2011
6:08 am
I found an interview with Ivan Johnson. It’s a must see: – vava
lol!
KevinM
December 23rd, 2011
6:10 am
Kudos to MC for his tireless blogging these last 2 weeks…..I’m trying to keep up with him…he is in mid-season form.
And Chuck Hayes looking for a team……a team with a TPE exception?
Toughen this backline up Sund! Any teams out there need a SF to bring you up to the cap minimum? We’ve got a #24 that needs a new home.
Just Joe
December 23rd, 2011
6:23 am
Rolle got the last five minutes of the game. Either he was a lock to make the team, or a lock to get cut. My guess is that he was set to make the team, but Ivan Johnson could have just taken his spot. No need for both players.
Benson and Sy both stick. Not Sloan or Wannamaker.
drmaryb.[*_*].
December 23rd, 2011
7:15 am
Ivan the Great!
Sign me up! We need a crazy man on this team. They said the same things about the HOF er, Dennis Rodman and Ron Artest … more blah … MJ and Kobe won championship rings with both those guys.
Perhaps we can “Tebow” Ivan and march on Phillips Arena in protest – If Sund does not sign this player to help fight our battles. Put a “crazy clause” in his contract and let’s roll!
Ryan
December 23rd, 2011
7:32 am
This is Jeff Teague’s team if he wants it. Wanamaker looked good in that scrimmage but not against the bobcats
doc
December 23rd, 2011
7:46 am
vava … very imaginative.
doc
December 23rd, 2011
7:49 am
seems like ivan is just a few years too late as he would have been perfect for the blazers of old. i hope he has gotten over this stuff to help here, he has talent.
Just Joe
December 23rd, 2011
8:04 am
So, in the East, Ivan Johnson will be our counter-punch to Brandon Bass, Udonis Haslem, Glen Davis, Taj Gibson, Tyler Hansbrough, Drew Gooden, and (not sure who New York & Philly have in that role).
He appears to be active enough.
northcyde
December 23rd, 2011
8:09 am
Watch . . . Sund won’t sign Ivan ( because of payroll constraints ), sending the miniscule loyal fan base into a homicidal rage.
We’re not cutting Pargo or Green, because we do need some PGs ( even though neither are true PGs ). And the Hawks spent a lot of money buying out Sy, so they won’t just throw them by the wayside. Plus, if T-Mac is still sleepwalking, we do need either a defensive backup SG or SF, which Sy will serve as.
PG: Teague – Pargo – Green
G: J. Johnson – Hinrch – Sy
F: Marvin – McGrady
PF: Smith – Radmanovic
C: Horford – Zaza – Collins
That’s 13 folks. We don’t add a 14th, if it will send us into the Luxury Tax.
Not getting my hopes up for Ivan Johnson to be on the roster. So get ready to cuss out Gearon ( since you’re the face of the ownership group ) if Ivan doesn’t make this team.
LOL . . what a Christmas present that will be. Refuse to sign the one minimum contract guy that looked good in preseason.
Mike is Back
December 23rd, 2011
8:12 am
Ivan Johnson, is just the type of player we need…he’s a Reggie Evans type with offensive skills…it don’t get no better than that…if you are the cash strapped ASG.
We need his energy off the bench…I know it’s only the Bobcats…but I’m thinking the Hawks made have gotten a steal in Johnson.
Vava, great stuff on Johnson…WE NEED A GUY…that’s not afraid of physical play in the post…SUND pleeeeeeeease sign the ANIMAL.lol
STRETCH
December 23rd, 2011
8:48 am
hawks_4_life
Pietrus would be the guy i go and get. Need another guy that can knock down the 3. But i dont think it will happen, lets hope so!
Anyway, anyone know anything about the Willie Green guy???
Rod "straight outta Augusta" Johnson
December 23rd, 2011
8:53 am
Its time to cut the Benson, Sy, Stackhouse, and Wanamaker experiments. These guys are not cut out for the NBA and it shows. Stackhouse is done. If dude is looking for a check or we just need a veteran present, lets sign him as the teams water boy. He can motivate and inspire while passing out water and sweat towels. I would rather run with a roster minimum of 13. That means we would have more money to sign someone else with a little more upside. Just my opinion. Atlanta has to stop penny pinching. I totally agree with Owner Geron, if this does not work this year….it is time to blow the roster. We have to start over, but we need to be smart about it. Lets start over with Teague/Horford and build from there.
doc
December 23rd, 2011
9:00 am
probably rather have pietrus than t mac as he has a bit more going for him unless he has gone donw fast. he had to give the suns a reason to cut him so maybe he has deteriorated. i just think t mac is a joe smith type in his career and will provide nothing from what has been sen thus far. i wasnt enamored with the signing at the get go. it was only showing how far we are on players depth charts or how tough due to budget it was going to be to fill out a roster. main plus pick up thus far is vlad it seems as a player not an icon.
STRETCH
December 23rd, 2011
9:04 am
Mickael Pietrus, recently released by the Phoenix Suns, is leaning “heavily” towards signing with the Boston Celtics, according to a league source. Pietrus must first clear waivers — that won’t happen until 6 p.m. Saturday — but it’s highly unlikely that any team will want to pick up the $5.3 million he is owed this season. CSNNE.com
Well, so much for that!
hawks_4_life
December 23rd, 2011
9:09 am
Stretch,
Only thing I remember about Willie Green was that the year prior to going into the draft he was project as a top 5 pick. He ended up getting picked in the second round I believe to the Clippers but never quite busted into the line up. Looks like we are not only trying to move on from Crawford but getting ready for like without Captain Kirk also.
hawks_4_life
December 23rd, 2011
9:15 am
Sorry thinking of someone else, disregard
Big Dog
December 23rd, 2011
9:21 am
Maybe the effort from Johnson will rub off on Horford and he may start, at some point to play SOME DEFENSE!
Big Ray
December 23rd, 2011
9:27 am
Radmanovich has a quality that some people forget Zaza also has, and that goes unnoticed until you pay attention to the nuances of the game – he plays pretty smart. The difference between him and Zaza is shooting range and ball-handling ability. Vlad is better at both. He’s going to help the team whenever he’s in the game for just that reason – smart doesn’t require that you be healthy vs. injured or that you be in a good mood or bad. You can ALWAYS play smart.
Both guys are challenged in the athletic department, but I’ll take a guy who gets his own rebound (Zaza) and at least “gets in the way” on defense over a guy who can run end to end faster than anybody, but doesn’t make the effort. On the flip side of things, Vlad gets steals with his quick hands and long arms, and makes good passes (and shots) from the perimeter.
Both guys will help, and will probably play very well in games together. This could be better than imagined, though not a world-beater combination.
I say we sign Ivan Johnson. He’s like a cross between a poor man’s Brandon Bass and Anthony Mason or something. I’ll take it….
Wannamaker/Sloan – wouldn’t mind seeing Sloan stick with the team but he wouldn’t get any PT. Teague seems ok with his ankle, and Pargo can defend. Plus, Hinrich will return = no place for Sloan. Never was impressed with Wannamakaturnover.
Big Ray
December 23rd, 2011
9:29 am
Northcyde ,
You depress me greatly with your 8:09 post, but I know you’re only telling the truth, bro’.
Mike is Back
December 23rd, 2011
9:43 am
Doc, not to make excuses for Tmack…but it didn’t help Tmack cause for him to have to guard one of the Top scorer on the Bobcats Team…that was just a bad matchup.
I think we will see Tmack value at the end of games…when are trying to close teams out…I didn’t expect him to go all out in the preseason.
Traditionally, the Hawks have fell apart when things got tight at the end of games…Tmack will get some calls from the Refs…JJ never could…he has been in bigger games than JJ ever have…I think that was the biggest reason we signed Tmack…plus it was for the league minimum…I sure Tmack had a couple of other teams interested in his service.
I still think Tmack was a good pickup…now that we have signed two vets at PG and SG…LD will have more flexibility on when to play Tmack. Hopefully, we want see Tmack guarding the opposition’s top scorers in the regular season…THAT”S just asking too much of Tmack…at this point of his career.
BigTimeTECHFan
December 23rd, 2011
9:44 am
ATL fans love nasty Basketball
Ivan Johnson would be a star in ATL, even as role player.
When are final rosters set?
Huh
December 23rd, 2011
9:57 am
“he has been in bigger games than JJ ever have”
T-Mac has never even been to the 2nd round. This makes no sense
PEDRO EL GITANO
December 23rd, 2011
9:57 am
Ahi va mi lista:
PG:HINRICH-TEAGUE-SLOAN
SG:JOE JOHNSON-GREEN-PARGO
SF:MacGRADY-IVAN JOHNSON-WILLIAMS
PF:JOSH SMITH-RADMANOVIC
C:HORFORD-PACHULIA-COLLINS
Pido encarecidamente contrato para Ivan.Por otro lado no me importa lo que hagan con Benson y Rolle,no estan preparados y tampoco hay tiempo para enseñarles a ser agresivos y muscularlos.Sy me parece un talento fisico,pero creo que no es digno aun de jugar para nosotros.Lo de Stackhouse quedo en una bonita historia,me gusto verle vestido de corto nuevamente,pero se acabo.Creo que con esta plantilla solo Chicago y New York pueden competir en calidad,estoy expectante.Tambien creo que Radman nos va ayudar mucho,me ha sorprendido ver lo buen defensor que puede ser.Sera una temporada muy divertida,y estos chicos nos haran sentir orgullosos y entusiasmados.Ahora,vuelvo a insistir:si lo que queremos es ganar un campeonato jamas se podra hacer con los lastres de JJ y Marvin.De todas maneras es hora de disfrutar!!un abrazo!!!
Ken Strickland
December 23rd, 2011
10:03 am
If Ivan Johnson is signed, but not added to the active roster, will some of you go overboard bashing Sund and the ASG? Some of you carry on as if you just found out about the ASGs money issues and/or unwillingness to play a luxury tax. The injury to Nets center BLopez should help us get off to a good start. We could be 4-0 before we start that brutal 6gm stretch where we play the Heat and Bulls 4 of those gms.
I believe Sloan will be signed and added to the inactive roster, because he’s already had a dominant stint in the D-league and we need that extra PG in case of injury. Johnson has proven he’s NBA ready, so he won’t be sent to the D-League. I believe Benson will be send down. He doesn’t seem to be intimidated or overwhelmed at this level mentally, but physically is another matter.
Smith.Leuer.Bogut
December 23rd, 2011
10:04 am
In the past year
We missed out on Pietrus
We missed out on Okur (2015 pick?)
We missed out on Malcolm Thomas
We missed out on Motiejunas
We missed out on Leuer
We’re missing out on Al Thornton
We’re missing out on the Finals. Period.
Horford+pick for Bogut and Leuer for the playoffs. My eye is solely on the playoffs. SOUL-ly. If its not in your heart dont do it. SMH at Al slobbing on Ivan Johnson’s knob. Seems like he wants Ivan to take his 5 spot.
Smith.Leuer.Bogut
December 23rd, 2011
10:16 am
ATL fans love nasty Basketball
Andrew Bogut would be a star in ATL, even as role player.
What?
When is ASG going to get it done in the East?
beejayrufino
December 23rd, 2011
10:32 am
keep Ivan Johnson, Pape Sy, Jerry Stackhouse and Keith Benson