Atlanta Hawks: Camp Report Day 7

It appears the Hawks are in no hurry to add another veteran guard. And if Kirk Hinrich continues his quick recovery from shoulder surgery, Larry Drew said there’s a chance they may try to get by with that they have until he returns to the lineup.

“It sounds like he is healing pretty good,” Drew said today. “From my understanding, he is ahead of schedule, and that is a good thing. He wants to hurry up and get back but we have got to let this thing take its course. It’s something you can’t rush. Those type injuries they could really set you back.”

Hinrich had the procedure in early November and the Hawks said he would be out 3-4 months. He’s been shooting baskets but still doesn’t have full range of motion and hasn’t been cleared to run.

Drew said the Hawks inquired about free agent point guard Carlos Arroyo but were told he’s playing elsewhere. He said there have been internal discussions about Gilbert Arenas and other free agents but “right now we are not making decisions on any of those guys.”

So it’s possible the Hawks could start the season without adding another vet guard and patch it together while Hinrich mends.

“We’ve talked about that as a [coaching] staff and management,” Drew said. “But timetable-wise there is no guarantee when he is going to come back. It’s not like we know, ‘Exactly this date,’ and know what we are working with. We’ve got to make a decision from that point. Do we try to keep our head above water until he gets back or do we get some help? Right now we are going to go with what we have and if something falls through the cracks we will take a look.”

Right now at point guard the Hawks have Jeff Teague and Pape Sy plus camp invitees Brad Wanamaker and Donald Sloan. The shooting guards are veterans Joe Johnson and Tracy McGrady as well as camp invitees Zach Graham and Jerry Stackhouse. Sy and Wanamaker also can play there, and Drew said even Marvin Williams could spot minutes at shooting guard.

You can see that without Hinrich available to play both guard spots there’s not much depth at all, much less guys the Hawks can be certain will be productive and reliable. It spills over to small forward, too, where there is no real backup for Williams. McGrady, Johnson and Josh Smith can fill in there.

Camp report

  • Rick Sund can sign another veteran to a minimum deal. I’m not certain if that would cause the Hawks to dip their toe across the luxury-tax line. They likely will end up with enough non-guaranteed contracts on the roster that they can make some adjustments later to avoid a year-end tax bill.
  • Drew will have the ability to send out some very big lineups. How about McGrady, Johnson, Smith, Al Horford and Jason Collins or McGrady, Johnson, Williams, Smith, and Horford? “There are some different combinations I can use,” Drew said.
  • Drew said Sy “has come a long ways as far as improvement,” called Wanamaker “a heady player” and still sounds like he’d like to keep Stackhouse: “He’s had a good camp so far.”
  • As you probably heard by now, Jamal Crawford signed with Portland. It turns out he could have been had for the mid-level.
  • The Hawks weren’t scrimmaging when media types were let in today but reports say Magnum Rolle has looked pretty good. Word is he’s playing much more aggressively than he did during last season’s Hawks practices and the June minicamp. Atlanta, of course, could use another true big in the rotation behind Al Horford, Zaza Pachulia, Jason Collins and Smith.
  • Drew said McGrady sat out yesterday with a sore arm. He was back on the court today.
  • Drew said there will be a short practice tomorrow followed by a 45-minute scrimmage. The public event starts at 7:30 7 p.m. at Philips Arena.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

350 comments Add your comment

Slimjr

December 16th, 2011
7:43 pm

Split your screen and Watch both streams at the same time…

Bulls game on the left and the Hawks scrimmage on the right!! Awesome baby!

I’m running windows 7! Awesome baby!

Slimjr

December 16th, 2011
7:45 pm

Marvin looks like somebody else.. He is upright!!!!! lol

doc

December 16th, 2011
7:46 pm

joe,jeff, etal

Might start rooting for LAC

• Yes, I’m fully aware that Vinny Del Negro is prominently involved in the 2011-12 Clippers season.
Elephant, meet room.

very funny but it used to be white elephant because their isnt one and that is glaring to overlook it and not being descriminatory. vinny may be over his head and paul might just out him.

i dont like the idea of suppoting anything sterling has his hands on ubfortunately as it might be a pretty good club.

is vava still talking about jc1? let him go!

Slimjr

December 16th, 2011
7:47 pm

Josh just hit a 22 footer! looked easy and smooth.

Joe looks great!!!

Rod from College Park

December 16th, 2011
7:49 pm

All jumpsots. Same Hawks. At least they all falling

Melvin

December 16th, 2011
7:49 pm

Either there is something wrong with my video feed or these guys (Hawks) are shooting lights out for about 2 mins straight…

BoneKollector

December 16th, 2011
7:51 pm

Am I the only one who can’t hear anything????

Joe.Jeff.Smith.Leuer.Bogut

December 16th, 2011
7:52 pm

Let the record show Sautee and Ken Strickland think the glass is half or 9/10s full with the current roster.

So don’t complain when Marvin doesnt step up and neither does Horford. Lets see if Josh can carry the pitiful Hawks frontline to the NBA Finals or East Finals.

And everyone will laugh at Hawks fans when Smith goes and wins elsewhere. For years, who will come to a Hawks team that chased away its own homegrown products.
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Live stream…. Teague with the throwaway. Joe Johnson with the post up fadeaway. Nuttin but net.

Slimjr

December 16th, 2011
7:52 pm

HAHAHA..just a scrimmage Melvin..lol

18-4 1st 22 games.. This Hawks team is gonna be pretty good..

Going to surprise a few people out there!

Rod from College Park

December 16th, 2011
7:53 pm

Marvin’s still invisible and Josh still thinks he is Larry Bird. Nothing new here. Stackhouse looks good.

J.J.M.

December 16th, 2011
7:54 pm

lmao t-mac you not athletic anymore!

Joe.Jeff.Smith.Leuer.Bogut

December 16th, 2011
7:55 pm

Poor T-Mac shouldve just shot the 3 or pulled up. airball reverse layup.

Horford at center hits fadeaway over slower Zaza.

Marvin bricks… Long.

BoneKollector

December 16th, 2011
7:55 pm

So im the only one with volume issues on the feed?

Slimjr

December 16th, 2011
7:56 pm

I can hardly hear the sound and its turned all the way up..NBA.com problem? Its not your computer Sir..

FreshFromATL

December 16th, 2011
7:56 pm

LMAO @ T-Mac trying to throw it off the backboard…

J.J.M.

December 16th, 2011
7:56 pm

yea its super low my speakers are all the way up

Joe.Jeff.Smith.Leuer.Bogut

December 16th, 2011
7:57 pm

@Slimjr its not how you begin its how you finish.

Josh looking like Skinny Z-Bo. Horford invisible. TRADE HORFORD.

Melvin

December 16th, 2011
7:57 pm

Josh jumper looks much smoother. He got rid of that hitch in his jumpshot.

Slimjr

December 16th, 2011
7:57 pm

Bulls game is coming in loud and clear though on the left side of my screen..

BoneKollector

December 16th, 2011
7:57 pm

ok i thought it was just my pc

FreshFromATL

December 16th, 2011
7:57 pm

Josh jumpers are wet..#12 Donald Sloan doesn’t look bad…

Joe.Jeff.Smith.Leuer.Bogut

December 16th, 2011
7:58 pm

Starvin Marvin with the floater in the paint. 6th man of the year?

Melvin

December 16th, 2011
7:58 pm

Big AL with the crossover. That’s a new move for him….

FreshFromATL

December 16th, 2011
7:59 pm

Safe to say Joe is back…dude is hitting from everywhere…

Hawks knocking down free throws as well…

Slimjr

December 16th, 2011
8:01 pm

C’mon Marvin eat up those little pip squeaks this year DUDE!!!!! 6th man! lol

Joe.Jeff.Smith.Leuer.Bogut

December 16th, 2011
8:01 pm

Horford at the FT line? What happened Magnum Wrapper?

Guard/Josh turnover in a weak post entry.

BoneKollector

December 16th, 2011
8:01 pm

Damn they just had to mess up the hawks broadcast with volume issues smh

Slimjr

December 16th, 2011
8:01 pm

Joe is looking GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEat

doc

December 16th, 2011
8:02 pm

slim seriously?

Slimjr

December 16th, 2011
8:02 pm

#24 look like a new player? lol

superiorblogman

December 16th, 2011
8:03 pm

Pape Sy looks like shi.. Wannamaker looks better

Slimjr

December 16th, 2011
8:03 pm

ISO is ready!

Joe.Jeff.Smith.Leuer.Bogut

December 16th, 2011
8:04 pm

Josh should have taken T-Mac to LA with him for conditioning… Or maybe T-Mac would have been a negative influence…

vava74

December 16th, 2011
8:05 pm

T-Mac is done, kaput, wrap him up and put him on a sarcophagus…

Slimjr

December 16th, 2011
8:05 pm

Dayum! Who is the RED-BONE???? Ah carumba!

BoneKollector

December 16th, 2011
8:06 pm

I have a feeling this will be Marvin’s break out year

I mean I seriously think it was a back problem that slowed his production. Becuz just look at his Jumpshot. Its almost perfect form. The only reason he was so off b4 was obviously becuz of his back.

Sautee

December 16th, 2011
8:06 pm

Flavor Flav,

“Let the record show Sautee and Ken Strickland think the glass is half or 9/10s full with the current roster.”

Let the record show that just because I think YOUR glass is 9/10ths empty that it doesn’t necessarily mean the opposite is true. I’m about 50/50 and wait and see on this bunch. But still, I’ll praise ‘em when they excel, and trash them when they suck.

Faulty logic, Flavor Flav. Not surprising though. You are excellent at that.

Slimjr

December 16th, 2011
8:06 pm

put some #’s on them girls backs….

FreshFromATL

December 16th, 2011
8:08 pm

-Stackhouse can still contribute…
-Hawks are not really pushing the tempo…which may be by design since they play on Monday and this is just a scrimmage…
-The team as a whole are hitting their free throws…
-The team as a whole is hitting their shots…

Joe.Jeff.Smith.Leuer.Bogut

December 16th, 2011
8:08 pm

Slimjr chill out thats my sister bruh… Just kidding.

superiorblogman

December 16th, 2011
8:08 pm

Teague seams to be coming off the picks slower which is really good. The game has slowed for him, time for beast mode from the Teaguer

FreshFromATL

December 16th, 2011
8:09 pm

Nice drive Teague…

Joe.Jeff.Smith.Leuer.Bogut

December 16th, 2011
8:10 pm

More like Chuck D.

Slimjr

December 16th, 2011
8:10 pm

Sautee

December 16th, 2011
8:10 pm

“@Slimjr its not how you begin its how you finish”

Which tells you just why Flavor Flav is commenting negatively on a pre-season scrimmage.

LMFAO

FreshFromATL

December 16th, 2011
8:10 pm

Teague is starting to push the tempo now…dude is quick as hell…

Melvin

December 16th, 2011
8:10 pm

Teague make everyone else look as if they are moving in slow motion….

Slimjr

December 16th, 2011
8:11 pm

Man if Teague had CP3’s jumpshot!!!

Keep shooting Jeff!

BoneKollector

December 16th, 2011
8:13 pm

Tmac out there looking like Larry Holmes when he fought Tyson

Joe.Jeff.Smith.Leuer.Bogut

December 16th, 2011
8:14 pm

MMM look at Teague run against that Radmanovic defense.

Horford are you kidding me with that hook shot.

Teague not forcing the double and giving the ball on the break to Magnum Rolle in the middle?

With his size Horford sometimes runs the break better than Teague. If Horford were an inch or two shorter he could have been a great forward.