Atlanta Hawks: Camp roster rounds into shape
Zaza and Magnum Rolle were at Philips today. Twin is expected to re-sign with the Hawks tomorrow. Earl Watson told Jody Genessy of the Deseret News he hasn’t decided where he will sign.
So, assuming T-Mac and Twin follow through and sign with the Hawks and Watson ends up picking Atlanta, this is what the team depth chart would look like for the start of camp (not counting Kirk Hinrich):
PG–Jeff Teague/Earl Watson/Pape Sy
SG–Joe Johnson/Tracy McGrady/Brad Wanamaker
SF–Marvin Williams/Tracy McGrady
PF–Josh Smith/Magnum Rolle
C–Al Horford/Zaza Pachulia/Jason Collins/Keith Benson
That’s 14 players on the roster, 10 of whom have guaranteed contracts.
Still don’t see any of the “knock-down 3-point shooters” L.D. said he wants. Twin, when deployed in favorable matchups, ended up providing some of the defensive toughness L.D. is seeking and T-Mac is a pretty good defender and very good rebounder: According to Hoopdata, last season he was seventh in defensive rebound rate among shooting guards who played at least 15 minutes.
But so far it looks like the Hawks haven’t addressed two of their main concerns. Stay tuned.
Etc.
- I don’t think there will be a sign-and-trade with Chicago for Jamal. The Hawks aren’t looking to take on the kind of salary the matching rules require and the Bulls are focused on using their MLE to sign a free agent.
- Zaza said he’s fully recovered from the left calf injury he suffered during FIBA play and aggravated while playing in Turkey.
- It looks like Damien is not in the Hawks’ plans.
- Word is Hinrich will be at camp tomorrow to continue his rehab.
- Rob Mahoney, writing for ProBasketballTalk, endorses the T-Mac signing: “For the league minimum, this is very likely the best the Hawks could possibly do.”
- AJC wise guy Jeff Schultz does not like a T-Mac-for-Jamal swap: “It’s a good sign if McGrady’s addition is meant only to add depth on the bench. It’s a bad sign if his signing is intended to soften the blow for the possible loss of Jamal Crawford.”
- Hawks blog legend Sekou predicts “this is the year the Hawks hit the skids.”
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Big Dog
December 8th, 2011
8:53 pm
*the hawks lost
Grandmaster JeJe
December 8th, 2011
8:59 pm
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW THIS “LEAGUE-OWNED HORNETS” THING WORKS? HOW ARE THEIR SALARIES PAID?
OWNERS ARE IRATE LOL
kwooden
December 8th, 2011
9:00 pm
Grandmaster JeJe, this is why the NBA has really problems. Houston doesn’t even get close to better by the deal, their only really incentive to do this deal is cap space for next year. I understand the Lakers want to be better but the owner can’t just flush part of the season and still have a system that allows these things to happen. What is Stern going to do? Nothing, because the Lakers being good is good for BUSINESS!
Just Joe
December 8th, 2011
9:01 pm
Hawks may be bringing Charles Garcia in to camp? Averaged 28 & 8 in his first couple of d-league games this year. 6′10″ PF.
bobbyc
December 8th, 2011
9:03 pm
I wonder if the Hawks can trade Zaza to the Magic for J.J Redick. and there is ur outside threat.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 8th, 2011
9:05 pm
The NBA owners just vetoed the CP3 trade. LMAO this s like fantasy basketball in more ways than one at this point.
kwooden
December 8th, 2011
9:06 pm
Wojnarowski, is reporting that the owners are trying or have stopped the Paul deal. I understand the Lakers are going to do what they have to do, but the real problem is a system that forces teams to dump players just to get better. The system should encourage teams to developer players not, just try to mix and match. If they want to have a mix and match league, they should have gone to the NFL system where you never know who’s on your team from year to year.
GO HAWKS!
Grandmaster JeJe
December 8th, 2011
9:07 pm
“I wonder if the Hawks can trade Zaza to the Magic for J.J Redick. and there is ur outside threat.”
If that happens, our toughest player on this roster is probably Jason Collins.
No Thanks.
Grandmaster JeJe
December 8th, 2011
9:13 pm
WE NEED TO SHOP AROUND JOSH IF HE IS UNHAPPY. HE IS NEVER GONNA GROW UP.
SMOOVE + HINRICH
SHOP AROUND
Melvin
December 8th, 2011
9:17 pm
I guess Stern is a Knicks fan….LOL
” NBA owners have pushed commissioner David Stern to kill the deal sending Chris Paul to the Los Angeles Lakers, sources tell Y! Sports.”
Rufus1
December 8th, 2011
9:18 pm
Houston got robbed…
All they got was Gasol….I don’t get it. The Lakers gave up the equivalent of the Hawks trading Josh and Al for CP3….. N.O.made a great deal for their teams future.
The Lakers won with overwhelming size and they just traded it all of it away for a PG with bad knees…Only a few teams can take that kind of risk and the Hawks aren’t one of them.
Grandmaster JeJe
December 8th, 2011
9:20 pm
Rufus1,
Lakers are SCREWED if Bynum gets hurt. He is already out first 5 games with that suspension. They are razor-thin in front court (I think). Who are they gonna back up Bynum with? THEO RATLIFF?
With that said, Bynum + pick/Bynum + Artest should land Dwight IF Dwight demands a trade
Rufus1
December 8th, 2011
9:24 pm
JeJe
That will make them slightly better than last years Magic. No front line help and no bench.
Big Ray
December 8th, 2011
9:31 pm
“I think we are in a great position because we have guys that have been together for a long time. There’s no chemistry building or anything like that. I think that is definitely a positive.”
Translation: Marvin still has no clue. Being together a long time and having good chemistry are two different things. The Hatfields and McCoys knew each other for a long time. And that’s what our team has looked like on the court at times, and certainly during post game media interviews….
I don’t think there will be a sign-and-trade with Chicago for Jamal. The Hawks aren’t looking to take on the kind of salary the matching rules require and the Bulls are focused on using their MLE to sign a free agent.
Translation: Jeff Schultz sniffed it out – T-Mac is Jamal’s cheaply paid replacement, folks. Get used to it.
Still don’t see any of the “knock-down 3-point shooters” L.D. said he wants.
Translation: The organization is not listening to the head coach that they hired. No surprise there.
superiorblogman
December 8th, 2011
9:33 pm
I repeat, the lockout was all about finding ways to increase the entertainment value. Now, tell me you aren’t entertained by what is currently going on with Paul and the owners protesting against this trade. It’s the good guys against the bad guys fellas. Never had anything to do with any of those lies the owners and Stern told. They just want to create hype to see how strong they can get when they come back this time. It’s working fellas. Isn’t it MC?
Big Ray
December 8th, 2011
9:33 pm
“Whoever wants to talk I’m willing to listen,” Crawford said in response to a message asking him which is his preferred destination. “[T]hat’s what happens when [your] own team is confused.”
Sorry, Jamal. It might have been different if the pizza man would have been allowed to deliver. Brought to you by another ASG bungled deal….
Grandmaster JeJe
December 8th, 2011
9:33 pm
We have 3 point shooters.
Joe (hopefully improved), T-Mac, Hinrich, Marvin (last year was an anomaly for Marvin. I believe he added the 3 pt shot 2 years ago?)
Astro Joe
December 8th, 2011
9:38 pm
I wonder if the Hawks will use the Childress exception?
Section 303
December 8th, 2011
9:39 pm
Ra’mon, Sekou roots for Michigan in football, not Michigan St. Steve Smith gives him sh#t all the time.
Ra’mon, you must be a big Dawg fan?
Big Ray
December 8th, 2011
9:40 pm
Looks to me like owners are still stung by Queen James and his BS act last year (dragging Mrs. Bosh along with him).
So to get back, they veto the CP3 trade. Would they have done it if he were headed anywhere else? He is going to be a mad a$$ if he’s stuck in New Orleans….
Big Ray
December 8th, 2011
9:41 pm
AJ ,
Heh…mayhaps you should send them a note and remind them of it…
Section 303
December 8th, 2011
9:42 pm
I think it’s funny the Paul trade got blocked. I’m not so sure it was a good deal for the Lakers. Paul’s knees are ready to go at any moment. If he would have went down, could have been trouble.
Although, Michael tweeted (or re-tweeted from someone else) that the Lakers would have landed two exceptions in the deal. The first was for 8.7 million. So, maybe this is why the league stepped in?
drmaryb.[*_*].
December 8th, 2011
9:43 pm
Sticks and Rocks!
We so po our Daddy re-wraps our old toys from 6 years ago. That’s why we hate Christmas – we already know what’s under the tree.
Our friends get PS3’s, CP3’s, Superman Dolls and Jordans. Meanwhile, back at The Little House on The Prairie … We chunking sticks and rocks. That’s why nobody wants to come and play with us!
We get nothing! Aye Sund! Pack your backs and just leave us alone, take Drew and ASKG with you! I will drive you to:
Hartsfield – Marynard – Jackson – Martin Luther King International Airport!
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EmirS baby! You had me at hello. I Loved You before you were born! LOL! MMmmwah!
Harry Hawk
December 8th, 2011
9:43 pm
I don’t blame the league for stopping the trade, but it sure looks funny when a league-owned team makes a deal that the league disapproves of. I guess Dell Demps really was autonomous…to a point.
Grandmaster JeJe
December 8th, 2011
9:44 pm
I wonder if BASG was involved in the backlash of the CP3 trade or if the rest of the owners even paid attention to what our brilliant head owner Michael Gearon Jr had to say
Section 303
December 8th, 2011
9:46 pm
My problem with Michael’s depthchart…way too many minutes for T-Mac. He will not hold up with that kind of workload. Gotta get someone else in here to take minutes for Joe and Marvin.
Durrell Summers has been doing well for the Maine Red Claws. Just sayin’!
FreshFromATL
December 8th, 2011
9:49 pm
LMAO…You cannot make this stuff up.
Astro Joe
December 8th, 2011
9:58 pm
Well, Khloe is relieved.
I MUS WRITE
December 8th, 2011
10:00 pm
Same ol song and dance …..Mcgrady replaces jamal off the bench and Rolle is the new josh powell. The Russian owner (Nets) laughs at your luxury tax. Gold Giraffe walking on treadmill
Wabe
December 8th, 2011
10:00 pm
Sparty Darrel Summers…
Dude’s decent. Athletic beyond athletic. I still remember him dunkin on sticks in the UCONN game a couple years back when they made that run to the finals.
As for the trade being nullified, good.
Tired of these whiny NBA bum players dictating where they’ll play. They suck the fun out of it for the majority of the NBA fanbases and leave the NBA a top-heavy circus.
Ra'mon
December 8th, 2011
10:02 pm
Section, I’m a Dogs’ fan.
And I know on his Twitter avatar he has a picture with both in there, lol
Grandmaster JeJe
December 8th, 2011
10:02 pm
ASG WILL NEVER EVER GO INTO THE LUXURY TAX…EVER
SELL THE TEAM. U GUYS ARE A JOKE
Wabe
December 8th, 2011
10:04 pm
What’s Michael Gearon’s email address…
Folks need to start blasting this guys inbox till they get the f’n message.
Either spend some cash or GTFOH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ra'mon
December 8th, 2011
10:06 pm
ASG remind me of MONEYBALL without the geniuses to pull it off!
drmaryb.[*_*].
December 8th, 2011
10:07 pm
Nix That!
“The NBA owners just vetoed the CP3 trade. LMAO this s like fantasy basketball in more ways than one at this point.” – Poop -
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Dey is a BB god! Now, imma’ quote me:
“drmaryb.[*_*].
Bees Knees!
Kobe’s Knees
CP3 Knees
Bynum Knees
December 8th, 2011
6:30 pm
That training staff better gear up! When you see the rich get richer, it makes you think about how The Dream Team is struggling in Philly and how the old Washington Redskins fared badly about nine years ago – when they stock piled all those HOFers past their prime.
I just hope the basketball gods somehow bless the Hawks and rain pee on the movers and shakers.” -drmaryb-
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What we are seeing here is the 1% peeing on the 99%-ers. A lot of good the new CBA is doing to promote competitive balance.
They Lie! Somehow, I fear the Lakers will re-work that deal and end up with CP3 anyways. Looks like the model is gonna’ be super-teams with a minimum of three HOFers. Problem is you literally have to go into “Suck for Luck” mode if, you ain’t got no money.
Astro Joe
December 8th, 2011
10:08 pm
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/brad-wanamaker
Funny, I mentioned Royal Ivey a few days ago.
Astro Joe
December 8th, 2011
10:15 pm
Our own @Chris_Broussard on SportsCenter: Chris Paul fuming and exploring legal options w/NBPA director Billy Hunter to fight blocked deal
Ra'mon
December 8th, 2011
10:15 pm
Am I the only one who gets pissed that I am such a loyal fan of a ‘do nothing’ franchise? It irks me so much. Yet I still come back every season hoping they will wake up and get their act together.
Astro Joe
December 8th, 2011
10:20 pm
Ra’mon, think of it this way, chances are the Hawks are one of 2-3 teams that have made the 2nd round of the playoffs for the past 3 seasons. And they haven’t paid the luxury tax. Will that help you sleepp well tonight?
WhitePeopleLoveUsher
December 8th, 2011
10:20 pm
word is a major trade is coming for the hawks
drmaryb.[*_*].
December 8th, 2011
10:21 pm
A Big Problem!
“If that happens, our toughest player on this roster is probably Jason Collins.
No Thanks.” – Grandmaster JeJe -
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Copyright that!
A smart GM will NEVER trade a Big for a Small. You solve one small problem, but all the while, creating a bigger problem. You can’t coach SIZE._
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Re: The Lakers
“I guess too much money ain’t enough money”
- Lil Wayne on Drake- “I’m Ova”
WhitePeopleLoveUsher
December 8th, 2011
10:22 pm
insider twitter sources mentioning this deal about to go down for the hawks, this is gonna be huge
mykhalc
December 8th, 2011
10:23 pm
i’ve come to hang out…not watch this bunch of ’same ole, same ole BS’. if the owners can block the trade of CP3 to LAL then for the betterment of their NBA product they should demand a sale of the Hawks. this $hit in ATL is sad and pathetic…PERIOD!!!
Big Ray
December 8th, 2011
10:24 pm
Well, Khloe is relieved.
No, Lamar is relieved. We all know what happens when a Kardashian gets inconvenienced by something as trifling as a husband’s work-related situation.
Lamar knows who he’s really working for and what his real career is….and it ain’t the Lakers or basketball anymore…
Ryan
December 8th, 2011
10:24 pm
I call BS on big deal for Hawks.
Grandmaster JeJe
December 8th, 2011
10:25 pm
WhitePeopleLoveUsher
December 8th, 2011
10:22 pm
insider twitter sources mentioning this deal about to go down for the hawks, this is gonna be huge
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Are you Tyrone’s cousin BooBop?
WhitePeopleLoveUsher
December 8th, 2011
10:25 pm
No way bro. This is going to send shock waves around the league.
Grandmaster JeJe
December 8th, 2011
10:25 pm
BooBoo
WhitePeopleLoveUsher
December 8th, 2011
10:26 pm
Hawks contender status imminent, hold on for the ride folks.
Rufus1
December 8th, 2011
10:27 pm
Why they blocked the deal…
Because Houston is STUPID! The fact that Bynum was not in the deal is why they stopped it. Bynum would be the main part in the deal for d12….They will let LA get one but not both.
Why would Houston do that deal?