Atlanta Hawks: Camp roster rounds into shape
Zaza and Magnum Rolle were at Philips today. Twin is expected to re-sign with the Hawks tomorrow. Earl Watson told Jody Genessy of the Deseret News he hasn’t decided where he will sign.
So, assuming T-Mac and Twin follow through and sign with the Hawks and Watson ends up picking Atlanta, this is what the team depth chart would look like for the start of camp (not counting Kirk Hinrich):
PG–Jeff Teague/Earl Watson/Pape Sy
SG–Joe Johnson/Tracy McGrady/Brad Wanamaker
SF–Marvin Williams/Tracy McGrady
PF–Josh Smith/Magnum Rolle
C–Al Horford/Zaza Pachulia/Jason Collins/Keith Benson
That’s 14 players on the roster, 10 of whom have guaranteed contracts.
Still don’t see any of the “knock-down 3-point shooters” L.D. said he wants. Twin, when deployed in favorable matchups, ended up providing some of the defensive toughness L.D. is seeking and T-Mac is a pretty good defender and very good rebounder: According to Hoopdata, last season he was seventh in defensive rebound rate among shooting guards who played at least 15 minutes.
But so far it looks like the Hawks haven’t addressed two of their main concerns. Stay tuned.
Etc.
- I don’t think there will be a sign-and-trade with Chicago for Jamal. The Hawks aren’t looking to take on the kind of salary the matching rules require and the Bulls are focused on using their MLE to sign a free agent.
- Zaza said he’s fully recovered from the left calf injury he suffered during FIBA play and aggravated while playing in Turkey.
- It looks like Damien is not in the Hawks’ plans.
- Word is Hinrich will be at camp tomorrow to continue his rehab.
- Rob Mahoney, writing for ProBasketballTalk, endorses the T-Mac signing: “For the league minimum, this is very likely the best the Hawks could possibly do.”
- AJC wise guy Jeff Schultz does not like a T-Mac-for-Jamal swap: “It’s a good sign if McGrady’s addition is meant only to add depth on the bench. It’s a bad sign if his signing is intended to soften the blow for the possible loss of Jamal Crawford.”
- Hawks blog legend Sekou predicts “this is the year the Hawks hit the skids.”
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399 comments Add your comment
Nique
December 8th, 2011
5:57 pm
What about sending Jamal to Boston srtaight up for Jeff Green, or to the 76’s for Thadius Young? That is if we’re not gonna keep him
Ryan
December 8th, 2011
5:58 pm
Actually Bogut is exactly what we need but he is annoying. Lol
ryan
December 8th, 2011
5:59 pm
I guess i am not surprise that Sund and ASG would chicken out in bringing in more players oh well .
Najeh Davenpoop
December 8th, 2011
6:03 pm
CP3 to the Lakers is about to be official.
Ryan
December 8th, 2011
6:05 pm
Better West than East I always say. lol
ryan
December 8th, 2011
6:05 pm
LA lands Pujols and now Paul man this sucks .
ryan
December 8th, 2011
6:10 pm
You can guess that Dwight Howard ends up in LA also with wanting a movie career to .
J.J.M.
December 8th, 2011
6:15 pm
boooo lakers got cp3
Maybe
December 8th, 2011
6:15 pm
DimeMag Dime Magazine
Report: Hornets Near Deal To Send Chris Paul To Lakers For Lamar Odom & Pau Gasol bit.ly/v2UFNR
Maybe
December 8th, 2011
6:17 pm
Jamal to NOLA in a S&T for Pau Gasol!!!
LMBO!!!
Maybe
December 8th, 2011
6:18 pm
” if you’re the lakers, how fast do you move on dwight howard? or do you wait for bynum to miss 30 games?” _Bomani Jones
Najeh Davenpoop
December 8th, 2011
6:23 pm
Don’t you loooooooove competitive balance?
Grandmaster JeJe
December 8th, 2011
6:27 pm
Houston is getting destroyed if they trade Scola and K-Mart for Gasol. Absolutely awful trade.
Mac-Town #maconchevyrider
December 8th, 2011
6:27 pm
Earl Watson = Finals for the Hawks. I love our commitment to excellence. Lets give Tyronn Lue and Royal Ivey a call to sure us up in the back court.
Grandmaster JeJe
December 8th, 2011
6:27 pm
Lakers are in deep trouble if Bynum gets hurt now. He is already out 5 games (of a 66 game season) with his suspension.
Does LAL now offer Bynum + Artest for Dwight?
LOL
Maybe
December 8th, 2011
6:28 pm
daldridgetnt David Aldridge
League source insists 3 way w/LAL, HOU and NOH for CP3 still being worked on: Paul to Lakers, Gasol to Rockets, Scola/Martin package to NO
Smh
Grandmaster JeJe
December 8th, 2011
6:28 pm
Dallas gets screwed this year because of shorter schedule. Not only can they not afford to keep all these guys, but there’s little chance they hit 50 wins in a 66 game season. Their impressive streak comes to an end this year.
ryan
December 8th, 2011
6:29 pm
Small market teams look like they be losers here because it seems like superstars only want to play in cities like LA, New York , and Miami MLB or NBA .
Grandmaster JeJe
December 8th, 2011
6:29 pm
SMH @ these “experts” who think the older teams benefit from shorter season.
GOOD LUCK TO THE CELTICS PLAYING 5 GAMES A WEEK LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Najeh Davenpoop
December 8th, 2011
6:30 pm
“Does LAL now offer Bynum + Artest for Dwight?”
That’s probably their plan all along. At this point I would be surprised if the Lakers didn’t have their own Big 3 to start the season.
As far as I am concerned, though, better the Lakers than the Knicks. The Knicks dropped a big chunk of change on Tyson Chandler hoping for CP3. Chandler will make them better, but if they don’t get CP3 they are still not real contenders. And anyway, I dislike NY teams a lot more than I dislike LA teams
drmaryb.[*_*].
December 8th, 2011
6:30 pm
Bees Knees!
Kobe’s Knees
CP3 Knees
Bynum Knees
That training staff better gear up! When you see the rich get richer, it makes you think about how The Dream Team is struggling in Philly and how the old Washington Redskins fared badly about nine years ago – when they stock piled all those HOFers past their prime.
I just hope the basketball gods somehow bless the Hawks and rain on the movers and shakers. Yeah, I know I’m hatinK. But dayum! It really sux being a Hawks fan.
I feel like we eating government cheese when all the other rats are eating Gouda.
Mac-Town #maconchevyrider
December 8th, 2011
6:30 pm
Heat, Bulls, Knicks, Celtics, etc. just wet their pants when they heard about Earl Watson being on the Hawks radar.
Grandmaster JeJe
December 8th, 2011
6:34 pm
CP3 to Lakers is good.
Just another tougher team Miami will face when they get to the Finals.
TRADE FOR DWIGHT TOO
Remember, as Hawks fans, our #1 goal besides winning a championship is “ANYONE BUT MIAMI”
Grandmaster JeJe
December 8th, 2011
6:36 pm
What if CP3 bolts LA? That roster will be dreadful and Kobe will sh*t on front office.
J.J.M.
December 8th, 2011
6:36 pm
hawks wont make a move
Carrlos Lyles
December 8th, 2011
6:37 pm
What most of you fans are forgetting is what the hawks strengths are… Its Versatility. By having horford and josh on the floor at the same time it creates situations where its match-up problems. Either one of them can start a break off a miss and every starter on the team has the ability to be used in creative ways. If teague can understand when to force the action and when not to force the action the hawks will win games and get to the playoffs again.. They would be dumb to trade josh smith as in he does alot for the team on the defensive end as well as rotations. If Larry Drew can implement the correct offense to utilize the strenghts of the Hawks is going to be the deciding factor..
Carrlos Lyles
December 8th, 2011
6:38 pm
in addition earl watson will not help the hawks in any way but costing more money. he is not good for the system.
superiorblogman
December 8th, 2011
6:39 pm
Jack
K Mart
Odom
Scola
Okafor
Not a bad team for NO. It really does not make sense though. They don’t really shed salary and they are not really a playoff team. One of the dumbest moves they could make. Just more proof that this trade was all about getting Paul another superstar to Lakers. No hate, but I hope you can see that NO could have done so much better financially than this trade.
Wabe
December 8th, 2011
6:40 pm
What you’re forgetting is…
We’ve been doing it for years now, and we haven’t really gotten very far in the playoffs with those ‘mismatches’ on the floor.
I don’t mind keeping both. I like both Horford and Smith. But, the status quo won’t cut it. They need to bring in some additional talent, which they never do.
I’m booking it now. We’ll lose Jamal, T-Mac and a guy like Earl Watson will pretty much be it…
And we’ll go out there again this season as we do every season undermanned.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 8th, 2011
6:42 pm
Jamaal Tinsley just signed with Utah, making it less likely that they keep Earl Watson
drmaryb.[*_*].
December 8th, 2011
6:43 pm
Hostages!
“hawks wont make a move” -J.J.M.
_______________
Hawks fans are being held hostage with no ransom demanded. Our Daddy buys our groceries form isle #8 – all brands generic. The other kids get Nestle’s, Oreos and Ben & Jerry’s ice cream.
Grandmaster JeJe
December 8th, 2011
6:44 pm
“One of the dumbest moves they could make.”
Better than what their roster would be with CP3
Wabe
December 8th, 2011
6:45 pm
Day after day…
The NBA is getting less interesting for any market outside of the Big 5 or 6 markets (LA, Miami, NY, Dallas, Boston, CHI).
cp
December 8th, 2011
6:48 pm
I hope this isnt the final roster…..The Lakers just got Chris Paul.
ryan
December 8th, 2011
6:49 pm
I guess that why could be bad for the NBA with having these mega teams in the 3 major cities is people will interest .
Grandmaster JeJe
December 8th, 2011
6:51 pm
What exactly does NBA owning the Hornets mean? Do all teams chip into payroll? Where is Hornets payroll coming from?
Maybe
December 8th, 2011
6:53 pm
Jamal Tinsley to Utah, We’re gonna get Watson
Free
December 8th, 2011
6:54 pm
First off people need to let the Hawks grow as a team, If T-Mac can help us achieve our goal then let give him a chance ATL.We tend forget when Al Horford was a 1 round pick he went straightinto starting job of playing forward / center and al most won rookie of the year. He seem to me Atlanta fan aren’t pateince when comes to player they want a championship tomorrow.We drafted a center Keith Benson and now Al Horford can move to strong forward. This Benson is going to surprise a lot of fans.Jamal Crawford is great scorer but lack defense that what wins you games.T-Mac can rebound and assist ,and lastly we aren’t paying and arm and leg for him. Great Job Hawks organization . Believe it will pay off one day with a World Championship bander
ryan
December 8th, 2011
6:54 pm
I may not be much of a pro sports fan much longer if we have no hope its hard to be fan when you see things like this .
mykhalc
December 8th, 2011
6:54 pm
can we get some mo’ cheese to go with that TMac? wait…wait…where’s the bun? SMDH
Wabe
December 8th, 2011
6:55 pm
back to the falcons…
mykhalc
December 8th, 2011
6:56 pm
bring back hockey!!! is arena football still in ATL? Gwinett soccer?
Wabe
December 8th, 2011
6:57 pm
at least until something worth mentioning happens to the hawks roster…
Grandmaster JeJe
December 8th, 2011
6:57 pm
Want to reiterate what Worldwide Clyde said earlier…..
Al NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER talks about getting tougher. It’s NEVER about being tougher or more physical defensively. All he cares about is his jumpshot WHICH IS USELESS WHEN HE IS GUARDED TIGHTLY.
He worked on nothing this summer. Dribbling and penetration? WHERE IS THE DEFENSE
Michael Cunningham
December 8th, 2011
7:00 pm
@leedsatlanta: “MC, what happened to the Hawks management wanting Damien and David Lighty?”
not sure why they cooled on Damien (and neither is he). i’m guessing T-Mac means they don’t need him and they can get younger guys to be 10th man.
Lighty was playing in Europe but recently left. i wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up in camp with Hawks, but i’m sure he will get interest from other teams too.
northcyde
December 8th, 2011
7:01 pm
@ superior
Jack: 2 yrs – roughly 11 mill left on deal
K Mart: 2 yrs – 25 million
Odom: 1 yr – 9 million ( 8.2 million team option next year )
Scola: 4 yrs – 39 million
Okafor: 3 yrs – 41 million
Plus the Hornets will get a few 1st round picks.
Essentially, it would be a deal similar that Memphis got when they traded Gasol to Memphis. People thought that trade was extremely lopsided ( I did too ). But the money off the books + the draft picks enabled Memphis to get these players
- Zach Randolph
- Marc Gasol
- Darrell Arthur
- Sam Young
In the end, although the trade handed the Lakers 2 championships, it ended up being a GREAT trade for Memphis.
But it’s really up to New Orleans to do something with those draft picks, and use the coming cap space to get a real good player(s)
EmirS.
December 8th, 2011
7:02 pm
“Our Daddy buys our groceries form isle #8 – all brands generic. The other kids get Nestle’s, Oreos and Ben & Jerry’s ice cream.”
-Drmaryb
LOL! I am starting to fall in love with you.
Btw even if the Knicks don’t get CP3, they will still be a major threat with Tyson Chandler. That is if he signs with them. But whose to say it’s out of the question that the Lakers not only land CP3….but Tyson Chandler…..AND Dwight Howard?
Is that possible!?
Grandmaster JeJe
December 8th, 2011
7:03 pm
SHOP SMOOVE + HINRICH FOR BEST BIG AVAILABLE
SHOP HORFORD. HE HAS MADE IT KNOWN HE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT BEING PHYSICAL OR TOUGH.
cp
December 8th, 2011
7:04 pm
A bunch of second rounders and undrafted kids just aint gone cut it. The Hawks have no big man depth. This front office is fine with just making the playoffs. Can we please get an owner who wants to win it all and just not be content with making the playoffs.
Grandmaster JeJe
December 8th, 2011
7:04 pm
SUND IS WAITING FOR EVERYONE TO BE SIGNED SO HE CAN SIGN THE SAME WASHED UP SCRUBS:
JASON COLLINS (GOOD FOR ONE OPPONENT IN THIS LEAGUE)
MIKE BIBBY