Atlanta Hawks: Horford: Get a ’solid’ center, bring back Jamal Crawford
Al was at Philips to work out today. He said he worked out in LA with D-Rose, Russell Westbrook and Kevin Love (they have the same trainer). He said he worked on his post game and driving to the basket, but more on that later.
Al had an interesting response to the persistent question about whether he prefers to play center or power forward.
“I am still going to keep playing both,” he said. “I think that Josh and myself we can bring a lot of problems to people. At times I am going to have to play the four and I think Josh is OK with playing the three. That way we stay very athletic and we can do different things.
“And I think that’s why we need big bodies here, a couple of solid bigs to come out here and help us out. I know there are quite a few of those out there in free agency and we should try to pursue them.”
Al doesn’t control the purse strings, of course, but that’s the most public prodding of the front office by a Hawks player that I can remember since I’ve been around. I’m told that ASG still haven’t decided if they want to keep building the roster by paying into the luxury tax; should find out more once the CBA is ratified and the league lifts the restrictions on teams commenting.
Al also said he hopes the Hawks re-sign Jamal because “he is a huge part of our team.”
“We are a much better team with him,” Al said. “We need his scoring and his presence.”
Al said his conditioning is about what it should be entering training camp. He said he was able to work on his game while playing last summer for John Calipari, the coach of that other school.
“I am really trying to get better with my shooting and with my post game, really trying to be more assertive in the past than I have with it,” he said. “Cal was my coach for the Dominican national team for the FIBA game, and with him his whole thing was a lot about driving and penetrating. That is something in my game I really didn’t do much before but I think I was able to do a little more of it this summer.”
My T-Mac take
I was kind of surprised at the negative reactions on Twitter to the T-Mac news. Then I realized that those who don’t like it assumed he would be the replacement for Jamal or otherwise believe the Hawks see him as a major piece, in which case I would understand.
But it remains to be seen what other moves the Hawks will make and what role McGrady will play. Once all that gets settled then we can determine whether he’s a good addition or not.
If T-Mac ends up starting and/or or playing 25 minutes per night then it would mean the Hawks are scary-thin. My take after watching him play for the Pistons against the Hawks last season and looking at his numbers is that he’s no longer cut out for that kind of gig. I’m sure I’m not the only one who saw it.
But I see no problem with McGrady as a 10-15 minute per night “point forward” who is a good passer (which the Hawks can use), just posted his best true-shooting percentage since he was an All-Star and is a pretty good defender: 14.0 opponent per as a shooting guard last season according to 82games.com; a positive defensive rating at basketballvalue.com, and decent Synergy numbers.
Aside from his passing possibly setting up teammates for higher-percentage shots–1.7 of his 3.5 assists per game last season led to baskets within 10 feet–McGrady isn’t likely to help diversify Atlanta’s offense, which needs it badly. He’s made 33.7 percent of his 3-point attempts in his career and 206 of his 515 field-goal attempts last season were long 2s. His 15.14 percent turnover rate also is high for a wing.
But T-Mac is a veteran who can be useful in a limited role, and what else do you expect for the vet minimum?
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Rationale
December 8th, 2011
12:41 pm
Well, I have said this on here numerous times, but here we go again. Who in the world thinks they are going to really sign, or draft, a legitimate center, when in the previous draft, they allowed 2 legitimate 7 footers go by, I do not remember who they were, and they drafted players that are not even playing anywhere, as far as I know. If I am wrong, my apologies. They drafted someone, allowed him to go to Europe, hoping he would improve. Why not draft a legitimate 7 footer, keep him on the team, let the team coaches work on him and help develop him in practice and bit playing time in real games, instead of hoping Horford is going to turn into the best 6′ 10″ center to have ever played, but was not as good as a 7′ plus man that could play that position and let Horford be the forward that he is, and evidently from his words in the post, he wants to be. Horford is not a NBA center. He can take the job and be the back up center, fine with that, but not the everyday center. His talents are being wasted, and if we are not careful, we are going to lose him in a few years, so he can go to a legitimate team so he can win a NBA Championship.
EmirS.
December 8th, 2011
12:43 pm
“The deal is though, if Miami offered Bosh for Chris Paul, they would blow everyone out of the water”
Yea a backcourt of LBJ, Wade, and Paul would be insane. Beast on offense……Until they’re playing defense and the ball gets moved into the paint.
northcyde
December 8th, 2011
12:45 pm
So grandad would turn Lebron into Boris Diaw ? That’s nice.
Ra'mon
December 8th, 2011
12:45 pm
EmirS, Bosh is an average post defender, so that wouldn’t cause any concern really.
Rufus, I’m sorry. I remember seeing West do most of his work on the elbow and high post, not on the low block.
drmaryb.[*_*].
December 8th, 2011
12:52 pm
Bad Terms!
“he is a role player with – probably – the wrong mindset (see the quarrel with Kuester).” -vava74-
_______________
Hell, who didn’t quarrel with Keuster? If you can’t het along with a nice guy like Rip Hamilton, then you can’t get along with anyone.
Jeff.Joe.Josh.Leuer.Bogut
December 8th, 2011
12:57 pm
vava74 lol true, I did not see your translation. David West doesn’t play in the low post area. He’s a pick and pop player with consumate isolation ability. Crossovers, fadeaways. Dunks it well.
AND NO ITS NOT BECAUSE HE IS TOUGHER THAN HORFORD. Despite standing the same height as some small forwards at 6′9 David West has a 7′4.25″ wingspan to Al’s Kwame-esque 7′1.
vava74
December 8th, 2011
12:58 pm
Rip was an established vet in Detroit. He holds the banner of DET’s championship pedigree.
T-Mac was a guy who got the call up – including from Kuester – for an opportunity that NO ONE was willing to give him last year.
You don’t bite the hand that feeds you.
cp
December 8th, 2011
1:04 pm
For all the Tyson Chandler fans on here. The Warriors have offered him a 4 year 60 million dollar deal.. They say the Warriors will use the amnesty clause on Biedrens.
Jeff.Joe.Josh.Leuer.Bogut
December 8th, 2011
1:07 pm
“Such is the reality for a franchise that presented Joe Johnson with a golden effigy on the first day of free agency last season, invested in Marvin Williams to the tune of $8 million a year, and took every shortcut there is to take in team construction.”
Rick Sund: Play Big?? But Josh and Horford are tweeners and we’d have to trade Horford to get a center and a shooting PF, slide Smith baseline on offense where he can hurt teams and SF where we can triple team the boards.
Aw f*** it Horford is a coach’s vote Reserve back up. Lets keep both and add a cheap wing. Childress wants WHAT!. MARVIN!!!
PG Bibby
SG Johnson
SF Marvin
SF Josh
PF Horford
Yeah Teague is not fixing that clusterbomb of defensive hypocrisy. As long as ATL keeps putting defensive positions second they will not deserve the title.
Ideally
Smith,perimeter,center = Smith,Leuer,Bogut (Trade A)
perimeter,Horford,center = Aminu,Horford,Kaman (Trade B)
non shooter, non scorer, big body = Smith, Horford, Collins (no Trade, no ECF)
40-50 win team, that has all offense or all defense lineups but no compromise, no balance.
Keep thinking you’re fooling everyone Sund. You’re not.
vava74
December 8th, 2011
1:09 pm
Deals that I would do:
1. Horford + …. + ….. for CPaul
2. Horford + …. + …. for Bogut
3. Horford + …. + …. for Howard
…. = Teague + Zaza (or Marvin) on deal 1.
…. = Zaza + Marvin (or tentatively Hinrich) on deals 2 and 3
Fundamentals
December 8th, 2011
1:09 pm
Maybe Darryl Arsenal will finally get his biedrens wish. Dallas will match.
Grandad
December 8th, 2011
1:09 pm
northcyde
yeah, that’s exactly what I said.
SteveW
December 8th, 2011
1:10 pm
Then we get Biedrens for the vet min.? Hmm, Biedrins is garbage, but another 7 ft. slow big, who can pick and pop – He would probably be better than Josh Powell was.
Miami is so desperate for a big, I’m not sure they wouldn’t offer Biedrins if he’s amnestied.
I’ve always felt that with the right Coach, Biedrins could turn into a serviceable big in a League with a dearth of Big’s right now.
By serviceable I mean 20 mpg and doing something somewhat positive on the court
You know, the more I type about Biedrins, the less I like him – even for the vet min.
Fundamentals
December 8th, 2011
1:10 pm
Daryl Starks
Jeff.Joe.Josh.Leuer.Bogut
December 8th, 2011
1:11 pm
Chandler’s ability to crash the glass and knock down free throws at a 73% clip saved the Mavericks in their first-round series against the Trail Blazers last year. In Game 5, after Brandon Roy’s legendary Game 4 in Portland, Dallas forced the Blazers to go small, which left Gerald Wallace or Nic Batum to box out Chandler while LaMarcus Aldridge defended Dirk Nowitkzi on the perimeter. Chandler dominated, grabbing 13 offensive rebounds and going 8-12 from the line.
Horford will never be able to make his money as a glass eating role player. EVER.
Everyone has a role on a contender. Give me a 7′0 Bogut or Chandler. EVERY TIME. Maybe Even Bynum if it werent for his knees and Fruit Loops at Practice maturity.
Still he has 2 rings just for him and Pau being 7 feet.
vava74
December 8th, 2011
1:13 pm
SteveW
Jeff.Joe.Josh.Leuer.Bogut
December 8th, 2011
1:15 pm
His presence, not any change in Dirk’s character, was the reason Dallas was able to win a championship after over a decade of coming up short. Without him, the Mavericks will slip into the pack in the West with teams like San Antonio, Portland and Memphis.
The upside of this sacrifice would be enough salary cap space to pursue Deron Williams, Chris Paul and Howard in 2012. But without Chandler, why would either Williams or Paul sign in Dallas? As their careers have shown, a great point guard on a team without great front-court defense isn’t doing anything in the playoffs.
Teague can slash all he wants. A) The Midget frontline will give it back. Or B) Smith at the 3 and no Leuer means your big but he’s your best perimeter player. No shooting = SMith bricks = EC Fail. it will not mix.
SteveW
December 8th, 2011
1:17 pm
Vav – I read on a respected insider blog a few months ago that Bogut had severe migraines, to the point he was considering retirement. That blog said stay away from him. Now I’ve looked at hundreds of blogs over the past few months – so I have no idea where it’s at – and I have no desire at the moment to look it up.
But that’s scared me away from Bogut ever since. But yes, if you had a healthy Bogut, that may not be a bad trade.
And a few predictions for All Stars this season:
Noah and Bogut are Dwight’s backups, and not Al.
Rondo, DeRon, Derrick Rose are the East PG’s – with John Wall challenging.
And unless Mark DeRozan has turned into a beast, and he might (doubt it), JJ will represent us in his 6th straight All Star game.
And surely Josh makes it in over Garnett this season.
But folks forget, Noah was having a monster season before he was hurt last year, and that’s probably the only reason Al was an All Star was because of Noah’s injury.
And Noah can’t play a lick of Offense, but he punked Al a bunch in that Chicago series.
SteveW
December 8th, 2011
1:23 pm
SG’s in the east is still DWade, then JJ is still 2nd best in my book.
And Vav74 – Here’s an article from a Sydney Australia Newspaper from Dec. 10th 2010. This is just part of the article, didn’t want to take up the whole space here:
“And he is doing it amidst some constant health concerns.
As fallout from his sickening fall late last season, when his arm crumpled underneath his 118kg frame following a fast-break dunk, Bogut still needs treatment every day or else he loses movement in the arm.
He has also opened up in more detail about the chronic migraines he suffers.
One struck him in the middle of a game against New York last season, while they affected him in this year’s pre-season and also forced him to miss a game against Indiana last month.
Bogut also once had one while driving in his home city of Melbourne and only just made it home.
“A lot of people that don’t know what they are think it’s just a headache,” he told American broadcaster Jim Rome on his self-titled radio program.
“It’s nothing like that.
“The way it starts with me I lose my peripheral vision, I get blurs and fuzzy stars and I know I’m going to get one.
“So I try to get to a dark, quiet place and my body starts to go numb in certain parts, my arms, my cheeks, teeth, hands.
“Then the migraine starts to get gradually worse and then when I start throwing up, that’s when it starts going down.
“Usually by the next day I’m pretty good, a little nauseous, but I can play.”
Bogut’s Bucks re-tooled in the off-season and have had a disappointing start, although their 10-15 record has them only one win outside the playoff positions in the eastern conference.
Milwaukee travel to Portland tomorrowand Bogut should have his first significant match-up with Boomers teammate Patty Mills.
In his second season, Mills is finally earning some meaningful court time, averaging eight points, 3.7 assists and 19 minutes on court over his past three games.
Many considered Bogut unlucky not to make his first All-Star game last season and while superstar big men Dwight Howard and Amar’e Stoudemire are locks to get another nod for the East squad, the Australian might just be able to sneak onto the bench if he continues his strong play.
Making his form all the more impressive, Bogut still needs the help of a physio just to get on the court.
“It’s still a work in progress,” he said of his troublesome right arm.
“I still have to work on it every day.”
tbhawksfab
December 8th, 2011
1:25 pm
Like the arguments and analysis you’re blogging J.J.J.L.B.
The Hawks have been in need of a capable BIG to have a chance of getting over the hump. Since they won’t / can’t spend the necessary FA money, a trade seems the only solution. Smoove, Horf or JJ are the only pieces that can bring in a true starting C.
JJ’s contract limits trading him and the Hawks from signing a good FA.
If we can’t / won’t trade Smoove and maybe Hinrich for a good starting C, then got to find another solution or just stand pat and BLAH……
There could be a few pretty good centers available that we could realistically get.
If GSW get Chandler and amnesty Beans; would a Horf, Smoove, Beans, Zaza, back up PF / C get us somewhere?
Beans / Zaza / FA
Horf /
Smoove / MW
JJ / T Mac
JT / Hinrich / FA
With Horf, Beans and Zaza at C
Horf, Smoove and maybe MW at PF
Smoove, MW, JJ, T Mac at SF
we might be able to man up enough to improve. Enough for a title, very doubtfull, but an improvement.
vava74
December 8th, 2011
1:28 pm
SteveW,
I would still take Bogut like that over Al as it currently stands.
I prefer a guy who is physically hampered than a guy who is psychologically hampered.
I believe that Bogut will get to 90% with that arm but I don’t expect Al to change his softie ways.
SteveW
December 8th, 2011
1:30 pm
If Howard would re-up with ATL, I would do JJ and Al for Dwight in a heartbeat. I know we would have to eat Arenas’s contract, and maybe amnesty him.
But just for fun, could you imagine a BC of Arenas and McGrady if both were even reasonably healthy, and a FC of Josh and Howard? Maybe keep Arenas for a little while, you have to pay him regardless, and see what happens.
Then our real BC of Teague and Hinrich shows up…
PS – Re-sign Wilkens! You always need a good tough veteran bench guy who knows his role, who doesn’t mind sitting, and Wants, I repeat, Wants – Dreams even of playing here.
You want that guy on your team. Ask LeBron
Wishful
December 8th, 2011
1:33 pm
This is the trade I would like to see happen: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cz3y3cv
I think everyone would find it would greatly benefit the Hawks.
kwooden
December 8th, 2011
1:36 pm
Jeff.Joe.Josh.Leuer.Bogut are you serious about David West not playing in the post area? The reason he gets the fadeways, is his ability to make the up and under move. He will immediately back down any defender that is his height or weight (no matter the height). Al needs to watch David and learn his post-up moves.
Grandad
December 8th, 2011
1:36 pm
Bogut does have migraines;
however,
great strides have been made in the treatment of migraines
over the last few years.
(I would not let that be a cause for concern)
vava74
December 8th, 2011
1:40 pm
You cannot compare David West’s high post game with Horford or Smoove’s:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YhmMwQcpi8
He is much more fluid and much more resourceful.
SteveW
December 8th, 2011
1:40 pm
Vava74 – I know what you mean. I guess I’m not frustrated enough yet with Al to get to that point. I’m journeying there however. Josh still frustrates me more on a far more consistent basis.
And having been a coach, what got me about Al, was not Al, but rather Larry Drew.
Larry played Al to much, way to much at times last season. I know they get paid to play etc., but Al is a 33, 34 mpg game – and Larry played him 40+ some games, like 7 of 10. Al is already outsized, and you could just see an injury coming.
Even against Chicago, there bigs were always fresh, and ZaZa actually was playing ok. But Al just player too much. Noah already out hustles Al, it’s his game. But when he’s also fresher, it’s just no contest.
But Bass and Anderson convinced me in the 1st round Al is no PF. Too slow, and can’t create his own shot. He needs a low post game, and a Coach who will keep him fresh.
So I blame Larry’s substitution patterns for some of Al’s problems. But most of his problems are Al’s.
Grandad
December 8th, 2011
1:49 pm
SteveW
Biedrins is not a pick & pop player.
Can’t shoot. [mid-range or beyond]
(horrendous FT shooter)
On the bright side:
he is a very good shot blocker and hustle player.
Runs the floor well. Gifted leaper. Lefty (I think)
He’s a good kid who suffered a “sports hernia”
(if I’m not mistaken) – he tried to play through it.
[drmaryb or doc] can fill yawl in on the specifics
of that inj. – very painful.
(once again – I think that’s what he suffered)
Nevertheless, he’s exactly what we are searching for;
a long defensive minded shot blocking high energy rim defender.
[if he's an amnesty casualty then he will not be overpaid]
Are they going to draft the amnesty casualties ?
vava74
December 8th, 2011
1:51 pm
SteveW,
The link of West’s perfomance against the Lakers is a clinic on what a modern day PF has to do in order to be an option on offense.
A PF either has that type of face up game OR he has to be a fierce banger who gets the points down low doing dirty work.
Al’s game IS ONLY effective against C’s (I am only taking into consideration games that MATTER – namely, against contenders and playoff games – I am not talking about games against the Wolves or against GS).
SteveW
December 8th, 2011
1:52 pm
You know Bogut has back problems also…from Bleacher Report – “Inevitably at some point in this coming season, we will see Andrew Bogut and his awful white suit riding the bench due to migraines, back pain, issues with his elbow or any other ailment the oft-injured Buck develops.”
Bogut has only played at least 70 games in a season twice in 6 years.
He missed 17 games last year, 13 the year before that, and over half the season before that.
I like Bogut, but Larry would possibly run him into the ground trying to save his job.
Coach Drew was coaching scared last season it looked like, with a little bit of vendetta thrown in. If he could dominate a Wilkens or Teague, he would flex his muscles and authority. But a Josh, he was scared to death of.
I would not do Al for Bogut straight up. Bogut’s time in the NBA may be limited. But if Larry keeps coaching the Hawks, so might Al’s!
Big Dog
December 8th, 2011
1:53 pm
Co-Signing
vava74 – 1:09 pm
Jeff.Joe.Josh.Leuer.Bogut 1:07 and 1:10
tbhawksfan
December 8th, 2011
1:54 pm
Totally agree SteveW. Lighten Horfs load and he’ll get back to his ways of two years ago. Horford is our best piece. Get him solid help at C and let him play about 20-25 minutes at C and the rest at PF; max about 32 a game. Get him some starting caliber C help and keep him fresh.
LD didn’t have any choice, he had to use what he was given. Can the Hawks be better coached? Of course; better GMed undoubtable. Better owners…………
vava74
December 8th, 2011
1:57 pm
South Beach Buffet parlours are set to see a surge in their earnings:
MIA to sign Eddie Cuury
Maybe
December 8th, 2011
1:59 pm
Tyson chandler is about to sign with the Knicks and Billups is about to get Amnesteyed. NOT GOOD!
We should amnesty Kirk and Sign Billups though. He wont want a big contract with NYK paying the rest of his contract for the season.
Grandad
December 8th, 2011
2:00 pm
vava
“You cannot compare David West’s high post game
with Horford or Smoove’s:”
You are so right sir !
He is older / gimpy knee / and wants to get paid.
He is a better shotblocker than Al,
but due to inj, most likely will lose mobility.
Al is a better rebounder, especially def reb.
West is a high [2 pt %] shooter, so is Al.
(both are higher than Josh) Josh is a higher [3 pt %] shooter
than either one.
West has had the advantage of playing with Chris Paul.
West is a good player – but redundant –
unless a trade is forthcoming. hmmmmmm (he & Paul are close)
Not fair to say he is better tha Al or Josh.
He duplicates them in many ways.
He is just older and has the recent knee surgery.
Maybe
December 8th, 2011
2:00 pm
Jason Collins expected to re-sign tomorrow via michael cunningham
Naren
December 8th, 2011
2:02 pm
Yahoo reports : Adrian Wojnarowski: Free agent forward Jason Collins will return to the Atlanta Hawks with a one-year deal, a league source tells Yahoo! Sports
Maybe
December 8th, 2011
2:03 pm
Tayshaun Prince re-upping with the Pistons 4yr/27mill ??? Well I guess he already has a title so he just wants the $$$$
vava74
December 8th, 2011
2:04 pm
What Jason Collins will sign, the 400lbs version or the 270lbs version?
vava74
December 8th, 2011
2:06 pm
Grandad,
West’s shots are in motion. Al is strictly a spot shooter who, against PF, will HAVE TROUBLE finding the space and time to shoot them.
.400 against ORL’s Bass (6′7”) and Anderson…
SteveW
December 8th, 2011
2:08 pm
Grandad – You are exactly right on his shooting – I guess I was thinking about another European C, that used to play, maybe Nestorovic? or somebody. But yes, you are correct. Thanks.
But I think he used to be a hustle player. The knock on him recently has been big contract, decrease in effort. And didn’t he look like garbage against us last season?
You know the NBA has a lack of C’s when we’re talking about the current edition of Biedrins being serviceable. But for the vet min, with minimal minutes, I’m sure we could do worse.
And David West is a more natural shooter than either Josh or Al. But Al’s midrange uncontested is deadly. Now if he’ll learn to drive when the D comes out on him, or pass to a cutter more regularly, he’ll be a stud. I guess that’s why Legree wants us to run the O thru him so badly.
SteveW
December 8th, 2011
2:12 pm
Grandad – West, Al, and Josh are just different types of players to me – very difficult to compare, because they all 3 bring some different things to the table. But I think West is the most natural scorer, Josh the best defender in some ways, and Al probably very well rounded.
I could live with a FC of Al, West, and Josh however…
And the 270lb Collins better be the one coming in,or I wouldn’t re-sign him.
Ra'mon
December 8th, 2011
2:12 pm
They are saying that signing Chandler is to place Amare on the trade block so they can get CPIII. If this is so, I offer Kirk and Al for Amare. Joe, Josh, and Amare (with Teague) is almost as good as the Heat. You’re also looking at another trade chip (Amare) to send to Orlando for D12 if you’d like. All of this talent on the trade block. Atlanta better come home with someone!
SteveW
December 8th, 2011
2:13 pm
Sign Billups if he’s available!!
And the Heat get Eddy Curry. Glad Prince is not going to the Heat – hope Battier doesn’t either.
Slimjr
December 8th, 2011
2:19 pm
Maybe
December 8th, 2011
1:59 pm
“Tyson chandler is about to sign with the Knicks and Billups is about to get Amnesteyed. NOT GOOD!
We should amnesty Kirk and Sign Billups though. He wont want a big contract with NYK paying the rest of his contract for the season.”
Wow! CP3 is next! Go Knicks!!
drmaryb.[*_*].
December 8th, 2011
2:19 pm
Tyranny!
“Rip was an established vet in Detroit. He holds the banner of DET’s championship pedigree.
T-Mac was a guy who got the call up – including from Kuester – for an opportunity that NO ONE was willing to give him last year.
You don’t bite the hand that feeds you.” -vava74-
_______________
Hugh? What parallel universe are you living in? Apparently, Mr. Keuster bit the hands that were feeding him. Last I checked, Keuster is unemployed (while piling onto the USA 8.6% U/E rate), meanwhile everyone he terrorized on that Piston’s team last year are all gainfully employed.
Since McGrady has amassed over 161M in BRI over 15 years, perhaps he can make Keuster a loan – since Keuster bit the hand that was feeding him.
Here’s my point: McGrady was not central to Keuster losing his team, it seems like Rip Hamilton, for some crazy reason held that honor. To a man, Keuster apparently WAS the problem. And, with everyone not just Tracy McGrady.
But hey, what does a Hawk fan know? We got problems of our own.
KevinM
December 8th, 2011
2:25 pm
No way I take on a Bogut….too many ifs for that kind of contract.
Its curious enough to see if West will mold back into form, but I still can’t understand the desire for him unless you are doing something bigger and changing this roster.
Astro Joe
December 8th, 2011
2:35 pm
Well, David West and Josh Smith can’t coexist, so if these rumors are true, Sund is trying to pul off a blockbuster.
If the Hornets trade CP3 for Amare, they are utterly crazy. Or, maybe CP3 simply has them over a barrel and they have to take pennies on the dollar for him. Dam shame and not the way to treat the Hornets fan base. Amare is a good knee bump away from possible retirement.
EmirS.
December 8th, 2011
2:37 pm
“EmirS, Bosh is an average post defender, so that wouldn’t cause any concern really.”
Agreed, however my point is that Miami needs exactly what we need. A big.
I would still LOVE to see Noah in a Hawks jersey. I would be willing to give up Horford’s offense for Noah’s defense, especially with Teague’s emergence.
Noah Noah
Smith Smith
Johnson Williams
T-Mac Johnson
Teague OR Teague
T-Mac off the bench to give Johnson a breather. And whoever else they sign to replace Crawford.
I believe we can be contenders with that line up…IF we get a deep bench. Heck, I believe we can be contenders with Horford manning the 5….as long as we have a deep bench.
It’s all about the bench!
wordsmithtom
December 8th, 2011
2:38 pm
Notwithstanding the Crawford situation, with Kirk out and the Hawks playing 7 games in the first 11 nights, they desperately need another proven point player. Not a starter, but someone to spell Teague, who I’m confident will do well during that spell.
T Mac is a veteran needed on our bench. We needed more of that last year. I don’t think he will be the last add, but he is a good one.