Atlanta Hawks: Good, bad, and ugly of the schedule

The Hawks released their schedule. I looked at it and wrote some things down, which I now will share with you.

(Edit: NBAstuffer.com has a rest-day analysis for each team.)

The Good

  • There are two four-game home stands and one five-game home stand, with the latter ending the season. That means Atlanta plays 39 percent of its home games during an extended stay in Atlanta.
  • The Hawks play Orlando, Boston and New York only three times and get Toronto, Detroit and Cleveland New Jersey four times.
  • Two games each against New Jersey and Washington are among the first 10 on the schedule.
  • Two of Atlanta’s games against both New York and Boston are at Philips Arena.
  • Atlanta got a pretty good home-and-home West draw: Clippers, Blazers and Suns. Not a contender among them.
  • The frequency of games lightens up after the All-Star game with 32 games in 58 days, with just 14 of those on the road.

The Bad

  • The Hawks play nine games in the first 12 days of their schedule. Two of the games against Orlando are on the road and one is the second game of a back-to-back, which always seems to happen.
  • There are two games each against Chicago and Miami in a six-day January stretch.
  • The Hawks play the Heat and Bulls four times and the Cavaliers and Wizards three times.
  • Each of Atlanta’s back-to-back-to-back sets is a home-away-home instead of having two games in a row at home or on the road.
  • The Hawks play at the Lakers, Spurs and Mavs.

The Ugly

  • The Hawks won’t see consecutive days without a game until Feb. 16 and 17. That’s 30 games over the first 51 days of their schedule, with 16 on the road.
  • They have two five-game road trips and one six-game trip.
  • The routes for two of their road trips make no sense: Milwaukee to San Antonio to Detroit to New Orleans to Toronto in January and then Indiana to Miami to Detroit to Sacramento to Denver to to Los Angeles in March.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

283 comments Add your comment

Melvin

December 6th, 2011
10:07 pm

The 2nd week of the season should tell us alot about this team. The Hawks play the Bulls and Heat twice that week…Ouch

Grandmaster JeJe

December 6th, 2011
10:08 pm

Mac-Town #maconchevyrider

December 6th, 2011
10:08 pm

(anything here) > not making a major shakeup with the Josh, Marvin, Joe, Al “core”

Najeh Davenpoop

December 6th, 2011
10:09 pm

FTPB

” This is the power the players held out to maintain… the season was further delayed in part because they wanted to allow CP3 and D12 to work the system like Melo did last year.”

What exactly could the owners have done to prevent that, though? What provision did the owners give up in the collective bargaining process that could have stopped CP3 from doing this?

CP3 isn’t working the system because there is a flaw in the system. CP3 is working the system because he is a highly coveted, top 10 player. The demand is extremely high and the supply is as small as possible.

There are only two ways to prevent something like this from happening. Either move every team to a big market, or get rid of free agency entirely (which is illegal). As long as basketball remains a superstar-driven sport, superstars are going to have the ability to dictate terms, and there is nothing the owners can do about that. No owner has to go sign Tyson Chandler to get CP3. But as long as CP3 gets to decide where he wants to play — a right he will always have thanks to free agency — there will never be a way owners can prevent him from joining whatever team signs Chandler.

Melvin

December 6th, 2011
10:10 pm

And continue with my 2nd week of the season point, the play the Bulls on 3rd night of back to back to back games with the 1st game against Miami with away game against the Bobcats on the 2nd night… Double Ouch….

Section 303

December 6th, 2011
10:12 pm

I am interested in seeing which team has best schedule, in terms of days off and number of back-to-backs. With the 66 games being jammed into a short time, does any team really have a great schedule?

Also, my initial reaction on getting T-Mac: he’ll be a starter on IR all year long. I would take a pass.

Grandmaster JeJe

December 6th, 2011
10:13 pm

Why don’t they just ADD MORE DAYS TO REGULAR SEASON?

Whoever wrote this schedule must’ve been on some ish. SMDH

Mia chi Mia chi

Wtf is that

traw

December 6th, 2011
10:15 pm

more info on tmac please

Mac-Town #maconchevyrider

December 6th, 2011
10:17 pm

**** the schedule. Let’s worry about making some moves. “Core” = 1st or 2nd round exit…smacked around by contending teams again. Aren’t we all tired of that?

Najeh Davenpoop

December 6th, 2011
10:18 pm

Put it this way — if Aaron Rodgers opted out of his contract and told every NFL team that he would only sign with whatever team also signs Rae Carruth, every NFL team would be hatching plans to bust Carruth out of prison.

Michael Cunningham

December 6th, 2011
10:19 pm

@Sec 303: “I am interested in seeing which team has best schedule, in terms of days off and number of back-to-backs. With the 66 games being jammed into a short time, does any team really have a great schedule?”

just posted this link from nbastatstuffer.com. a few teams got screwed but, as you say, no one really made out.

Najeh Davenpoop

December 6th, 2011
10:20 pm

By the way, MC I would bet on at least one of the Blazers, Clippers, and Suns being a playoff team. I wouldn’t write those teams off so quick. If my memory serves me right the Hawks were pretty bad against the Western Conference last year.

Mac-Town #maconchevyrider

December 6th, 2011
10:20 pm

Talent all on that Clipper team.

Michael Cunningham

December 6th, 2011
10:21 pm

@traw: “more info on tmac please”

talked to a friend of T-Mac tonight who says he he’s waiting for the market to set. i get the feeling he may be trying to leverage Hawks against Bulls.

Bird

December 6th, 2011
10:22 pm

MC, who is Stack???

James G

December 6th, 2011
10:22 pm

I only see three games versus Cleveland. From Buffalo, so looking to hit the Cleve.

Mac-Town #maconchevyrider

December 6th, 2011
10:23 pm

Michael Cunningham

December 6th, 2011
10:24 pm

@James G: should be New Jersey. fixed. thanks. . . .

Mac-Town #maconchevyrider

December 6th, 2011
10:24 pm

I’m not confident the team as is can survive February.

Section 303

December 6th, 2011
10:27 pm

Mac-Town, are you afraid of February because the Hawks only have 7 guys?

Michael Cunningham

December 6th, 2011
10:27 pm

@ Najeh: “By the way, MC I would bet on at least one of the Blazers, Clippers, and Suns being a playoff team. I wouldn’t write those teams off so quick.”

i’d bet on the Blazers, but i wouldn’t say they are contenders. would have been much worse bad if Hawks got, say, Dallas, Lakers and OKC.

i wonder if schedule makers took the expected difficulty of opponents into consideration. for instance, it looks like they balanced out those early games against Miami and Chicago by also sprinkling in New Jersey and Washington. i wouldn’t think they would worry about matchups normally but wonder if the truncated schedule made them consider.

Michael Cunningham

December 6th, 2011
10:28 pm

@Bird: “MC, who is Stack???”

Jerry Stackhouse

traw

December 6th, 2011
10:30 pm

what are the chances

Section 303

December 6th, 2011
10:30 pm

The Celtics have 3 game in 4 nights 17 times this season! So much for the short season favoring them. Not a chance on those legs.

Grandmaster JeJe

December 6th, 2011
10:30 pm

What exactly does the home and home mean? I thought it meant we play there and here on consecutive nights or 1 day gap

Section 303

December 6th, 2011
10:31 pm

By the way, I like Jerry Stackhouse. I would love to see the Hawks add him to the roster. If he could log 12-15 minutes a game, that would be great. I think he could stand it and he still can score some.

Ryan

December 6th, 2011
10:32 pm

Home and home means that each team gets a home game. IE we play in ATL then in Charlotte

UGA

December 6th, 2011
10:34 pm

Wasn’t TMAC a huge locker room problem in Detroit this past season? I know the answer…………

Michael Cunningham

December 6th, 2011
10:35 pm

@JeJe: “What exactly does the home and home mean?”

a two-game series with each team playing one home game at any time.

#Let'sGoHawks!

December 6th, 2011
10:37 pm

Hawks need depth if they want to contend this year. They have an advantage, because most of the players on the team stayed in shape…. Let’s hope boston drops to the 6th seed because those old players arent going to benefit from a 66 game season jam-packed into 4 1/4 months.

#Let'sGoHawks!

December 6th, 2011
10:39 pm

And marvin looks even taller now. I wonder what prevented him from having his surgery sooner?

A concerned fan..

December 6th, 2011
10:40 pm

MC, what exactly is this T-Mac to the Hawks thing about? Are you going to check with Sund to see if its true?

A concerned fan..

December 6th, 2011
10:42 pm

Doesn’t T-Mac have a history of being injury prone? What good does playing back to backs and back to back to backs help without him becoming injured?

brigadierjerry

December 6th, 2011
10:42 pm

Najeh, to expand on your point about CP3 and the league:

This is the best way to think about it:

Football = Religion
Baseball = Pastime
Other Sports = Niche sports

Most people don’t want to acknowledge it, but basketball is niche sport in the states. A niche sport requires either a player that transcends the sport itself or team in a large media market that casual fans would notice. The NBA and NHL are very similar in that they both depend on legacy teams or large market teams to get the general public to notice.

Football is king in this country, but not for anything the NFL does better than anyone else. Even with all the salary cap restrictions, injuries, specialization of positions, one and done playoffs, fixing of schedules for lower teams, and the draft, we still see the same teams over and over again when the playoffs come. Colts, Ravens, Steelers, Patriots, or some other big market team, while the Lions, bills Bengals, Raiders, Browns, and Chiefs get laughed at but have their moments from time to time. Look at college football, we actually vote for competition in the big games. Would anyone like to argue that the recruitment process is fair in college football and everyone is on a even playing field for players? It’s been proven time and time again that rich alumni are will to depart with their own hard earned cash to have his or her team on top with no initial profit motive to do so. People care about college football so much that they don’t tend to mind bowl executives making six figure incomes during bowl season. Everyone bitches up and down the line about college football, but that doesn’t ever stop anyone from watching and then turning around telling other fans of other sports that college football is a great thing. People love football so much that many don’t care about the health of players after their careers are over. And only now in 2011 people are beginning to take notice about head trauma. I actually believe if 3 or 4 players were killed or paralyzed in a weekend in high school, college, and the pros, no one would stop watching. I knew a guy in high school who was consistently put into harms way after multiple concussions during his career. Everyone from his school, coaches, down to his friends and parents told him to tough it out. I haven’t talked to him since school, but last I heard he was having issues in his life. This is the mentality of football in our society. Football can never do wrong.

EmirS.

December 6th, 2011
10:43 pm

This is seemingly exciting! ;)

Michael Cunningham

December 6th, 2011
10:44 pm

@concerned fan: “MC, what exactly is this T-Mac to the Hawks thing about? Are you going to check with Sund to see if its true?”

latest info i have is further up in this thread. Sund didn’t want to talk about it (or anything else).

EmirS.

December 6th, 2011
10:45 pm

Not that whole part about the head trauma but….the NBA season….

brigadierjerry

December 6th, 2011
10:46 pm

Also, I am suprised Golden State would take Chris Paul even if there is no guarantee he signs and extension with them

Neki

December 6th, 2011
10:51 pm

Well but I got a feeling that GS won’t even make the playoffs this year. But I think we should be fine with Teague and we still have all of assets for trades later on.

EmirS.

December 6th, 2011
10:55 pm

Daddy Long Long (No relation toe Eddie)

December 6th, 2011
10:58 pm

MC to sign or not to sign Jamal…THAT is the question??? I’ve heard his name is HOT on deez skreets (NBA). I’m out of the loop on hoops. What have you heard?

Grandmaster JeJe

December 6th, 2011
11:13 pm

No idea what happened to DET last year. A lot of talent but no chemistry. TMac might slack here because there’s no KG or Kobe to get mad at him.

Mac-Town #maconchevyrider

December 6th, 2011
11:13 pm

Section 303, I just don’t see one game in February that I can look at confidently and say “oh that should be a win” except Philly, and we struggle with them at times……with this core group.

Mac-Town #maconchevyrider

December 6th, 2011
11:14 pm

and Golden State too.

Grandmaster JeJe

December 6th, 2011
11:14 pm

So when does the new CBA officially get signed?

Melvin

December 6th, 2011
11:21 pm

From a competition level, I think the Hawks schedule after the All-Star game is much easier than prior to.

Grandmaster JeJe

December 6th, 2011
11:25 pm

Mac-Town #maconchevyrider
December 6th, 2011
11:13 pm

Section 303, I just don’t see one game in February that I can look at confidently and say “oh that should be a win” except Philly, and we struggle with them at times……with this core group.

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^^^^
Are we looking at the same schedule?
Memphis Indy Phoenix GS ORL who kinda sucks

tyler

December 6th, 2011
11:26 pm

I like what I’m hearing about M. Williams….I think we need Jamal back but it looks like he prob out the door. This schedule looks pretty tough…. MC, over/under 35 wins this year?

Slimjr

December 6th, 2011
11:28 pm

I actually like Teague’s defense at the pt of attack better than CP3 and he is much quicker also..

Teague is going to be spectacular!!!!!!!!!! Stay tuned…

Mac-Town #maconchevyrider

December 6th, 2011
11:29 pm

Memphis was a playoff team that finished with a better record than us as a Western Conf team..played OKC tough

Indy played much better after the break…they were more competitive in their loses against CHI than we were

ORL still a pretty good team

GS sometimes gives us trouble

+ This “core” is regressing by the year