Atlanta Hawks: Tentative deal reached to end lockout

Stayed up until the wee hours anticipating an end to the lockout. And so of course the news didn’t break until like 3 a.m.David Stern, Billy Hunter and deputy commish Adam Silver emerged some three hours later to announce a tentative labor agreement.

No word yet on details of the agreement (and what it will mean for the Hawks’ shaky cap/tax situation). But the goal is to open training camps and free agency on Dec. 9 and play a 66-game regular season starting on Dec. 25. The Hawks are scheduled to play at New Jersey on Dec. 27 but word is the schedule will be reset much like it was at the end of the last lockout.

NBA team personnel will not allowed to speak publicly until the deal is officially ratified. That won’t happen until Stern gets the owners on board and the players re-form the union and take a vote.

(Update: Chris Sheridan has some details of what made it in the final deal.)

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SteveW

November 26th, 2011
10:29 am

SteveW

November 26th, 2011
10:30 am

I’m totally shocked. I thought this season was totally lost. And maybe even next season with this lawsuit stuff. Wow

SteveW

November 26th, 2011
10:31 am

Now we can get back to talking about Teague, JJ and the rest. I still think with LD as Coach, we’re toast. But I like the reports I’ve been hearing about JJ.

JSS

November 26th, 2011
10:32 am

Yes yes y’all, and it don’t stop, get on the Hoops and Michael Cunningham doesn’t have to cover crazy Glen Rice Jr anymore!!!

JSS

November 26th, 2011
10:34 am

Will Niremetal and Rod from College Park come home now?

JSS

November 26th, 2011
10:36 am

And will you free Big Ray from Purgatory now?

MsDee

November 26th, 2011
10:41 am

Happy about the season returning..not so happy about the Hawk same owners

J.J.M.

November 26th, 2011
10:50 am

Josh smith done got fat and joe is all skinny now

Michael Cunningham

November 26th, 2011
10:51 am

@JSS: “Michael Cunningham doesn’t have to cover crazy Glen Rice Jr anymore!!!”

Or college romances.

O'Brien

November 26th, 2011
10:51 am

I am cautiously optimistic. From the Sheridan article;

Stern said he does not expect unanimous support from the owners, who will vote on the tentative agreement after the owners’ full negotiating committee receives a rundown of what is in the new deal.

Players also must ratify the agreement, a process that could take as long as a week while the union, which dissolved itself last week by issuing a disclaimer of interest, is reconstituted..

I think the players will approve the deal. The big question, is will there be enough owners to agree to it?

O'Brien

November 26th, 2011
10:53 am

MC,

Regardless of the new salary cap, tax restrictions etc, isn’t it likely that there will be some kind of window (one or two years) for those teams over the cap to get under the cap w/o significant penalty?

Michael Cunningham

November 26th, 2011
10:55 am

@O’Brien: Yeah, seems Stern has had trouble holding together his coalition throughout this mess.

FreshFromATL

November 26th, 2011
10:55 am

GLAD TO BE BACK!!

Michael Cunningham

November 26th, 2011
10:57 am

@O’Brien: “Regardless of the new salary cap, tax restrictions etc, isn’t it likely that there will be some kind of window (one or two years) for those teams over the cap to get under the cap w/o significant penalty?”

i think that’s the thinking behind the amnesty and “stretch” provisions, which i’m assuming remain intact in the final deal.

JSS

November 26th, 2011
11:11 am

@ Michael Cunningham…
Dang, I missed your by-line… You got to be afraid of any fella who calls his girl “too cute!” Ah to be young, he might just get away with it :-)

Sam

November 26th, 2011
11:29 am

Amazing video of a high school senior from Columbia TN who kicks the ball dead straight 75-80 yards in the air. He was successful on 54 of 54 attempts this season….100%. Now he needs a college team.

Watch for yourself…it is unreal!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_JKwgwFY3g

FreshFromATL

November 26th, 2011
11:36 am

So if the Hawks amnesty Marvin or Kirk, could they make a run at Nene during free agency???

Marvins Gotta Go

November 26th, 2011
12:37 pm

………. ……….. …………

JSS

November 26th, 2011
12:51 pm

@ Michael Cunningham…
Serious question, did Adam Silver seal his fate (never becoming the next commissioner) in this whole thing?

A concerned fan..

November 26th, 2011
1:04 pm

LETS GET BACK TO BUISNESS

WHO CARES !!!!!

November 26th, 2011
1:25 pm

EXACTLY WHO CARES ??? WHY DO YOU IDIOTS CONTINUE TO SUPPORT A NOTHING SPORT ??? AMAZING !!!!

TEAM NEEDS TO BE IN SEATTLE NOT IN LOSERSVILLE U.S.A.

GLAD I NEVER ATTEND, NEVER HAVE NEVER WILL, nba STINKS AND SO DO ANY FANS WHO SUPPORT THIS CRAP LEAGUE AND THIS AWFUL TEAM !!!!!!!!

Michael Cunningham

November 26th, 2011
1:35 pm

@WHO CARES: Why would Seattle want this nothing sport?

@JSS: “Serious question, did Adam Silver seal his fate (never becoming the next commissioner) in this whole thing?”

good question. i don’t know. they did get a deal done. Silver kind of got put out there as the bad guy at certain points.

Mike is back

November 26th, 2011
1:35 pm

YEE HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!

LET’S GET IT GOING…LET’S GO…LET’S GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A concerned fan..

November 26th, 2011
1:41 pm

MC: When do you believe training camps/free agecny begin? If so, what players do you see the Hawks signing/waiving do to the amnesty clause. It’s great to have the season back.

bigdave

November 26th, 2011
1:45 pm

question:

say the lockout hadn’t ended.. would the free agent class of 2012 still be eligible? or would they owe another year to their respective teams. are the contracts calendar based, or based on seasons?

2 FOR JOHN DREW

November 26th, 2011
1:47 pm

I’M READY…. NOT ONLY FOR SOME NBA BASKETBALL, BUT I’M READY FOR MURELLO TO MAKE A 2ND TRY @ TRYING TO OWN THE HAWKS, I’M READY FOR MARVIN TO TRY HIS NEW BACK ON ANOTHER TEAM … FOR J.J., TEAGUE, & HORFORD TO LEAD THIS HAWKS TEAM …. TO DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GET A COMPATIBLE ATHLETIC CENTER FOR OUR TEAM …. FOR BIG RAY’S BLOG … FOR DRMARYB’S WORLD …. FOR THE REST OF ALL THE GREAT CAST OF BLOGGERS WHO MAKE THIS BLOG SO MUCH FUN …. & I’M READY FOR THAT CHRISTMAS DAY TRIPLE-HEADER , LET’S DO THIS BABY ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Najeh Davenpoop

November 26th, 2011
1:48 pm

In all seriousness it will be a lot more fun to complain about Teague not getting playing time, Joe bogging down the offense, Smoove taking bad shots, Al not manning up in the post, Marvin existing, etc. than it was to complain about there being no NBA at all. Welcome back NBA.

Can you imagine what this condensed free agency period would be like if it was last year’s free agent class? It’s going to be crazy enough as it is.

Najeh Davenpoop

November 26th, 2011
1:49 pm

I would be a lot happier, though, if the Meruelo deal (or really any deal to buy the team) was still on.

Michael Cunningham

November 26th, 2011
2:14 pm

@concerned fan: “MC: When do you believe training camps/free agecny begin? If so, what players do you see the Hawks signing/waiving do to the amnesty clause. It’s great to have the season back.”

Dec. 9 for camp/free agency. will have to see the details of the amnesty clause and luxury tax level before i can figure what the Hawks might do.

2 FOR JOHN DREW

November 26th, 2011
2:21 pm

I’m also sadden, because my close friend JOE WALKER, longtime Atlanta sportscaster passed earlier this year. I’ll miss taking him to all the Falcons, Braves, & Hawks games. Going to the dressing rooms, assisting him w/ his pre-game & post-game interviews and sitting on press row for a sports lover like me was pure heaven. And even though he was blind, Joe had a real passion for certain details. He use to always know from the sound of the ball hitting the bat ” THAT’S GONE, BABY ” !!! Love you man, you are missed !!!

ILL-Logical

November 26th, 2011
2:36 pm

A great holiday season gift for the people who depend on the games to make a living; die hard NBA fans; players,staff and related businesses(lawyers,CPA’s doctors).

ILL-Logical

November 26th, 2011
2:38 pm

And the player’s families!

A concerned fan..

November 26th, 2011
3:28 pm

MC: 2nd question, how long will this new CBA last?

Rev in Tampa

November 26th, 2011
3:40 pm

Play Ball!!!

G-E-O-R-G-I-A!!!!!!!

November 26th, 2011
3:44 pm

Maybe getting the NBA season started will get everyone’s mind off that áss-kicking teck just suffered in their own house. Hawks fans are used to that, just like every team in Fatlanta!

Michael Cunningham

November 26th, 2011
3:55 pm

@bigdave: “say the lockout hadn’t ended.. would the free agent class of 2012 still be eligible? or would they owe another year to their respective teams. are the contracts calendar based, or based on seasons?”

based on dates.

Michael Cunningham

November 26th, 2011
3:56 pm

@concerned fan: reported as 10-year CBA with opt outs for both sides after six years (TV deal is up then).

Grandmaster JeJe

November 26th, 2011
4:01 pm

mountain_jim

November 26th, 2011
4:20 pm

FIRE SUND!

For trading away 2 number 1’s while the solution was sitting on the bench the whole time.

(not to mention Marvin and JJ’s contracts.)

cdog

November 26th, 2011
4:20 pm

NOW HAWKS WITHOUT ANY RESTRICTIONS, LETS BRING DWIGHT HOWARD HOME TO BE A HAWK. THEY CAN GIVE US THE CHAMPIONSHIP. HE BELONGS WITH THE HAWKS

Big Ray

November 26th, 2011
4:29 pm

Welcome back to the NBA (tentatively speaking) – you have a lot of work to do. A LOT.

Welcome back to all the complaining – we’ll pick up where we left off.

Welcome back ASG – just kidding. We’re sick to death of you and sad as heck that you’re still here.

cp

November 26th, 2011
4:31 pm

Glad the lockout is over.. Will the Hawks be shopping in the bargain bin for free agents? If so then the bench might be worse than last year’s.

observor

November 26th, 2011
4:47 pm

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

That’s disappointing news if true.

niremetal

November 26th, 2011
5:04 pm

If this season ends up as ugly as the ‘99 season was, I’d rather they start later and play even fewer games. Remember Kemp the Blimp?

BILLY KNIGHT

November 26th, 2011
5:07 pm

Man i’m glad to be back.
what up world i no yall miss me.

BILLY KNIGHT

November 26th, 2011
5:09 pm

I was scared for minute thinking the deal would never get done.

2 FOR JOHN DREW

November 26th, 2011
5:13 pm

Hey M.C., is there a ” free agent time period ” & do you expect it to be as crazy as the NFL’s ?

Michael Cunningham

November 26th, 2011
5:19 pm

@2 John Drew: “Hey M.C., is there a ” free agent time period ” & do you expect it to be as crazy as the NFL’s ?”

the plan is for free agency to open on Dec. 9, the same day camp begins. since the season begins Dec. 25, yes, free agency will be crazy. trades, too. figure on 7-10 days of constant transactions as teams build their rosters at the same time.

Michael Cunningham

November 26th, 2011
5:21 pm

@niremetal: “Remember Kemp the Blimp?”

someone at the Lou Williams game said this was his main lockout worry. “i don’t want to sit around and get fat. if you remember, that’s what kind of messed up Shawn Kemp’s career.”

wish i could remember who said it.

JSS

November 26th, 2011
5:30 pm

Niremetal sighting, this is indeed a Christmas mir-a-cle!!!