Atlanta Hawks: Pape Sy signs lockout opt-out deal in France

According to reports in Europe, Hawks guard Pape Sy has signed a one-year contract with BCM Gravelines in his native France that includes an opt-out clause if/when the NBA lockout ends.

An AJC Francophone offered a rough translation of the report from

“Here’s what you’ve been waiting for: Pape Sy is officially from Graveline, closing recruitment for the BCM. . . . Drafted by the Hawks in the second round in 2010, the leader Pape Sy should, however, remain with the BCM only during the lockout because of a clause in his contract. The northern club thus finally found the required money to make this luxury recruitment. . . . Sy will have the chance to silence his many detractors with his real talent level.”

So I guess Sy is viewed as a disappointment in France (and a “luxury recruitment” for Gravelines. The jury is still out on Sy with the Hawks. Presumably Sy could benefit from the youth/thrift movement that seems inevitable for the Hawks if only because the new CBA isn’t likely to provide the kind of relief necessary for them to round out the roster with high-priced vets even if the new owner were inclined to do so.

Sy joins Keith Benson and Magnum Rolle as Hawks players set to play overseas during the lockout.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

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August 26th, 2011
2:12 pm

MC, thanks for the update.

Is any one else looking at the player rankings on ESPN? Noticed how the Hawks already has 5-6 players from last season’s roster in the bottom half of the league?


August 26th, 2011
2:15 pm

interesting … sounds like they made him on Tony Parker level …. despite having Tony Parker-like stats during his playing days

Hawk n the Ham

August 26th, 2011
2:15 pm

Hey MC, any news on when the the new ownership will take place? I’m sure Alex Meruelo would like to have a say in the CBA that is ongoing.


August 26th, 2011
2:52 pm

4 posts down, 116 to go until the blog is shut down again.

AJC does not have a clue when it comes to the NBA and pro basketball fans.

Worldwide Clyde

August 26th, 2011
3:14 pm




August 26th, 2011
3:20 pm

Another vote for FIRE SUND


August 26th, 2011
3:55 pm

you guys that post on basketball are just like me. you dont know s–t about the game except to sit in front of the tv and act like you are a top notch basketball coach, and want to fire somebody. crap, crap and crap.

Michael Cunningham

August 26th, 2011
4:01 pm

@Hawks n the Ham: “Hey MC, any news on when the the new ownership will take place? I’m sure Alex Meruelo would like to have a say in the CBA that is ongoing.”

NBA says no timetable on when Board will vote.

Michael Cunningham

August 26th, 2011
4:03 pm

@Sautee: “4 posts down, 116 to go until the blog is shut down again. AJC does not have a clue when it comes to the NBA and pro basketball fans.”

i’m told there is a new commenting system in the works that should reduce some of the tomfoolery and thus make it more feasible to have an open forum.

Astro Joe

August 26th, 2011
4:18 pm

tomfoolery, now there is an expression I haven’t heard since I last shopped at Rich’s.

His last 6 games notwithstanding, let’s get a Euro contract in the works for young Mr. Teague as well. And maybe send Marvin somewhere (like Oz) to find his heart & courage.


August 26th, 2011
4:43 pm

sounds good MC, just losing steam here with nothing to blog on or tomfoolery to scroll over if nothing else. sure it is a nuisance but a petty one at that and most see it for what it is and merely ignore it and move on. it would be better if there were some controls in pace to take it out and nip it in the bud from the beginning.

sautee and aj, how bout them bravos? minny south, if you know what i mean. uggla has been huge.


August 26th, 2011
8:44 pm

I think too !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ….. No tomfoolery there. If Dwight & JSmoove were in our front court Marvin would even be servicable .


August 26th, 2011
11:11 pm

how sad to read how far j crit has fallen.


August 26th, 2011
11:24 pm


August 26th, 2011
11:28 pm

Buddy Grizzard

August 27th, 2011
1:24 am

“i’m told there is a new commenting system in the works that should reduce some of the tomfoolery and thus make it more feasible to have an open forum.”

New commenting system = IP ban a certain poster who likes to hear himself talk on Real GM.

Javaris Crittenton, real American hero. Way to go… gun down a mother of four. You really showed the world that you’re a man.

Najeh Davenpoop

August 27th, 2011
2:56 am

Damn, Javaris Crittenton… WTF

Najeh Davenpoop

August 27th, 2011
3:00 am

“i’m told there is a new commenting system in the works that should reduce some of the tomfoolery and thus make it more feasible to have an open forum.”

What about the shenanigans, will they be reduced too?

N Nine

August 27th, 2011
4:25 am

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August 27th, 2011
9:33 am

I am receiving calls from the Hawks to buy season ticket packages for next season. I am not going to buy any tickets for next season until after the new owner fire LD and Sund.


August 27th, 2011
10:26 am

He MC, I was wondering if you could help me with a senior project that I have for school


August 27th, 2011
12:17 pm

^^ now go ahead and go sign in ya choke s/n on the Falcons blog and talk about how much of a “choke” artist Matt Ryan is YA WEIRDO!!! Ban this lady ajc!!!


August 27th, 2011
8:44 pm

I’m with you hawkless…getting those same calls….and the sales guy is asking me what’s keeping me from committing?
I asked him how much time did he have?


August 27th, 2011
9:26 pm

When in the HELL is this new owner going to understand, SEATTLE is the place for this NOTHING franchise and the Sooner The BETTER !!!

Get out of town hawks !!!!!NOW !!!!

Worldwide Clyde

August 28th, 2011
2:36 am

Hawkless they don’t call me anymore. I’m not buying Hawks tickets until they win a championship.


August 28th, 2011
12:53 pm

The Real Culprit!

“how sad to read how far j crit has fallen.” -doc-

Now, we ALL see who was the real CULPRIT in the Locker Room Brawl between Agent “0″ and “Critter” – Crittendon.

Agent “0″ needed that unloaded weapon to preserve his own life. Gilbert Arenas has been vindicated – IMHO.

Will somebody please take The Critter off the streets and throw away the key? He is a dredge in society.


August 28th, 2011
12:53 pm

has Joe been out recruiting free agents to come to Atl?
maybe we can get some of the hispanic ones now, what with the new owner and all.


August 28th, 2011
3:37 pm

“new commenting system” – is that what prevents you,
from writing a new blog, more than once every two weeks.

Let’s not place the blame on “termites” invading the home …
when the owner has been negligent.
The “termites” are only doing what comes natural for them.

A good “homeowner” tends to his property.
A good “homeowner” routinely inspects his property.
A pro-active “homeowner” realizes that “termites” …
eat dried & decaying wood.
A -homeowner- realizing that he / she has an infestation …
ends up paying through the nose for damages – due;
to a lack of proper maintenence.

“Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance”

Section 303

August 28th, 2011
7:17 pm

I’m not writing Sye off just yet. I still think he has a shot at being able to contribute. Hope his season in France goes well. And, may he be ready to roll for the Hawks when the NBA starts play again in October of 2012.

Jae Evolution

August 29th, 2011
3:03 am


August 29th, 2011
9:34 am


Great post!

It’s really great to see a guy who has a 100 million contract waiting for him working out so diligently during the summer when there is no perspective on when the season will start.

95% of the posters around here would go full fledged Eddy Curry with a contract like that.

JJ is looking very very sharp physically. I even think he dropped a few pounds back to his 2007/08 physical form: lighter and quicker.

Teague (of the CHI series) – JJ – Hinrich is, IMO, has all the makings to be the best back court in the league.

All 3 are two way ball players.

What we need is a good coach instead of LD and to get Al back into his overalls and out of his cheap accountants suit.


August 29th, 2011
9:37 am

Crittendon is a suspect, not a convicted felon.

There is pretty good data pointing at him but lets not convict people before a trial.


August 29th, 2011
10:03 am

vava, not sure but even holding a gun might be grounds for him to end up behind bars based on his last escapade. it doesnt look good, especially since he remains at large and everyone and his cousin is aware of it. to have the fbi tailing you is a pretty bad sign as well. he might be exhuming oj’s lawyer for his counsel. again sad to see him even being a suspect as his potential was huge being a protege of kobe in the beginning.


August 29th, 2011
10:45 am


Yes, all points out to him and there seems to be very little margin for doubt.

I will probably get Big Ray’s mojo racing at unbearable levels if I digress on the subject of the availability of guns in the US and the whole gun culture for too long…

But it’s really hard not to:

Just a few months ago it was van Exel’s son that shot and killed a friend.

Critt had already lost his job in the NBA (to some extent) because of that gun incident with Agent 0 and now apparently killed an innocent bystander. (and Agent 0 lost gazillions with his own suspension and almost lost the whole 100 million outstanding).

Delonte West was booked whist carrying a plethora of guns… got suspended and lost money.

Plaxico was arrested when he shot himself in a nightclub, lost millions and a few of his best years…

Jayson Williams killed a guy and now is in jail and probably bankrupt…

Just the other day Darius Miles was arrested trying to board a plane with a hand gun…

The whole gun loving culture is freaking stupid. Guns are for law enforcement, military and, in a very very very controlled way for people living in the country side.


Hand guns don’t make anyone more manly, cool or whatever. Only makes that type of gun carrier (an urban civilian) stupidly dangerous.

Ray, I had to do it :-D


August 29th, 2011
12:29 pm


August 29th, 2011
12:33 pm

By the way, the french article on Sy also mentions that in his debut with his new team he scored 22 points.

It was a friendly against a 2nd division team.


August 29th, 2011
12:40 pm

On The Lam!

“Crittendon is a suspect, not a convicted felon.” -vava74-

Then, why doesn’t he turn himself in to the FBI and clear his name, instead if running to LA and hiding like a fugitive. Those are not the actions of an innocent man.

I’m just saying. He has a lot to lose by making himself appear guilty of such a horrific accusation. Man Up – Critter!

Trade Horford for Motiejunas, Thabeet, Hill

August 29th, 2011
4:17 pm

Seeing as how the esteemed Mr. Cunningham ignores every question I ask him Well, I can take a hint.

Hawks have two options outside of another year away with small rebounding zone defense schemes.


Horford is an excelling passer but he is probably the one center in the league who cant score on smaller forwards. Ive already listed his wingspan and height as negatives and you can see it in his running motions. Hes not a natural forward

Alas, truth is Hawks fans have no confidence in their players unless they get a coach’s vote to the All Star Game. I hope Josh Smith is traded and makes his way to a contender AT SF.

Sad because Hawks have all the pieces to grow and be elite. Horford’s all star play at center is invalidated come playoffs because he cant defend that position.
A 7′1 shooting forward and backups with 7′2 length of Mr. Malcolm Thomas AND homecoming of 7′2 length Jordan Hill AND Marvin as an (expensive) backup is just what the team needs to rectify the roster
I worked hard on researching a rebounding and well rounded floor spacing roster that can post up from 3 positions. First with Bogut and we had to take on Gooden and pray for Sanders. Now I find a stretch 4 with same compact wingspan as Z-Bo, Carl Landry, Troy Murphy, Blake and K-Love etc and post it here.
Response “AL for Dwight!”. Newsflash Dwight is an NBA player and knows more dirt on ATL Hawks than you ever will and has openly dissed the Hawks.

He knows the financial situation and has just gotten beaten by his rivals. He’s not coming here.

Alas, But no one listens.
Less is more.
Oh well have fun with resigning Jamal Crawford and playing musical chairs with Al. Maybe he grows some wingspan and becomes Amare next year. Probably not.

On a side note I saw a La Pizza Loca the other day in San Bernadino and realize I’ve eaten their pizza. :D

Trade Horford for Motiejunas, Thabeet, Hill

August 29th, 2011
4:18 pm


as long as they bring back the Pistol Pete color scheme ;) lol


August 29th, 2011
4:24 pm

good to see Joe staying in great shape. im looking for his shooting touch to return whenever we tip off..

like the drills where he has to go quickly against 2 possible defenders in the painted area..

most hate when he pounds, but hey.. if i could handle the rock like that, id like to show it off too.. lol

Trade Horford for Motiejunas, Thabeet, Hill

August 29th, 2011
5:12 pm

“The jury is still out on Sy with the Hawks. Presumably Sy could benefit from the youth/thrift movement that seems inevitable for the Hawks”

youth/thrift movement? ummm How about calling it the Horford+shooters Rebuild.


August 29th, 2011
6:37 pm


“Hand guns don’t make anyone more manly,
cool or whatever.
Only makes that type of gun carrier (an urban civilian)
stupidly dangerous.”

Well said.

Having been a school teacher & knowing that
loaded weapons have shown up @ school before …
I see that argument with perfect clarity.

Also having been a “country boy” prior to ‘evolving’
[ahem] into the renaissance man that I am today …
[double ahem] and having taught in both rural and
urban schools – there is a difference in mentality.
(even in bringing a gun to school) [gun-racks in pick ups]

What I fail to see;
is the logic of the NRA …
“pry this gun from my cold dead fingers”
protecting the right to sell flamethrowers and
aotomatic weapons and such tomfoolery …
while it’s clear, that in the modern world;
if the constitution were applied today,
citizens will need drones and stealth technology
to thwart our aggressors.
Now let’s all buy one .410 shotgun & go huntin’.

Jae Evolution

August 29th, 2011
8:27 pm

Joe Johnson is looking EXTREMELY fit and in shape, I don’t think this guy ever rests.

When/If the season starts I expect Joe Johnson to have one of his best seasons as a Hawk.


August 30th, 2011
3:34 am


You know that you are now in Big Ray’s “hit list”, don’t you? :-D

You’ll be shot down in no time, just like I was a couple of years ago…


August 30th, 2011
5:52 am


He is looking great. I think he will have a huge season next year. Not necessarily much more ppg but more assertive and aggressive.

As I said above, Teague (of the CHI series), JJ and Hinrich make a 3 man rotation in the backcourt which could become the best in the league.

All 3 play good man to man D, Teague penetrates, Hinrich is very savvy offensively (plays to his strengths and does not attempt to do what he can’t) and hits his outside shots and JJ has the whole offensive package (if he comes in 10 lbs lighter as he looks to be on those videos, we will see a difference on his driving).

I have by far more confidence in this trio than any other combination we have had during the past 3 years (Bibby, JJ, Flip – which was a B for me, Bibby, JJ, Jamal which was a C+ for me in year 1 and D+ on year 2).


August 30th, 2011
7:39 am


“I’m not going to sit here and say that I’m just a defensive coach. I can help Mike, I think, offensively as well,” Woodson said during a conference call. .

I can see woody reminding D’Antoni to coach to his strengths. ISO Carmelo and ISO Amare. And just to show how much he has grown from his Hawks days, he sprinkles in some ISO Chauncey to keep opponents guessing.


August 30th, 2011
7:43 am

Although we havent seen or heard anything on the other players, I assume they are all working out in their own ways, in their own gyms.

But JJ being the $100 mil man, it is good to see him practising. I dont know if JJ is calling up the other Hawks players, but this is another example of him leading by…example.

In other news, Marvin doesnt mind the lockout, because it gives him time to get healthy, and hopefully complete his degree.


August 30th, 2011
10:29 am


I think that after this lockout Marvin will come to training camp with a swarm of bugs circling his ass, trying to escape from the gravitational pull it exudes…

He has been on the record saying stuff that don’t point out to him being remotely interested in BB during the off-season so I expect him to come back looking even more like an ostrich…

He has the physical tools, some talent, some willingness to do stuff that guys don’t usually like to do (like defending, moving feet laterally, …) but then he exhibits ZERO passion for the game…


August 30th, 2011
10:31 am


As for my good friend:
‘ Big Ray ‘ …

“Just when he thinks he’s got all the answers, I change the questions.”

*Purloined from -Rowdy Roddy Piper-


August 30th, 2011
12:02 pm